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Hornet
post Jan 7 2012, 04:07 PM

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post Apr 13 2012, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(hahli9 @ Apr 12 2012, 09:05 AM)
Enlighten me. What's the problem with GFWL? :|
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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Apr 13 2012, 10:56 AM)
They end the petition with "Steam or no sale"?  So they want to replace one platform/DRM with another to please some steam fanboys?  I mean GFWL is not great for the most part but i think the game will play fine irrespectively.

The reason they're using GFWL is most likely due to the fact that it's coming out in 4 months time and they do not want to rewrite the matchmaking net code from scratch.  It would be relatively easy for them to port the net code from xboxlive to GFWL.

Online multiplayer in dark souls does not use your friends list or voice chat, co-op and pvp combat worked really well on xboxlive even when i knew that most of the people i was playing with and against were not local. 

However, what's worrying is anti-cheat protection (or the lack of) in GFWL particularly save game hacking.
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Try buying Batman AC from Malaysia online, and let me know what you think of the problem smile.gif

Hint: It uses GFWL. Not supported in Malaysia

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post Apr 13 2012, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Apr 13 2012, 12:39 PM)
Well it's not available on steam.  but what about impulsedriven http://www.impulsedriven.com/batmanac or gamersgate http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-BMAC/batman-arkham-city ? Wouldn't that be steam's fault that it's not available here?

Having said that, I've not actually tried buying from them, all i know is they don't give me the "sorry not available in your area" error.  I do actually emphatise, not having malaysia as an actual supported region really does suck, as a gamer, a quick google will tell you how to bypass that. 

I'm fine with people complaining about GFWL, a lot of the times it's justified, the end-user experience is rubbish.  But saying "I want steam or no buy" instead is just fanboyism.
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Its it wrong for me to want to keep all my games under the same library for the purpose of convenience? smile.gif See its about having options that I can choose from. You may be fine getting your games from a dozen different places, but I don't like doing that, having multiple accounts here and there for a handful of games.
Regardless, the reason why its not on Steam is because GFWL is not available here. If you're in Singapore, you'll be able to see it.

BTW, didn't some users had issues activating their Batman AC cd key?

The fact is, GFWL does NOT support Malaysia. Register an account there and you won't even have the option for that. There's absolutely no reason for this. If you want to push that piece of crap, at least make it available worldwide.

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post Apr 13 2012, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Apr 13 2012, 04:51 PM)
I'm not sure what your point is since I'm pretty much in agreement with you here in regards to regional restrictions sucking.  Whether it's steam, origin or gfwl, any form of regional restriction is bad for consumer.  If you refuse to play a game because it's not on steam, the only person losing out is you. 

My main problem with the new petition is still the "steam or no sale", and since this is about choice, what about those of us who don't want to buy the game on steam?  I'm not sure how consumers these days have been indoctrinated into accepting monopolies.

GFWL is not great to use, i think most people are in agreement there.  The game itself will be fine, if they can prevent hackers and cheats.
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To be honest, I don't feel any loss not playing these games tongue.gif

I do get games outside of Steam, like Battlefield 3 on Origin or the upcoming Diablo 3. These are great games AND their own DRM isn't that much of an issue like GFWL.

Its about making potential sales to the fence sitter. Games like this one is something most of us can live without. There's only so much we can spend on video games and have the time to actually play them, the one with something to lose is these companies, not the gamers. To push something like GFWL, you've got to make sure your game is mighty good and have a large fan base like Diablo 3 or Mass Effect for example.

Otherwise, its best they ensure that their games is available through as many method as possible.

 

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