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post May 23 2012, 10:52 PM

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May i know if i use SSD as System Drive and BT 24hours on other harddisk will it shorten the SSD life span?? Thank you.
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post May 23 2012, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(pot @ May 23 2012, 10:52 PM)
May i know if i use SSD as System Drive and BT 24hours on other harddisk will it shorten the SSD life span?? Thank you.
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It wont i think, if you dont do a lot of write/erase on the SSD, it will be fine imho.
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post May 23 2012, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(pot @ May 23 2012, 10:52 PM)
May i know if i use SSD as System Drive and BT 24hours on other harddisk will it shorten the SSD life span?? Thank you.
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For a 64GB SSD, as a system drive and 5 Mbps BT 24 hours for 365 days a year for 5 years, you just might reduce its lifespan to only 10 years. Is that good enough for you?
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post May 23 2012, 11:31 PM

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Because some of the BT program might acess the C drive i using SSD. All market SSD having 5 years warranty? Thanks in advance.
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post May 23 2012, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(pot @ May 23 2012, 11:31 PM)
Because some of the BT program might acess the C drive i using SSD. All market SSD having 5 years warranty? Thanks in advance.
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Not all. Majority of them are having 3 years warranty. AFAIK Plextor and OCZ Vertex 4 having 5 years.
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post May 24 2012, 12:00 AM

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I'm looking for a performance type SSD to run my process on daily bases.

Mostly for gaming purpose only and I do record FRAPS very often, Having thoughts on getting a Intel 520 (120gb) or a Intel 320 (120gb) SSD.

Intel 520 120gb = RM580
Intel 320 120gb = RM540

Main question, do I really need a SSD for my usage as a gamer? if so, any SSD out there that are highly recommended for gamer? Because as far as I see, Intel SSD are quite expensive.

Btw, I have plans to get a WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD as well.

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QUOTE(pot @ May 23 2012, 11:31 PM)
Because some of the BT program might acess the C drive i using SSD. All market SSD having 5 years warranty? Thanks in advance.
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Dont worry bout BT first, if you are browsing internet and your internet cache is located on System Drive(SSD),
Your browser is the one doing a lot of writing/reading on Your SSD.(if you watch a lot of video/peektures)
3 or 5 year is a long period, by the time your SSD warranty ends, you already got a cheaper/faster/bigger SSD as main drive already brows.gif
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post May 24 2012, 02:03 AM

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how to verify in Win7 that my ssd is in AHCI mode?
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post May 24 2012, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 24 2012, 02:03 AM)
how to verify in Win7 that my ssd is in AHCI mode?
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Refer to The SSD Optimization Guide link posted on the 1st post. There will be instructions for you to verify.
Depending on your system, you could be using either msahci or iastor.

This post has been edited by tskhang: May 24 2012, 08:33 AM
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post May 24 2012, 08:30 AM

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Just installed a Sandisk Extreme SSD 120GB on my desktop yesterday, my mobo is a P43 so only SATA 3.0Gbps interface... my first time trying out a SSD, no regrets! PC feels like it got 'upgraded'. I guess the low seek time does help a lot despite I'm only getting 250MB/s read based on CrystalDiskMark.
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post May 24 2012, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(pot @ May 23 2012, 11:31 PM)
Because some of the BT program might acess the C drive i using SSD. All market SSD having 5 years warranty? Thanks in advance.
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My estimate included having BT downloading to the C drive.

At 5 Mbps, you could potentially download 50 GB a day. SSDs are usually rated for 3,000 p/e cycles (or writes). So for a 64GB SSD, I assume you consume 1 p/e cycle per day (writing 50GB of downloads), which gives you 8.2 years. But most SSDs typically last for much longer than their rated p/e cycles and most users can't actually use that kind of performance, so hitting past 10 years isn't that much of a stretch. Satisfied now?

Most SSDs have only 3 years warranty. But prices are also dropping quite rapidly, so they should be a lot more affordable in three to five years time.

QUOTE(AceKendy @ May 24 2012, 12:00 AM)
I'm looking for a performance type SSD to run my process on daily bases.

Mostly for gaming purpose only and I do record FRAPS very often, Having thoughts on getting a Intel 520 (120gb) or a Intel 320 (120gb) SSD.

Intel 520 120gb = RM580
Intel 320 120gb = RM540

Main question, do I really need a SSD for my usage as a gamer? if so, any SSD out there that are highly recommended for gamer? Because as far as I see, Intel SSD are quite expensive.

Btw, I have plans to get a WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD as well.
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As a gamer, SSDs are only useful in installing games, loading games and loading maps.

As a FRAPs user, it would be useful for writing the huge video files to the drive.

But both the 520 and 320 prices are a bit expensive for my taste as there are cheaper options. Like Intel's 330 120GB which goes at RM449 at most retail places. You should be able to find better offers through the online traders that we have here as well.
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post May 24 2012, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ May 24 2012, 12:53 PM)
Most SSDs have only 3 years warranty. But prices are also dropping quite rapidly, so they should be a lot more affordable in three to five years time.
As a gamer, SSDs are only useful in installing games, loading games and loading maps.

As a FRAPs user, it would be useful for writing the huge video files to the drive.

But both the 520 and 320 prices are a bit expensive for my taste as there are cheaper options. Like Intel's 330 120GB which goes at RM449 at most retail places. You should be able to find better offers through the online traders that we have here as well.
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Thank you for your advice, the truth is...I don't have much knowledge about SSD, but somehow people highly recommended the Intel 520 or the Intel 320 for gamer. As far as I survey, it has nearly the same Read and Write speed as any other cheaper SSD out there.

I think I'll stick with a 1TB HDD for now and save some money for SSD in the future updates. But I'm just wondering, if I already installed my OS in my HDD...will it be difficult for me to move all of those data into my SSD on the future updates?

This post has been edited by AceKendy: May 24 2012, 12:34 PM
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It's because of their reliability.

If you can afford it, just get it now I say. 120gb or more is plenty enough. Got mine as a hantaran almost a year back and it breathe new life into my slow E8400 pc. Using a normal HDD on my pc felt like torture compared to now.


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QUOTE(AceKendy @ May 24 2012, 12:30 PM)
Thank you for your advice, the truth is...I don't have much knowledge about SSD, but somehow people highly recommended the Intel 520 or the Intel 320 for gamer. As far as I survey, it has nearly the same Read and Write speed as any other cheaper SSD out there.

I think I'll stick with a 1TB HDD for now and save some money for SSD in the future updates. But I'm just wondering, if I already installed my OS in my HDD...will it be difficult for me to move all of those data into my SSD on the future updates?
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If you're talking about cloning your entire Windows over, it's a little bit tricky and often times it will be more problematic than its worth.
If just your documents, videos, pictures.. then yes, you can just keep it on the HDD and re-install Windows on the SSD the access your data on the HDD again.
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ May 23 2012, 10:23 PM)
what the different that sold by hikari?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1243420&hl=
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price went up from 390 to 420... shocking.gif
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post May 24 2012, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ May 24 2012, 03:51 PM)
price went up from 390 to 420... shocking.gif
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was 395 this few day..today straight up 420 cry.gif
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post May 24 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Wan @ May 24 2012, 12:52 PM)
It's because of their reliability.

If you can afford it, just get it now I say. 120gb or more is plenty enough. Got mine as a hantaran almost a year back and it breathe new life into my slow E8400 pc. Using a normal HDD on my pc felt like torture compared to now.
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I'm doing the same to my E8400 now biggrin.gif

Btw, my Windows took ages to shut down until I set power options to performance then it shut down as per normal. Why is this? Anyone can explain?

Anyone selling the adaptor for desktop? sad.gif can't find any in garage sales.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ May 24 2012, 04:44 PM)
Btw, my Windows took ages to shut down until I set power options to performance then it shut down as per normal. Why is this? Anyone can explain?
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Do you have HDDs? Were they sleeping before you shut down? Did the performance profile forced the HDDs to stay awake despite being idle for hours? If your answer was yes to all, your shut down was previously delayed by Windows starting up the sleeping HDDs before it can shut down the system.
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QUOTE(AceKendy @ May 24 2012, 12:30 PM)
Thank you for your advice, the truth is...I don't have much knowledge about SSD, but somehow people highly recommended the Intel 520 or the Intel 320 for gamer. As far as I survey, it has nearly the same Read and Write speed as any other cheaper SSD out there.

I think I'll stick with a 1TB HDD for now and save some money for SSD in the future updates. But I'm just wondering, if I already installed my OS in my HDD...will it be difficult for me to move all of those data into my SSD on the future updates?
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You can clone your current HDD with Windows over to the SSD. I personally used CloneZilla to do it and it is free. It is quite simple and straightforward if you read the website's instructions. However, I do recommend that your SSD be bigger than the size of the Windows partition in your current HDD, because this software can only clone to a bigger or equal sized drive than its source drive.

There are some software that enables you to clone from a larger HDD to a smaller SSD but I am not so sure what are they.
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post May 24 2012, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(tskhang @ May 24 2012, 05:44 PM)
You can clone your current HDD with Windows over to the SSD. I personally used CloneZilla to do it and it is free. It is quite simple and straightforward if you read the website's instructions. However, I do recommend that your SSD be bigger than the size of the Windows partition in your current HDD, because this software can only clone to a bigger or equal sized drive than its source drive.

There are some software that enables you to clone from a larger HDD to a smaller SSD but I am not so sure what are they.

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Reply to the bolded part:
Acronis true image, if you purchased Kingstone SSD upgrade kit, it bundle with this software.
which allow user to modify the partition size before cloning, very advanced software imho.
I've tried cloning 96GB <> 120GB SSD back and fort, without any problems.

The free version is WD version http://support.wdc.com/product/downloaddetail.asp?swid=119
Not sure if it does the same thing sweat.gif

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