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 2012 Hyundai Elantra, Hello Impossible!

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post Jan 5 2012, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(jai2005 @ Jan 5 2012, 03:01 PM)
ok at least Elantra price is EQUAL to all malaysian.
Come on SD, give us a good news  brows.gif
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What? Same price meh... no 7% discoutn to special category? Like that I dun wan buy le!
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post Jan 5 2012, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 5 2012, 03:10 PM)
What? Same price meh... no 7% discoutn to special category? Like that I dun wan buy le!
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post Jan 5 2012, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jan 5 2012, 03:12 PM)
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Free test drive I sure go geh.... cheapskate ma
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post Jan 5 2012, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jan 5 2012, 02:13 PM)
er.....their house interest rate 1%
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Ya, but they are offering 10 yr loans to pay off a car. Doesn't it tell you something? At the end of the day, LPPL la. Not vastly different. Only difference is when they come over here for shopping they can spend easily cos it's cheap for them lol...
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post Jan 5 2012, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jan 5 2012, 02:47 PM)
Autobahn accident fatality rate can consider bad when compare to their neighbor highway in Netherlands, France, Switzerland, etc...

Maybe bcoz german mentality who want drive fast. That's why they can produce a lot driving champion & world class driver. hehe..
The use of the word 'bad' is wrong. Its not bad. It may be slightly higher than some european countries but the Autobahn still ranks as among the safest roads to drive in the world.

There were 2.2 road user fatalities per billion vehicle kilometers on German autobahns in 2008. Neighboring countries with available data include Belgium (4.2 in 2007), Holland (2.1 in 2009), Denmark (2.5), Austria (4.2), Switzerland (1.2), and France (1.8). Using the same statistic, 4.5 fatalities have occurred in the United States on motorways. Germany also has 6X more vehicles than Holland so you have to take that into consideration as well.

Only half of the Autobahn doesn't have speed limits. The other half has speed limits in effect.

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post Jan 5 2012, 03:17 PM

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post Jan 5 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 5 2012, 12:00 PM)
Cause u pay 10k more for Civic but your resale value is 30k more then Korean cars. Overall gain 20k.

So you need Korean cars to be EVEN cheaper to make up for the 2nd hand value loss  whistling.gif
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anyway for those who are so concerned about the resale value, i have a piece of advice, dont buy if you are so worried about the value.
if u stretched yourself to 9 yrs loan, you cant talk about resell value, probably a lol.
if you have enough bullet to change car in 2 years, you dont care about those, you only buy what you like.

korean car are cheaper but it come with more tech and gadget inside which will cost you quite a lot if you are going to install it outside.
tiny difference of resale value doesn't matter to me because I am already using those "overall gain 10k-20k" the first day when i bought my car cheaper 10k-20k.
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post Jan 5 2012, 03:33 PM

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I wish they'd reveal the price soon... I admit the price will be a deciding factor. I actually booked the Elantra as I was fed-up waiting months for my booked Ford Fiesta. So I actually hold bookings for 2 cars at the moment sad.gif
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post Jan 5 2012, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ Jan 5 2012, 03:18 PM)
anyway for those who are so concerned about the resale value, i have a piece of advice, dont buy if you are so worried about the value.
if u stretched yourself to 9 yrs loan, you cant talk about resell value, probably a lol.
if you have enough bullet to change car in 2 years, you dont care about those, you only buy what you like.korean car are cheaper but it come with more tech and gadget inside which will cost you quite a lot if you are going to install it outside.
tiny difference of resale value doesn't matter to me because I am already using those "overall gain 10k-20k" the first day when i bought my car cheaper 10k-20k.
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Bro... just because I have extra 20k in my pocket.. does that mean I have to take it out, go to the river, and throw it in? U think those rich people get rich by spending as they like without proper planing/judgement?

Anyway, buy whatever u like mate, I have korean, jap, local cars... u dont see me rushing to defend hyundai's pricing policy just because I own one.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 5 2012, 03:17 PM)
The use of the word 'bad' is wrong. Its not bad. It may be slightly higher than some european countries but the Autobahn still ranks as among the safest roads to drive in the world.

There were 2.2 road user fatalities per billion vehicle kilometers on German autobahns in 2008. Neighboring countries with available data include Belgium (4.2 in 2007), Holland (2.1 in 2009), Denmark (2.5), Austria (4.2), Switzerland (1.2), and France (1.8). Using the same statistic, 4.5 fatalities have occurred in the United States on motorways. Germany also has 6X more vehicles than Holland so you have to take that into consideration as well.

Only half of the Autobahn doesn't have speed limits. The other half has speed limits in effect.
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U cannot compare by saying that Germany has 6X more vehicles than any other country so that fatality rate is higher.
That's why they count it in road user fatalities per billion vehicle kilometers.
Vehicle per capita in Switzerland, France, Spain, Norway, Iceland etc is higher than Germany. Which mean there are more vehicle per person in those countries. Vehicle density on the road is higher.
however, fatality rate is lower.
When compare fatality rate wt their neighbor, it still bad rite.

If compare wt us, of course we are more worst. hehe..
But of course due to a lot of reason.

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I can foresee the sales of Forte will shoot up if the new Elantra pricing is on the high side.
I for one, will seriously consider Forte 2.0 if Elantra is above 110k.As far as I know , Forte 2.0 lose out to Elantra on the following:
1) No sunroof (which is not important to me)
2) Electric seat
3) Design
4) Built in GPS
5) FC, not too sure but could be.

But on the other hand Forte wins on :
1)Airbags (6 vs 2)
2)Paddle shift
3)Cheaper

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 5 2012, 02:20 PM)
Bad comparison. COE is at a VERY high point now. COE is also a FIXED cost, unlike car tax here, hence high end cars in SG is more competitivelky priced then Msia. Oh and Singapore you dont NEED a car, their public transport is such that owning a car is a luxury and not a necessity. Can u say the same about Msia?
Also dollar for dollar cost of living in SG is lower then Msia, even their Kopi O is cheaper then what I paid for in KL without conversion.

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Well. Let's take a look at it from another perspective, since you mentioned that a Dollar spent in SG gets you more value than a Ringgit spent in Msia.

In that respect, it would mean our average bread and butter cars are, lo and behold, actually cheaper than an equivalent in SG. That's my point. I don't care if you want to call it COE or excise duty, regardless, this money has to be factored into car ownership costs, period. And at this period in time, an Elantra in SG costs more to own than here, because:

SGD1 > RM1, dollar to dollar, SGD100,000 > RM100,000, dollar to dollar too, yes?


Who cares about needing a car or not? Most participants in this thread are prospective buyers, so the question of needing a car or not, is moot. Moreover, a car may be a necessity in Msia, but a 100k car is NOT a necessity when you can buy a Myvi or Saga FLX for half the price or less. Anyone looking at an Elantra is not in the "Need a Car" category but belongs in the "Must Have It" category.

And seriously, (not you) what is there to moan about the speculative prices of the Elantra variants? When it launches we will know for sure. Then let your voice be heard by voting with your wallets.

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post Jan 5 2012, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Jan 5 2012, 03:39 PM)
SGD1 > RM1, dollar to dollar, SGD100,000 > RM100,000, dollar to dollar too, yes?
No. Wrong.

Dollar to dollar... 100k SGD = 100k RM

That's the whole definition of "Dollar to Dollar".

Why are you converting?! Unless you are working in singapore and while your colleague is getting paid SGD4000, you are getting paid RM4000, then you convert.

Oh and the nice bit about COE is... your car can actually APPRECIATE in value due to the COE.... last 2 years COE went from 20k to 60k+? So your car actually appreciated in value DUE to the COE.

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post Jan 5 2012, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Jan 5 2012, 03:38 PM)
I can foresee the sales of Forte will shoot up if the new Elantra pricing is on the high side.
Why would Forte sales shoot up??? Its not like ppl are holding off the purchases of Forte to get the Hyundai. Do the math.

Forte sales have always stagnated at that 400-700 units per month range since its launch. It may go down with the Elantra launch but it surely isnt gonna shoot up.
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buy prius C la, might be below 100k
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QUOTE(raptorclans @ Jan 5 2012, 03:33 PM)
I wish they'd reveal the price soon... I admit the price will be a deciding factor. I actually booked the Elantra as I was fed-up waiting months for my booked Ford Fiesta. So I actually hold bookings for 2 cars at the moment  sad.gif
If u booked the Fiesta sedan then i would say thats not a smart move. Its darn ugly and its poor sales are a reflection of it.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 5 2012, 03:51 PM)
If u booked the Fiesta sedan then i would say thats not a smart move. Its darn ugly and its poor sales are a reflection of it.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 5 2012, 03:49 PM)
Why would Forte sales shoot up??? Its not like ppl are holding off the purchases of Forte to get the Hyundai. Do the math.

Forte sales have always stagnated at that 400-700 units per month range since its launch. It may go down with the Elantra launch but it surely isnt gonna shoot up.
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That is just my prediction. Shoot up doesn’t necessarily mean, the sales go up from the current few hundred to few thousand a month. Just by going through the posting in the last few months in FnF, I can see there are actually people holding back their purchase of Forte until the new Elantra is launched.
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post Jan 5 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jan 5 2012, 03:50 PM)
buy prius C la, might be below 100k
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it's real? If true for sure I'll fill up redemption form of Hyundai thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 5 2012, 03:51 PM)
If u booked the Fiesta sedan then i would say thats not a smart move. Its darn ugly and its poor sales are a reflection of it.
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haha nope, it's the Fiesta S hatch. The Fiesta has great handling and all, but SDAC is just taking too long to deliver and kept delaying one month after another. then i was attracted to the Elantra as I've always liked the design since seeing it at KLIMS and it has more space than a Fiesta (diff segments, I know). If the price isn't too much of a difference I wouldn't mind having one smile.gif

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