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post May 24 2012, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ May 24 2012, 11:53 AM)
My estimate included having BT downloading to the C drive.

At 5 Mbps, you could potentially download 50 GB a day. SSDs are usually rated for 3,000 p/e cycles (or writes). So for a 64GB SSD, I assume you consume 1 p/e cycle per day (writing 50GB of downloads), which gives you 8.2 years. But most SSDs typically last for much longer than their rated p/e cycles and most users can't actually use that kind of performance, so hitting past 10 years isn't that much of a stretch. Satisfied now?

Most SSDs have only 3 years warranty. But prices are also dropping quite rapidly, so they should be a lot more affordable in three to five years time.
As a gamer, SSDs are only useful in installing games, loading games and loading maps.

As a FRAPs user, it would be useful for writing the huge video files to the drive.

But both the 520 and 320 prices are a bit expensive for my taste as there are cheaper options. Like Intel's 330 120GB which goes at RM449 at most retail places. You should be able to find better offers through the online traders that we have here as well.
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Thank you everling Sifu and other 'senior' made clear explanation, thank you very much.

So current market which SSD have the highest C/P ratio?? Going to build my Ivy bridge rig soon. =D
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post May 24 2012, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(noobie1 @ May 24 2012, 07:37 PM)
was 395 this few day..today straight up 420  cry.gif
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yeah man; price gone up so fast. sad.gif
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post May 24 2012, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ May 24 2012, 05:05 PM)
Do you have HDDs? Were they sleeping before you shut down? Did the performance profile forced the HDDs to stay awake despite being idle for hours? If your answer was yes to all, your shut down was previously delayed by Windows starting up the sleeping HDDs before it can shut down the system.
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Ahh so that was the reason, yes I do have additional HDDs running. But before this, I didn't had such issues? Some of the shut down took as long as 5 minutes sad.gif
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post May 24 2012, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ May 24 2012, 08:08 PM)
Ahh so that was the reason, yes I do have additional HDDs running. But before this, I didn't had such issues? Some of the shut down took as long as 5 minutes sad.gif
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I have had five HDDs that needed to be woken up, serially, before the computer could shutdown and it take much less than five minutes. Maybe there was another reason or problem. Checking your HDDs SMART statuses might reveal a clue, or not.


Added on May 24, 2012, 9:25 pm
QUOTE(pot @ May 24 2012, 07:10 PM)
So current market which SSD have the highest C/P ratio?? Going to build my Ivy bridge rig soon. =D
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The older smaller capacity and slower SSDs have better P/E cycle counts, some reaching as high as 5,000. The newer, larger capacity, cheaper and faster SSDs are much more fragile, and they keep on getting more fragile for every new generation. Choose your poison. thumbup.gif

To be honest, normal users don't need to worry about the write lifespan. Just pick the SSD that you are comfortable with. I would recommend any cheap, reliable and large capacity SSD that fits the budget to anyone. Please don't be tempted by the high performance SSDs because even the cheap budget SSDs are still extremely fast when compared to HDDs. It is difficult to tell if you have a performance SSD or a budget SSD by feel alone, unless you benchmark it.

This post has been edited by everling: May 24 2012, 09:27 PM
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post May 24 2012, 11:30 PM

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May i know where you guys buy your 3.5" -> 2.5" adapter/converter for SSD? Any LY shop got?
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post May 24 2012, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ May 24 2012, 09:17 PM)
I have had five HDDs that needed to be woken up, serially, before the computer could shutdown and it take much less than five minutes. Maybe there was another reason or problem. Checking your HDDs SMART statuses might reveal a clue, or not.


Added on May 24, 2012, 9:25 pm
The older smaller capacity and slower SSDs have better P/E cycle counts, some reaching as high as 5,000. The newer, larger capacity, cheaper and faster SSDs are much more fragile, and they keep on getting more fragile for every new generation. Choose your poison.  thumbup.gif

To be honest, normal users don't need to worry about the write lifespan. Just pick the SSD that you are comfortable with. I would recommend any cheap, reliable and large capacity SSD that fits the budget to anyone. Please don't be tempted by the high performance SSDs because even the cheap budget SSDs are still extremely fast when compared to HDDs. It is difficult to tell if you have a performance SSD or a budget SSD by feel alone, unless you benchmark it.
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Sifu everling reply so fast(helpful)! =D
Then intel 330, OCZ i can get in my place. Which model recommend for junior? Best bang of buck u can buy for the largest SSD around 400? Thank you.
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post May 25 2012, 12:11 AM

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Hi there
I am new at ssd,may i know how to install IRST without floppy or usb bootable?
Thx
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post May 25 2012, 12:12 AM

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looks like intel ssd are cheapest.....gonna get it end of this month tongue.gif


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post May 25 2012, 12:17 AM

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New noobs user here..
Intel 320 Series Gen3 160gb..
truly demon speed..i rely like it..

but just dont like the way it boot..
i setup to ahci.. each time boot they will pop out some ahci calculations..
make boot up slow.. it takes about 3 - 4 seconds.. possible skip this?

erm..
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post May 25 2012, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(richgod @ May 25 2012, 12:11 AM)
Hi there
I am new at ssd,may i know how to install IRST without floppy or usb bootable?
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Are you installing Win 7? If you are, you don't need the F6 iRST drivers.
You can straight away install the normal drivers within Win 7.
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post May 25 2012, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ May 24 2012, 04:44 PM)
Anyone selling the adaptor for desktop? sad.gif can't find any in garage sales.
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post May 25 2012, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(pot @ May 24 2012, 11:38 PM)
Then intel 330, OCZ i can get in my place. Which model recommend for junior? Best bang of buck u can buy for the largest SSD around 400? Thank you.
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Either Intel's 330 or OCZ's Agility will do. There is less risk with Intel, but if OCZ's Agility behaves, it may save you a little.

This post has been edited by everling: May 25 2012, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(Fjive @ May 24 2012, 11:30 PM)
May i know where you guys buy your 3.5" -> 2.5" adapter/converter for SSD? Any LY shop got?
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i suppose any pc hardware shop in LYP has it. i bought mine from Viewnet for RM20 sweat.gif . but atleast better than CZone where i was quoted RM30 doh.gif .

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is it worth getting OCZ Vertex Plus 120GB for RM290 for a SATA II motherboard?
Or should i just take Intel 330 / Crucial M4 for faster performance and slight future proof?
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post May 25 2012, 04:57 PM

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i have the 128GB crucial M4 SSD...split into 2 partitions of 60GB each...C partition for windows+app and D partition for personal data.

currently, there's only ~10GB used in C drive. still fresh.

can i clone this primary C partition into a portable hdd with 20GB free space? the default win7 backup app good enought for this?

purpose is so that i can clone back the system drive if it's affected/corrupted by virus in the future...no need to reinstall all the drivers and software one by one.
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post May 25 2012, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(daron @ May 25 2012, 04:16 PM)
is it worth getting OCZ Vertex Plus 120GB for RM290 for a SATA II motherboard?
Or should i just take Intel 330 / Crucial M4 for faster performance and slight future proof?
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There is a pro and a con to this situation.

The huge pro is that RM290 price for the 120GB. For current 120GB SSDs, prices start at RM420. Anything cheaper than RM400 is solid 60GB SSD territory.

The SATA 3.0 Gbps performance is not a real issue. You will still feel that the SSD is very fast, and you'll be surprised to feel that SATA 6.0 Gbps SSDs are not that much faster.

The con here is that this model may have compatibility issues. If you are lucky, which is a good chance, than you will be very happy. If you are not lucky, you will need to try to update the firmware and hope it fixed the problem or find another SSD. If you want to try this SSD, I recommend making sure that you have the option to change to another SSD without much extra cost.
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post May 25 2012, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ May 25 2012, 05:02 PM)
There is a pro and a con to this situation.

The huge pro is that RM290 price for the 120GB. For current 120GB SSDs, prices start at RM420. Anything cheaper than RM400 is solid 60GB SSD territory.

The SATA 3.0 Gbps performance is not a real issue. You will still feel that the SSD is very fast, and you'll be surprised to feel that SATA 6.0 Gbps SSDs are not that much faster.

The con here is that this model may have compatibility issues. If you are lucky, which is a good chance, than you will be very happy. If you are not lucky, you will need to try to update the firmware and hope it fixed the problemĀ  or find another SSD. If you want to try this SSD, I recommend making sure that you have the option to change to another SSD without much extra cost.
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is incompatibility a common issue? obviously, changing to a different SSD would be difficult..
Is this isolated to this brand/model?

btw, my mobo is MSI 770 C45 with AMD PII 955 BE..

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post May 25 2012, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(daron @ May 25 2012, 05:22 PM)
is incompatibility a common issue? obviously, changing to a different SSD would be difficult..
Is this isolated to this brand/model?

btw, my mobo is MSI 770 C45 with AMD PII 955 BE..
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Other than incompatibility problems isolated to SandForce-based SSDs (which the OCZ model you are looking at is one), it is hard to say. There was no report on the exact cause of the incompatibilities. Nor was there a report that all the SandForce incompatibility problems with the old SSDs have been settled. I'd say your chances is pretty good, but I'd also only buy it if I have a way out if the SSD has compatibility problems.
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QUOTE(everling @ May 25 2012, 05:33 PM)
Other than incompatibility problems isolated to SandForce-based SSDs (which the OCZ model you are looking at is one), it is hard to say. There was no report on the exact cause of the incompatibilities. Nor was there a report that all the SandForce incompatibility problems with the old SSDs have been settled. I'd say your chances is pretty good, but I'd also only buy it if I have a way out if the SSD has compatibility problems.
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what if i go for other brand/model (non-SandForce-based)? would i be more likely to encounter less problem?
I'd rather pay a bit more to be safe than sorry..
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Crucial M4 128GB SSD on Biostar TPower i45 motherboard (on SATA II)


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