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post Jan 11 2012, 04:24 PM, updated 14y ago

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Hi everyone, this is what happened. I was staying with my elder brother(I called him "animal" now) in my parent house for over 20yrs. During his age 25 until now 34, he is jobless and all the while getting money from my parent. In some point, he conned my parent to sign some legalize document to transfer all my parent assets to him which these all my parent last resource. In total 400k cash + current my parent house(500k). My mother fed-up enough and flied to US work as illegal worker again(she is age 57 now). And my parent house left me, my father and that animal stay together.

Since that animal took all the money included transferred the house to his name, he is the big boss of the house now. Inaddition lucky I bought a new house but now my house just starting renovation(no water and eletric supply), estimate will be completed during march this year. And this is what happened, on monday while I went out to work, that animal called a moving house and 3 big size guys come to my parent house, the 3 big size guys force my father sit on the chair, and he start ordering ppl to break my door and pack all my stuff not in a gentle way and throw into the lori and move it to my new house(Please! my new house is under renovation not ready for living). At 1st, I tot that animal only want to chase me out of my parent house, but a moment later, 2 more lori coming to my new house as well, all the stuffs in the lori are belong to my father!!!! that means this animal chasing my father out of his own house which my parent works so hard to paid off the loan.

Before those barbarians leave, he threaten me that if i goto "cari pasal" to my brother, he will come and find me, I felt like my life are being threatening. Now should I log a police report? What else can I do? I just a common working man in the office. I feels so helpless now, not to mention about my father, it is very humiliation that he chased out by his own son from his own house.

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post Jan 11 2012, 04:31 PM

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I am speechless. I m praying so that animal will be punished. I feel so sakit hati reading ur post.
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(firdaus87 @ Jan 11 2012, 04:31 PM)
I am speechless. I m praying so that animal will be punished. I feel so sakit hati reading ur post.
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Thanks for your concern. Now I just want to start my new life but I just want to make sure that animal wont come and kaciao me again.
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:33 PM

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report to the police. emphasize on he is threathing ur parent.
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Hi Bro,

Legally there is nothing that you can do if the house is under his name. Nevertheless, you can somewhat delay his actions by making a police report.

To face this kinds of cheaters are a bit hard. My suggestion is to try to find another place to stay instead.

Perhaps anyone from a lawyer firm can assist.
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report police or michael chong
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:37 PM

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My god stuff like these still happen in Malaysia.
Putus hubungan with that animal and try invite your mother back you 3 reunion only?
can't give good advice on these man. sad.gif
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:37 PM

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get on the news lo.

samseng won't touch you after that.
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:37 PM

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Either

Karma will find it's way or

You can settle this illegally whistling.gif whistling.gif

Make him disappear like a magician but don't have the last step of the trick brows.gif
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:37 PM

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can report polis arr, even sign liao still can take back becos ur parents don't know what they sign. just need some time
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:37 PM

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Bring this story to the news/media and humiliate your bro. See how his life gets ruined when everyone around him finds out.

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post Jan 11 2012, 04:38 PM

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go fly with ur father to US and started over again...

animal also cannot kacau u anymore...
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:38 PM

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If you think in positive way, your father being chase out is a good option and he stay with you. Of course I believe that you are capable enough to take care of your father right. So since that ANIMAL already taking the step that assist you all to live free, just accept it.

So sorry to hear that he actually con his own blood stuff, as you can say, he didn't got any job and stay like a BOSS in the house for almost 34years without doing anything which mean he is old + stupid in term of knowledge and wisdom. No knowledge, No job, how could he survive with a house which is just 400k?How long can he live up with that?Believe me, in future, he surely will hit the wall hard and maybe one day, he will bend his knee in front you and ask you to help him for living.

Believe in KARMA, do what your best to take care your parents. Just assume that this ANIMAL wasn't exist.
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QUOTE(sfx3000 @ Jan 11 2012, 04:37 PM)
Bring this story to the news/media and humiliate your bro. See how his life gets ruined when everyone around him finds out.
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You still say "your bro" when he's already worse then an animal?

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get a lawyer and discuss how to sue your brother.
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:39 PM

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Report police to be safe..
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You should report to police, as least got a reference if next time something bad really happenned....i pity you bro....
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:39 PM

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I am threatened by a gangster too. Please tell me what to do because i did nothing wrong.

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post Jan 11 2012, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(b16a @ Jan 11 2012, 04:33 PM)
report to the police. emphasize on he is threathing ur parent.
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I'm thinking of report to police incase anything happen to me, he is the main suspicious. But really police will layan me? Like some of my friends say, police dun care about family conflict.


QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Jan 11 2012, 04:35 PM)
Hi Bro,

Legally there is nothing that you can do if the house is under his name. Nevertheless, you can somewhat delay his actions by making a police report.

To face this kinds of cheaters are a bit hard. My suggestion is to try to find another place to stay instead.

Perhaps anyone from a lawyer firm can assist.
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Yup, legally i cant do anything, now im staying in my relative house for time being until my new house is renovated. That animal is a sweet talker to my mum because while he is kid, my mother really sayang him, brought a honda accord for him drive to college, and my parent driving sunny 130Y.
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QUOTE(sfx3000 @ Jan 11 2012, 04:37 PM)
Bring this story to the news/media and humiliate your bro. See how his life gets ruined when everyone around him finds out.
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Or better idea, post his details in FB and alert everyone what an ass he is.
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:40 PM

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should post this on news. all the info too
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go lipot. in the mean time rent a house/room for the both of you.
just make sure that all those stuff(urs & ur dad) is safely kept in ur house.
i feel sorry for u. u tell ur mom edy?
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wtf...

but before that... i must ask u this..

how did ur parents treat ur brother all these while?
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no serious tag?

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post Jan 11 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Jan 11 2012, 04:37 PM)
can report polis arr, even sign liao still can take back becos ur parents don't know what they sign. just need some time
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i agree...

your parents still can challenge the validity of the transfer of ownership,


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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 11 2012, 04:39 PM)
I'm thinking of report to police incase anything happen to me, he is the main suspicious. But really police will layan me? Like some of my friends say, police dun care about family conflict.
Yup, legally i cant do anything, now im staying in my relative house for time being until my new house is renovated. That animal is a sweet talker to my mum because while he is kid, my mother really sayang him, brought a honda accord for him drive to college, and my parent driving sunny 130Y.
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he call samseng come threaten you cannot call police ar?

you cool storying kah bro?
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did you call balanar ?he taiko pj area wan
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:41 PM

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this is internal family matter ,u have to solved it on your own
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Better u report to police.. btw, make a mess wif gangster is serious business.. ph34r.gif
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 11 2012, 04:24 PM)
Hi everyone, this is what happened. I was staying with my elder brother(I called him "animal" now) in my parent house for over 20yrs. During his age 25 until now 34, he is jobless and all the while getting money from my parent. In some point, he conned my parent to sign some legalize document to transfer all my parent assets to him which these all my parent last resource. In total 400k cash + current my parent house(500k). My mother fed-up enough and flied to US work as illegal worker again(she is age 57 now). And my parent house left me, my father and that animal stay together.

Since that animal took all the money included transferred the house to his name, he is the big boss of the house now. Inaddition lucky I bought a new house but now my house just starting renovation(no water and eletric supply), estimate will be completed during march this year. And this is what happened, on monday while I went out to work, that animal called a moving house and 3 big size guys come to my parent house, the 3 big size guys force my father sit on the chair, and he start ordering ppl to break my door and pack all my stuff not in a gentle way and throw into the lori and move it to my new house(Please! my new house is under renovation not ready for living). At 1st, I tot that animal only want to chase me out of my parent house, but a moment later, 2 more lori coming to my new house as well, all the stuffs in the lori are belong to my father!!!! that means this animal chasing my father out of his own house which my parent works so hard to paid off the loan.

Before those barbarians leave, he threaten me that if i goto "cari pasal" to my brother, he will come and find me, I felt like my life are being threatening. Now should I log a police report? What else can I do? I just a common working man in the office. I feels so helpless now, not to mention about my father, it is very humiliation that he chased out by his own son from his own house.
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Cool story Bro rclxms.gif
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Why wud ya still staying wif ur bro? Leave him be. Take your dad and get to ur mom. Live a new life.
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Is that animal balanar? hmm..
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Make sure it gets to the main stream media for your protection. If anything happens to you, at least the suspect is quite obvious. Otherwise, just forget you have this brother. It is nothing wrong to sever the relationship.
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QUOTE(stanleykc @ Jan 11 2012, 04:40 PM)
i agree...

your parents still can challenge the validity of the transfer of ownership,
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yeah i think TS should challenge before any of your parent no longer alive
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Jan 11 2012, 04:41 PM)
this is internal  family matter ,u have to solved it on your own
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obviously its internal family matter lar ~
But he is here to share his thought and hope someone to give opinion, of coz with support. If everything also need to do it internally and externally, then don't live in society pls, go live in the jungle.
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QUOTE(skylee18 @ Jan 11 2012, 04:43 PM)
obviously its internal family matter lar ~
But he is here to share his thought and hope someone to give opinion, of coz with support. If everything also need to do it internally and externally, then don't live in society pls, go live in the jungle.
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if i were u, i will inform my mum
carry father along,
die die also take car about the parent

about the brother,
if u got no intention to talk/whatsoever with him
then i will just let it be

and start my new life

anyhow,
good luck to u
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thank you for all the feedback. I think I will log a police report. For those tot who tot this is fake story, so be it.
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summon /k to ur bro house and we will settle him for you
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 11 2012, 04:39 PM)
I'm thinking of report to police incase anything happen to me, he is the main suspicious. But really police will layan me? Like some of my friends say, police dun care about family conflict.
Yup, legally i cant do anything, now im staying in my relative house for time being until my new house is renovated. That animal is a sweet talker to my mum because while he is kid, my mother really sayang him, brought a honda accord for him drive to college, and my parent driving sunny 130Y.
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Now I get the clear picture...


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sorry to hear that TS... better stay with ur father and ignore that animal... just do the best for ur father... take care ur father and mother nicely bro...
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 11 2012, 04:39 PM)
I'm thinking of report to police incase anything happen to me, he is the main suspicious. But really police will layan me? Like some of my friends say, police dun care about family conflict.
Yup, legally i cant do anything, now im staying in my relative house for time being until my new house is renovated. That animal is a sweet talker to my mum because while he is kid, my mother really sayang him, brought a honda accord for him drive to college, and my parent driving sunny 130Y.
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Just report police..incase anything happens..better be safe than sorry...

Legally, u actually can do something about it. Like others said, u can dispute the transfer. If your parents are the one paying for the house, even easier. Consult your lawyer about this.
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I hope he gets punished .... f***ing retard person... Ppl like him should just die
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lodge a police report for threatening your family

and lodge another for influencing your parent to change the property <- slim chances btw
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Keep us updated also eh smile.gif Good luck man
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u need a good lawyer. go consult one for matters regarding laws
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tat still consider an animal? my dog more better than him and he will xia sui the word of "animal"
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any agreement made under duress is not valid.
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QUOTE(skylee18 @ Jan 11 2012, 04:43 PM)
obviously its internal family matter lar ~
But he is here to share his thought and hope someone to give opinion, of coz with support. If everything also need to do it internally and externally, then don't live in society pls, go live in the jungle.
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so how? everyone say same thing, sure go report police lar.
how u can help personally? so noble ar u!
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QUOTE(mrsafwan @ Jan 11 2012, 04:49 PM)
any agreement made under duress is not valid.
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and can be challenged in the court
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QUOTE(Szzz @ Jan 11 2012, 04:46 PM)
Just report police..incase anything happens..better be safe than sorry...

Legally, u actually can do something about it. Like others said, u can dispute the transfer. If your parents are the one paying for the house, even easier. Consult your lawyer about this.
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I know if my parent want, they can get back the house through court case. However, my mother still protecting him. He make a good excuse to my mum that his business failed, and now the ppl can and collect the house. And my mother... i think she still trust him. All my relatives are pissed but cannot do anything. This guys are ruining my life for more than ten years, i just want to start a new life.
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I believe you can sue you bro,
bcauz there are laws which protect people from cheaters,
if there are no lawyer on behalf of your parents,
you still can file it as your parents is being cheated to sign these documents,
without their conscience.

Because I'm also living with my bro,
and I also inherit a fortune from my parents,
and I heard this from the lawyer tell me no to sign any suspicious document,
after signing it still can file and get it back but hard.
But i believe my bro won't do this to me. smile.gif
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 11 2012, 04:50 PM)
I know if my parent want, they can get back the house through court case. However, my mother still protecting him. He make a good excuse to my mum that his business failed, and now the ppl can and collect the house. And my mother... i think she still trust him. All my relatives are pissed but cannot do anything. This guys are ruining my life for more than ten years, i just want to start a new life.
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TS u veli rich ah ur wishlist so many branded item, naise
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so /k. in future, don't treat your kids too good.
must whack them and kick them out once 20 year old


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1 veli important Q from me, where's the [SERIOUS] tag?

QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jan 11 2012, 04:53 PM)
so /k. in future, don't treat your kids too good.
must whack them and kick them out once 20 year old
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at least thts what my father believed in... luckily all of us go to university. so by 17 all are out.

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if i were you, i will cut and disable his brake, and hopefully he crash a tree and die.

Or maybe put some poison in his meal.
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jan 11 2012, 04:53 PM)
so /k. in future, don't treat your kids too good.
must whack them and kick them out once 20 year old
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sounds bad, but it did work, true story
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QUOTE(suicideroach @ Jan 11 2012, 04:54 PM)
if i were you, i will cut and disable his brake, and hopefully he crash a tree and die.

Or maybe put some poison in his meal.
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ini tengok too much CSI
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everytime hear this type of story, mesti 99.2 % from cheras. why ah? Is it Cheras not for human to live?
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QUOTE(zhenye89 @ Jan 11 2012, 04:54 PM)
sounds bad, but it did work, true story
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im so lucky to be the only kid in the family biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jonn zee @ Jan 11 2012, 04:53 PM)
1 veli important Q from me, where's the [SERIOUS] tag?
at least thts what my father believed in... luckily all of us go to university. so by 17 all are out.
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er.. sorry, i dont quite understand your question. what [SERIOUS] tag you are referring to ?
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jan 11 2012, 04:56 PM)
im so lucky to be the only kid in the family biggrin.gif
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he not animal. he is scum
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If you cant do it legally, I think embarassing him on newspaper should be enough to tarnish his image. Police have little power to settle this kind of problem.



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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 11 2012, 04:56 PM)
er.. sorry, i dont quite understand your question. what [SERIOUS] tag you are referring to ?
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serious tag, so tht ppl wont troll.

btw r u serious? this is happening to u & ur dad?

QUOTE(779364 @ Jan 11 2012, 04:57 PM)
If you cant do it legally, I think embarassing him on newspaper should be enough to tarnish his image. Police have little power to settle this kind of problem.
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if he has the heart to do all that to his parents, he doesnt hv any image to worry abt.

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Just report to the police, if its just a regular argument then police would of cuz ignore it but if it involve gangsters then the police could do something. Even if they dont do anything, at least they have a record of ur report and if anything happen to u or ur father then he will be in deep shit.

Forget about sentiment/brotherhood/family since he dont even value any of that why should you, safety is more important and if he's causing so much trouble just report that *******.
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serious tag, so tht ppl wont troll.

btw r u serious? this is happening to u & ur dad?
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oh ic, ok, i try to change it. and yes it is, just 2days ago(monday).
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 11 2012, 04:39 PM)
That animal is a sweet talker to my mum because while he is kid, my mother really sayang him, brought a honda accord for him drive to college, and my parent driving sunny 130Y.
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i was just about to ask u how can it go this bad. i can see why he is the way he is now.

good luck man. and take good care of your dad.
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lodge police report told that ur parents have been force to sign the aggrement.
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Yeah, go report to police if you feel threatened. At least it is on record.

Then look for a place to stay for you and your father; temporarily at least.


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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jan 11 2012, 04:56 PM)
everytime hear this type of story, mesti 99.2 % from cheras. why ah? Is it Cheras not for human to live?
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1st choice : read through the aggrement and find which law firm and go make unclean business with his lawyer..50% give lawyer as least u get 50% back rather than nothing.

2nd choice : Kill ur brother in accident but before that make sure who is the benefit after his dead.

3th : Get out of him in your life

4th : migrate to other country.

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if ur bro havent married, make sure he have insurance,kill ur bro, call ur mom,bring her back and u will have a good CNY ! smile.gif
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tell ur mom edy or not?
be sure to talk things thru with ur dad.
he must be very2 sad.
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jan 11 2012, 04:56 PM)
everytime hear this type of story, mesti 99.2 % from cheras. why ah? Is it Cheras not for human to live?
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yes u can get back the house if there's no lawyer beside while the form is signed..no one can prove that document..
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wow... i dont know to feel better or sad... i feel better cos there is someone more animal than me.. and sad to know about your condition. especially your mom now.. /cry
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if the gangster come to kacau u... just summon the /k warrior.... we will backup u...
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i am a law student still studying now.based on my understanding,u can still challenge the validity of the document since it is all signed without the concious of ur parent.Or u can filed a freezing order to not let him touch those assets until the case is solved.Hope this help,u should go and discuss with a lawyer and ask for his/her opinion on what u can do.About the gangster thing,u can report to police or seek for help from the MCA PUBLIC SERVICES & COMPLAINTS DEPT.Hope this help! smile.gif

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jan 11 2012, 05:00 PM)
Yeah, go report to police if you feel threatened. At least it is on record. 

Then look for a place to stay for you and your father; temporarily at least.
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I can't offer any useful advice, but just wanna say, TS good luck and hope you and your family will start anew and leave him forever sad.gif I can't understand why someone of the same flesh and blood would do this.
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QUOTE(SummerSunshine @ Jan 11 2012, 04:39 PM)
I am threatened by a gangster too. Please tell me what to do because i did nothing wrong.

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btw,TS make polis report la... nod.gif
hope that animal can be punished...
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tell ur mom edy or not?
be sure to talk things thru with ur dad.
he must be very2 sad.
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My father called my mother after he got back the cellphone from the 3 big size guy. Later on when I try to call my mum, she dont dare to pick up my phone because she sacred i scold her. By my intention was want to know what happening, that animal call someone back without sign, i just wan to make sure he izzit want to chase me out, if yes, give me a week of notif, i willing to move out, atleast all my stuffs are in good conditions now.


I admit I scold my parent last time when i know that their 400k have been transfer to tat animal account. And my mother told me "he wont like this 1 la, he is ur brother, our son, just leave him be la, he need this money to do business". my eye was rolling big enuf. For that moment I already start looking for a new house.
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this isnt your worst nightmare, you should start considering what will happen when he no longer own "your parent's house", ppl like this only know how to spend money, those assets wont last very long.

draw the line now, ask your parent to pick a side, if not after a while u might need to help your "bro" outta something or he go take loan and your parent still be guarantor or something.

What is lost is lost, u cant do much, but the future, u can predict and prepare.
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QUOTE(toniseah @ Jan 11 2012, 05:04 PM)
yes u can get back the house if there's no lawyer beside while the form is signed..no one can prove that document..
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My father called my mother after he got back the cellphone from the 3 big size guy. Later on when I try to call my mum, she dont dare to pick up my phone because she sacred i scold her. By my intention was want to know what happening, that animal call someone back without sign, i just wan to make sure he izzit want to chase me out, if yes, give me a week of notif, i willing to move out, atleast all my stuffs are in good conditions now.
I admit I scold my parent last time when i know that their 400k have been transfer to tat animal account. And my mother told me "he wont like this 1 la, he is ur brother, our son, just leave him be la, he need this money to do business". my eye was rolling big enuf. For that moment I already start looking for a new house.
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1st bold: i dont quite get you
2nd: this is the fucuking good decision by you. very lucky if not i cant imagine what will happen

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fight la bro..not working since 25 no epf no socso no nothing sure can fight back the house one. what kind of animal is that i want to kill it but im not a gangster
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If you think in positive way, your father being chase out is a good option and he stay with you. Of course I believe that you are capable enough to take care of your father right. So since that ANIMAL already taking the step that assist you all to live free, just accept it.

So sorry to hear that he actually con his own blood stuff, as you can say, he didn't got any job and stay like a BOSS in the house for almost 34years without doing anything which mean he is old + stupid in term of knowledge and wisdom. No knowledge, No job, how could he survive with a house which is just 400k?How long can he live up with that?Believe me, in future, he surely will hit the wall hard and maybe one day, he will bend his knee in front you and ask you to help him for living.

Believe in KARMA, do what your best to take care your parents. Just assume that this ANIMAL wasn't exist.
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u did 2 mistake!

1st you shouldn't let this animal know where is your house!

2nd if you know this animal existed you should advise your mother to add your name into her asset!

now you only got 3 choice
1. ask people kao tim him XD

2. sold your house & move to other place but basically this method won't solve the problem in long term & cause u lost a lot money!

3. report police but i believe this method useless

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TS you CAN challenge the ownership change. Consult a lawyer. But before that keep your dad comfortable in a better enviroment. He is more important...
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QUOTE(Donlanmin @ Jan 11 2012, 05:19 PM)
fight la bro..not working since 25 no epf no socso no nothing sure can fight back the house one. what kind of animal is that i want to kill it but im not a gangster
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TS you CAN challenge the ownership change. Consult a lawyer. But before that keep your dad comfortable in a better enviroment. He is more important...
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TS cant do anythings one , since house & asset all under the animal name .
The animal got right to chase them all out .

Fight by lawyer ? No way,TS will waste more money & time only , it got a official transfer agreement between the animal and his parent.
Nothing TS can really do now , TS only things he can do is , post his photo + address , share to everybody , share on facebook / twitter so that everybody know the animal .

Sorry TS , cant really help sad.gif

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1st bold: i dont quite get you
2nd: this is the fucuking good decision by you. very lucky if not i cant imagine what will happen
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I expected tat animal will chase me out, but i tot he will come to my face and say "i want you out of my house". but he didn't he ask ppl come home and broke my room door and use the big black rubbish bags to throw all my stuffs in and move into lori. If he notif me, I will can someone back to move my thing, at least i pack my stuffs in a gentle way. The 3 big size man come in press my on the chair and took his cellphone, so that my dad cannot call me immediately, and tat animal and the moving house can take their time to break my room door and pack the things. 2hours later, he give back the phone to my dad, and my dad calling me at 12pm. I was surprised and duno what is going on, so I call my mum, my mum dun dare to pick up my call. When the moment I reach my parent house, all the belonging already on the way to my new house, and i saw tat animal, i ask him atleast u tell me ur intention of doing so, he pretend like duno me at all.


To clear your curiosity, right from my age 20+, I always quarrel with tat animal because whatever he doing is disgracing the family. And from that time onward, I called my parent in US(my parent started work in US when I was 20, and came back 2yr ago because i use my marry as an excuse to force them back, they are 50+, house loan was pay off, why still want to work in US? you got 400K in hand after all, start some small business and enjoy ur life) from time to time warn them, not to let tat animal con him, but still my parent fall into his trap reason being my mum very sayang him and he is a sweeter talking to my mum. Due to I already quarrel with him, i bet he was thinking about chase me out, well now he did it.
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jan 11 2012, 05:26 PM)
TS cant do anythings one , since house & asset all under the animal name .
The animal got right to chase them all out .

Fight by lawyer ? No way,TS will waste more money & time only , it got a official transfer agreement between the animal and his parent.
Nothing TS can really do now , TS only things he can do is , post his photo + address , share to everybody , share on facebook / twitter so that everybody know the animal .

Sorry TS , cant really help  sad.gif
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QUOTE(leoyew @ Jan 11 2012, 05:25 PM)
u did 2 mistake!

1st you shouldn't let this animal know where is your house!

2nd if you know this animal existed you should advise your mother to add your name into her asset!

now you only got 3 choice
1. ask people kao tim him XD

2. sold your house & move to other place but basically this method won't solve the problem in long term & cause u lost a lot money!

3. report police but i believe this method useless
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Basically all ur ideas are bullshit and useless cool2.gif
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 11 2012, 05:26 PM)
I expected tat animal will chase me out, but i tot he will come to my face and say "i want you out of my house". but he didn't he ask ppl come home and broke my room door and use the big black rubbish bags to throw all my stuffs in and move into lori. If he notif me, I will can someone back to move my thing, at least i pack my stuffs in a gentle way. The 3 big size man come in press my on the chair and took his cellphone, so that my dad cannot call me immediately, and tat animal and the moving house can take their time to break my room door and pack the things. 2hours later, he give back the phone to my dad, and my dad calling me at 12pm. I was surprised and duno what is going on, so I call my mum, my mum dun dare to pick up my call. When the moment I reach my parent house, all the belonging already on the way to my new house, and i saw tat animal, i ask him atleast u tell me ur intention of doing so, he pretend like duno me at all.
To clear your curiosity, right from my age 20+, I always quarrel with tat animal because whatever he doing is disgracing the family. And from that time onward, I called my parent in US(my parent started work in US when I was 20, and came back 2yr ago because i use my marry as an excuse to force them back, they are 50+, house loan was pay off, why still want to work in US? you got 400K in hand after all, start some small business and enjoy ur life) from time to time warn them, not to let tat animal con him, but still my parent fall into his trap reason being my mum very sayang him and he is a sweeter talking to my mum. Due to I already quarrel with him, i bet he was thinking about chase me out, well now he did it.
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Take my words TS , you cant do anythings now , just leave the place . earn more money and revenge .
I know revenge is not so good , but if i were you , i will do it even it's after 5 years 10 years .....
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QUOTE(pavitran @ Jan 11 2012, 05:27 PM)
Doesnt hurt to ask lawyer to check the transfer agreement is valid or not.
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TS can go jabatan Tanah to check either the current property is it under the animal name , if Yes ,
Then no point to appoint a lawyer and fight back , the rate TS will win the case is less than 20% , for the lawyer fees at least RM3-5k , for the period at least take 1-2 years.
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 11 2012, 05:26 PM)
I expected tat animal will chase me out, but i tot he will come to my face and say "i want you out of my house". but he didn't he ask ppl come home and broke my room door and use the big black rubbish bags to throw all my stuffs in and move into lori. If he notif me, I will can someone back to move my thing, at least i pack my stuffs in a gentle way. The 3 big size man come in press my on the chair and took his cellphone, so that my dad cannot call me immediately, and tat animal and the moving house can take their time to break my room door and pack the things. 2hours later, he give back the phone to my dad, and my dad calling me at 12pm. I was surprised and duno what is going on, so I call my mum, my mum dun dare to pick up my call. When the moment I reach my parent house, all the belonging already on the way to my new house, and i saw tat animal, i ask him atleast u tell me ur intention of doing so, he pretend like duno me at all.

To clear your curiosity, right from my age 20+, I always quarrel with tat animal because whatever he doing is disgracing the family. And from that time onward, I called my parent in US(my parent started work in US when I was 20, and came back 2yr ago because i use my marry as an excuse to force them back, they are 50+, house loan was pay off, why still want to work in US? you got 400K in hand after all, start some small business and enjoy ur life) from time to time warn them, not to let tat animal con him, but still my parent fall into his trap reason being my mum very sayang him and he is a sweeter talking to my mum. Due to I already quarrel with him, i bet he was thinking about chase me out, well now he did it.
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oh ok. understood.
now if you wanna fight at court still need to convince ur parents to do so. ur mum especially.
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QUOTE(leoyew @ Jan 11 2012, 05:25 PM)
u did 2 mistake!

1st you shouldn't let this animal know where is your house!
but my mum know, she told tat animal (my mum think brother mah, nvm 1)

2nd if you know this animal existed you should advise your mother to add your name into her asset!
when I aware my parent 400k already conned , the house already transferred to tat animal name. he sent a document to my parent in US ask them to sign.
(this part onward, i not sure this is true or not,  all i heard from my father only)
my father told me at 1st he not willing to sign because some colleagues in US already warn him how serious this is, and my mother want to divorce with my dad =_= if he dun sign.(kns, if this is true, i hate my mum very very much to be frank).

now you only got 3 choice
1. ask people kao tim him XD

2. sold your house & move to other place but basically this method won't solve the problem in long term & cause u lost a lot money!

3. report police but i believe this method useless
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QUOTE(pavitran @ Jan 11 2012, 06:25 PM)
TS you CAN challenge the ownership change. Consult a lawyer. But before that keep your dad comfortable in a better enviroment. He is more important...
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Yeah, consult a lawyer, I believe if the transfer of assets were done under fraudulent basis, we can challenge whether the transfer is legal or not. I believe that there was a landmark case on this. I remember reading it somewhere. It may take years to fight and regain ur parents hard earned monies.
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jan 11 2012, 05:26 PM)
TS cant do anythings one , since house & asset all under the animal name .
The animal got right to chase them all out .

Fight by lawyer ? No way,TS will waste more money & time only , it got a official transfer agreement between the animal and his parent.
Nothing TS can really do now , TS only things he can do is , post his photo + address , share to everybody , share on facebook / twitter so that everybody know the animal .

Sorry TS , cant really help  sad.gif
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The transfer agreement can be reversed. TS stands a good chance reversing it if the loans for the house was paid by the parents and if the son doesn't even pay, which i very much think this is the case, makes it even better for TS.

As for TS. Give an ultimatum to your mum this moment. Either side with you and your dad or don't contact you guys ever again. It sounds harsh but this is for the best. Without your mum, the house is lost anyways.

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TS, why dont u get advise from dato/datuk michael chong? i believe /k/ got a lot of professional lawyer/consultant but at least michael chong got contact numbers of those departments which could assist you. plus he can keep track of your progress.

i think he sure get a lot of these type of cases every year. maybe he can advise you on the next step.

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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jan 11 2012, 05:31 PM)
TS can go jabatan Tanah to check either the current property is it under the animal name , if Yes ,
Then no point to appoint a lawyer and fight back , the rate TS will win the case is less than 20% , for the lawyer fees at least RM3-5k , for the period at least take 1-2 years.
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i mean that there is a section in Contracts Act 1950 where contract can be made voidable if it is made under Undue Influence. even tho the "animal" has the land, can fight back to regain ownership status. but yeah, it cost money. nod.gif

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QUOTE(lastlovesong @ Jan 11 2012, 05:36 PM)
TS, why dont u get advise from dato/datuk michael chong?

i think he sure get a lot of these type case every year. maybe he can advise you on the next step.
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just forget about the house, it never been yours, it belongs to your parent and he cheated your parent's house, its your parent's problem, even you fight it back to your parents, what others will think, now he is the bad guy, and when u win, u are the bad guy, if u are capable, why want to fight for something that never yours ?
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Jan 11 2012, 05:42 PM)
just forget about the house, it never been yours, it belongs to your parent and he cheated your parent's house, its your parent's problem, even you fight it back to your parents, what others will think, now he is the bad guy, and when u win, u are the bad guy, if u are capable, why want to fight for something that never yours ?
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ur mindset got problem sir doh.gif ,In case they are ur parent ?
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Jan 11 2012, 05:42 PM)
just forget about the house, it never been yours, it belongs to your parent and he cheated your parent's house, its your parent's problem, even you fight it back to your parents, what others will think, now he is the bad guy, and when u win, u are the bad guy, if u are capable, why want to fight for something that never yours ?
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Hi, I never mentioned about get back the house, I was asking should i report to police. One way or the other, my parent can't get back the house, like i said --- MY MUM SAYANG HIM SO MUCH. He is marry and got 1 children now, are you willing to fight to the court take back everything from your son? He got children now? He will say my children will not survive if i dim get tat house and money. (i'm sick of hearing this excuse from tat animal again and again)
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TS, i feel ur man.. i had an elder brother who is jobless and take money from parent..
but luckily not as 'smart' and cunning as ur brother..
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jan 11 2012, 04:56 PM)
everytime hear this type of story, mesti 99.2 % from cheras. why ah? Is it Cheras not for human to live?
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maybe my idea is useless but are you sure u will win this case in court?

1.the animal is your parent son, he get the asset sure no issue you can sue him!

2.are you willing wasting your money to fight a case 90% lose?

3.when your mother transfer the asset to him i believe under observed

unless you get some proof that this animal is conning your mother
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Jan 11 2012, 05:42 PM)
just forget about the house, it never been yours, it belongs to your parent and he cheated your parent's house, its your parent's problem, even you fight it back to your parents, what others will think, now he is the bad guy, and when u win, u are the bad guy, if u are capable, why want to fight for something that never yours ?
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Agree.

Since your father is now staying with you, cut off all ties with your brother.

U say he wont last long with any assets, just let him drown in his own problem.
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 11 2012, 05:47 PM)
Hi, I never mentioned about get back the house, I was asking should i report to police. One way or the other, my parent can't get back the house, like i said --- MY MUM SAYANG HIM SO MUCH. He is marry and got 1 children now, are you willing to fight to the court take back everything from your son? He got children now? He will say my children will not survive if i dim get tat house and money. (i'm sick of hearing this excuse from tat animal again and again)
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wait, so even after marry also ur parent support him money and all?
got kids also doh.gif
manusia gagal la ur brother

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TS, i feel ur man.. i had an elder brother who is jobless and take money from parent..
but luckily not as 'smart' and cunning as ur brother..
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I admit this animal is smart due to he got plenty of time to plan his conspiracy, now he win. Chinese ppl always say "no matter how fierce the mother tiger are, it won't eat it own children" and this somemore geng, it is the children eat the mother tiger. sigh~~~
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the main issue is someday if this animal finish all of his money!

will him come to your house and kacao you?

or hurt you?
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beat the hell out of him i f i were you.
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QUOTE(leoyew @ Jan 11 2012, 05:52 PM)
the main issue is someday if this animal finish all of his money!

will him come to your house and kacao you?

or hurt you?
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i already said that at my 1st post, better draw the line now and predict the future, your parents might still side with him, and you want to help your parent, its a never ending story.
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Jan 11 2012, 05:54 PM)
i already said that at my 1st post, better draw the line now and predict the future, your parents might still side with him, and you want to help your parent, its a never ending story.
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later he borrow ah long and put TS parents as penjamin. lagi mampus

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jan 11 2012, 05:51 PM)
Agree.

Since your father is now staying with you, cut off all ties with your brother.

U say he wont last long with any assets, just let him drown in his own problem.
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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Jan 11 2012, 05:51 PM)
wait, so even after marry also ur parent support him money and all?
got kids also doh.gif
manusia gagal la ur brother
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my mum support him. my father is just a puppet to my mum, he is a peaceful person.


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the main issue is someday if this animal finish all of his money!

will him come to your house and kacao you?

or hurt you?
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yes, this is what im worry about, that y i asked should i report police. I will lodge a police case.
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it really breaks my heart to hear this kinda story....

i have 2 uncles also...who disowns the mother who gave birth to them and fed them with her breasts....

my advice is...just leave him alone la...sure got karma 1 dont worry...
dont get urself troubled what you have to do is to treat and honour your parents now
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 11 2012, 05:56 PM)
I'm thinking to public to newspaper announces to the public that we have no more connection with him
my mum support him. my father is just a puppet to my mum, he is a peaceful person. 
yes, this is what im worry about, that y i asked should i report police. I will lodge a police case.
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TS just share the beast photo and write somethings with it .
post here / post at facebook . or else more people will kena conned by this animal one .
At least let us to recognize his animal Looks .
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Police won't care about family case man!

unless someone hurt by this animal they only take action!
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once parents agree
1) file a police report
2) speak to michael chong ( i donno anyone as good as him )
3) get a lawyer and file a caveat on the house. he cannot sell or remortgage the house

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1. u can file/lodge a police report for threatening. Ur animal brother's gangsters threatened u, and u can file a police report for it. it is safe, plus, in future, if they come at u, the police can react faster, by calling IO directly.

2. challenges/rebutal of the house ownership transfer. u can win this, as long as ur parents agreed to it, and willing to cooperate with you. u can seek any legal consultation, and i am sure, they will advise u the same; your parents need to cooperate with u.
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 11 2012, 05:56 PM)
I'm thinking to public to newspaper announces to the public that we have no more connection with him
my mum support him. my father is just a puppet to my mum, he is a peaceful person. 
yes, this is what im worry about, that y i asked should i report police. I will lodge a police case.
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ya good step to severe family ties with this animal..
haiizz same case with mom.. motherly love is the greatest of all, no prejudice even though what happens notworthy.gif

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wow this sucks..

evil ppl always have their ways sad.gif
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 11 2012, 05:56 PM)
I'm thinking to public to newspaper announces to the public that we have no more connection with him
my mum support him. my father is just a puppet to my mum, he is a peaceful person. 
yes, this is what im worry about, that y i asked should i report police. I will lodge a police case.
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400k gone from your parents, so if your brother come ask for help from your parents, are they still capable to do so?

Since you're smarter and not-so-naive to fall for that, im sure u wont help but does your parent think the same?
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how about before your sue this animal, he already transfer all the money to other place or into his bank account?

then you also get nothing is it?
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disown ur brother on national tv, have your father disown him too.
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how about before your sue this animal, he already transfer all the money to other place or into his bank account?

then you also get nothing is it?
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he's not thinking of getting money back. Ts just don wan any further problem from his animal brother. safety issues, not fight property issue
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Actually, you can ask a Lawyer to get back your property since your parents signed without acknowledgement.
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report polis, if he conned ur parents into signing those documents, it's invalid
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safety can't avoided!

u report police? he still can hurt you!

Unless u hiding and don't want let him know but your mother saying him very difficult in this case
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wtf??? i hope that animal hit by lorry multiple time... sorry to know this TS...
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 11 2012, 04:24 PM)
Hi everyone, this is what happened. I was staying with my elder brother(I called him "animal" now) in my parent house for over 20yrs. During his age 25 until now 34, he is jobless and all the while getting money from my parent. In some point, he conned my parent to sign some legalize document to transfer all my parent assets to him which these all my parent last resource. In total 400k cash + current my parent house(500k). My mother fed-up enough and flied to US work as illegal worker again(she is age 57 now). And my parent house left me, my father and that animal stay together.

Since that animal took all the money included transferred the house to his name, he is the big boss of the house now. Inaddition lucky I bought a new house but now my house just starting renovation(no water and eletric supply), estimate will be completed during march this year. And this is what happened, on monday while I went out to work, that animal called a moving house and 3 big size guys come to my parent house, the 3 big size guys force my father sit on the chair, and he start ordering ppl to break my door and pack all my stuff not in a gentle way and throw into the lori and move it to my new house(Please! my new house is under renovation not ready for living). At 1st, I tot that animal only want to chase me out of my parent house, but a moment later, 2 more lori coming to my new house as well, all the stuffs in the lori are belong to my father!!!! that means this animal chasing my father out of his own house which my parent works so hard to paid off the loan.

Before those barbarians leave, he threaten me that if i goto "cari pasal" to my brother, he will come and find me, I felt like my life are being threatening. Now should I log a police report? What else can I do? I just a common working man in the office. I feels so helpless now, not to mention about my father, it is very humiliation that he chased out by his own son from his own house.
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I suggest you stay this new house for 1 - 2 yrs sell it off. Then get another house don't reveal no shit to him. Just screw him lar. OR just sell it off straight away. Property no rugi one lar but for safety purposes you MUST.

Better to leave now because ass-holes like him will bring more trouble. Imagine he borrow a huge sum of money from ah longs.

And by the way, in this world how 'animal' you are you still have to go down if people want you to. Go figure.

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 11 2012, 06:11 PM)
he's not thinking of getting money back. Ts just don wan any further problem from his animal brother. safety issues, not fight property issue
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Severe all ties.

Unless his brother wants a piece of TS's money and house, now that's a problem.

Another scenario: TS's mum beg TS to help his bro in the future, another problem.

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This is so sad. I'm really sorry to hear this TS.
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What a life man..feel sorry for u..u should hv gangster frenz..lol..then he wont dare to approach u..

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pity your dad ... kena halau by own son
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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Jan 11 2012, 04:35 PM)
Hi Bro,

Legally there is nothing that you can do if the house is under his name. Nevertheless, you can somewhat delay his actions by making a police report.

To face this kinds of cheaters are a bit hard. My suggestion is to try to find another place to stay instead.

Perhaps anyone from a lawyer firm can assist.
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thats why people like you are stupid easily get conned.

if your brother cheated your parents, or threaten to transfer things to ur brother

please go n seek help from a lawyer firm. hopefully can get back all ur stuff.
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QUOTE(lucifer401 @ Jan 11 2012, 07:24 PM)
thats why people like you are stupid easily get conned.

if your brother cheated your parents, or threaten to transfer things to ur brother

please go n seek help from a lawyer firm. hopefully can get back all ur stuff.
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afraid that his brother is a clever guy, he take out all the money and selling the house before you sue him
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i cant help anything but just can say good luck TS and may god be your side and your parents, take extra care of your parents, give your father a call every few hour when you are working to make sure your father is alright sad.gif

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I dont think TS would want get back the old house, he just want to start anew and not bother about his bro anymore.

Good move really.

Problem is the parents, are they willing to 'potong' like TS?
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...i'm surprised that /k/ hasn't even ask for TS bro pic at all
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QUOTE(Apple_DarreN @ Jan 11 2012, 06:12 PM)
Actually, you can ask a Lawyer to get back your property since your parents signed without acknowledgement.
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"In some point, he conned my parent to sign some legalize document to transfer all my parent assets to him which these all my parent last resource. In total 400k cash + current my parent house(500k)" From TS

I think from what Ts say , the animal has convince his parent to sign everythings document ( for doing business ) .
So even today his father has regret to sign , it's useless already for now to appoint a lawyer & fight back .....
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QUOTE(MissIceRina @ Jan 11 2012, 06:36 PM)
after reading 8 pages...

...i'm surprised that /k/ hasn't even ask for TS bro pic at all
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i got ask
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Tell ur mom, NO.

Tell ur mom he is a shit, and after such shits and she still want to help the beast?

and lodge report and sue him.


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lodge report and consult lawyer, can say your parents were under undue influence and void the contract to get back the house.
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i got ask
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jan 11 2012, 06:36 PM)
"In some point, he conned my parent to sign some legalize document to transfer all my parent assets to him which these all my parent last resource. In total 400k cash + current my parent house(500k)" From TS

I think from what Ts say , the animal has convince his parent to sign everythings document ( for doing business ) .
So even today his father has regret to sign , it's useless already for now to appoint a lawyer & fight back .....
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If TS parent willfully signed the document (which I believe they did, considering how much TS mother trust TS bro), then there is hardly any case.

It's not uncommon for parent to transfer ownership/title to their children when they get old.
Heck, my parent are going to do that soon.

The purpose of this is that in the event they pass away, their assets would not be frozen (gov will freeze it for 3-5 years i think).
Their sons and daughters would have immediate access to it instead (to pay for funeral, medical, etc)

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Either rehost it on some other image-hosting site (i.e. Imgur) or remove it entirely.

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QUOTE(MissIceRina @ Jan 11 2012, 06:51 PM)
Uncle, your siggy is starting to really annoy me.

Either rehost it on some other image-hosting site (i.e. Imgur) or remove it entirely.

Your broken-linked-siggy is making me scroll a lot.
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legally ntg can be done...well i guess for now u can oni speed thing up in your new home..hmm...

then again bliv in karma bro..if one day he run out of money or in trouble he sure will find u...that day..it time to turn the table...
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why would u father transfer the house to him? soli din read all 9 pages
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You can still sue him to get the property back. You just need to convince your parents to go with it. Your lawyer can argue on several grounds: that your father was of "unsound mind" at the time and was not aware of what he was doing. It doesn't matter if every neighbor and their dog knows your dad is perfectly fine, all he needs to do is convince the judge and a doctor.

Secondly, you can have a lawyer draft up a will and have it backdated. This means your father actually has willed everything to you (and/or your mother) before your brother's agreement. Your lawyer have ample grounds to fight, such as your brother is unfit to take care of your parents (does your brother have a criminal record? Is he a declared bankrupt?).

Thirdly, where are your relatives?

Even if such measures might not give you the outcome you wanted, you and your lawyer can very easily "freeze" the assets and tie it up in legal limbo for months if not years. Eventually he would need to come to you to settle it. Make sure you have trustworthy friends/relatives with you when he does.




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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jan 11 2012, 07:58 PM)
You can still sue him to get the property back. You just need to convince your parents to go with it. Your lawyer can argue on several grounds: that your father was of "unsound mind" at the time and was not aware of what he was doing. It doesn't matter if every neighbor and their dog knows your dad is perfectly fine, all he needs to do is convince the judge and a doctor.

Secondly, you can have a lawyer draft up a will and have it backdated. This means your father actually has willed everything to you (and/or your mother) before your brother's agreement. Your lawyer have ample grounds to fight, such as your brother is unfit to take care of your parents (does your brother have a criminal record?).

Thirdly, where are your relatives?
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but his brother is animal ! crazy 1 ! if get back house from him the only way is hiding yourself if not he may will kacao him kao kao
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but his brother is animal ! crazy 1 ! if get back house from him the only way is hiding yourself if not he may will kacao him kao kao
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Many people would suggest fight fire with fire and/or stand up to him to stop the bullying, but unfortunately this is the real world and bullies often win. The only real recourse to cause as much legal inconvenience as possible, even bullies can't ignore it forever. Should any harm come to you in the mean time, it only makes your case even more convincing.
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jan 11 2012, 08:03 PM)
Many people would suggest fight fire with fire and/or stand up to him to stop the bullying, but unfortunately this is the real world and bullies often win. The only real recourse to cause as much legal inconvenience as possible, even bullies can't ignore it forever. Should any harm come to you in the mean time, it only makes your case even more convincing.
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your means risk his life and use legal to stop his brother?
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Hehe should tell him to continue staying at new house. I want to see how long can you stand.
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I feel sorry for you while reading your thread.. But cant help any things.. Just can give you mental support rclxms.gif .. May god bless you..

Btw, I saw some reply said wait for karma.. Bullshit.. There is only karma if u take action on it..

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QUOTE(zeist @ Jan 11 2012, 08:07 PM)
Hehe should tell him to continue staying at new house. I want to see how long can you stand.
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your means risk his life and use legal to stop his brother?
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It's all up to him really. Posting here on the net asking for help already means he's desperate.
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You can still sue him to get the property back. You just need to convince your parents to go with it. Your lawyer can argue on several grounds: that your father was of "unsound mind" at the time and was not aware of what he was doing. It doesn't matter if every neighbor and their dog knows your dad is perfectly fine, all he needs to do is convince the judge and a doctor.

Secondly, you can have a lawyer draft up a will and have it backdated. This means your father actually has willed everything to you (and/or your mother) before your brother's agreement. Your lawyer have ample grounds to fight, such as your brother is unfit to take care of your parents (does your brother have a criminal record? Is he a declared bankrupt?).

Thirdly, where are your relatives?

Even if such measures might not give you the outcome you wanted, you and your lawyer can very easily "freeze" the assets and tie it up in legal limbo for months if not years. Eventually he would need to come to you to settle it. Make sure you have trustworthy friends/relatives with you when he does.
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If TS bro goes by my post argument, there is nothing his parent can do as well.

QUOTE(MissIceRina @ Jan 11 2012, 06:47 PM)
If TS parent willfully signed the document (which I believe they did, considering how much TS mother trust TS bro), then there is hardly any case.

It's not uncommon for parent to transfer ownership/title to their children when they get old.
Heck, my parent are going to do that soon.

The purpose of this is that in the event they pass away, their assets would not be frozen (gov will freeze it for 3-5 years i think).
Their sons and daughters would have immediate access to it instead (to pay for funeral, medical, etc)
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And also, he would have to be tested by a trained and qualified psychologist. And it's unlike it he would pass unless there is strong reason for him to be mentally "unsound" in the first place.
Besides, this are argument is not a strong evidence 'cos it's circumstantial. Otherwise, everyone would start claiming their are mentally "unsound"

I believe it would be illegally to a lawyer to backdate a will just like that.
At present, they no longer own the property. I.e. Your can't just simply sell something to A and then claim that you already sold it to B earlier.

Their relatives has no right to intervene in their family matter and are just as powerless as us.

TS could try to make it hard for his bro, but remember, his bro can easily just as well make it hard for TS.
This can be seen when TS bro ask 3 people to break down his door.
Who knows what else he is willing to do (he even kicked his parent out)
And aside from the financial cost, it would also break TS mom heart.

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report police or michael chong
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btw..ur animal sounded like my animal too..ppl like these reli shld die 1st


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ask diablo curse him XD
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It honestly saddens me when I read what you and your parents have gone through. I am thankful that my brother is such a caring individual who is also the closest ally I have in my life.

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you should report police, if anything happen , you can use that report as reference.

then find michael chong. go into news.

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Better to move somewhere he dont know you were there.Its kinda dangerous for you now
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I feel sorry for you TS...better make police report..if possible move somewhere new other than your new house since he know that address...

but I kenot brain, this guy can oso marry and have child..Fuuu,,,Girls today no brain kah or just look at the money being splashed ...He must be a super smooth talker..I pity your niece or nephew, Kesian ada bapak macamnie..
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I feel sorry that you have such a brother. He doesn't know how to think?


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Since he chase both of u, then just stay ur new house and forget the animal. Maybe this moment u just tell ur close friend or relatives that stay their house until ur new house fully renovate, then only move it just couple months to wait only. That animal is cannot save anymore, just wait and let the god punish him in future.

Confirm one day he will used up all the money and find u guys back, that time just ignore him and report police.
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Actually your father transferred those asset to him not under sound mind... can get a lawyer
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i will update here if any progress, i still want to discuss with my father where want to announce in the newspaper or not. Once i do so, there is no turning back, and i not sure my mother can take it or not.

Let me explain more about this animal so that you guys can know more about him. For primary & 2ndary school my parent sent him to an international school, every semester have to pay around rm7k+. My mother tried to give him the best, so every semester my mother borrow money from relative one by one just to paid his school fees. At that time I still young, I duno so much about this, but one of my auntie told me that, tat animal ask my mum to park her car far away for school compound because he dun wan other classmates saw his parent car are actually some cheap car.

during college, my mother sent him to Taylor, then swift to INTI and lastly to Metropolitan, I cant tell much because at that time I oso duno so much about him, as I mentioned in the early post, my mother bought a honda accord for him drive to college, that y a midget looks like him can get chics in college. after 3 or 4 yrs of college life, i duno he completed his course or not. The only thing I knew is when I start my college life he already start work as c.card promoter.

once i start my college life, my parent flied to US cari emas because of wanted to pay off all the debts borrowed from relatives and pay house loan + my college fees.

1 day when he is driving, he sudden told me that "you see! all other parent give something to their son(he was referring to money), and what our parent left for us"? I was stunned the moment when i heard that but i keep quiet.

when he was around 25yrs old, he started his jobless life, but i heard from relatives that my mother send him money every month that why he can survive without working.

Around his 30, he demand a lum sum of money 30k from my mother because he tried to start a small business to earn income, that is a good start. than 3 months later, game over, 30K went into drain. Because of this so called small business causing the electric bill spike up to rm1k+, and he dare to bring the bill to my auntie ask her to pay, my auntie after that call me to her house and tell me, "y the electric bill so expensive? i wont pay for this.". At tat time i already work as a fresh graduate newbie in IT field, i was getting 1.7k at tat moment. after deduce from this electric bill + car loan, my remaining cash left only rm200-300. Thanks to my gf(my wife now) who suppose me. I bet tat animal until now oso havent notice that I'm the 1 who makan kucing mati for tat electric bill.

over here, let me explain abit about my grandpa, my grandpa was a wisdom-man, during 50s or 60s, he work hard and save alot money that starting invest alot properties in KL near bukt bintang. So before my grandpa pass away, he gave 1 of the propety to my parent which worth rm800k but 50% shares gave to my grandpa partner. So this property initially just rent to some foreign workers, every month rental fees should be few thousands. So since my parent was working in US, my mother give him authority to collect rental fees.

This is where the nightmare start, he getting the rental money and my mother send money from US to him at the same time, wow freaking wealthy!!! And I still work like a cow. So 2yrs ago, he mail a set of documents to my parent in US, telling them, now got buyer want that rm800k building, can't waiting anymore, you sign the attorney document and i will handle the rest. So my parent sign it(actually my father not willing to sign, but my mother use "divorce" to force him)

So I bet you guys already know what happen next, tat animal sold the building, give 50% share back to another owner, then keep this money secretly, until my parent came back, and 1 day bring a buyer to see the building then they only realized this animal sold the building and nvr inform them.

So my mother ask him why, his excuses are "aaron(me) got degree cert, he can cari makan, i got nothing, of course i take all the money". hahaha, sound so fake right? yes, this happened to my parent. So the next statement he told my parent is "i oso transfer the house to my name ald, aaron(me) can cari makan, he can buy house out there" =.=

my mother fed-up flied back to US and try to escape from reality, but too bad, 2 yrs later which is last monday, the most entertainment part happen, tat animal chase my father and I out of the house and use gangster to threaten me.

Sorry for my bad English, and yes this is real, so moral of the story, keep the money for urself even your children cannot be trust.

Some of you must be curious that y my mother SAYANG him so much? This was what happened, my mother like to gamble during her young age, when tat animal born, my mother let him pick 4digit number for kuda, so dang dang 1st prize!!!! and again 2nd prize.

when i was born, i didnt bring any "lucky" to her, so tat the reason she like tat animal more than me.
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have thou spoken to a lawyer yet?

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air dicincang tidak akan putus.. berbaik baiklah dengan abang anda sempena Tahun Baru Cina..

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have thou spoken to a lawyer yet?
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My intention now is how to protect my family, not to fight back the house. This will not happen, if can 2yr ago, all my relative already successful convinced my mother to take action.
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wow, u could sell this script to TVB and make some money!
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QUOTE(sharpeye @ Jan 11 2012, 10:50 PM)
air dicincang tidak akan putus.. berbaik baiklah dengan abang anda sempena Tahun Baru Cina..

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My intention now is how to protect my family, not to fight back the house. This will not happen, if can 2yr ago, all my relative already successful convinced my mother to take action.
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I sure don't see a difference between going to the lawyer versus reporting it in the newspaper. The former solution seems to be better as it gets shit done.



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wow, u could sell this script to TVB and make some money!
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wow, u could sell this script to TVB and make some money!
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The story is better than tvb right? Yes it is. It more geng than 溏心风暴。
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Sorry bro but your mum sounds like a retard. Sayang the brother because she was lucky in her numbers gambling. That is quite a pathetic thing to do

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If you mum can't take it, will she do anything stupid?? since she love the animal so much, better think about it, or you will blame yourself forever.
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QUOTE(MikeLeo @ Jan 11 2012, 10:57 PM)
If you mum can't take it, will she do anything stupid?? since she love the animal so much, better  think about it, or you will blame yourself forever.
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Tat y I have to discuss with my dad 1st. If my dad say no then I won't announce to newspaper. I only can see him this weekend, after chased out by tat animal I staying in 1 relative house and my father stay at another relative house.
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Find all keyboard warrior in "K" and go teach the "animal" a lesson.
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i feel u mang..sad story... sad.gif

soo if u want to be safe, just report puhlis..explain everthing...

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dude, the only solution is for you and for your father to take back the house when your brother dies without wife or children.
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take photos and video of what happen; ie the stuff in your renovating house. then send to your mom.

Ask her to upload to youtube.
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QUOTE(waikit @ Jan 11 2012, 10:07 PM)
Since he chase both of u, then just stay ur new house and forget the animal. Maybe this moment u just tell ur close friend or relatives that stay their house until ur new house fully renovate, then only move it just couple months to wait only. That animal is cannot save anymore, just wait and let the god punish him in future.

Confirm one day he will used up all the money and find u guys back, that time just ignore him and report police.
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THIS.

You've got your own house, your father is staying with you. You're not messing with your brother anymore so its all safe.

Avoiding a fight doesnt mean you need to lose your ground.
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kill the animal !!!
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TS mother sound pretty much like my grandparents, who favor the eldest whereas the other kids can go eat shit.

Baztards.
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ts, your brother seems to be the cunning type, yet have problem managing his finance, most likely due to his past pampered life. most likely in the near future, he will be out of money and will be forced to fork out a loan to sustain his family. when that happen - chances are he will target your mom, using her name. how will you react to that?


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fuu what a very unlucky life to have.

dunno how to help brah.if me of coz that animal wont be live on this world anymore. dun worry that barbarian wont look for u if he die.thay r just there becoz they has been paid.
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TS not a good way to annouance on newspaper ba , anyway i betul kesian u got such a animal bro , u still can tahan until now ..
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TS, have u ever think to kill that animal??? I mean kill him by your own..
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bro, i dunno if other /k have suggested u this, lazy to read every pages~ but maybe u can seek legal advise from here: Lawyers Corner

on u can PM dariofoo the TS of dat thread~ hope you can settle this~ smile.gif
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psssst! i heard u can take him down Hui-Man Keong style for 5k only.
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QUOTE(aweeff @ Jan 11 2012, 11:49 PM)
TS, have u ever think to kill that animal??? I mean kill him by your own..
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Unless he is pro killer lar , or else he killed the animal , he masuk jail , his father how ?
haha , but then for me , i might really beh tahan and find people pukul my bro ..
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hey bro, can i have the contact details of that animal? i will personally do something to him smile.gif or wreck his life up for you .

my bro is somehow similar except hasnt gotten to that extreme compared to that animal so i understand how it feels.
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1st of all, just make a report police for further protection

after that, just stay at your new house. end of story

why bother him so much? if you stay in your house, he wont kacau you anymore. can your mom ask you to give your house to your bro? no right?
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QUOTE(alimsacred @ Jan 11 2012, 11:30 PM)
ts, your brother seems to be the cunning type, yet have problem managing his finance, most likely due to his past pampered life. most likely in the near future, he will be out of money and will be forced to fork out a loan to sustain his family. when that happen - chances are he will target your mom, using her name. how will you react to that?
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well, TS is big enough to make his decision. i dont think his mom can direct him what to do next
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careful..he might use ur mom to take ur money after this
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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jan 12 2012, 12:03 AM)
1st of all, just make a report police for further protection

after that, just stay at your new house. end of story

why bother him so much? if you stay in your house, he wont kacau you anymore. can your mom ask you to give your house to your bro? no right?
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his new house not yet have electricity & water , and he and his father is now chase out by the animal .
If i were him , i wont just " leave it and pretend nothing " , bro it's a bout sooo much money and personal dignity . if happen on you , i dont think u will just swallow it to your tummy and tomorrow will be happy .
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QUOTE(Scar_face @ Jan 12 2012, 12:08 AM)
careful..he might use ur mom to take ur money after this
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This is what TS should be worrying about.
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When people post here, they will tell their side of the story. They will be sure to include everything that favours them, and leave out anything that will make them look bad. Since he isn't here to tell his side of the story, I'll just make up something. smile.gif TS can correct the inaccuracies.

Big bro is described as "jobless". Does this mean he just sit on the couch and watch TV for 15 years? Or he did not get a nine-to-five job, but did other kinds of jobs? There are many people like this. People with stalls in pasar malam. People selling char kuey teow from a stall in a shop.

Perhaps he had lousy results in school and cannot get any job that pays enough? Would little bro respect him more if he got a job as a janitor that pays RM700 a month? He wouldn't describe him as "jobless" but might call him "stupid" instead.

Perhaps big bro got into lots of "projects" and none worked out. Then he had an idea for yet another business, and convinced mom and dad to "invest". Then big bro convince dad to transfer ownership of the house. Maybe he charged it to raise more funds. Who knows. Little brother would be understandably peeved once he finds out that the parents have given all their money to big bro. He wants a share of it.

The new project hasn't failed yet. Little bro is convinced it will, due to big bro's poor track record. He thinks it's just throwing away money. But of course big bro does not agree. He wouldn't embark on it if he thought it wouldn't work. Or perhaps it's just starting to go sour, and big bro blames little bro for all the pessimistic talk. Maybe he thinks little bro has cursed his new biz with all the negative energy.

After festering for a while, this blows up in a big argument. And big bro gets his palls to evict little bro. At least he sent all the belongings to the new house. Not just throw it out the gate. smile.gif

To avoid this problem, I tell my parents to not even try to pass on a big inheritence. They should just spend it all. Go for holidays. Buy stuff. Spend it in anyway. I have only one sibling. We will share their house if we outlive both of them. If they spend all their money and still live for decades, we will take care of them. Neither of us are rich. The holidays will have to be further apart once the money is gone. But we will pay living expenses, medical fees, etc.
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although ur mum is in denial, she's the one hurting the most for giving birth to such animal

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When people post here, they will tell their side of the story. They will be sure to include everything that favours them, and leave out anything that will make them look bad. Since he isn't here to tell his side of the story, I'll just make up something. smile.gif TS can correct the inaccuracies.

Big bro is described as "jobless". Does this mean he just sit on the couch and watch TV for 15 years? Or he did not get a nine-to-five job, but did other kinds of jobs? There are many people like this. People with stalls in pasar malam. People selling char kuey teow from a stall in a shop.

Perhaps he had lousy results in school and cannot get any job that pays enough? Would little bro respect him more if he got a job as a janitor that pays RM700 a month? He wouldn't describe him as "jobless" but might call him "stupid" instead.

Perhaps big bro got into lots of "projects" and none worked out. Then he had an idea for yet another business, and convinced mom and dad to "invest". Then big bro convince dad to transfer ownership of the house. Maybe he charged it to raise more funds. Who knows. Little brother would be understandably peeved once he finds out that the parents have given all their money to big bro. He wants a share of it.

The new project hasn't failed yet. Little bro is convinced it will, due to big bro's poor track record. He thinks it's just throwing away money. But of course big bro does not agree. He wouldn't embark on it if he thought it wouldn't work. Or perhaps it's just starting to go sour, and big bro blames little bro for all the pessimistic talk. Maybe he thinks little bro has cursed his new biz with all the negative energy.

After festering for a while, this blows up in a big argument. And big bro gets his palls to evict little bro. At least he sent all the belongings to the new house. Not just throw it out the gate. smile.gif

To avoid this problem, I tell my parents to not even try to pass on a big inheritence. They should just spend it all. Go for holidays. Buy stuff. Spend it in anyway. I have only one sibling. We will share their house if we outlive both of them. If they spend all their money and still live for decades, we will take care of them. Neither of us are rich. The holidays will have to be further apart once the money is gone. But we will pay living expenses, medical fees, etc.
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I think I have to agree on this. Usually everything we post tend to be bias. You do make some point there. You got a very imaginative mind =D creating such a scenario. This, I salute you =D

But I will say, consult a lawyer and see what are your legal options available before taking any action against your brother.
If legal actions cant be taken against him. Then its up to your imagination how you want it to be settle the matter.

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this story is kinda stupid.
Sry but u have a foolish mother.
Disowned ur brother.

migrate to other state and get a new job and new life.
dun let ur mum or Bro know Whr u stay
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 11 2012, 10:36 PM)
Some of you must be curious that y my mother SAYANG him so much? This was what happened, my mother like to gamble during her young age, when tat animal born, my mother let him pick 4digit number for kuda, so dang dang 1st prize!!!! and again 2nd prize.

when i was born, i didnt bring any "lucky" to her, so tat the reason she like tat animal more than me.
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"In some point, he conned my parent to sign some legalize document to transfer all my parent assets to him which these all my parent last resource. In total 400k cash + current my parent house(500k)" From TS

I think from what Ts say , the animal has convince his parent to sign everythings document ( for doing business ) .
So even today his father has regret to sign , it's useless already for now to appoint a lawyer & fight back .....
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If I lie to you and convince you to sign document give me all your property, cannot do anything although I lie to you?
Please la don't be dumb.

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If TS parent willfully signed the document (which I believe they did, considering how much TS mother trust TS bro), then there is hardly any case.

It's not uncommon for parent to transfer ownership/title to their children when they get old.
Heck, my parent are going to do that soon.

The purpose of this is that in the event they pass away, their assets would not be frozen (gov will freeze it for 3-5 years i think).
Their sons and daughters would have immediate access to it instead (to pay for funeral, medical, etc)
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Lol where the fook u learn all this, why wanna freeze the assets? please dont give wrong advice.
and he already said the brother 'conned' there's no willfully in that.

QUOTE(ray123 @ Jan 11 2012, 06:58 PM)
You can still sue him to get the property back. You just need to convince your parents to go with it. Your lawyer can argue on several grounds: that your father was of "unsound mind" at the time and was not aware of what he was doing. It doesn't matter if every neighbor and their dog knows your dad is perfectly fine, all he needs to do is convince the judge and a doctor.

Secondly, you can have a lawyer draft up a will and have it backdated. This means your father actually has willed everything to you (and/or your mother) before your brother's agreement. Your lawyer have ample grounds to fight, such as your brother is unfit to take care of your parents (does your brother have a criminal record? Is he a declared bankrupt?).

Thirdly, where are your relatives?

Even if such measures might not give you the outcome you wanted, you and your lawyer can very easily "freeze" the assets and tie it up in legal limbo for months if not years. Eventually he would need to come to you to settle it. Make sure you have trustworthy friends/relatives with you when he does.
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Dont give wrong advice please. If neighbor knows he is of sound mind, that is evidence admissible.

QUOTE(MissIceRina @ Jan 11 2012, 07:13 PM)
If TS bro goes by my post argument, there is nothing his parent can do as well.
And also, he would have to be tested by a trained and qualified psychologist. And it's unlike it he would pass unless there is strong reason for him to be mentally "unsound" in the first place.
Besides, this are argument is not a strong evidence 'cos it's circumstantial. Otherwise, everyone would start claiming their are mentally "unsound"

I believe it would be illegally to a lawyer to backdate a will just like that.
At present, they no longer own the property. I.e. Your can't just simply sell something to A and then claim that you already sold it to B earlier.

Their relatives has no right to intervene in their family matter and are just as powerless as us.

TS could try to make it hard for his bro, but remember, his bro can easily just as well make it hard for TS.
This can be seen when TS bro ask 3 people to break down his door.
Who knows what else he is willing to do (he even kicked his parent out)
And aside from the financial cost, it would also break TS mom heart.
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1 more stupidpucuk. LOL not a strong evidence because it is 'circumstantial' go jump down a bridge please. In a crime scene, you found a guy holding a knife with his hands stained with blood and you see another dead guy with stab wounds, you would come to the conclusion that the guy holding the knife is the killer. is that not circumstantial?


TS stop asking for advice in /k. Please go seek a professional. People here all giving wrong advice.
Stop the kiam siap attitude please, all want save money simple come out with own conclusion cause
wanna avoid seeing a professional?

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police. they don't give a damn.
pity for your situation. sad.gif
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If I lie to you and convince you to sign document give me all your property, cannot do anything although I lie to you?
Please la don't be dumb.
Lol where the fook u learn all this, why wanna freeze the assets? please dont give wrong advice.
and he already said the brother 'conned' there's no willfully in that.
Dont give wrong advice please. If neighbor knows he is of sound mind, that is evidence admissible.
1 more stupidpucuk. LOL not a strong evidence because it is 'circumstantial' go jump down a bridge please. In a crime scene, you found a guy holding a knife with his hands stained with blood and you see another dead guy with stab wounds, you would come to the conclusion that the guy holding the knife is the killer. is that not circumstantial?
TS stop asking for advice in /k. Please go seek a professional. People here all giving wrong advice.
Stop the kiam siap attitude please, all want save money simple come out with own conclusion cause
wanna avoid seeing a professional?
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I'm curious r u a smart person that no 1 con u before? please la, if u in my parent shoe, do u expect ur son who u have been taking care for 30+ yr will do treat u like this? although u know ur son change the house to his name, it is no harm if u still can live in the house, DO U EXPECT UR SON CHASE U OUT OF THE UR HOUSE? You are not born in this kind of family dun simply say "Please la don't be dumb."

I already mentioned in the early post that, I will report police and discuss with my father abut announcing in newspaper. No offense, just I dun think u understand my family situation, normally whatever u read here only happening in the drama, but it is true now, in the beginning I oso cant believe tat animal will do such thing.

U do mentioned that I'm bias, yes i do, i tell u I DUN LIKE TAT ANIMAL right after I came out to work as he disgrace the family. He gain no respect from me, this is the main reason y we always quarrels. He is very pissed because I look down on him.
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Hi TS,

If u don mind u can look for Michael Chong frm MCA. He might able to help u and are ur father is those educated ppl? Sorry for saying this. Bcoz according to Malaysia certain law if u are not understanding the legal document/agreenent or u don't understand wat u sign.. The document can be useless.. But I am not sure how it can work legally.. U can seek frm the experience lawyer fren or frm Michael Chong. hopes this cn help u.. All the best
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QUOTE(MissCollagen @ Jan 12 2012, 10:17 AM)
Hi TS,

If u don mind u can look for Michael Chong frm MCA. He might able to help u and are ur father is those educated ppl? Sorry for saying this. Bcoz according to Malaysia certain law if u are not understanding the legal document/agreenent or u don't understand wat u sign.. The document can be useless.. But I am not sure how it can work legally.. U can seek frm the experience lawyer fren or frm Michael Chong. hopes this cn help u.. All the best
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This~ our law is not easy to let the scammer go~ even the document has been signed, if the signer knows nothing abt it, still can fight in the court~
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Sorry to hear abt your problem brother. Perhaps get some legal advise then if possible lodge a police report abt it. Worse come to worse, approach MCA or DAP to ask for some advise(mostly legal i suspect) over your issue.

In future, just avoid meeting him altogether to prevent problem. Change your cellphone/contacts/email etc. My family had a relative which back-stabbed us before in a business. Though we won in the court case, we never even spoke since after that.
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I think TS already said multiple times he doesn't really care about the money.
He just wanna disowned his brother and live his life without him any more.

As said by other before, kinda worried when he finished all the money he will
come crawling back to you mom and ask for more money.

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wow, i didn't realize that there are such people in the world, chasing out own siblings and parents out of the house.

god damn, karma will strike him one day.
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QUOTE(MissCollagen @ Jan 12 2012, 10:17 AM)
Hi TS,

If u don mind u can look for Michael Chong frm MCA. He might able to help u and are ur father is those educated ppl? Sorry for saying this. Bcoz according to Malaysia certain law if u are not understanding the legal document/agreenent or u don't understand wat u sign.. The document can be useless.. But I am not sure how it can work legally.. U can seek frm the experience lawyer fren or frm Michael Chong. hopes this cn help u.. All the best
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Actually my wife auntie work in MCA, her auntie will discuss with Michael Chong today. Now my relatives are divided into 2 group. Group A ask me goto report police, another group say dun report police 1st, if i report now, police will look for tat animal, tat animal will come to kaciao me.

Actually I bet my mum know what it stated in the document when she signed those documents, just she tot tat animal is a person who can take care of the rest of the family members. sigh~ this is what happening now. I dun want to force my parent go on court to get back the house, i just want to have my own life.


QUOTE(dfcloud @ Jan 12 2012, 10:28 AM)
I think TS already said multiple times he doesn't really care about the money.
He just wanna disowned his brother and live his life without him any more.

As said by other before, kinda worried when he finished all the money he will
come crawling back to you mom and ask for more money.
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You know me well, yes, i dun really care about the house and money conned, just i want to disowned him, in future anything please dun again use dirty trick to kaciao me. I tot my mother that "now you left nothing in malaysia, so please dun come back, atleast work for few yrs keep some money for urself. And PLEASE!!!! stop answering tat animal call, u got nothing left for him, the next time he beg help from u, it is the time he want ur LIFE!!!".
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QUOTE(lucifer401 @ Jan 12 2012, 02:30 AM)
If I lie to you and convince you to sign document give me all your property, cannot do anything although I lie to you?
Please la don't be dumb.
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Yep , seriously , you cant do anythings , is u personal willing to sign the document and pass the asset to others , nobody force TS father . I only can say the way the animal "convince" is smart and pro enough .

etc : today u ask ur dad to sign selling agreement for a property & let u get the money to do business , ur business fail afterwards and cant repay back to ur father . So do you think ur father can sue u and win back his own money by at court ? There's a big NO .

Both party willing to sign the agreement under observer .
& i believe TS parent didnt do any agreement between he and the animal .

Please do read some books about law before you denied other's people advice here . smile.gif
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I think you should disown your mother too. She's a dumb and favoritism hoe.

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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 12 2012, 11:04 AM)
Actually my wife auntie work in MCA, her auntie will discuss with Michael Chong today. Now my relatives are divided into 2 group. Group A ask me goto report police, another group say dun report police 1st, if i report now, police will look for tat animal, tat animal will come to kaciao me.
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both group also got a good point.
but seriously, better report just in case. if not he will probably think he can push you around cuz thought u sked.
QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 12 2012, 11:04 AM)
You know me well, yes, i dun really care about the house and money conned, just i want to disowned him, in future anything please dun again use dirty trick to kaciao me. I tot my mother that "now you left nothing in malaysia, so please dun come back, atleast work for few yrs keep some money for urself. And PLEASE!!!! stop answering tat animal call, u got nothing left for him, the next time he beg help from u, it is the time he want ur LIFE!!!".
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All the best bro. I really cant imagine if this happens to me sweat.gif

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I think you should disown your mother too. She's a dumb and favoritism hoe.
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this is most fed-up and painful to me after all these sad thing happened. I can tell u tat I dun hate my mother but I dun like my mother oso. Anyhow she still my mother, just sometime I oso pity her tat he put very high hope on tat animal now what she deserved. I believe if my mother come back, tat animal will still treat my mother very good like nothing happen be4, ask her to stay with him, but few yrs later kick her out of the house as well.

tat animal mindset is very very wrong "something i can't get? i destroy it rather than give to some others". Because of all the evil though in his mind, he scared ppl will do the same to him. his room got 3 locks!!!! locks model is like this http://gekgo.com/images/krypto-round-padlock.jpg

last time every relative came to visit my father saw tat oso laugh like hell.
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 12 2012, 11:22 AM)
this is most fed-up and painful to me after all these sad thing happened. I can tell u tat I dun hate my mother but I dun like my mother oso. Anyhow she still my mother, just sometime I oso pity her tat he put very high hope on tat animal now what she deserved. I believe if my mother come back, tat animal will still treat my mother very good like nothing happen be4, ask her to stay with him, but few yrs later kick her out of the house as well.

tat animal mindset is very very wrong "something i can't get? i destroy it rather than give to some others". Because of all the evil though in his mind, he scared ppl will do the same to him. his room got 3 locks!!!! locks model is like this http://gekgo.com/images/krypto-round-padlock.jpg

last time every relative came to visit my father saw tat oso laugh like hell.
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Your bro is spoiled by ur parent since he is still small .
Your mum is trust on him , but then how they taugh your brother is way way wrong . So that he become animal like now ...

If happen on me , just cool down right the moment , earn more money and stable my life , afterwards just revenge & teach him a lesson .
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I think revenge is very pointless at this point. Cessation of any contact of him is the best option.
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jan 12 2012, 11:28 AM)
Your bro is spoiled by ur parent since he is still small .
Your mum is trust on him , but then how they taugh your brother is way way wrong . So that he become animal like now ...

If happen on me , just cool down right the moment , earn more money and stable my life , afterwards just revenge & teach him a lesson .
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This is what im doing right now, just he chased my father and I out of the house too early, if this happen in Mar, my house should be ready and we dun have to stay at relative house like a refugee. and I'm so sakit hati, 50% of my belongs either are missing part or damaged. estimate 15k+ losses cry.gif
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QUOTE(nipaa1412 @ Jan 12 2012, 11:36 AM)
I think revenge is very pointless at this point. Cessation of any contact of him is the best option.
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Haha , yeah , actually i know revenge is really pointless ..
but seriously if happen for me , even like 5 - 10 years already i still will do revenge ,
but the way i will revenge ofcourse is legal one ( not killing or stealing )
Maybe i will ruin the animal life & dignity if i got the money power =)

i cant really swallow inside tummy and pretend like nothing happen ..


QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 12 2012, 11:37 AM)
This is what im doing right now, just he chased my father and I out of the house too early, if this happen in Mar, my house should be ready and we dun have to stay at relative house like a refugee. and I'm so sakit hati, 50% of my belongs either are missing part or damaged. estimate 15k+ losses  cry.gif
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Yeah , another important things is , u lost ur parent asset and property which u supposed to get . Ofcourse those cash money also .
Anyway cheers ts smile.gif

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How can your mother run away in such a situation that you label your brother as an Animal after doing such a disgusting thing to you and your dad?! I really pity you TS, you should get far far away from that animal just in case he threatens you again. Take care of your dad, he needs it right now.

Hope that animal will get the same treatment in future by his own children, or even be punished by god.
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ni dah tahap setan dah ni, bukan animal lagi dah
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Was there a big argument between TS and his "animal" on Sunday?

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be a good son bro...take care of u father...

its ok, jus leave dat animal...believe in karma bro smile.gif
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Was there a big argument between TS and his "animal" on Sunday?
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yes, i have a big argument with him 2 weeks ago. This was what happened, one of the main water pipe is leaking and my father inform him, and he told my father that "this is the shit made by u(including me), u guys goto settle it". Tat water pipe broken before.. so coincidence i was onleave, so my father call someone to fix it. like i said, tat 1 is main water pipe, to replace it, need to stop the water supply, and at the same time, tat animal using water in the toilet, once my father close the water supply, he ran down and scold my dad gao2 infront of the public, it is like a master scolding a dog. my father keep on apologize he keep on scolding, then i cannot tahan already, i ran down scold him gao2. I'm very sure this is the ignition. He smart enuf dun dare to argue with me infront of outsider because he know i will scold him that he con my parent money and house now still wan to act like the big boss of the house.

he brainwash all his frens that im the big villain in the house, i still rmb tat day while being chased out by him, his fren tell me"ur brother pay the house-loan, u only pay half the eletric and water bill, ur brother let u take the master room and u somemore let the dog out to bite him?". No surprise, he will brainwash his frens to the max. The house loan already paid off long time ago by my parent. I was using the master room is because he force me out of the guest room, then he use guest room for cooking and washing cloth bla bla bla(yup, cooking and washing on 2nd floor of a terrace-house). He abuse my dog twice, my dog went into "hospital" twice, i still got the x-ray of my dog bone broken. Tell me, if u hit by someone until half-death, the next time u meet him again, will u smile at him? of course i will become hostile. I asked him why abuse my dog, he said NO. i dim do so, even my neighbor come and tell me he is cold-blooded treat a small dog like tat. my dog are size of tzu zhu, do u believe such a small puppy attk u then left u no choice but to abuse it?

and about the electric & water bill every month I pay half, every month i pay rm100 for water and rm200 for electric bill. I work everyday, do u know i can consume that much of water and electric?this is already unfair to me. he waste all the water and electric and i have to cover half of it. And this is i hate the most, i complaint to my mum, she told me "nvm la, dun kira so much...".

and now he brainwash his fren twist the fact and accuse me.

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i will provide when the moment I feel comfort, i dun wan to post here, then tat animal see it will come and cari pasal again.
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What he got your parents to sign is not valid without legal counsel.

You should speak to a lawyer, he will tell you what you can do. That lawyer will become another witness, if anything happens to you.

If I were you I'd definately make a police report. But consult a lawyer first.


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If I were you, I will make a police report and hide. Don't let the animal know where you stay. If he used up money, he will find you. Maybe I watch too much drama, but base on logic, he will find you when he need money.
If possible, migrate to other state or country, but this required you to change job.
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 12 2012, 02:11 PM)
yes, i have a big argument with him 2 weeks ago. This was what happened, one of the main water pipe is leaking and my father inform him, and he told my father that "this is the shit made by u(including me), u guys goto settle it". Tat water pipe broken before.. so coincidence i was onleave, so my father call someone to fix it. like i said, tat 1 is main water pipe, to replace it, need to stop the water supply, and at the same time, tat animal using water in the toilet, once my father close the water supply, he ran down and scold my dad gao2 infront of the public, it is like a master scolding a dog. my father keep on apologize he keep on scolding, then i cannot tahan already, i ran down scold him gao2. I'm very sure this is the ignition. He smart enuf dun dare to argue with me infront of outsider because he know i will scold him that he con my parent money and house now still wan to act like the big boss of the house.

he brainwash all his frens that im the big villain in the house, i still rmb tat day while being chased out by him, his fren tell me"ur brother pay the house-loan, u only pay half the eletric and water bill, ur brother let u take the master room and u somemore let the dog out to bite him?". No surprise, he will brainwash his frens to the max. The house loan already paid off long time ago by my parent. I was using the master room is because he force me out of the guest room, then he use guest room for cooking and washing cloth bla bla bla(yup, cooking and washing on 2nd floor of a terrace-house). He abuse my dog twice, my dog went into "hospital" twice, i still got the x-ray of my dog bone broken. Tell me, if u hit by someone until half-death, the next time u meet him again, will u smile at him? of course i will become hostile. I asked him why abuse my dog, he said NO. i dim do so, even my neighbor come and tell me he is cold-blooded treat a small dog like tat. my dog are size of tzu zhu, do u believe such a small puppy attk u then left u no choice but to abuse it?

and about the electric & water bill every month I pay half, every month i pay rm100 for water and rm200 for electric bill. I work everyday, do u know i can consume that much of water and electric?this is already unfair to me. he waste all the water and electric and i have to cover half of it. And this is i hate the most, i complaint to my mum, she told me "nvm la, dun kira so much...".

and now he brainwash his fren twist the fact and accuse me.
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I feel like punching this animal.
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jan 12 2012, 11:08 AM)
Yep , seriously , you cant do anythings , is u personal willing to sign the document and pass the asset to others , nobody force TS father . I only can say the way the animal "convince" is smart and pro enough .

etc : today u ask ur dad to sign selling agreement for a property & let u get the money to do business , ur business fail afterwards and cant repay back to ur father . So do you think ur father can sue u and win back his own money by at court ? There's a big NO .

Both party willing to sign the agreement under observer .
& i believe TS parent didnt do any agreement between he and the animal .

Please do read some books about law before you denied other's people advice here .  smile.gif
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if the situation is like what you say above, then cant get back anymore.

but there's suspicious factors, why do business need to transfer land as well? unless he take it and mortgage to bank,
but the father himself can mortgage and loan to son what, dont need to transfer.

well, i've never read any shitty books about law. i read law books sick to my stomach.
and your giving wrong advice too.

stick to your day job, drink your RM7 milk teas and later complain that the cost of living is too high. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(lucifer401 @ Jan 12 2012, 07:36 PM)
if the situation is like what you say above, then cant get back anymore.

but there's suspicious factors, why do business need to transfer land as well? unless he take it and mortgage to bank,
but the father himself can mortgage and loan to son what, dont need to transfer.

well, i've never read any shitty books about law. i read law books sick to my stomach.
and your giving wrong advice too.

stick to your day job, drink your RM7 milk teas and later complain that the cost of living is too high. thumbup.gif
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That's so his brother " the animal " just wanna swallow all the asset & property from his parent .
What he gonna do with 500k asset and 400k cash , nobody know .

U try to read previous page then u will understand the story ,
Ts mum threaten his father to sign the transfer document to the animal , or else divorce with Ts father .
Anyway , property is under animal's name , sue also no use . chances to win is lesser than 20%

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Wow!
I noticed a lot of people jump to conclusions based on 1 side of the story (TS story) without listening to his "animal" brother side of the story....

Anyway, this is other people's family problem. Like they say husband/wife or family members argument, we as outsiders, should not judge or intefere....

What happens in the family stays in the family....




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Hi everyone, this is what happened. I was staying with my elder brother(I called him "animal" now) in my parent house for over 20yrs. During his age 25 until now 34, he is jobless and all the while getting money from my parent. In some point, he conned my parent to sign some legalize document to transfer all my parent assets to him which these all my parent last resource. In total 400k cash + current my parent house(500k). My mother fed-up enough and flied to US work as illegal worker again(she is age 57 now). And my parent house left me, my father and that animal stay together.

Since that animal took all the money included transferred the house to his name, he is the big boss of the house now. Inaddition lucky I bought a new house but now my house just starting renovation(no water and eletric supply), estimate will be completed during march this year. And this is what happened, on monday while I went out to work, that animal called a moving house and 3 big size guys come to my parent house, the 3 big size guys force my father sit on the chair, and he start ordering ppl to break my door and pack all my stuff not in a gentle way and throw into the lori and move it to my new house(Please! my new house is under renovation not ready for living). At 1st, I tot that animal only want to chase me out of my parent house, but a moment later, 2 more lori coming to my new house as well, all the stuffs in the lori are belong to my father!!!! that means this animal chasing my father out of his own house which my parent works so hard to paid off the loan.

Before those barbarians leave, he threaten me that if i goto "cari pasal" to my brother, he will come and find me, I felt like my life are being threatening. Now should I log a police report? What else can I do? I just a common working man in the office. I feels so helpless now, not to mention about my father, it is very humiliation that he chased out by his own son from his own house.
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Wow! I am just wondering how did you parents brought the animal up? Was he sleeping in the cage? Eat dog food? Damn..

So heartless. I think you should go and see Michael Chong. Good luck man.
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yes, i have a big argument with him 2 weeks ago...

He abuse my dog twice, my dog went into "hospital" twice, i still got the x-ray of my dog bone broken. Tell me, if u hit by someone until half-death, the next time u meet him again, will u smile at him? of course i will become hostile. I asked him why abuse my dog, he said NO. i dim do so, even my neighbor come and tell me he is cold-blooded treat a small dog like tat. my dog are size of tzu zhu, do u believe such a small puppy attk u then left u no choice but to abuse it?..

and now he brainwash his fren twist the fact and accuse me.
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I feel like punching this animal.
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The tzu zhu already got broken bones 2 times. Why you want to punch lagi?

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jan 12 2012, 07:50 PM)
Wow!
I noticed a lot of people jump to conclusions based on 1 side of the story (TS story) without listening to his "animal" brother side of the story....

Anyway, this is other people's family problem. Like they say husband/wife or family members argument, we as outsiders, should not judge or intefere....

What happens in the family stays in the family....
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huhu 34 years old still jobless, what else u wan to hear lar?
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Hi All, the story might favor to my side, I'm not asking you to trust me. Anyway, just stop the debate. I will update once any progress.
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maybe jobless : didn hold any government/ office work. theres always 2 side of story, i doubt ill want to tell u guys my bad side if im writing 1 case like this. thats why theres court and lawyers
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Nothing you can do about your father's house. But be watchful. he may after your house next.
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sorry to hear you;ve such animal brother, but unfortunately I dun think theres anything you can do. Move to a frens hse at the moment, your things can move to a room in your new hse, speed up the reno and stay with your father.

Or rent a cheap apt and stay time being
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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jan 12 2012, 07:50 PM)
Wow!
I noticed a lot of people jump to conclusions based on 1 side of the story (TS story) without listening to his "animal" brother side of the story....

Anyway, this is other people's family problem. Like they say husband/wife or family members argument, we as outsiders, should not judge or intefere....

What happens in the family stays in the family....
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If someone asks us for help, then we shouldn't turn a blind eye.

But yes you're right, it's a 1 sided story. TS is looking for advice, and a ear. We can give him as much without interfering.

If we want to take action, like find the brother or what... then naturally the first thing I'd do is, here his side of the story first.

Though from my experience, such people do exist. It is known that among us, are psychopaths. People who have no conscience, no remorse for their actions.

They can cheat, lie, con or even bully to get what they want. And most of the time, these people have honed their skills pretty well.

Their so good, that from the outside, they appear like u and me.

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have faith.. one day your brother will insaf one.. im one living example.. and living thru guilt every single day... maybe your brother will insaf later when he gets older.
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Better not get involve, family conflict does involve anyone else besides the family. Sorry that you have to see all that but thats what happen when money and power is the main interest for people living in the family. Especially families who value money and success and pride over common sense. And im pretty sure your brother was taught just that.

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"He abuse my dog twice, my dog went into "hospital" twice, i still got the x-ray of my dog bone broken."

Dont tell me this is the guy who abuse a small puppy dog in the youtube .


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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 12 2012, 02:11 PM)
yes, i have a big argument with him 2 weeks ago. This was what happened, one of the main water pipe is leaking and my father inform him, and he told my father that "this is the shit made by u(including me), u guys goto settle it". Tat water pipe broken before.. so coincidence i was onleave, so my father call someone to fix it. like i said, tat 1 is main water pipe, to replace it, need to stop the water supply, and at the same time, tat animal using water in the toilet, once my father close the water supply, he ran down and scold my dad gao2 infront of the public, it is like a master scolding a dog. my father keep on apologize he keep on scolding, then i cannot tahan already, i ran down scold him gao2. I'm very sure this is the ignition. He smart enuf dun dare to argue with me infront of outsider because he know i will scold him that he con my parent money and house now still wan to act like the big boss of the house.

he brainwash all his frens that im the big villain in the house, i still rmb tat day while being chased out by him, his fren tell me"ur brother pay the house-loan, u only pay half the eletric and water bill, ur brother let u take the master room and u somemore let the dog out to bite him?". No surprise, he will brainwash his frens to the max. The house loan already paid off long time ago by my parent. I was using the master room is because he force me out of the guest room, then he use guest room for cooking and washing cloth bla bla bla(yup, cooking and washing on 2nd floor of a terrace-house). He abuse my dog twice, my dog went into "hospital" twice, i still got the x-ray of my dog bone broken. Tell me, if u hit by someone until half-death, the next time u meet him again, will u smile at him? of course i will become hostile. I asked him why abuse my dog, he said NO. i dim do so, even my neighbor come and tell me he is cold-blooded treat a small dog like tat. my dog are size of tzu zhu, do u believe such a small puppy attk u then left u no choice but to abuse it?

and about the electric & water bill every month I pay half, every month i pay rm100 for water and rm200 for electric bill. I work everyday, do u know i can consume that much of water and electric?this is already unfair to me. he waste all the water and electric and i have to cover half of it. And this is i hate the most, i complaint to my mum, she told me "nvm la, dun kira so much...".

and now he brainwash his fren twist the fact and accuse me.
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 12 2012, 02:31 PM)
i will provide when the moment I feel comfort, i dun wan to post here, then tat animal see it will come and cari pasal again.
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QUOTE(aarondotcom @ Jan 13 2012, 10:57 AM)
Hi All, the story might favor to my side, I'm not asking you to trust me. Anyway, just stop the debate. I will update once any progress.
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sad to hear about your family's problem with this animal elder brother.
hope you settle the problems soon yar.

hows your preparation for chinese new year by the way?
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Better not get involve, family conflict does involve anyone else besides the family. Sorry that you have to see all that but thats what happen when money and power is the main interest for people living in the family. Especially  families who value money and success and pride over common sense. And im pretty sure your brother was taught just that.
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We shouldn't think that way. It's because of this that, many cases of child abuse, or spouse abuse goes un reported.

Whether or not we have the right to interfere, should be based on a case to case basis. Whether "possible abuse" out weighs privacy.

If the guy is really an animal, and the victimized brother wants our opinion, why do we care about the animal's sense of privacy?

Of course, this doesn't warrant, a posse though.

We try to help without unfairly misjudging one side, by advising to talk to a lawyer. It's up to the lawyer to find out the truth.
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no drill? gangster? house? animal? father?
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wadafuk is wrong with ppl? Hide here hide there hide for the rest of your life!?

TS already consider letting go his parent's house, doesnt mean he needs to sell HIS OWN HOUSE to avoid confrontation.

TS, stay in your house. It's legally yours.
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If I were you, I will  make a police report and hide. Don't let the animal know where you stay. If he used up money, he will find you. Maybe I watch too much drama, but base on logic, he will find you when he need money.
If possible, migrate to other state or country, but this required you to change job.
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i think better you rent a place to stay while waitg for the renovation to complete. once its done, call ur mom to cme back home again. start a new life wthout an animal in the house. if the animal barks again, tell us.

all K's is ready to go down and "feed" the animal.
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make police report..thats the safer solution
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TS, go to michael chong, consult him, then also make a polis report. After that if possible get some press coverage to disown him. However, if your parents refuse to disown him, then I say you are in deep shit. Lots of stuff he can still do to destroy your future.

Honestly, i thought parents like yours (esp your mom) existed only in tv dramas. Didn't know that they could go to such lengths for useless children like this
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Jan 13 2012, 09:56 PM)
TS, go to michael chong, consult him, then also make a polis report. After that if possible get some press coverage to disown him. However, if your parents refuse to disown him, then I say you are in deep shit. Lots of stuff he can still do to destroy your future.

Honestly, i thought parents like yours (esp your mom) existed only in tv dramas. Didn't know that they could go to such lengths for useless children like this
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Even if give birth to a piece of ayam percik, muruku or char siew bao; a mother will still love her own flesh & blood.

Let's not blame the mother. She work very hard overseas for her family and she is alone there. She is a great person, with some minor faults. Respect her for her sacrifices. notworthy.gif

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go c4 only,sent hantu raya to his house.
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QUOTE(TheDoer @ Jan 13 2012, 04:47 PM)

If the guy is really an animal, and the victimized brother wants our opinion,  why do we care about the animal's sense of privacy?

Of course, this doesn't warrant, a possei though.
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Are you saying that the brother is a girl?
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Hi All, discussed with my wife and other relatives, we decide to remain silent for the meanwhile. Any further disturban will goto micheal chong and make it big.

Just to let you guys know how my house look like after all my stuffs FORCE moved in my new house tat day. It is like an garbage site. my friend got took few photos and post on his wall.

my fren fb: www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1321817767


QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Jan 13 2012, 04:16 PM)
sad to hear about your family's problem with this animal elder brother.
hope you settle the problems soon yar.

hows your preparation for chinese new year by the way?
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my CNY preparation? be4 this incident, I order hampers and biscuits all have to cancel and return it due to lack of cash flow now.
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unfortunately cannot see the pic on ur friend fb wall. maybe you can post here?
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Find the MCA datuk....feel sorry for u bro...all the best in the future...whats doesn't kill u only makes u stronger
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i copied from his fb.

All my father stuffs+ furniture
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all these plastic bags contains my stuffs, all barely function and malfunction stuffs. Need me to take 2 days off to clean it up.
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report police lor...
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never thought this such thing happening in malaysia.

Our asian culture is more respectful and obedient to our parent .


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ts if you dont mind me asking , how did your parents managed to raise a son like your brother ? is he the most pampered in the house ???

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