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 2012 Hyundai Elantra, Hello Impossible!

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gregy
post Jan 5 2012, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 5 2012, 03:43 PM)
No. Wrong.

Dollar to dollar... 100k SGD = 100k RM

That's the whole definition of "Dollar to Dollar".

Why are you converting?! Unless you are working in singapore and while your colleague is getting paid SGD4000, you are getting paid RM4000, then you convert.

Oh and the nice bit about COE is... your car can actually APPRECIATE in value due to the COE.... last 2 years COE went from 20k to 60k+? So your car actually appreciated in value DUE to the COE.
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Are you for real? Dollar to dollar means we don't convert. But it doesn't mean equal purchasing power. SG's purchasing power is higher than Msia as we both agree. Hence, you can do a lot more with SGD100,000 than you can with RM100,000, WITHOUT CONVERTING JACK. So someone paying SGD100,000 for an Elantra means he is paying more than someone in Msia paying RM100,000. Get it? doh.gif
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post Jan 5 2012, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Jan 5 2012, 05:38 PM)
Are you for real? Dollar to dollar means we don't convert. But it doesn't mean equal purchasing power. SG's purchasing power is higher than Msia as we both agree. Hence, you can do a lot more with SGD100,000 than you can with RM100,000, WITHOUT CONVERTING JACK. So someone paying SGD100,000 for an Elantra means he is paying more than someone in Msia paying RM100,000. Get it?  doh.gif
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O RLY?!

And you arrive at that conclusion based on dollar to dollar calculation and what benchmark again?
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post Jan 5 2012, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 5 2012, 05:41 PM)
O RLY?!

And you arrive at that conclusion based on dollar to dollar calculation and what benchmark again?
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You said it yourself, sunnyboy. A kopi-o in SG costs less than in Msia, without conversion. And I do know a McValue meal costs around SGD5-7, among other things. And here:

http://www.xpatxperience.com/makinghome/si...of_living.shtml

http://www.livinginsingapore.org/costofliving

http://www.contactsingapore.sg/interactive...ing_calculator/



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post Jan 5 2012, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Jan 5 2012, 05:51 PM)
You said it yourself, sunnyboy. A kopi-o in SG costs less than in Msia, without conversion. And I do know a McValue meal costs around SGD5-7, among other things. And here:

http://www.xpatxperience.com/makinghome/si...of_living.shtml

http://www.livinginsingapore.org/costofliving  

http://www.contactsingapore.sg/interactive...ing_calculator/
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Oh ya man! U are so right! Price of car in Singapore is indeed more expensive then Malaysia without converting!

S500L = SGD479,888
S500L = RM1,000,000

Damn.. I must have missed a zero somewhere.... whistling.gif

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 5 2012, 06:00 PM)
Oh ya man! U are so right!

Price of car in Singapore is more expensive then Malaysia without converting!

S500L = SGD479,888
S500L = RM1,000,000

Damn.. I must have missed a zero somewhere....  whistling.gif
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Now you're being silly, sunnyboy. I was talking about the Elantra all along. I don't care and have never started talking about ALL CARS in SG. Yes, luxury autos are relatively cheap to own in SG, but you must be able to reach that level to talk about it. And based on your understanding on things, I don't think you're there yet. This is an Elantra thread, unnerstan?
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post Jan 5 2012, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jan 5 2012, 01:34 PM)
so, now we know their design philosophy din think so much about after market eh?

so, 5 years later the HU spoilt....then.....( minus resale value!!! )
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I feel rather sorry, you seem to be really confused around here, so let me tell you a story.

The GPS HU you see in the picture was actually swapped out with the original radio/CD HU. It will also be the same radio/CD HU on the Elantra 1.6? There were 3 different test unit that day, 1 fitted into the car, 2 in the trunk.

Now I don't know about what's in your mind but I did mention that my friend is in the process of bringing in aftermarket HU for the Elantra. So i don't really know where you get the idea that Elantra is not aftermarket friendly, considering a lot of cars these days uses integrated design for the center fascia, hiding the DIN slots behind.

Google is your friend, just google for sonata or tucson gps and you'll find yourself spoilt with choices.

Oh btw, what happened to your' last post, no more'?smile.gif

Elantra discuss.., or correction, discussion not related to Elantra, is getting boring. they are like broken recorder playing itself over and over again yawn.gif

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post Jan 5 2012, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Jan 5 2012, 06:05 PM)
Now you're being silly, sunnyboy. I was talking about the Elantra all along. I don't care and have never started talking about ALL CARS in SG. Yes, luxury autos are relatively cheap to own in SG, but you must be able to reach that level to talk about it. And based on your understanding on things, I don't think you're there yet. This is an Elantra thread, unnerstan?
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Oh backtracking now are we? If you bother to read, you woudl have seen I mentioned COE is a FIXED cost, compared to the variable cost that is the lovely Malaysian car TAX. Sorry if you only look at ONE SINGLE car, the elantra, to form your opinion, unfortunately not everyone is liek you limited to that lovely car.

Also, I do appreciate how you bring up whether who can afford better car etc... cause this is the trend in F&F, when someone lose an argument based on fact, they will revert to "My car is more expensive then yours, my engine bigger then yours, I'm richer then you" and I can tell u if you compare that way, you will lose big time... many here will attest to that smile.gif

But, no worries, you go on living with your own beliefs its your life anyway! I'm not going to join you in this paralympic.

Cheers! biggrin.gif

ps : You can refute this and have the last word if it makes u feel better. I'm ok with it nod.gif

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post Jan 5 2012, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Jan 5 2012, 06:09 PM)
I feel rather sorry, you seem to be really confused around here, so let me tell you a story.

The GPS HU you see in the picture was actually swapped out with the original radio/CD HU. It will also be the same radio/CD HU on the Elantra 1.6? There were 3 different test unit that day, 1 fitted into the car, 2 in the trunk.

Now I don't know about what's in your mind but I did mention that my friend is in the process of bringing in aftermarket HU for the Elantra. So i don't really know where you get the idea that Elantra is not aftermarket friendly, considering a lot of cars these days uses integrated design for the center fascia, hiding the DIN slots behind.

Google is your friend, just google for sonata or tucson gps and you'll find yourself spoilt with choices.

Oh btw, what happened to your' last post, no more'?smile.gif

Elantra discuss.., or correction, discussion not related to Elantra, is getting boring. they are like broken recorder playing itself over and over again yawn.gif
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this is new thread biggrin.gif

ok la, i better dont kacau your sales thread here.

This post has been edited by turbocharged: Jan 5 2012, 06:33 PM
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post Jan 5 2012, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 5 2012, 06:12 PM)
Oh backtracking now are we? If you bother to read, you woudl have seen I mentioned COE is a FIXED cost, compared to the variable cost that is the lovely Malaysian car TAX. Sorry if you only look at ONE SINGLE car, the elantra, to form your opinion, unfortunately not everyone is liek you limited to that lovely car.

Also, I do appreciate how you bring up whether who can afford better car etc... cause this is the trend in F&F, when someone lose an argument based on fact, they will revert to "My car is more expensive then yours, my engine bigger then yours, I'm richer then you" and I can tell u if you compare that way, you will lose big time... many here will attest to that smile.gif

But, no worries, you go on living with your own beliefs its your life anyway! I'm not going to join you in this paralympic.

Cheers!  biggrin.gif

ps : You can refute this and have the last word if it makes u feel better. I'm ok with it  nod.gif
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Go back a few pages and read your own comments. I started out by saying an Elantra costs about SGD105,000 so the poster that I was replying to wouldn't feel that above RM100k was too much, i.e., in comparison, we are not the only country with high car prices.

Then you waltz in with your stupid retort saying COE this that and the other, how it was fixed la and all that BS. So what if it was fixed? Will it change the fact that someone who wants to buy a brand new Elantra in SG would have to pay SGD105k? COE is money that you have to pay anyhow. Btw how is COE fixed? It floats on an open bidding market. Msian tax rates are fixed and tiered, relative to the book price of the car.

Then you, pea brain, stupidly had to go and say that a cup of black Joe in SG is cheaper than in Msia, without conversion. Great, shoot yourself in the foot. I merely took the opportunity to use that shot foot of yours to reiterate relative purchasing power between these two countries to conclude that at current prices, all in, we will get the Elantra with less money than in SG.

So why bring in luxury car prices? So out of context. Say la paralympic next time, if I had known you were an OKU I would have spared you. Or perhaps you're just an Otak Kepala Udang who can't debate with proper facts but with mere conjecture.


P.S.- I challenge you NOT to reply as you've said. LOL...

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post Jan 5 2012, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Jan 5 2012, 06:36 PM)
Go back a few pages and read your own comments. I started out by saying an Elantra costs about SGD105,000 so the poster that I was replying to wouldn't feel that above RM100k was too much, i.e., in comparison, we are not the only country with high car prices.

Then you waltz in with your stupid retort saying COE this that and the other, how it was fixed la and all that BS. So what if it was fixed? Will it change the fact that someone who wants to buy a brand new Elantra in SG would have to pay SGD105k? COE is money you that have to pay anyhow. Btw how is COE fixed? It floats on an open bidding market. Msian tax rates are fixed and tiered, relative to the book price of the car.

Then you, pea brain, stupidly had to go and say that a cup of black Joe in SG is cheaper than in Msia, without conversion. Great, shoot yourself in the foot. I merely took the opportunity to use that shot foot of yours to reiterate relative purchasing power between these two countries to conclude that at current prices, all in, we will get the Elantra with less money than in SG.

So why bring in luxury car prices? So out of context. Say la paralympic next time, if I had known you were an OKU I would have spared you. Or perhaps you're just an Otak Kepala Udang who can't debate with proper facts but with mere conjecture.
P.S.- I challenge you NOT to reply as you've said. LOL...
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Sorry tldr

But.. congratulation.. you won the paralympic rclxms.gif
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post Jan 5 2012, 06:42 PM

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So bro fluid.... wads the likely hood of it being RM109,999?

Please tell me it's going to be cheaper than that for the 1.8...


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post Jan 5 2012, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Jan 5 2012, 06:42 PM)
So bro fluid.... wads the likely hood of it being RM109,999?

Please tell me it's going to be cheaper than that for the 1.8...
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It's close to that price, just my guess.

I wonder if SD received enough feedback to consider 1.8 Standard, from what I see, a lot of people loves the Nu 1.8, but don't want the car to be overpriced due to accessories.
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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Jan 5 2012, 08:08 PM)
It's close to that price, just my guess.

I wonder if SD received enough feedback to consider 1.8 Standard, from what I see, a lot of people loves the Nu 1.8, but don't want the car to be overpriced due to accessories.
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yeah, but anyways I sure hope they don't price themselves out of the competition. imho this is a good time for them to strike some good sales figures, pricing will really make its impact unsure.gif
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QUOTE(raptorclans @ Jan 5 2012, 08:13 PM)
yeah, but anyways I sure hope they don't price themselves out of the competition. imho this is a good time for them to strike some good sales figures, pricing will really make its impact  unsure.gif
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Overprice=Bad sales=Bad resale value hmm.gif
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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Jan 5 2012, 08:08 PM)
It's close to that price, just my guess.

I wonder if SD received enough feedback to consider 1.8 Standard, from what I see, a lot of people loves the Nu 1.8, but don't want the car to be overpriced due to accessories.
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close means more or less......? I think its a good time to leak some info.... hit while the hype still strong mah biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Jan 5 2012, 03:38 PM)
I can foresee the sales of Forte will shoot up if the new Elantra pricing is on the high side.
I for one, will seriously consider Forte 2.0 if Elantra is above 110k.As far as I know , Forte 2.0 lose out to Elantra on the following:
1) No sunroof (which is not important to me)
2) Electric seat
3) Design
4) Built in GPS
5) FC, not too sure but could be.

But on the other hand Forte wins on :
1)Airbags (6 vs 2)
2)Paddle shift
3)Cheaper
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same for me, just wait for the price, if no good, go for forte, now comes with free insurance & 2 yrs free service
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 5 2012, 06:39 PM)
Sorry tldr

But.. congratulation.. you won the paralympic  rclxms.gif
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When U dont like what others say in this forum, U just undervalue their opinion & say they won paralympic.
But true truth is U are not really understand about ur post especially about COE and Singapore policy.
COE is not fixed as it's an open tender and more variable compare to Malaysian tax.
Generally their car price higher than Malaysia except for luxury car bcoz any car above 1.6cc can apply for COE category B or open.
Mean that Elantra 1.8cc or Forte 2.0cc will get same COE like Merz S500L or a Ferrari. However still most Singaporean buy normal like us such as Civic, Altis, Vios, Accord etc rather than buy luxury car.
That's why also Hyundai Singapore decided not to bring 1.8cc Elantra coz it will sell around SD 130K-150K which will be too high based on current COE.

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sonata 2011 showroom car 115k, elantra price @110k how =="
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jan 6 2012, 08:33 AM)
When U dont like what others say in this forum, U just undervalue their opinion & say they won paralympic.
But true truth is U are not really understand about ur post especially about COE and Singapore policy.
COE is not fixed as it's an open tender and more variable compare to Malaysian tax.
Generally their car price higher than Malaysia except for luxury car bcoz any car above 1.6cc can apply for COE category B or open.
Mean that Elantra 1.8cc or Forte 2.0cc will get same COE like Merz S500L or a Ferrari. However still most Singaporean buy normal like us such as Civic, Altis, Vios, Accord etc rather than buy luxury car.
That's why also Hyundai Singapore decided not to bring 1.8cc Elantra coz it will sell around SD 130K-150K which will be too high based on current COE.
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MeToo and grey had brought good info to discussed
Its something new for me. Thanks for it and already understood.
Lets continue discuss with elantra topics.

QUOTE(mac.tay @ Jan 6 2012, 09:08 AM)
sonata 2011 showroom car 115k, elantra price @110k how =="
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That's because of long list of gadgets attached.
But I like that except this pricing news.
I hope is not true...

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QUOTE(mac.tay @ Jan 6 2012, 09:08 AM)
sonata 2011 showroom car 115k, elantra price @110k how =="
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Is it show room car or test drive car? I think if show room car then worth it

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