Enlighten me. What's the problem with GFWL? :|
Dark Souls on PC, You want this don't you?
Dark Souls on PC, You want this don't you?
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Apr 12 2012, 09:05 AM
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Enlighten me. What's the problem with GFWL? :|
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Apr 12 2012, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(Loto @ Mar 30 2012, 06:42 PM) Signed the petition, probably gonna sign the other one, and bought the 360 version from a frustrated friend in a raw deal (he sold it to me for RM20 saja! muahahahaha!) and still waiting for it. Where's the port, Bamco?! played blade of darkness before... awesome game, scary, gory...Also, this needs to be in HD |
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Apr 12 2012, 10:18 AM
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Apr 12 2012, 10:43 AM
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Guys... Dark Souls needs to be part of GFWL to increase the difficulty of the game
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Apr 12 2012, 10:46 AM
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Dont think i want to get this game on Day 1. Do not want to be frustrated by GFWL again.
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Apr 12 2012, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(hahli9 @ Apr 12 2012, 09:05 AM) Problem 1: Our region not supported by GFWLProblem 2: You can lose your safe files just like that Problem 3: You can get dropped out suddenly from a ongoing multiplayer game Problem 4: The GUI sucks (for me at least) Problem 5: There could be more problems Sure there are some workarounds, some users not experiencing these but i personally had a few problems with it so....yea it sucks |
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Apr 12 2012, 04:56 PM
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"Hurf Durf pirates stealing our gaems! Let's use worst possible DRM to counter them! Hurf Durf"
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Apr 12 2012, 07:25 PM
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Apr 12 2012, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(noobfc @ Apr 12 2012, 03:53 PM) Problem 1: Our region not supported by GFWL Sounds like a perfect fit for this game. I'm on! Masochism here I come.Problem 2: You can lose your safe files just like that Problem 3: You can get dropped out suddenly from a ongoing multiplayer game Problem 4: The GUI sucks (for me at least) Problem 5: There could be more problems Sure there are some workarounds, some users not experiencing these but i personally had a few problems with it so....yea it sucks |
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Apr 12 2012, 09:18 PM
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Apr 13 2012, 02:06 AM
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Guys...pls sign this petition for the sake of our sanity.
QUOTE GFWL is unpopular, difficult to use, inconvenient, has terrible online support (a key feature in Dark Souls), and is downright unpleasant. After anxiously awaiting a PC release for this fantastic game it feels like a real slap in the face hearing Dark Souls will use Games for Windows Live. We recommend Valve's Steamworks in place, as this DRM is much easier to use, less intrusive, more reliable, and more accepted among PC gamers. Please reconsider the use of GFWL, or offer the game on both services. Thank you for taking the effort to port this game, but for a lot of customers it's Steam or no sale. https://www.change.org/petitions/namco-band...r-windows-live#To thread starter, would be good if you could put the petition on the front page. edit alamak lmbt cucuk, was posted a page back.but still, get this to the front page too. This post has been edited by nightshade_nova: Apr 13 2012, 02:11 AM |
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Apr 13 2012, 10:56 AM
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They end the petition with "Steam or no sale"? So they want to replace one platform/DRM with another to please some steam fanboys? I mean GFWL is not great for the most part but i think the game will play fine irrespectively.
The reason they're using GFWL is most likely due to the fact that it's coming out in 4 months time and they do not want to rewrite the matchmaking net code from scratch. It would be relatively easy for them to port the net code from xboxlive to GFWL. Online multiplayer in dark souls does not use your friends list or voice chat, co-op and pvp combat worked really well on xboxlive even when i knew that most of the people i was playing with and against were not local. However, what's worrying is anti-cheat protection (or the lack of) in GFWL particularly save game hacking. |
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Apr 13 2012, 11:46 AM
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Apr 13 2012, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(hahli9 @ Apr 12 2012, 09:05 AM) QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Apr 13 2012, 10:56 AM) They end the petition with "Steam or no sale"? So they want to replace one platform/DRM with another to please some steam fanboys? I mean GFWL is not great for the most part but i think the game will play fine irrespectively. Try buying Batman AC from Malaysia online, and let me know what you think of the problem The reason they're using GFWL is most likely due to the fact that it's coming out in 4 months time and they do not want to rewrite the matchmaking net code from scratch. It would be relatively easy for them to port the net code from xboxlive to GFWL. Online multiplayer in dark souls does not use your friends list or voice chat, co-op and pvp combat worked really well on xboxlive even when i knew that most of the people i was playing with and against were not local. However, what's worrying is anti-cheat protection (or the lack of) in GFWL particularly save game hacking. Hint: It uses GFWL. Not supported in Malaysia This post has been edited by Hornet: Apr 13 2012, 12:22 PM |
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Apr 13 2012, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Apr 13 2012, 12:21 PM) Try buying Batman AC from Malaysia online, and let me know what you think of the problem Well it's not available on steam. but what about impulsedriven http://www.impulsedriven.com/batmanac or gamersgate http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-BMAC/batman-arkham-city ? Wouldn't that be steam's fault that it's not available here?Hint: It uses GFWL. Not supported in Malaysia Having said that, I've not actually tried buying from them, all i know is they don't give me the "sorry not available in your area" error. I do actually emphatise, not having malaysia as an actual supported region really does suck, as a gamer, a quick google will tell you how to bypass that. I'm fine with people complaining about GFWL, a lot of the times it's justified, the end-user experience is rubbish. But saying "I want steam or no buy" instead is just fanboyism. |
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Apr 13 2012, 12:48 PM
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I'm waiting for confirmation from NB before signing anything. The petition is poorly worded though, yes (Big Mclargehuge? Seriously?).
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Apr 13 2012, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Apr 13 2012, 12:39 PM) Well it's not available on steam. but what about impulsedriven http://www.impulsedriven.com/batmanac or gamersgate http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-BMAC/batman-arkham-city ? Wouldn't that be steam's fault that it's not available here? Its it wrong for me to want to keep all my games under the same library for the purpose of convenience? Having said that, I've not actually tried buying from them, all i know is they don't give me the "sorry not available in your area" error. I do actually emphatise, not having malaysia as an actual supported region really does suck, as a gamer, a quick google will tell you how to bypass that. I'm fine with people complaining about GFWL, a lot of the times it's justified, the end-user experience is rubbish. But saying "I want steam or no buy" instead is just fanboyism. Regardless, the reason why its not on Steam is because GFWL is not available here. If you're in Singapore, you'll be able to see it. BTW, didn't some users had issues activating their Batman AC cd key? The fact is, GFWL does NOT support Malaysia. Register an account there and you won't even have the option for that. There's absolutely no reason for this. If you want to push that piece of crap, at least make it available worldwide. This post has been edited by Hornet: Apr 13 2012, 02:00 PM |
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Apr 13 2012, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Apr 13 2012, 01:59 PM) Its it wrong for me to want to keep all my games under the same library for the purpose of convenience? I'm not sure what your point is since I'm pretty much in agreement with you here in regards to regional restrictions sucking. Whether it's steam, origin or gfwl, any form of regional restriction is bad for consumer. If you refuse to play a game because it's not on steam, the only person losing out is you. Regardless, the reason why its not on Steam is because GFWL is not available here. If you're in Singapore, you'll be able to see it. BTW, didn't some users had issues activating their Batman AC cd key? The fact is, GFWL does NOT support Malaysia. Register an account there and you won't even have the option for that. There's absolutely no reason for this. If you want to push that piece of crap, at least make it available worldwide. My main problem with the new petition is still the "steam or no sale", and since this is about choice, what about those of us who don't want to buy the game on steam? I'm not sure how consumers these days have been indoctrinated into accepting monopolies. GFWL is not great to use, i think most people are in agreement there. The game itself will be fine, if they can prevent hackers and cheats. |
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Apr 13 2012, 05:09 PM
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I think the main problem with GFWL is that Microsoft isn't really focused on this platform, so it might quietly die away someday. They are mostly devoted to supporting XBL.
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Apr 13 2012, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Apr 13 2012, 05:09 PM) I think the main problem with GFWL is that Microsoft isn't really focused on this platform, so it might quietly die away someday. They are mostly devoted to supporting XBL. That's the thing, they messed up on it in the first place so it has been dying slowly on life support for the longest time. However you're definitely right that they're focusing on xboxlive, particularly windows 8 integration.Back to the game though, I'm just going to keep harping on the fact that they need to get the anonymous matchmaking right. GFWL can definitely do this, but it would mean having to put up with all the crap that comes along with it. |
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