lol...how abt 2nd hand value of Mazda3?

Heh.. I also like Evo X.. should I just fark the price/bank loan and just buy it?

Maybe it's just me... but I dont liek throwing away hard earned cash

er...hyundai coupe ar?

Exactly. That summarizes why the price of Elantra matters to most people, because car prices here are simply ridiculously high so people will want to make sure they spend their hard earned money wisely.

Is this true? Cos if it is, it sure is a pretty preposterous price...

Kereta Hyundai Elantra Baru

disappointing.... but definiteily possible....... really disappointing though....

then 1.6 sure near around 100k.......

Wont la, the spec for 1.6 and 1.8 so much different. It must not more than 95k for high spec,

this one is not for sale in malaysia, it is left hand drive

that's only the imported training unit dude

I sold my last two cars and another two for my family through mudah. Direct buyers all of them. The paperwork is actually nothing much la, if you wan I have a friend who can do all the running and paperwork for less than RM500, including helping your buyer to process the bank loan. Honda Accord 2.4 iVTEC, Civic FD and two Kelisas. All so-called "hot models", still I ended between 3-7k richer. Worth it loh if you know how to play the game. Otherwise end up losing a lot of money to used car dealers. Cannot blame them la, cari makan mah.

Nowadays, used car dealers are not very interested in taking cars because they have so many unsold stocks, many prefer to do trade in with their existing stocks.

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Added on January 5, 2012, 1:59 amLet's see. Bought new at 81,800 I presume, the older 1.6 SX 4-speeder. Deduct the insurance and road tax, nett buying price around RM79k. Dunno got any discounts or not.

Anyway, the used car dealer takes it for 60k. He sells it for 66k. Buyer pays 66k plus ins+runner fees+processing fees etc, end up paying 68k++.

You don't really know the system. New cars always put in the insurance etc so buyers can get a higher loan. Used cars always take away the ins etc so the selling price seems low.

If your boss can sell direct, he only lost 13k which is just slightly higher than the "hot" cars which lose around 10k after the first year.

1 yr old cars lose the most because of the cost of borrowing. New cars have lower interest while used cars are usually 1-2% higher than new car interest. So in order to make a 1 yr old car attractive to a prospect, the difference in repayment between a new car and a 1 yr old car must be more than RM100 per month, otherwise who dafak will buy a used car? Unnerstan now?

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Added on January 5, 2012, 2:02 amNormally you can't take a straight line depreciation method cos the first year the car will lose more, then tapers off from 2nd yr onwards.

Ya, the Civic FD/FD2 and Myvi are the country's two best performing residual value cars ever! Only in Msia, mind you.

This post has been edited by gregy: Jan 5 2012, 02:02 AM

if higher why not just go for Forte... you get more features to play around and save couple of bucks

Gd explanation bro. javascript:emoticon(':thumbs:')
I experienced that to sold my car before at mudah. The work is not that difficult.
But you must have free time lah to go to bank, puspakom, JPJ and etc. But worth it...

any idea if 1.6 full spec comes with auto cruise?

I think is possible to price elantra 1.6 around 80k and 1.8 around 100k
because they change what logo from hyundai to inokom
from there how much they can save a tax
play psycho again I hope SD will read this to consider. Haha...

Why do ppl keep slamming the so called 'Malaysian Mindset'? Ask yourselves this: HOW WAS THIS MINDSET CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE?

That's an important question. Mindsets are created based on experiences. Many of you are using the current Korean makes as examples to slam those with the so called 'anti Korean' mindset. But let me tell you that it was the Koreans themselves which created this mindset by giving us crap cars in the past. Go read up about Korean cars since the 1980's and ull see all the horror stories. We are not talking about 1 or 2 cases mind you.

The Japanese built their reputation over a long period. Ask any of our older generation of elders and they will mostly say that Toyota is the brand of choice even compared to some European makes. Right from the Toyota LE days which span more than 30 years. While the Koreans were busy producing crappy models (although not all), the Japanese were busy establishing themselves in the mind and hearts of their users. Loyalty isnt created overnight.

So now that the Koreans have awakened from their slumber and realised that they need to produce better cars before they become obsolete, we are getting better products with better specs and more futuristic designs. This is a good effort but to expect that the mentality of the ppl will change overnight just because of some good designs and specs is too much to ask for. The Japs took more than 30 years to build up the reputation they currently enjoy. Do u actually expect mentality changes and loyalty swings just cuz the Koreans came out with the Forte, Sportage, Sonata, Optima, etc in the last 3 years?

It will be a slow process which the Koreans need to patiently endure and persevere. Durability is still something that people are generally pessimistic about the Korean makes. Again dont blame them. End users did not merely imagine bad quality, they experienced it themselves. Ive got a Korean make in my home and im not impressed with its build quality at all. While there may be a few cases of good experiences among older Korean makes, but the general picture isnt good at all. But once ppl have the confidence, sales will improve and with that resale values will increase.

With the Koreans picking up steam, it only means that the Japanese cannot afford to relax any more and merely bank on loyalty to boost sales. They have to come up with better designs and specs to match the Koreans. All this means we the end users will get better products and more choice.

Cheers!

Resale value is also an important factor. You can say "don't care" for now, of course as you are owning it now and enjoying the driving and you don't think about selling it or changing it. But down the road, if you want to change new car, the downpayment is really matter to us. You need to get more from your own pocket for it and usually this is the main problem to us. Actually good resale value has its reasons behind. For sure must be the car is a trusted brand and easy to trade in/out.

Anyway, i'll still get the Elantra and hoping the resale value is not that bad.... Thought of getting first batch as CBU but most likely not the case.

good one.

actually if we really wanna see the design difference between korean and japs, you can try to sit in kia forte, and then you can try maybe civic or city.

Immediately you can notice, korean is trying too hard. the interior is too busy. like clothes, you cant have too many colours on you in one time. THis is the styling difference, they saw too many nice stuff, so they wanna cramp it all in one car.

As oppose to local design, they saw all the crappy stuff, so they can only give you crappy interior. THe jap has their direction in the interior, for civic, its futuristic, so you see minimalist and futuristic design. CIty, the car is entry level, so, keep it simple and functional.

Even BMW, they want you to concentrate driving, so the interior is very bland and nothing to show off. While kia, is trying very hard to get the WOW factor from you. But no worries, its not a bad thing, they will only get better and better.

Once again, japanese is all about reliability. no one bothers to challenge them on this. And resale value is all about reliability. Who is going to buy your second hand car? rich ppl or not so rich ppl? Those not so rich ppl, what do they think about? They wanna save more money, so they are willing to pay more for cars that are reliable(that they think is reliable).

To them, even local car is reliable, simple because its everywhere, spare parts, service center, acc shop. THey feel safe by buying a car thats available everywhere. Unless you have 3 cars in your garage, otherwise, one will even worry what will happen when their ferrari fails.

And the reputation of reliable is not built over night. Korean car's 10 years warranty in US is not transferable, but its a start, to let ppl notice them. We consumer will definitely benefit from this korean vs jap car war. So now Kia is giving 5 years unlimited warranty, and VW too, to give owner a peace of mind. While jap car, no one ever question why they only give 3 years/100k. Simple, they are proven(at least public mindset is) .

Sorry tldr

But talk is cheap, action speaks louder then words. I had never bought a T or H car in my life so far. Have you?

Only the 1.8 is getting auto-cruise.