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post Jan 11 2012, 04:24 PM, updated 14y ago

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Hi everyone, this is what happened. I was staying with my elder brother(I called him "animal" now) in my parent house for over 20yrs. During his age 25 until now 34, he is jobless and all the while getting money from my parent. In some point, he conned my parent to sign some legalize document to transfer all my parent assets to him which these all my parent last resource. In total 400k cash + current my parent house(500k). My mother fed-up enough and flied to US work as illegal worker again(she is age 57 now). And my parent house left me, my father and that animal stay together.

Since that animal took all the money included transferred the house to his name, he is the big boss of the house now. Inaddition lucky I bought a new house but now my house just starting renovation(no water and eletric supply), estimate will be completed during march this year. And this is what happened, on monday while I went out to work, that animal called a moving house and 3 big size guys come to my parent house, the 3 big size guys force my father sit on the chair, and he start ordering ppl to break my door and pack all my stuff not in a gentle way and throw into the lori and move it to my new house(Please! my new house is under renovation not ready for living). At 1st, I tot that animal only want to chase me out of my parent house, but a moment later, 2 more lori coming to my new house as well, all the stuffs in the lori are belong to my father!!!! that means this animal chasing my father out of his own house which my parent works so hard to paid off the loan.

Before those barbarians leave, he threaten me that if i goto "cari pasal" to my brother, he will come and find me, I felt like my life are being threatening. Now should I log a police report? What else can I do? I just a common working man in the office. I feels so helpless now, not to mention about my father, it is very humiliation that he chased out by his own son from his own house.

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post Jan 11 2012, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(firdaus87 @ Jan 11 2012, 04:31 PM)
I am speechless. I m praying so that animal will be punished. I feel so sakit hati reading ur post.
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Thanks for your concern. Now I just want to start my new life but I just want to make sure that animal wont come and kaciao me again.
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(b16a @ Jan 11 2012, 04:33 PM)
report to the police. emphasize on he is threathing ur parent.
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I'm thinking of report to police incase anything happen to me, he is the main suspicious. But really police will layan me? Like some of my friends say, police dun care about family conflict.


QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Jan 11 2012, 04:35 PM)
Hi Bro,

Legally there is nothing that you can do if the house is under his name. Nevertheless, you can somewhat delay his actions by making a police report.

To face this kinds of cheaters are a bit hard. My suggestion is to try to find another place to stay instead.

Perhaps anyone from a lawyer firm can assist.
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Yup, legally i cant do anything, now im staying in my relative house for time being until my new house is renovated. That animal is a sweet talker to my mum because while he is kid, my mother really sayang him, brought a honda accord for him drive to college, and my parent driving sunny 130Y.
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:45 PM

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thank you for all the feedback. I think I will log a police report. For those tot who tot this is fake story, so be it.
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Szzz @ Jan 11 2012, 04:46 PM)
Just report police..incase anything happens..better be safe than sorry...

Legally, u actually can do something about it. Like others said, u can dispute the transfer. If your parents are the one paying for the house, even easier. Consult your lawyer about this.
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I know if my parent want, they can get back the house through court case. However, my mother still protecting him. He make a good excuse to my mum that his business failed, and now the ppl can and collect the house. And my mother... i think she still trust him. All my relatives are pissed but cannot do anything. This guys are ruining my life for more than ten years, i just want to start a new life.
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(jonn zee @ Jan 11 2012, 04:53 PM)
1 veli important Q from me, where's the [SERIOUS] tag?
at least thts what my father believed in... luckily all of us go to university. so by 17 all are out.
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er.. sorry, i dont quite understand your question. what [SERIOUS] tag you are referring to ?
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(jonn zee @ Jan 11 2012, 04:57 PM)
serious tag, so tht ppl wont troll.

btw r u serious? this is happening to u & ur dad?
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oh ic, ok, i try to change it. and yes it is, just 2days ago(monday).
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post Jan 11 2012, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Jan 11 2012, 05:03 PM)
tell ur mom edy or not?
be sure to talk things thru with ur dad.
he must be very2 sad.
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My father called my mother after he got back the cellphone from the 3 big size guy. Later on when I try to call my mum, she dont dare to pick up my phone because she sacred i scold her. By my intention was want to know what happening, that animal call someone back without sign, i just wan to make sure he izzit want to chase me out, if yes, give me a week of notif, i willing to move out, atleast all my stuffs are in good conditions now.


I admit I scold my parent last time when i know that their 400k have been transfer to tat animal account. And my mother told me "he wont like this 1 la, he is ur brother, our son, just leave him be la, he need this money to do business". my eye was rolling big enuf. For that moment I already start looking for a new house.
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post Jan 11 2012, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Jan 11 2012, 05:14 PM)
1st bold: i dont quite get you
2nd: this is the fucuking good decision by you. very lucky if not i cant imagine what will happen
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I expected tat animal will chase me out, but i tot he will come to my face and say "i want you out of my house". but he didn't he ask ppl come home and broke my room door and use the big black rubbish bags to throw all my stuffs in and move into lori. If he notif me, I will can someone back to move my thing, at least i pack my stuffs in a gentle way. The 3 big size man come in press my on the chair and took his cellphone, so that my dad cannot call me immediately, and tat animal and the moving house can take their time to break my room door and pack the things. 2hours later, he give back the phone to my dad, and my dad calling me at 12pm. I was surprised and duno what is going on, so I call my mum, my mum dun dare to pick up my call. When the moment I reach my parent house, all the belonging already on the way to my new house, and i saw tat animal, i ask him atleast u tell me ur intention of doing so, he pretend like duno me at all.


To clear your curiosity, right from my age 20+, I always quarrel with tat animal because whatever he doing is disgracing the family. And from that time onward, I called my parent in US(my parent started work in US when I was 20, and came back 2yr ago because i use my marry as an excuse to force them back, they are 50+, house loan was pay off, why still want to work in US? you got 400K in hand after all, start some small business and enjoy ur life) from time to time warn them, not to let tat animal con him, but still my parent fall into his trap reason being my mum very sayang him and he is a sweeter talking to my mum. Due to I already quarrel with him, i bet he was thinking about chase me out, well now he did it.
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post Jan 11 2012, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(leoyew @ Jan 11 2012, 05:25 PM)
u did 2 mistake!

1st you shouldn't let this animal know where is your house!
but my mum know, she told tat animal (my mum think brother mah, nvm 1)

2nd if you know this animal existed you should advise your mother to add your name into her asset!
when I aware my parent 400k already conned , the house already transferred to tat animal name. he sent a document to my parent in US ask them to sign.
(this part onward, i not sure this is true or not,  all i heard from my father only)
my father told me at 1st he not willing to sign because some colleagues in US already warn him how serious this is, and my mother want to divorce with my dad =_= if he dun sign.(kns, if this is true, i hate my mum very very much to be frank).

now you only got 3 choice
1. ask people kao tim him XD

2. sold your house & move to other place but basically this method won't solve the problem in long term & cause u lost a lot money!

3. report police but i believe this method useless
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post Jan 11 2012, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Jan 11 2012, 05:42 PM)
just forget about the house, it never been yours, it belongs to your parent and he cheated your parent's house, its your parent's problem, even you fight it back to your parents, what others will think, now he is the bad guy, and when u win, u are the bad guy, if u are capable, why want to fight for something that never yours ?
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Hi, I never mentioned about get back the house, I was asking should i report to police. One way or the other, my parent can't get back the house, like i said --- MY MUM SAYANG HIM SO MUCH. He is marry and got 1 children now, are you willing to fight to the court take back everything from your son? He got children now? He will say my children will not survive if i dim get tat house and money. (i'm sick of hearing this excuse from tat animal again and again)
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post Jan 11 2012, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(navilink @ Jan 11 2012, 05:47 PM)
TS, i feel ur man.. i had an elder brother who is jobless and take money from parent..
but luckily not as 'smart' and cunning as ur brother..
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I admit this animal is smart due to he got plenty of time to plan his conspiracy, now he win. Chinese ppl always say "no matter how fierce the mother tiger are, it won't eat it own children" and this somemore geng, it is the children eat the mother tiger. sigh~~~
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post Jan 11 2012, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jan 11 2012, 05:51 PM)
Agree.

Since your father is now staying with you, cut off all ties with your brother.

U say he wont last long with any assets, just let him drown in his own problem.
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I'm thinking to public to newspaper announces to the public that we have no more connection with him

QUOTE(dfcloud @ Jan 11 2012, 05:51 PM)
wait, so even after marry also ur parent support him money and all?
got kids also doh.gif
manusia gagal la ur brother
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my mum support him. my father is just a puppet to my mum, he is a peaceful person.


QUOTE(leoyew @ Jan 11 2012, 05:52 PM)
the main issue is someday if this animal finish all of his money!

will him come to your house and kacao you?

or hurt you?
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yes, this is what im worry about, that y i asked should i report police. I will lodge a police case.
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post Jan 11 2012, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jan 11 2012, 06:37 PM)
i got ask
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Sorry, I don't realise u asked me. Ok, I need 2 find the pic out.
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post Jan 11 2012, 10:36 PM

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i will update here if any progress, i still want to discuss with my father where want to announce in the newspaper or not. Once i do so, there is no turning back, and i not sure my mother can take it or not.

Let me explain more about this animal so that you guys can know more about him. For primary & 2ndary school my parent sent him to an international school, every semester have to pay around rm7k+. My mother tried to give him the best, so every semester my mother borrow money from relative one by one just to paid his school fees. At that time I still young, I duno so much about this, but one of my auntie told me that, tat animal ask my mum to park her car far away for school compound because he dun wan other classmates saw his parent car are actually some cheap car.

during college, my mother sent him to Taylor, then swift to INTI and lastly to Metropolitan, I cant tell much because at that time I oso duno so much about him, as I mentioned in the early post, my mother bought a honda accord for him drive to college, that y a midget looks like him can get chics in college. after 3 or 4 yrs of college life, i duno he completed his course or not. The only thing I knew is when I start my college life he already start work as c.card promoter.

once i start my college life, my parent flied to US cari emas because of wanted to pay off all the debts borrowed from relatives and pay house loan + my college fees.

1 day when he is driving, he sudden told me that "you see! all other parent give something to their son(he was referring to money), and what our parent left for us"? I was stunned the moment when i heard that but i keep quiet.

when he was around 25yrs old, he started his jobless life, but i heard from relatives that my mother send him money every month that why he can survive without working.

Around his 30, he demand a lum sum of money 30k from my mother because he tried to start a small business to earn income, that is a good start. than 3 months later, game over, 30K went into drain. Because of this so called small business causing the electric bill spike up to rm1k+, and he dare to bring the bill to my auntie ask her to pay, my auntie after that call me to her house and tell me, "y the electric bill so expensive? i wont pay for this.". At tat time i already work as a fresh graduate newbie in IT field, i was getting 1.7k at tat moment. after deduce from this electric bill + car loan, my remaining cash left only rm200-300. Thanks to my gf(my wife now) who suppose me. I bet tat animal until now oso havent notice that I'm the 1 who makan kucing mati for tat electric bill.

over here, let me explain abit about my grandpa, my grandpa was a wisdom-man, during 50s or 60s, he work hard and save alot money that starting invest alot properties in KL near bukt bintang. So before my grandpa pass away, he gave 1 of the propety to my parent which worth rm800k but 50% shares gave to my grandpa partner. So this property initially just rent to some foreign workers, every month rental fees should be few thousands. So since my parent was working in US, my mother give him authority to collect rental fees.

This is where the nightmare start, he getting the rental money and my mother send money from US to him at the same time, wow freaking wealthy!!! And I still work like a cow. So 2yrs ago, he mail a set of documents to my parent in US, telling them, now got buyer want that rm800k building, can't waiting anymore, you sign the attorney document and i will handle the rest. So my parent sign it(actually my father not willing to sign, but my mother use "divorce" to force him)

So I bet you guys already know what happen next, tat animal sold the building, give 50% share back to another owner, then keep this money secretly, until my parent came back, and 1 day bring a buyer to see the building then they only realized this animal sold the building and nvr inform them.

So my mother ask him why, his excuses are "aaron(me) got degree cert, he can cari makan, i got nothing, of course i take all the money". hahaha, sound so fake right? yes, this happened to my parent. So the next statement he told my parent is "i oso transfer the house to my name ald, aaron(me) can cari makan, he can buy house out there" =.=

my mother fed-up flied back to US and try to escape from reality, but too bad, 2 yrs later which is last monday, the most entertainment part happen, tat animal chase my father and I out of the house and use gangster to threaten me.

Sorry for my bad English, and yes this is real, so moral of the story, keep the money for urself even your children cannot be trust.

Some of you must be curious that y my mother SAYANG him so much? This was what happened, my mother like to gamble during her young age, when tat animal born, my mother let him pick 4digit number for kuda, so dang dang 1st prize!!!! and again 2nd prize.

when i was born, i didnt bring any "lucky" to her, so tat the reason she like tat animal more than me.
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post Jan 11 2012, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Jan 11 2012, 10:44 PM)
have thou spoken to a lawyer yet?
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My intention now is how to protect my family, not to fight back the house. This will not happen, if can 2yr ago, all my relative already successful convinced my mother to take action.
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post Jan 11 2012, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(yamahahai @ Jan 11 2012, 10:51 PM)
wow, u could sell this script to TVB and make some money!
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The story is better than tvb right? Yes it is. It more geng than 溏心风暴。
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post Jan 11 2012, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(MikeLeo @ Jan 11 2012, 10:57 PM)
If you mum can't take it, will she do anything stupid?? since she love the animal so much, better  think about it, or you will blame yourself forever.
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Tat y I have to discuss with my dad 1st. If my dad say no then I won't announce to newspaper. I only can see him this weekend, after chased out by tat animal I staying in 1 relative house and my father stay at another relative house.
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post Jan 12 2012, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(lucifer401 @ Jan 12 2012, 02:30 AM)
If I lie to you and convince you to sign document give me all your property, cannot do anything although I lie to you?
Please la don't be dumb.
Lol where the fook u learn all this, why wanna freeze the assets? please dont give wrong advice.
and he already said the brother 'conned' there's no willfully in that.
Dont give wrong advice please. If neighbor knows he is of sound mind, that is evidence admissible.
1 more stupidpucuk. LOL not a strong evidence because it is 'circumstantial' go jump down a bridge please. In a crime scene, you found a guy holding a knife with his hands stained with blood and you see another dead guy with stab wounds, you would come to the conclusion that the guy holding the knife is the killer. is that not circumstantial?
TS stop asking for advice in /k. Please go seek a professional. People here all giving wrong advice.
Stop the kiam siap attitude please, all want save money simple come out with own conclusion cause
wanna avoid seeing a professional?
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I'm curious r u a smart person that no 1 con u before? please la, if u in my parent shoe, do u expect ur son who u have been taking care for 30+ yr will do treat u like this? although u know ur son change the house to his name, it is no harm if u still can live in the house, DO U EXPECT UR SON CHASE U OUT OF THE UR HOUSE? You are not born in this kind of family dun simply say "Please la don't be dumb."

I already mentioned in the early post that, I will report police and discuss with my father abut announcing in newspaper. No offense, just I dun think u understand my family situation, normally whatever u read here only happening in the drama, but it is true now, in the beginning I oso cant believe tat animal will do such thing.

U do mentioned that I'm bias, yes i do, i tell u I DUN LIKE TAT ANIMAL right after I came out to work as he disgrace the family. He gain no respect from me, this is the main reason y we always quarrels. He is very pissed because I look down on him.
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QUOTE(MissCollagen @ Jan 12 2012, 10:17 AM)
Hi TS,

If u don mind u can look for Michael Chong frm MCA. He might able to help u and are ur father is those educated ppl? Sorry for saying this. Bcoz according to Malaysia certain law if u are not understanding the legal document/agreenent or u don't understand wat u sign.. The document can be useless.. But I am not sure how it can work legally.. U can seek frm the experience lawyer fren or frm Michael Chong. hopes this cn help u.. All the best
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Actually my wife auntie work in MCA, her auntie will discuss with Michael Chong today. Now my relatives are divided into 2 group. Group A ask me goto report police, another group say dun report police 1st, if i report now, police will look for tat animal, tat animal will come to kaciao me.

Actually I bet my mum know what it stated in the document when she signed those documents, just she tot tat animal is a person who can take care of the rest of the family members. sigh~ this is what happening now. I dun want to force my parent go on court to get back the house, i just want to have my own life.


QUOTE(dfcloud @ Jan 12 2012, 10:28 AM)
I think TS already said multiple times he doesn't really care about the money.
He just wanna disowned his brother and live his life without him any more.

As said by other before, kinda worried when he finished all the money he will
come crawling back to you mom and ask for more money.
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You know me well, yes, i dun really care about the house and money conned, just i want to disowned him, in future anything please dun again use dirty trick to kaciao me. I tot my mother that "now you left nothing in malaysia, so please dun come back, atleast work for few yrs keep some money for urself. And PLEASE!!!! stop answering tat animal call, u got nothing left for him, the next time he beg help from u, it is the time he want ur LIFE!!!".

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