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post Oct 28 2013, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(-oc-gassa @ Oct 27 2013, 11:58 PM)
if got money and want performance go black.. if want value and longer than normal HDD warranty period take red.. me im using red as storage.. coz if really want performance.. please use SSD..performance far faster than current HDD top spec.. dun worry today ssd not goona have issue of early die or freeze..
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post Oct 28 2013, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(Lynixx @ Oct 27 2013, 11:32 PM)
hi guys, sorry if this question had been asked before.

im going to get a new HDD tomorrow, but im in dilemma which one to get

1. WD Red
2. WD Black

both hdd is it the same? or which one is more on performance?
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If you want performance, then Black series but beware of the temperature if your storage device or environment is not well ventilated or badly cooled.
Choose Red for 24/7 NAS usage, this is built especially for NAS purpose, withstand 24/7 use, minimal electricity and less heat compare to Black.
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post Oct 29 2013, 06:04 AM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Oct 27 2013, 11:37 PM)
black.. if want to store just porn i recommend green cheaper
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actually, what is the disadvantage of WD GREEN series? icon_question.gif
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post Oct 29 2013, 06:08 AM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 1 2013, 01:48 PM)
Give more detail on your desktop specs so more guru here can help you.
Good PSU can warrant longer HDD lifespan but sometimes it's just luck I guess doh.gif
SSD however may also suffer for the same, possibly even worst when it comes to blackout/electric shock situation.
Buy good PSU, protected by a good UPS and your system may last longer than you possibly imagine.

p/s: Just like buying insurance for your home, car, and yourself, PC needs insurance as well. wink.gif
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post Oct 29 2013, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(-oc-gassa @ Oct 27 2013, 11:53 AM)
i don see any wrong here as my self using red wd just for single hhd data storage.. coz of the warranty that make me bought it..they are just built to suit enterprise/raid environment..as for normal usage i din feel any different than other HDD in my exp..
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WD Red may not be suitable as a single disk bootdisk. See the random transfer test below.

http://www.storagereview.com/western_digit...review_wd30efrx

However it really shine at sequential transfer tests hence its suitability in RAID boxes.

You will get better performance with WD Blue as a bootdisk.
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post Oct 29 2013, 10:05 PM

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yup i did not use as boot drice .. i've use SSD.. there is no blue WD for 3Tb.. so most value for me is Red coz of longer warranty.. although green WD price is cheaper..I opt for red WD
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QUOTE(mrbob @ Oct 29 2013, 05:38 PM)
WD Red may not be suitable as a single disk bootdisk. See the random transfer test below.

http://www.storagereview.com/western_digit...review_wd30efrx

However it really shine at sequential transfer tests hence its suitability in RAID boxes.

You will get better performance with WD Blue as a bootdisk.
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even quoted in your link provided WD RED still a great single drive.

"We tested our batch of eight WD Red hard drives in varying configurations ranging from single drive to 2, 5 and 8-bay Synology NAS deployments. In terms of performance, the WD Red did very well not only as a single drive, but increased proportionally as we scaled up the testing in the Synology DiskStations. "
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QUOTE(-oc-gassa @ Oct 29 2013, 10:22 PM)
even quoted in your link provided WD RED still a great single drive.

"We tested our batch of eight WD Red hard drives in varying configurations ranging from single drive to 2, 5 and 8-bay Synology NAS deployments.  In terms of performance, the WD Red did very well not only as a single drive, but increased proportionally as we scaled up the testing in the Synology DiskStations. "
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For boot drive, random access speed and latency play biggest role than sequential speed, Blue or better Black will provide better startup or application launch/access compare to Red or Green.
In the test, it's used for storage purpose only, as the sentence stated "ranging from single drive to 2, 5 and 8-bay Synology NAS deployments", they configure them all in a single NAS environment only. I hope that clears out your confusion. wink.gif

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WD Red may not be suitable as a single disk bootdisk.

Used as boot disk is not recommended. nod.gif

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QUOTE(-oc-gassa @ Oct 27 2013, 08:16 PM)
nop.. i have ssd as boot hdd... as far transfer compare to 1 tb green hdd this red much faster(3tb red nas wd).. and as wd green this wd red use less power than wd green when i open wd website spec chart.. ya.. this red hdd sleep like wd green oso.. but mush faster awake time..and less noisy when wake up.. the clicking sound is more quieter..
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if red put as boot disk, it is a terrible performance and u will suffer from it
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post Oct 31 2013, 06:56 PM

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hi guys, if we always FAST-FORWARD / SKIP HERE SKIP THERE OF VIDEO / FILE MIGRATION, will caused HDD rosak/spoiled faster? hmm.gif

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http://www.maximumpc.com/western_digital_p...hard_drives2013


Western Digital Planning to Launch 7-Platter, Helium Filled Hard Drives

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QUOTE(win7 @ Oct 29 2013, 06:04 AM)
actually, what is the disadvantage of WD GREEN series? icon_question.gif
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The biggest gripe I have heard so far is the IntelliPower feature parks the HDD head every 8 secs throughout its lifetime. The HDD is supposedly saves more power then ever before as idle power for 2TB model is only 3W compared to 2TB black @ 8W. However the advantages far outweights the disadvantage. Its cheap, runs cool, lowest MYR/TB ratio, sips power like a camel and did I mention that its really affordable?

If you are not running RAID or 24/7 ops, this HDD is a great candidate for single-disk data storage with your occasional downloads etc. Just remember not to build RAID 0/5/6 and the likes with this HDD as it lacks TLER feature that prevents member disks to drop out of a group. Its still OK to use it as JBOD on your NAS.

Assuming that you are in the market for a HDD that can handle large media files, you could try AV green which comes with 3 years warranty. AV green was designed with DVR / video surveillance in mind and handles up to 12 simultaneous HD video streams. I'm glad that I've chosen AV green over the normal green as its been running 24/7 in my Linux NAS > 6 months and haven't had any issues. Note that while it has Intellipower feature, the idle disk timer is disabled by default so that it doesn't park the HDD head every 8 secs.

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QUOTE(win7 @ Oct 31 2013, 06:56 PM)
hi guys, if we always FAST-FORWARD / SKIP HERE SKIP THERE OF VIDEO / FILE MIGRATION, will caused HDD rosak/spoiled  faster? hmm.gif
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Nowadays OS (Win, Linux etc) and video player software caches quite a bit of data on to the RAM and accesses HDD more efficiently so the HDD won't koyak so fast. Moreover most HDD have 64MB build-in cache assist with transfer of large data chunks. The HDD is more likely to koyak from being knocked about when the disk is spinning.

However its a different story if you are running > 2 movies at the same time and doing all those things Asians normally do when watching videos. My comments only applies to PCs and servers which have plenty of RAM and may not apply to media players with embedded OS and small RAM.

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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 31 2013, 02:51 PM)
if red put as boot disk, it is a terrible performance and u will suffer from it
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That was the regret of several users at other forums when they wanted to take advantage of its lower idle power usage and 3yrs warranty.
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QUOTE(meons @ Oct 31 2013, 09:04 PM)
http://www.maximumpc.com/western_digital_p...hard_drives2013
Western Digital Planning to Launch 7-Platter, Helium Filled Hard Drives

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Darn... just when I have bought the reds. At least there is an upgrade path in the next couple of years.
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QUOTE(win7 @ Oct 29 2013, 06:04 AM)
actually, what is the disadvantage of WD GREEN series? icon_question.gif
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ah warranty 2 year... to me (as my opinion) Green is Awesome for Storage/Budget e.g. WD Green 3 TB RM 389.. (make sure your Mobo support this and Format in GPT partition so it detected/ able fully use HDD)

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QUOTE(meons @ Oct 31 2013, 09:04 PM)
http://www.maximumpc.com/western_digital_p...hard_drives2013
Western Digital Planning to Launch 7-Platter, Helium Filled Hard Drives

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each time Helium HDD go rosak word for it " my HDD go Fly and left me with Cat voice" biggrin.gif
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Got a old Seagate Hard disk.

with 5 current pending sector count & 5 uncorrectable sector count.

I tried to

1) Low Level format ( HDDLLF.exe)
2) chkdsk /r /f also tried /b Windows 7
3) speedfan extended test - no errors

But still SMART data is the same.

Any icon_question.gif suggestion I can try?TQ

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post Nov 9 2013, 06:57 AM

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QUOTE(alvinfks78 @ Nov 8 2013, 06:35 PM)
Got a old Seagate Hard disk.

with 5 current pending sector count & 5 uncorrectable sector count.

I tried to

1) Low Level format ( HDDLLF.exe)
2) chkdsk /r /f also tried /b Windows 7
3) speedfan extended test - no errors

But still SMART data is the same.

Any  icon_question.gif suggestion I can try?TQ
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There's really nothing much you can do about a HDD that is experiencing uncorrectable sectors except to get a replacement HDD ready in case of failure. You should not put any critical data on the problem HDD and keep monitoring its SMART values. Make sure that you new HDD are well cushioned from vibration etc in the drive cage.

Low level formatting etc will just makes things worst. There are plenty of tools that claims that they can revive the HDD which has bad sectors but in reality the chances of creating more uncorrectable sectors are higher in the process of reviving the bad sectors as it stresses the mechnical arm of the HDD.




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QUOTE(mrbob @ Nov 9 2013, 07:57 AM)
There's really nothing much you can do about a HDD that is experiencing uncorrectable sectors except to get a replacement HDD ready in case of failure. You should not put any critical data on the problem HDD and keep monitoring its SMART values. Make sure that you new HDD are well cushioned from vibration etc in the drive cage.

Low level formatting etc will just makes things worst. There are plenty of tools that claims that they can revive the HDD which has bad sectors but in reality the chances of creating more uncorrectable sectors are higher in the process of reviving the bad sectors as it stresses the mechnical arm of the HDD.
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thanks for the tip. nod.gif Already backup data guess nothing much else I can do for that drive.

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