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post Dec 13 2011, 09:15 PM, updated 10y ago

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Hi all. A close friend of mine is suffering from eczema. She does not like to use the steroid-based creams due to the side-effects that come with prolonged usages. Currently she is keeping watch on what she eats and using some other cream like aloe vera cream. Is there any good methods to treat or at least suppress eczema?

I read online that some cream called TriCeram is good for eczema, but is it available in Malaysia?


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post Dec 13 2011, 09:26 PM

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I'm suffering from eczema, for my case i found out it was due to a particular brand of shampoo plus some soaps that was causing this...basically my skin is sensitive due to strong chemicals.

Sorry i can't help with any treatments or remedies, maybe you could ask your friend to try to retrace the particular period of time when he/she got it together with any change of lifestyle. If need be try to stop a particular routine to see if it helps, time consuming yes since it took me about 2 years

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post Dec 13 2011, 10:12 PM

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Try using Polytar soap bar. Soaps, lotions, creams, etc which have strong fragrance usually make the condition worse so try avoiding it.
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post Dec 14 2011, 09:56 PM

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I actually was half way thru writing a long reply but it was just so hard to get all i wanted to say in words so i just deleted all of it.

Keeping it short:
Steroidal medications is really really bad in the long run- go wikipedia some of the active ingredients and look at their side effects. Good on your friend for realizing this.

Treatment that has been most effective for me- still ongoing btw (been around 3 months and big improvement in that time) is acupuncture together with chinese herbal medicine in KL at 'The Tole' run by Master Tole, try googling it.

He and his clinic appeared in the star newspaper early this in year, january or february i think (google). Saw it then but it somehow slipped my mind, only when i had a really bad breakout a few months ago did i remember about it and went for it. (kinda like a last resort thing)

Am really glad i went but there are some downsides. One is that you have to boil and drink the medicine which is really horrible- might get used to it i guess.

Some people are afraid of needles, but they don't go deep- just feels like an ant bite at the moment of insertion.

The cost of the herbal medicine might be a bit high.

He treats many kinds of diseases so the place is almost always packed so patients usually have to wait a long time.

Considering it's been working this well for me and no awful side effects i think its damn worth it in my opinion.
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post Dec 14 2011, 10:12 PM

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I use cream called demovate to heal the wounds that i scratch o.o
But then for bath, I used special soap starts with O,cant remember,sorry.. And seafoods is also bad.. Some people said..
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post Dec 14 2011, 10:27 PM

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Oh yeah one more thing my diet with the herbal treatment is super restricted-
easier to say what i can eat than what i cannot

most types of vegetables, grains, fruits
most types of fish
some sweeteners

and that's it.

Hopefully after 3 years of this can eat normally again.



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post Dec 15 2011, 06:01 AM

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go for IsABloodTest test wat kind of food allergy u hav

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post Dec 15 2011, 10:42 AM

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I had skin problems like psoriasis before I started taking resveratrol. It's a powerful polyphenolic anti-oxidant ocurring naturally in plants (in particular Japanese knotweed). Great improvement on my skin. No more skin peeling and no more 'little bumps' under my facial skin. No further need for creams and lotions. Pycnogenol may also help

Do your research before you buy.

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post Dec 15 2011, 12:03 PM

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Yeah like siaoand2 said- going for a blood test is a good idea as well. Did the alcat test at pathlab where they test your blood against various foodstuf for food intolerance.

By the way its a food intolerance test, not an actual allergy test. Allergies are actually pretty rare and confused with intolerance.

Anyway that only helped me a little. Your friend might have a milder case of eczema than mine though.
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post Dec 18 2011, 02:51 AM

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Any natural food which can stop inflammation other than steroid? Bcoz whn I have flare up nothing seems to work except steroid. I had full body eczema which always keep coming back on and off which has no end.

Using steroid on my face will cause redness so I try to refrain myself from using it as much as I could. My skin usually dry and flaky and I have to keep using moisturizer.

Now I need to be careful of eating sweet food. Even eating lot of rambutan will cause me to flare up

Anyone with helpful tips is much welcome

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post Dec 18 2011, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(shin gouki @ Dec 18 2011, 02:51 AM)
Any natural food which can stop inflammation other than steroid? Bcoz whn I have flare up nothing seems to work except steroid. I had full body eczema which always keep coming back on and off which has no end.

Using steroid on my face will cause redness so I try to refrain myself from using it as much as I could. My skin usually dry and flaky and I have to keep using moisturizer.

Now I need to be careful of eating sweet food. Even eating lot of rambutan will cause me to flare up

Anyone with helpful tips is much welcome
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Acupuncture with herbal medicine is working very well for me.

I go to 'The Tole' run by master Leong Hong Tole. He's very famous- appeared in The Star and Straits Times Singapore. Treats many kinds of diseases not just eczema.

Its at Menara Promet now called menara kh i think.

Google it



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post Dec 19 2011, 07:48 PM

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Article in The Star.

http://thestar.com.my/health/story.asp?fil...9057&sec=health

That's where i found out about it. People with eczema go try it and if it works go tell other people.

f*** steroids and all their f***ed up side effects.

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post Dec 20 2011, 08:01 AM

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my brother and father also had eczema, pretty bad on the legs area, also was using lots of creams and that, that's why we got into ecoparadise treatment, going there, after a few months, eczema cleared up significantly without any additional meds.
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post Dec 20 2011, 04:20 PM

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Check out this website:

http://www.fougera.com/knowledge_center/steroidpotency.asp

Dermovate is brand name for Clobetasol propionate by GSK.

A rough gauge for steroid potency lies in the prescription. If u have to apply it 3 times a day, it's a weak steroid. If u have to apply it only once a day, it's a strong steroid.
Topical steroids come in 2 forms; ointment and cream. Ointment form is more potent because it stays on the skin longer.

Topical steroids should not be used continuously for more than 2 weeks. Abuse of topical steroids lead to thin skin. Some get hypopigmented patches (like panau) on skin.

Another alternative for topical steroids is topical tacrolimus. It's comparable to mid-strength topical steroids but without the side effects of steroids. It does take a longer time for eczema to respond to tacrolimus. Another alternative is Ezzera.


If the eczema is widespread and in flare, it calls for short-term oral (prednisolone) or IV steroids (hydrocortisone). Eczema is controlled with lifelong emollient therapy.
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post Dec 21 2011, 10:44 AM

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last time I apply aqua cream, function like soap...
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post Dec 21 2011, 08:36 PM

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pls do not attempt to treat yourself.

look for KO Skin specialist in Klang.

I got my eczema cured within 2 weeks with medication ( antibio + cream )


Added on December 21, 2011, 8:40 pmpls do not attempt to treat yourself.

look for KO Skin specialist in Klang.

I got my eczema cured within 2 weeks with medication ( antibio + cream )


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post Dec 22 2011, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(NelsonBoy @ Dec 21 2011, 08:36 PM)
pls do not attempt to treat yourself.

look for KO Skin specialist in Klang.

I got my eczema cured within 2 weeks with medication ( antibio + cream )


Added on December 21, 2011, 8:40 pmpls do not attempt to treat yourself.

look for KO Skin specialist in Klang.

I got my eczema cured within 2 weeks with medication ( antibio + cream )
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By antibio you mean antibiotics?

What sort of cream were you prescribed?

Cured in 2 weeks?

I don't think you know what eczema actually is.



And another poster above suggested Tacrolimus-claiming it has no side effects.

Tacrolimus has lots of side effects- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacrolimus

People keep recommending steroids and more steroids and it's really starting to piss me off.

Steroids will f*** up a person's body in so many ways, i know this because i've been there myself thanks to advice from people who don't know anything.

Google the active ingredient of the steroid you are using and check out the side effects yourself.

Also the longer a person is on steroidal medication the harder it is to get off it.

People who don't know anything really shouldn't say anything.














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post Dec 22 2011, 09:13 PM

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Just to share with you guys
steroid addiction
now I stop using steroid for one week already
Now my face is dry and peeling
Other parts of my body like arm, neck, upper chest, groin area also have red patches.
I'm oso having some herbal medicine.
When my skin is dry I have to use moisturizer like qv cream and vaseline.
The website says tht the withdrawal period can last for 6 to 24 months. I dono how to work like this.
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post Dec 23 2011, 05:39 PM

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TS depend on which part of eczema and its severity for your friend.

I am the victim too, it is about your lifestyle

Bath: try non-foam body shampoo specialize for eczema such as Cetaphil, it is more exp, but it worth the money definitely.

Eat: avoid tree nuts, tiny prawn, and peanuts

Sleep: Don sleep late, it will further worsen for full body eczema case.

Having difficulty of sleep? take melatonin supplements. DO NOT rely on antihistamine and oral cortisteroid(those are for emergency acute eczema response)


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QUOTE(shin gouki @ Dec 22 2011, 09:13 PM)
Just to share with you guys
steroid addiction
now I stop using steroid for one week already
Now my face is dry and peeling
Other parts of my body like arm, neck, upper chest, groin area also have red patches.
I'm oso having some herbal medicine.
When my skin is dry I have to use moisturizer like qv cream and vaseline.
The website says tht the withdrawal period can last for 6 to 24 months. I dono how to work like this.
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Stop using QV, try cetaphil body shampoo, it works better for me, dry and peeling skin type.

I now never eat antihistamine and steroid, stop your herbal medicine, and one more thing, FRANCH oil also worsen the eczema.

Vaseline is very useful BUT, clean your skin every 6-8 hours and apply again.

What time you sleep normally? 1-2 am is absolutely NO, 11pm ++ must sleep d...

Environment: keep cleaning free from dust.

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QUOTE(NelsonBoy @ Dec 21 2011, 08:36 PM)
pls do not attempt to treat yourself.

look for KO Skin specialist in Klang.

I got my eczema cured within 2 weeks with medication ( antibio + cream )


Added on December 21, 2011, 8:40 pmpls do not attempt to treat yourself.

look for KO Skin specialist in Klang.

I got my eczema cured within 2 weeks with medication ( antibio + cream )
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There is no cure for eczema, bull shit! Please do not give pipe dream to other people.

Only way to be "cured" from this is by growing out of it (means it'll go off after a certain amount of growth) or by avoiding allergens causing it.
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Dec 23 2011, 09:24 PM)
There is no cure for eczema, bull shit! Please do not give pipe dream to other people.

Only way to be "cured" from this is by growing out of it (means it'll go off after a certain amount of growth) or by avoiding allergens causing it.
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it took me 2.5 years to grow out of eczema. thankful for the recovery. smile.gif

been applying steroid cream during these years...
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QUOTE(abyone @ Dec 23 2011, 08:28 PM)
it took me 2.5 years to grow out of eczema. thankful for the recovery.  smile.gif

been applying steroid cream during these years...
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wow!! 2.5 years! Good for u to make a recovery. smile.gif
btw, heard that using steroid cream for long term makes your skin thinner.. is that true?
any others side effects since u used it for 2.5 years??
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post Dec 25 2011, 10:10 PM

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My dermatitis is related to eczema, I think. I used a whole tube of Elidel ($90) something like Tacrolimus and it didn't do anything good or bad. It's not a steroid but maybe even more powerful (and dangerous?)

Has anybody with eczema actually had success with one of these?
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QUOTE(air @ Dec 23 2011, 05:39 PM)


Added on December 23, 2011, 5:42 pm
Stop using QV, try cetaphil body shampoo, it works better for me, dry and peeling skin type.

I now never eat antihistamine and steroid, stop your herbal medicine, and one more thing, FRANCH oil also worsen the eczema.

Vaseline is very useful BUT, clean your skin every 6-8 hours and apply again.

What time you sleep normally? 1-2 am is absolutely NO, 11pm ++ must sleep d...

Environment: keep cleaning free from dust.
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Now I found tht if I apply vaseline, my skin will become smelly n like soft (like after dip inside bathtub for long time) after a while. It will become dirty if I Don clean it for some time so I better stop using it. Qv cream works best for me but the downside is it is expensive and will disappear quite fast so have to keep apply it. Now gonna try aques cream.
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QUOTE(shin gouki @ Dec 25 2011, 10:47 PM)
Now I found tht if I apply vaseline, my skin will become smelly n like soft (like after dip inside bathtub for long time) after a while. It will become dirty if I Don clean it for some time so I better stop using it. Qv cream works best for me but the downside is it is expensive and will disappear quite fast so have to keep apply it. Now gonna try aques cream.
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Well different skin for ppl, you having oily skin? mine is super dry skin... so Vaseline is saviour to me... it is so effective till I dropped topical steroid, antihistamine and other skin moisturizing lotion...

QV yea is quite exp, and surprisingly, it kinda make my skin a bit worse...


Added on December 29, 2011, 8:46 am
QUOTE(bioslifeslim @ Dec 29 2011, 12:20 AM)
I can suggest you to apply this product, Green Tea Oil from Unicity.. Made and Patented in Japan by Unicity International, USA.

First in the world Green Tea Oil for skin and hair treatment.

100% Natural. Some information about the product:

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Usually product feat. in Magazine does not suit most of the eczema patient here. Not even the common body shampoo for eczema.

Most of us found the way out thru trial and errors, and of course info about the root of cause of eczema.

Eczema is kinda unique to every ppl...

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QUOTE(air @ Dec 29 2011, 08:41 AM)
Well different skin for ppl, you having oily skin? mine is super dry skin... so Vaseline is saviour to me... it is so effective till I dropped topical steroid, antihistamine and other skin moisturizing lotion...

QV yea is quite exp, and surprisingly, it kinda make my skin a bit worse...


Added on December 29, 2011, 8:46 am[/spoiler]

Usually product feat. in Magazine does not suit most of the eczema patient here. Not even the common body shampoo for eczema.

Most of us found the way out thru trial and errors, and of course info about the root of cause of eczema.

Eczema is kinda unique to every ppl...
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Hi air. my best friend's mom whom sufferred eczema for 35 years. she has been tried many methods, medication, creams, bath soap, etc.. and yet not successful. Just 11mths ago, she just change her breakfast into a healthy breakfast and just 8 days only, her itchiness reduced. Now 11mths maintaining her healthy breakfast, her problem resolved! She used to have high blood pressure, high sugar level and high cholesterol for some years but ever since changing into healthy breakfast 11 mths ago, all these issues also normal and stable. she no need to depend on medication on this!! I might not able to view each thread and if you keen to know for details, PM me.
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i went to dr ranjit for eczema and given some cream to apply. I only apply when the eczema comes back so far quite ok
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have u heard of olivenol plus...?
it's supposedly to be good for skin problems, like eczema or psoriasis...
can buy from guardian / other pharmacies...

hopefully this helps....
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Read that eczema is kind of inflammation. Good oils are good for skin.. olive, coconut, avocado. I apply to the skin & drink it too. Have u guys read the western forums ? Voted most effective is apple cider.
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QUOTE(ngam-channel @ Jan 13 2012, 10:33 PM)
have u heard of olivenol plus...?
it's supposedly to be good for skin problems, like eczema or psoriasis...
can buy from guardian / other pharmacies...

hopefully this helps....
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Hey.. I'm a 17 year old boy here. Been having eczema since I was Std 6. Got it a day after Christmas after coming back from S'pore. I've tried olivenol. I tried the pill one instead of the oil? It's kinda effective. But the downside is that it's quite expensive. sad.gif
A box has 25 pills or so. Around that amount. Can last a month. RM 150+ per box.
And for full effectiveness, it has to be taken for at least 6 months..
I can't really afford it.
Any cheaper solutions?? sad.gif


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Read that eczema is kind of inflammation. Good oils are good for skin.. olive, coconut, avocado. I apply to the skin & drink it too. Have u guys read the western forums ? Voted most effective is apple cider.
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apple cider to drink or to apply?

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In my case, my eczema is made worse by milk, so usually if the eczema comes back I stay off milk until it goes away, then I can happily drink milk again smile.gif
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Dec 23 2011, 08:24 PM)
There is no cure for eczema, bull shit! Please do not give pipe dream to other people.

Only way to be "cured" from this is by growing out of it (means it'll go off after a certain amount of growth) or by avoiding allergens causing it.
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maybe i should change the word cured to treated .
so far so good.
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Try these foods rich or supplements with Astaxanthin, Omega 3, Quercetin, bioflavonoids, beta-catotene,

Source :-
http://www.healwithfood.org/eczema/foods.php

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Need to spend a bit for toiletries for product such as Cetaphyl. I think Simple is a cheaper option. Actually products free from fragrance..
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QUOTE(Roz @ Jan 19 2012, 05:27 AM)
Need to spend a bit for toiletries for product such as Cetaphyl. I think Simple is a cheaper option. Actually products free from fragrance..
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I tried using other cheaper skin cleanser, till I tried Cetaphyl, altho it is exp, but it got the promotion always~ You Cetaphyl user too?
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QUOTE(air @ Jan 19 2012, 09:59 AM)
I tried using other cheaper skin cleanser, till I tried Cetaphyl, altho it is exp, but it got the promotion always~ You Cetaphyl user too?
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How does it work for you?
Nope, but my roommate have eczema too, so sometimes I do some research to help her by giving suggestions blush.gif
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QUOTE(Roz @ Jan 19 2012, 12:23 PM)
How does it work for you?
Nope, but my roommate have eczema too, so sometimes I do some research to help her by giving suggestions  blush.gif
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Before: Dove
After: Stick with Cetaphil

Cetaphil does to my skin compare to DOVE:

1. It wont make your skin dry, Dove claimed the same, but still too harsh for eczema user(severe type, mild type still ok but will feel no comfort)

2. Basically you look into the ingredients between these two, Ceta focus on simple cleansing(not using too much of chemical), Dove got a lot extra stuff.


Just intro your roommate, as same eczema users can share their conditions and solutions.
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hey i suffer from eczema too, esp my lips that is really a nightmare man! i cant use any lipstick/lipgloss...even lip balm I can only use Avene. well I've consulted a few docs even the famous doctor Ranjit in ss15..he gimme steroid cream (it works but i dun wan to keep relying on this..) oh well there is no cure for eczema but you can try taking Olivenol Plus Essence a pharmacist shared her experience and she recommended this to me (she herself suffering frm eczema too) It's a natural remedy, so I love it..the benefits are not just for skin (reduce skin inflammation), but also for health. I ran out of this, gonna replenish it real soon x__X at least i can keep my eczema under control nw.

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soap can cause eczema
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im a sufferer myself been like since primary till working age (>15 years). typically you can only suppress eczema, it will come back on and off when you got something to trigger it (seafood intake, allergens etc).

So far I tried for bathing : Oilatium plus (soak or soap type), polytar (soap), moogoo soap (some australian brand for eczema) and cetaphil.

oilment : those moisturizer cream when skin is dry, if skin is weeping and damage(reddish) due to scratch (fucicort @steroid based) and elomet @steroid based for reddish and inflamed skin. Not advisable to keep using steroid cream as they will cause some pigmentation (applied area will have diff colour, mine was whiter), fast healing but as ppl say, steroids is not good in long run.)

Also tried the fast method, checking to hospital under dermatologist monitoring, daily intake of oral steroids, soaking with oilatium plus, steroid cream(3x perday) and bandage the affected area preventing the cream from being rubbed off, around 1-1.5 weeks will clear all the eczema spots. Downside, only last for sometime before eczema flares up again.

surprisingly mine was triggered in humid condition and if sweat alot + dust. During my stay in aus, hardly get any eczema flaring up, once reach malaysia, within a month or 2 already started back.

nowadays i just live with it, when it goes real bad then only will use steroid cream to control it. Also eating olivenol plus tablets. So far only affect mostly leg now.

you can try doing patch test(they put some stuff/chemical(those you're in contact daily) on the skin and stick it for one week on your back) to see which things you're allergic to and blood test for those food stuff and other things.
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QUOTE(khtan2000 @ Jan 21 2012, 01:20 AM)
im a sufferer myself been like since primary till working age (>15 years). typically you can only suppress eczema, it will come back on and off when you got something to trigger it (seafood intake, allergens etc).

So far I tried for bathing : Oilatium plus (soak or soap type), polytar (soap), moogoo soap (some australian brand for eczema) and cetaphil.

oilment : those moisturizer cream when skin is dry, if skin is weeping and damage(reddish) due to scratch (fucicort @steroid based) and elomet @steroid based for reddish and inflamed skin. Not advisable to keep using steroid cream as they will cause some pigmentation (applied area will have diff colour, mine was whiter), fast healing but as ppl say, steroids is not good in long run.)

Also tried the fast method, checking to hospital under dermatologist monitoring, daily intake of oral steroids, soaking with oilatium plus, steroid cream(3x perday) and bandage the affected area preventing the cream from being rubbed off, around 1-1.5 weeks will clear all the eczema spots. Downside, only last for sometime before eczema flares up again.

surprisingly mine was triggered in humid condition and if sweat alot + dust. During my stay in aus, hardly get any eczema flaring up, once reach malaysia, within a month or 2 already started back.

nowadays i just live with it, when it goes real bad then only will use steroid cream to control it.  Also eating olivenol plus tablets. So far only affect mostly leg now.

you can try doing patch test(they put some stuff/chemical(those you're in contact daily) on the skin and stick it for one week on your back) to see which things you're allergic to and blood test for those food stuff and other things.
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oh my rclxub.gif I oso doin my best to suppress eczema.. YES!! olivenol plus, i am taking that too *hi 5*
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[quote=technosakai,Jan 14 2012, 10:30 PM]
I've tried olivenol. I tried the pill one instead of the oil? It's kinda effective.
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How did it help, any better compared to others? What exactly happened?


[quote=technosakai,Jan 14 2012, 10:30 PM]
I can't really afford it.
Any cheaper solutions?? sad.gif ?
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Raw honey for masks and washing, coconut oil for moisturizing. Can buy small amounts in supermarket.
Doesn't work for everybody but cannot get more natural, harmless and can consume it later instead.

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QUOTE(cocaineEater @ Jan 21 2012, 01:53 PM)
oh my  rclxub.gif I oso doin my best to suppress eczema.. YES!! olivenol plus, i am taking that too *hi 5*
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icon_rolleyes.gif did it have any effect on your eczema?

need to take it daily though, but usually I missed eating them on daily basis, hard to keep to schedule whistling.gif
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icon_rolleyes.gif  did it have any effect on your eczema?

need to take it daily though, but usually I missed eating them on daily basis, hard to keep to schedule  whistling.gif
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erm it helps a lil XD i take once a day and sometimes i forgot o.o
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QUOTE(khtan2000 @ Jan 21 2012, 01:20 AM)
im a sufferer myself been like since primary till working age (>15 years). typically you can only suppress eczema, it will come back on and off when you got something to trigger it (seafood intake, allergens etc).

So far I tried for bathing : Oilatium plus (soak or soap type), polytar (soap), moogoo soap (some australian brand for eczema) and cetaphil.

oilment : those moisturizer cream when skin is dry, if skin is weeping and damage(reddish) due to scratch (fucicort @steroid based) and elomet @steroid based for reddish and inflamed skin. Not advisable to keep using steroid cream as they will cause some pigmentation (applied area will have diff colour, mine was whiter), fast healing but as ppl say, steroids is not good in long run.)

Also tried the fast method, checking to hospital under dermatologist monitoring, daily intake of oral steroids, soaking with oilatium plus, steroid cream(3x perday) and bandage the affected area preventing the cream from being rubbed off, around 1-1.5 weeks will clear all the eczema spots. Downside, only last for sometime before eczema flares up again.

surprisingly mine was triggered in humid condition and if sweat alot + dust. During my stay in aus, hardly get any eczema flaring up, once reach malaysia, within a month or 2 already started back.

nowadays i just live with it, when it goes real bad then only will use steroid cream to control it.  Also eating olivenol plus tablets. So far only affect mostly leg now.

you can try doing patch test(they put some stuff/chemical(those you're in contact daily) on the skin and stick it for one week on your back) to see which things you're allergic to and blood test for those food stuff and other things.
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Kudos, am eczema vitcim, what I did:

Bath: Cetaphil
Face dryness and inflammation prevention: Vaseline(mine dry face type)
Eat: Melatonin for sleep(cause me always facing monitor)

Actually most important for skin inflammation prevention is sleep early ==> before 12pm...
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i kena eczema also.usually happen near my nose and behind my ear, consult pharmacist and they ask me to take below cream;

1st pharmacy :

-candacort cream (anti fungal and candical infection, inflmmatory symptom and itching)

2nd pharmacy:

-H-Cort ointment (suppresion of skin disease )


1st clinic (from my company panel clinc..got it for free)
doctor said this is dermatitis eczema(what is this??)

-Isoradin cream.



so i want to ask, which one is better to prevent this eczema?


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QUOTE(imranzero @ Jan 24 2012, 07:18 PM)
i kena eczema also.usually happen near my nose and behind my ear, consult pharmacist and they ask me to take below cream;

1st pharmacy :

-candacort cream (anti fungal and candical infection, inflmmatory symptom and itching)

2nd pharmacy:

-H-Cort ointment (suppresion of skin disease )
1st clinic (from my company panel clinc..got it for free)
doctor said this is dermatitis eczema(what is this??)

-Isoradin cream.
so i want to ask, which one is better to prevent this eczema?
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I use Ecocort cream and it sort of helps to suppress the eczema. So far so good. It's around RM 9 in Caring Pharmacy.

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My medication:

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So far recovered and am still trying to figure out how to completely remove em.
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QUOTE(imranzero @ Jan 24 2012, 07:18 PM)
i kena eczema also.usually happen near my nose and behind my ear, consult pharmacist and they ask me to take below cream;

1st pharmacy :

-candacort cream (anti fungal and candical infection, inflmmatory symptom and itching)

2nd pharmacy:

-H-Cort ointment (suppresion of skin disease )
1st clinic (from my company panel clinc..got it for free)
doctor said this is dermatitis eczema(what is this??)

-Isoradin cream.
so i want to ask, which one is better to prevent this eczema?
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dermatitis type, you need to use milder shampoo(body and hair), moisturizer, and avoid allergen source(such as allergic food, and dust)... man you way better than atopic eczema which is no cure.
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Testimony for eczema sufferers. Before and after pictures available upon request. tks.
Clinical Trial: Alkaline Water and Eczema

The following study was conducted by Prof. Tamura Tatsuji, Keifuku Rehabilitation Center:

“Let me introduce a patient who recovered from skin disease after consuming the antioxidant water. This patient suffered 10 years of eczema and could not be cured effectively even under specialist treatment.

This patient, who is 70 years of age, is the president of a vehicle spare parts company. After the war, his lower limbs suffered acute eczema, which later became chronic. He was repeatedly treated in a specialist skin hospital.

The left limb responded well to treatment, but not so on the right limb. He suffered severe itchiness, which, when scratched led to bleeding.

During the last 10 years, he was seen and treated by many doctors. When I first examined him, his lower limb around the joints was covered with vesicles. Weeping occurred owing to serum exuding from the vesicles.

I advised him to try consuming antioxidant water. He bought a unit and consumed the antioxidant water religiously and used the acidic water to bathe the affected areas.

After 2 weeks of treatment the vesicles dried up. The eczema completely cleared without any relapse after 1½ month."
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QUOTE(extremepower @ Jan 24 2012, 10:16 PM)
Testimony for eczema sufferers. Before and after pictures available upon request. tks.
Clinical Trial: Alkaline Water and Eczema

The following study was conducted by Prof. Tamura Tatsuji, Keifuku Rehabilitation Center:

“Let me introduce a patient who recovered from skin disease after consuming the antioxidant water. This patient suffered 10 years of eczema and could not be cured effectively even under specialist treatment.

This patient, who is 70 years of age, is the president of a vehicle spare parts company. After the war, his lower limbs suffered acute eczema, which later became chronic. He was repeatedly treated in a specialist skin hospital.

The left limb responded well to treatment, but not so on the right limb. He suffered severe itchiness, which, when scratched led to bleeding.

During the last 10 years, he was seen and treated by many doctors. When I first examined him, his lower limb around the joints was covered with vesicles. Weeping occurred owing to serum exuding from the vesicles.

I advised him to try consuming antioxidant water. He bought a unit and consumed the antioxidant water religiously and used the acidic water to bathe the affected areas.

After 2 weeks of treatment the vesicles dried up. The eczema completely cleared without any relapse after 1½ month."
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Now I'm taking ling zhi or ganoderma plus pollen. It really helps a lot n my skin is recovering slowly. Not to mention I completely stop using steroid since December bcoz it cause my face to become so red. Now my arms and face is less flaky n less skin peeling. Although they still dry, but they are much better than last time which my skin will easily cracked. But then the cost of ganoderma is extremely expensive n not really affordable to everybody. But I think it is not wasted. Is olivenol really effective on eczema? I tried it last time which is the bottle drop one, but the effect is minimal.
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QUOTE(shin gouki @ Jan 25 2012, 02:15 AM)
Now I'm taking ling zhi or ganoderma plus pollen. It really helps a lot n my skin is recovering slowly. Not to mention I completely stop using steroid since December bcoz it cause my face to become so red. Now my arms and face is less flaky n less skin peeling. Although they still dry, but they are much better than last time which my skin will easily cracked. But then the cost of ganoderma is extremely expensive n not really affordable to everybody. But I think it is not wasted. Is olivenol really effective on eczema? I tried it last time which is the bottle drop one, but the effect is minimal.
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Im not sure if I have eczema or just normall allergy.

Last time once a while the skin around my neck and elbow will start become rough and flaky. I think is triggered by something but i dont know what it is.

When I went to Japan, I never had that problem over there. I think is environment. Now back Malaysia, I also dont have it as often as before.

When I got, I just sapu the cream from clinic and 2 days later will ok back to normal.

Although not sure mine is call wat disease. Maybe is only allergy


Added on January 27, 2012, 10:48 amJust to share here not pushing my product to you guys.

There been cases where people use virgin coconut oil and apply on their exzema area and get better. There's a testimony in

http://www.cocoscience.com/

Again, im not saying you need buy from me. If you want, you can get from pharmacy near you or something. Just sharing cos im suffer skin disease before so i know the mental stress.

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yeah, my uncle also recommend virgin coconut oil to try, so far didnt try yet.

some doctor say its also triggered by stress unsure.gif Don't know how true though, probably more stress = more scratching to relax whistling.gif
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i also got hear ppl say trigger by stress.. but that 1 how to cure? human sure got stress.. only after it come out can apply medicine to soothe it lo
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i also got hear ppl say trigger by stress.. but that 1 how to cure? human sure got stress.. only after it come out can apply medicine to soothe it lo
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my doctor did said the same thing. can also be trigger by stress. yes i stress a lot. biggrin.gif ..owh ya, i just had my appointment with doctor a few days back and he said my eczema is this type;

http://dermnetnz.org/dermatitis/seborrhoeic-dermatitis.html


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QUOTE(imranzero @ Jan 30 2012, 01:47 PM)
my doctor did said the same thing. can also be trigger by stress. yes i stress a lot. biggrin.gif ..owh ya, i just had my appointment with doctor a few days back and he said my eczema is this type;

http://dermnetnz.org/dermatitis/seborrhoeic-dermatitis.html
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They always said caused by stress, but never mention it specifically, may I know your sleeping hours?
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They always said caused by stress, but never mention it specifically, may I know your sleeping hours?
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b4 this i always sleep late 2-3am.sometime 4am..now already start my sleep at 11.30 and woke up at 7.30..i've learned my lesson smile.gif
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QUOTE(imranzero @ Jan 30 2012, 02:46 PM)
b4 this i always sleep late 2-3am.sometime 4am..now already start my sleep at 11.30 and woke up at 7.30..i've learned my lesson  smile.gif
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I having the same eczema, but worse form, triggered by tons of factor, one of them is physical stress(sleep late)

Really need to sleep early to recover from eczema. Sleep early is the key of chronic eczema.
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QUOTE(air @ Jan 30 2012, 04:20 PM)
I having the same eczema, but worse form, triggered by tons of factor, one of them is physical stress(sleep late)

Really need to sleep early to recover from eczema. Sleep early is the key of chronic eczema.
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how worst bro? mine last time at eyebrow also got scalp,around my nose and at back of my ear and also my forehead totally reddish..quite pain and a bit malu to go out to public area... i use this medicine, totally good.just go to pharmacy and ask for silenium sulfide lotion..take the one with most s.sulfide..a bottle cost rm15-rm20.
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QUOTE(imranzero @ Jan 30 2012, 04:28 PM)
how worst bro? mine last time at eyebrow also got scalp,around my nose and at back of my ear and also my forehead totally reddish..quite pain and a bit malu to go out to public area... i use this medicine, totally good.just go to pharmacy and ask for silenium sulfide lotion..take the one with most s.sulfide..a bottle cost rm15-rm20.
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Mine? scalp all over my body, reddish, and painful on back of ear, forehead if scratched, both area keep filled with lymph fluid, keep wiping with cloth also non stop flowing. Bathing is very painful for whole face and neck, painful than being stabbed by knife.

Verified by Clinic doc as emergency inflammation case(acute atopic eczema), then first two days not going to bath(pain till want to suicide if touch water), suppress the inflammation fast with heavier dosage of steroid, means no longer painful within two days when bath.

Administration of steriod pills for one week, all symptoms gone, and when it came back on mild form, discovered that physical stress factor caused by late night sleep, when sleep early, skin feel very good and not reddish anymore. If you cant sleep well, try melatonin.
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QUOTE(air @ Jan 30 2012, 04:40 PM)
Mine? scalp all over my body, reddish, and painful on back of ear, forehead if scratched, both area keep filled with lymph fluid, keep wiping with cloth also non stop flowing. Bathing is very painful for whole face and neck, painful than being stabbed by knife.

Verified by Clinic doc as emergency inflammation case(acute atopic eczema), then first two days not going to bath(pain till want to suicide if touch water), suppress the inflammation fast with heavier dosage of steroid, means no longer painful within two days when bath.

Administration of steriod pills for one week, all symptoms gone, and when it came back on mild form, discovered that physical stress factor caused by late night sleep, when sleep early, skin feel very good and not reddish anymore. If you cant sleep well, try melatonin.
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sorry to hear that bro, enuf to make me sked sad.gif ..hm, how about the food you eat? are you allergics to any food?
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sorry to hear that bro, enuf to make me sked sad.gif ..hm, how about the food you eat? are you allergics to any food?
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During the reddish stage, avoid:

Nuts(Especially peanuts)

Alcohol

Prawn and Crabs(Shellfish can take a bit)

Basically I eat anything except above.


Even on normal, try not to take peanut and ONLY take small portion of seafood. Alcohol if can try to avoid as the reddish will recover much more slowly.
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QUOTE(air @ Jan 30 2012, 05:03 PM)
During the reddish stage, avoid:

Nuts(Especially peanuts)

Alcohol

Prawn and Crabs(Shellfish can take a bit)

Basically I eat anything except above.
Even on normal, try not to take peanut and ONLY take small portion of seafood. Alcohol if can try to avoid as the reddish will recover much more slowly.
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no more peanut butter for me. sad.gif

when did you start having this eczema? mind started this year, never had this kind of problem before in my 24 years of life. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(imranzero @ Jan 30 2012, 05:30 PM)
no more peanut butter for me. sad.gif

when did you start having this eczema? mind started this year, never had this kind of problem before in my 24 years of life.  rclxub.gif
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Since 20, it tend to be chronic, tried countless method and meds(really forgot to count) till now 27 baru know the root of cause for my case. I feel my whole life renewed since I found the stress factor.
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QUOTE(imranzero @ Jan 30 2012, 01:47 PM)
...., i just had my appointment with doctor a few days back and he said my eczema is this type;

http://dermnetnz.org/dermatitis/seborrhoeic-dermatitis.html
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Two reputable KL dermatolgists said I have this, and THEY KNOW OF NO CURE, confirmed by web searches too. The two doctors' gave steroid creams only for temporary relief and not good for the skin and liver over long time.

I have tried everything too, hahah, including most of the things mentioned, steroids creams, ketoconazole, selenium sulfide, pyrithione, coal tar, Elidel tacrolimus cream, Nixoderm, branded moisturizers, cider vinegar, no alcohol, no coffee, etc. (Don't know if I have peanut allergy, but eat a LOT of them in my diet so I should have died by now.)

Conclusion, don't waste a lot of money on commercial products, either cosmetics or pharmaceuticals. Find something to relieve the symptoms -- cleanse, remove loose skin, moisturize, reduce redness, heal. My personal choice is raw honey and coconut oil. These are easily available and not expensive so you can see if they work. If not, just use for cooking.

Reference: http://www.rosaceagroup.org/The_Rosacea_Fo...gin-coconut-oil

If the condition shows up on your face or other exposed areas, find low allergenic cosmetics to help. Women probably know what to do. Men, try some Body Shop green corrector stick. For larger areas, combine with a men's BB cream. Get some advice on how to use these or you may look, well....

Good luck in your search everybody.

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hi all,

posted earlier on, now my family members eczema quite a lot better, we are attending the ecoparadise at bukit jelutong, i see so many people suffer here, so will mention 1 more time. i also realise there have many eczema patients too. the treatment is very effective, its like a kind of oxygen sauna, but it seems to work on all the patients there with eczema
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QUOTE(thepirate @ Jan 31 2012, 12:31 PM)
hi all,

posted earlier on, now my family members eczema quite a lot better, we are attending the ecoparadise at bukit jelutong, i see so many people suffer here, so will mention 1 more time. i also realise there have many eczema patients too. the treatment is very effective, its like a kind of oxygen sauna, but it seems to work on all the patients there with eczema
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may i know how much does it cost per session or is it in a package?
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hi all,

posted earlier on, now my family members eczema quite a lot better, we are attending the ecoparadise at bukit jelutong, i see so many people suffer here, so will mention 1 more time. i also realise there have many eczema patients too. the treatment is very effective, its like a kind of oxygen sauna, but it seems to work on all the patients there with eczema
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Sounds like you are confusing eczema with ASTHMA ?
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Sounds like you are confusing eczema with ASTHMA ?
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eczema, bad skin, redness, rash, irritaion, lots of scratching will lead to infection, just had a session there tonight, they said it stops your body from "oxidation", meaning decomposing i guess, whilst your metabolism rate and healing is boosted, unbelievable, even there is one egg in the resting are which has been cracked open, but not rotting and no smell been there for like a month and a half, anyway it has worked so far, so i guess what works, works
we signed up for the family package, which is like 1050 for 50 times, so i guess its about 21 each time? they also have introduction package at 48 for 3 times. basically you go there, they issue you a yukata (japanese robe), a towel and a small towel, then you put your stuff in a locker, change, then go lie down on some special tiles in a hot room, for about 45 mins, after that you come out, relax, they serve you an enzyme drink, then when you cool down, you shower, change and go home.

i like it because there is no medicines, no any sort of acupuncture or hands on treatment, it something to do with the japanese materials on the walls. they do recommend like a spray from japan though, for skin problems like eczema, my father and brother spray it on, and they feel vey relieved and it seems to make it better, costs about 10 or something for the big bottle

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I have Eczema. Pretty bad case but now under control.

My advice to most of you is instead of generalizing and basing things on heresay , get an allergy test done.

I did mine twice and found out i'm highly allergic to Chicken / Eggs and Chocolate for food , Rubber and cockroaches (droppings/urine etc) for contact surfaces.

I avoid them nowadays so my sources of protein are mostly seafood and meat now.
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Dec 23 2011, 08:24 PM)
There is no cure for eczema, bull shit! Please do not give pipe dream to other people.

Only way to be "cured" from this is by growing out of it (means it'll go off after a certain amount of growth) or by avoiding allergens causing it.
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creme, health food, drug etc wont help as these are taken after eczema relapse.

Generally, eczema is a symptom of bad allergy.

Go Pantai Bangsar (as it's the only Hospital with Allergy expert at this moment), get allergy test on your blood.

It will once for all solve the guessing game..


Added on February 1, 2012, 12:33 pmBtw, most eczema do not involve with dermatologist as they cant do anything.

You need to manage your allergy.

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Feb 1 2012, 12:32 PM)
creme, health food, drug etc wont help as these are taken after eczema relapse.

Generally, eczema is a symptom of bad allergy.

Go Pantai Bangsar (as it's the only Hospital with Allergy expert at this moment), get allergy test on your blood.

It will once for all solve the guessing game..


Added on February 1, 2012, 12:33 pmBtw, most eczema do not involve with dermatologist as they cant do anything.

You need to manage your allergy.
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Good points, but many of the allergens are so common that we will never be free of them. The list may be long, so finding the exact ones and eliminating them may be tricky. Eg, how many of our daily food products contain no dairy, no wheat, no soybean, no corn, no sugar?

The problem is also related to genetic make up of an individual's immune system. The fungus and bacteria that may cause dermatitis, eczema, etc. are present on everybody but other people manage to eliminate them through their more effective immune systems.

My point is that yes try to end the guessing, find the allergen cause but that may not be the end of the story. We may have no option except management and control of the symptoms using methods that cause the least expense and least harmful side effects.

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Aiyo, U got money to buy ka? Expensive tau. Call Connie 0127003361 to test lah. It is free. thumbup.gif
Say I ask you to contact her. (Applies to anyone reading this.). You know hat acid ph2.5 is used for ka? aiyo. lol. rclxub.gif

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Source of research article please, otherwise you are just one of the conman who try to sell your 'products' to me.
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Aiyo, U got money to buy ka? Expensive tau. Call Connie 0127003361 to test lah. It is free. thumbup.gif
Say I ask you to contact her. (Applies to anyone reading this.). You know hat acid ph2.5 is used for ka? aiyo. lol. rclxub.gif
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I ask you about source and yet you are being dodgy, oh ya just in case you dunno, there is a serious contradiction between your posts:

Alkaline water==> PH more than 7

Good try TROLL, now F OFF and go play somewhere else.
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Source of research article please, otherwise you are just one of the conman who try to sell your 'products' to me.
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http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelate...DSH/coral2.html

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelate...waterindex.html

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This thread is about eczema user seeking solution for different variant, not for MLM TROLL like you.

Your foul words and source video is not contributing in this thread.
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Yo guys I have eczema,not very serious ones,just mild ones..I went to Dr.Ranjit skin specialist in SS15 Subang Jaya,he gave me two creams,I'm not sure if they are steroid creams but I think they probably are..after putting the eczema goes away,but after a few days it will come back,then I will resume putting,all go away,then again after a few days it will come back...don't tell me eczema can only be prevented,but cannot be cured once and for all?
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QUOTE(runner_95 @ Feb 5 2012, 12:30 AM)
Yo guys I have eczema,not very serious ones,just mild ones..I went to Dr.Ranjit skin specialist in SS15 Subang Jaya,he gave me two creams,I'm not sure if they are steroid creams but I think they probably are..after putting the eczema goes away,but after a few days it will come back,then I will resume putting,all go away,then again after a few days it will come back...don't tell me eczema can only be prevented,but cannot be cured once and for all?
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Please describe it. It might be S.D. so you might try the natural approach I mentioned earlier, to control and manage it. No false hopes for cures, sorry.

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did anyone knows effect of using Unifex N? or other steroid? im too dumb to read all English text that makes my brain to collapse... har har har
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OK, they say a picture is worth a thousand words:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...ophied_skin.png

But here are some interesting words about your drug, from Wiki:

A cream with 0.05% betamethasone appears effective in treating phimosis in boys, and often averts the need for circumcision. [2][3][4] It has replaced circumcision as the preferred treatment method for some physicians in the British National Health Service.[5][6]

You decide.
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QUOTE(chamelion @ Feb 1 2012, 12:32 PM)
creme, health food, drug etc wont help as these are taken after eczema relapse.

Generally, eczema is a symptom of bad allergy.

Go Pantai Bangsar (as it's the only Hospital with Allergy expert at this moment), get allergy test on your blood.

It will once for all solve the guessing game..


Added on February 1, 2012, 12:33 pmBtw, most eczema do not involve with dermatologist as they cant do anything.

You need to manage your allergy.
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How much does it cost for the allergy test?

i've been having eczema for the past 2 years and no medicines nor cream really stops the itching. and yes, it gets worse at night. recently, i've tried rubbing extra virgin olive oil. seems to soothe the skin a little. i want to go natural now.... so knowing what i'm allergic to would be good information.
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If i am not wrong, the test is about rm35 per allergent. Test on basic and those is your favorite food then u can manage the lifestyle.

Eg egg, dairy, nut, grains, seafood, meat.


Added on February 6, 2012, 1:32 pmAlso go read about sensitive to food or allergy. Net have tons of those article. No miracle water or drug, just face it and manage it.

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mine healed, it was a long time a go when i was in primary school.
it was on my legs, left and right and one of my finger. i use to scratch it a lot because it was too itchy!

then my parents brought me to the skin specialist at seremban, and they gave me Cloderm and also Dove soap (that time Dove is not that popular in malaysia, they only have the cube soap)
and some ppl also belive that, eating an eel(fried soup etc) can help it heal faster.

and seafood is a big no no for me too especially prawn. I dont know about the others.

this is my experience smile.gif

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You guys can try using extra virgin olive oil. I've been using it for the past 2 weeks. And the good thing about it is that, it keeps the moisture in the skin so that the skin doesn't get dry fast. And that might help with the itch. It might be a bit oily after applying it on the body though. Worse come to worse, if you don't like it, just use it for cooking.

And I use Oilatum soap bar. Tried Dove, Johnson&Johnson but didn't really suit my skin. J&J made skin dry.

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If you try this and oil seems to help, then do proceed to try coconut instead of olive. It is really very different, not oily, sinks into the skin, does not turn rancid. Google and read the comparisons on the internet.

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If you try this and oil seems to help, then do proceed to try coconut instead of olive. It is really very different, not oily, sinks into the skin, does not turn rancid. Google and read the comparisons on the internet.

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Sure. Thank you. Will try that once this bottle finishes. Any specific coconut oil? I've only seen those for coconut hair oil.
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Sure. Thank you. Will try that once this bottle finishes. Any specific coconut oil? I've only seen those for coconut hair oil.
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No no ! Those for hair are very smelly.
Eat up your olive oil and instead....
Buy the smallest bottle of coconut oil from a supermarket (about RM15-20). It does not spoil and one bottle lasts forever.
Put some in the fridge in a shallow container. After it hardens, just scrape a tiny bit off and apply.

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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Feb 9 2012, 07:25 PM)
No no !  Those for hair are very smelly.
Eat up your olive oil and instead....
Buy the smallest bottle of coconut oil from a supermarket (about RM15-20). It does not spoil and one bottle lasts forever.
Put some in the fridge in a shallow container. After it hardens, just scrape a tiny bit off and apply.

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Hardening it then scrapping off might not be that convenient for me, as i need to rub it all over my hands and legs. So i guess just the oil would do. Will try and update later.

And for now, i'm trying to be on a vegetarian diet. Will let you guys know of the progress soon.
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Night itch:

I don't get that except for insect bites, and I have a bad reaction.

Doctors prescribe antihistamines or corticosteroids which usually have lots of undesirable effects. When I have a bad itch, I take an aspirin tablet with a biscuit before bed. It reduces inflammation and I sleep through the reduced itch. Panadol is easier to get but it doesn't work for me. I wouldn't want to do it everyday although many people take a daily aspirin for stroke prevention. Note: aspirin must be taken together with food or you may get stomach bleeding.

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Night itch:

I don't get that except for insect bites, and I have a bad reaction.

Doctors prescribe antihistamines or corticosteroids which usually have lots of undesirable effects. When I have a bad itch, I take an aspirin tablet with a biscuit before bed. It reduces inflammation and I sleep through the reduced itch.  Panadol is easier to get but it doesn't work for me. I wouldn't want to do it everyday although many people take a daily aspirin for stroke prevention. Note: aspirin must be taken together with food or you may get stomach bleeding.

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I stopped corticosteroids because of the side effects. i take antihistamines sometimes at night if it's extremely itchy. And yeah, I try not to take them frequently. Never tried aspirin before. Does it reduce the itch also or just the inflammation on the skin?


And, another really important thing is that we NEED to make sure that our nails are SHORT!! It is extremely important as it will reduce greatly the effect of scratching (if you do scratch because of the itch).
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QUOTE(maroondinasour @ Feb 14 2012, 08:58 PM)
I stopped corticosteroids because of the side effects. i take antihistamines sometimes at night if it's extremely itchy. And yeah, I try not to take them frequently. Never tried aspirin before. Does it reduce the itch also or just the inflammation on the skin?
And, another really important thing is that we NEED to make sure that our nails are SHORT!! It is extremely important as it will reduce greatly the effect of scratching (if you do scratch because of the itch).
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Not really the effect of scratching, but the irritant/bacteria/anything else in your nails make your skin itchy.

Corticosteroid is just for emergency acute response.
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Never tried aspirin before. Does it reduce the itch also or just the inflammation on the skin?
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For me, it reduces inflammation so the redness calms down and thus less itch. Falling into nice deep sleep of course no scratching for many hours, buying time for skin to repair.

Sometimes I use a mild over the counter, non-steroid anti-itch cream, Egoderm.

Just FYI, I saw this about cancer prevention and aspirin: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15500317

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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Feb 15 2012, 07:59 PM)
For me, it reduces inflammation so the redness calms down and thus less itch. Falling into nice deep sleep of course no scratching for many hours, buying time for skin to repair.

Sometimes I use a mild over the counter,  non-steroid anti-itch cream, Egoderm.

Just FYI, I saw this about cancer prevention and aspirin: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15500317

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I wanted to try aspirin. However my sister (she's a final year medical student) said that, aspirin might give immediate relieve but is not good in the long run for people with eczema. So now, i'm on the fence..... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(maroondinasour @ Feb 22 2012, 11:50 PM)
I wanted to try aspirin. However my sister (she's a final year medical student) said that, aspirin might give immediate relieve but is not good in the long run for people with eczema. So now, i'm on the fence.....  rclxub.gif
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Yes in long run aspirin no good, most important is lifestyle adjustment.

May I know which type of eczema your sister suffer? If it is atopic eczema, I can suggest some of the simple tips which take me years to realize, to save your sister out of the trouble with shortcut.
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Yes in long run aspirin no good, most important is lifestyle adjustment.

May I know which type of eczema your sister suffer? If it is atopic eczema, I can suggest some of the simple tips which take me years to realize, to save your sister out of the trouble with shortcut.
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My sister doesn't have eczema. I do actually. I have papular eczema, which is a type of atopic dermatitis. She was just advising me. I've been having it for more than 2 years now. Currently i'm not on any medicines. Except if it's too itchy, i take anti-histamines. I'm on a vegetarian diet. I rub olive oil all over to soothe my skin a little. Going to try coconut oil soon.

Any new suggestion?
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QUOTE(maroondinasour @ Feb 23 2012, 10:27 AM)
My sister doesn't have eczema. I do actually. I have papular eczema, which is a type of atopic dermatitis. She was just advising me. I've been having it for more than 2 years now. Currently i'm not on any medicines. Except if it's too itchy, i take anti-histamines. I'm on a vegetarian diet. I rub olive oil all over to soothe my skin a little. Going to try coconut oil soon.

Any new suggestion?
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Ok please fill me in with details:

1. How long you clean your room once?

2. Type of fabrics for most of your clothes

3. Brand of your shower cream and shampoo

4. Temperature/humidity of your living environment(if got working, please list your working place too)

5. What time you sleep and what time you need to get up for work(if any)

For atopic type:

1. Antihistamine not effective for your case, it making you drowsy and it wont aid you for better sleep quality.

2. Olive oil is OK, but not so effective, try Vaseline.

3. Mostly is caused by internal inflammation caused by allergen, insufficient sleeping time etc.

4. you can read about my case from my previous posts.
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Ok please fill me in with details:

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1. How long you clean your room once?
once a week

2. Type of fabrics for most of your clothes
cotton

3. Brand of your shower cream and shampoo
using oilatum soap, Clairol herbal essence shampoo

4. Temperature/humidity of your living environment(if got working, please list your working place too)
at home it's normal room temperature, working & studying place is fully air cond

5. What time you sleep and what time you need to get up for work(if any)
i used to sleep late and wake up early (if i have something to do). but nowadays i'm trying to sleep by 11pm and getting up by 8 am since i read someone saying that sleeping early helps. and it really does help. i do sleep better now.

For atopic type:

1. Antihistamine not effective for your case, it making you drowsy and it wont aid you for better sleep quality.
Surprisingly, so far, no anti histamines make me drowsy. Even chlorpheniramine doesn't make drowsy biggrin.gif

2. Olive oil is OK, but not so effective, try Vaseline.
tried vaseline but it's a bit too messy for me. olive is more manageable and lost longer on my skin.


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QUOTE(maroondinasour @ Feb 23 2012, 11:26 AM)
1. How long you clean your room once?
  once a week

2. Type of fabrics for most of your clothes
    cotton

3. Brand of your shower cream and shampoo
  using oilatum soap, Clairol herbal essence shampoo

4. Temperature/humidity of your living environment(if got working, please list your working place too)
    at home it's normal room temperature, working & studying place is fully air cond

5. What time you sleep and what time you need to get up for work(if any)
  i used to sleep late and wake up early (if i have something to do). but nowadays i'm trying to sleep by 11pm and getting up by 8 am since i read someone saying that sleeping early helps. and it really does help. i do sleep better now.

For atopic type:

1. Antihistamine not effective for your case, it making you drowsy and it wont aid you for better sleep quality.
  Surprisingly, so far, no anti histamines make me drowsy. Even chlorpheniramine doesn't make drowsy  biggrin.gif

2. Olive oil is OK, but not so effective, try Vaseline.
    tried vaseline but it's a bit too messy for me. olive is more manageable and lost longer on my skin.

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Good then, it seems your skin type is not so dry like mine, currently my only prob is just sleeping time adjustment, since previously I late sleep till my whole body into emergency acute eczema phase once(it is very scary and suffering, hell/instant die is better feel than the acute type). When you sleep well, actually many problem/symptom of eczema can be solved easily.
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QUOTE(air @ Feb 23 2012, 11:33 AM)
Good then, it seems your skin type is not so dry like mine, currently my only prob is just sleeping time adjustment, since previously I late sleep till my whole body into emergency acute eczema phase once(it is very scary and suffering, hell/instant die is better feel than the acute type). When you sleep well, actually many problem/symptom of eczema can be solved easily.
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I really understand the sudden itch. I still have it sometimes. It used to be really bad. I used to scratch so much. I hope you get to adjust your sleeping time and that your condition improves. i really hope so.
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QUOTE(maroondinasour @ Feb 23 2012, 11:38 AM)
I really understand the sudden itch. I still have it sometimes. It used to be really bad. I used to scratch so much. I hope you get to adjust your sleeping time and that your condition improves. i really hope so.
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Haha Thanks la, currently my condition improving already... All need to be done is get my lifestyle corrected, the root of cause for my acute response is eczema inflammation caused by insufficient sleep repititively(dulu me stubborn insist sleep late despite working at 8.30am)

Check my previous post in this thread, it is hell to me during acute response.
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If anybody needs a remedy that is chemical free, you can pm me. It's free to try..
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can u guys advise how u get melatonin? i've been trying to get but keep being told its banned in msia...any advise?
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Use supplement to replace:)
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just want to share wit u guys about this traditional bedak sejuk i take..it call tabloq..google it.

after first week use, my face is not dry and the redness almost gone d..plus my face is not oily like before..recommended to anyone who suffer saborheic dermatitis...worth to try..only rm5 per tablet.
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can u guys advise how u get melatonin? i've been trying to get but keep being told its banned in msia...any advise?
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Yeah, been trying to get that too but no luck.


Added on April 17, 2012, 11:59 amUpdate from February 2012:

I've been using Extra virgin olive oil on my skin since February 2012 til now and this is my take on it;

Pros
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1. Keeps the moisture in the skin for the whole day. (I put it twice a day)
2. Much lesser itching
3. Lighter scars on the body (from scratching before lol)
4. Feels light on the skin
5. Very easy to buy
6. No need to take any medication


Cons
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1. Might be a bit oily immediately after application, but this dries very fast (about 5-10mins)


So, far that's all that i could think.



This is my personal experience and i will continue using this as I believe going natural is the best solution for eczema. I hope it helps someone out there thumbup.gif


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Good to have strict diet as well. See which one is sensitive.

http://www.sharecare.com/question/what-die...ions-for-eczema
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Good to have strict diet as well. See which one is sensitive.

http://www.sharecare.com/question/what-die...ions-for-eczema
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Yes, very true. Diet is essential. I am currently taking cod liver oil capsules. However, i still haven't done an allergy test yet to eliminate all that i'm allergic to.
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Good. Too much of oil is also a bad thing on other organs. Just double check to make sure it is not overdose. Moderation is required. Don't just taruh.. taruh.. wink.gif

Go for check up on the essential readings like cholestrol, gli, etc. wink.gif

Life is truly complicating. wink.gif
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I've pretty much given on treatments.

When people ask me i just say, skin allergy.

My parents wasted so much money on medication for me.

Feels bad sad.gif
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QUOTE(extremepower @ Apr 19 2012, 05:25 PM)
Good. Too much of oil is also a bad thing on other organs. Just double check to make sure it is not overdose. Moderation is required. Don't just taruh.. taruh.. wink.gif

Go for check up on the essential readings like cholestrol, gli, etc. wink.gif

Life is truly complicating. wink.gif
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I've checked with a skin specialist, and olive oil is alright for the skin. I put twice a day (which is ok she says). But yes, too much of it might be a bit too much for the skin i guess....hehe smile.gif

And coincidentally, I just checked some of the important readings, and all are looking good so far smile.gif

Life might be complicated, but it's still very beautiful to just let it go away for a health problem. A lot of people here have helped me to understand my skin better and I really appreciate it smile.gif


QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Apr 19 2012, 07:32 PM)
I've pretty much given on treatments.

When people ask me i just say, skin allergy.

My parents wasted so much money on medication for me.

Feels bad sad.gif
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I understand how you feel. I've went to so many skin specialists and spent so much of money as well. Go through the thread and you might find simple solutions that you can practice at home to make your skin better. Don't worry too much about it (stress makes itching worse, seriously). But don't ever give up. There are a lot of us facing the same thing. Controlling is the key with eczema as there is no 100% permanent cure.

Best wishes smile.gif
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is your bed clean? maybe lots of stuff eh
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My gf have this problem too.
First the soap.
Second the food.
Third the bed. (if dirty can cause allergic rxn)
Forth the environment. (if too cold or hot also bad)
Fifth lack of protein. I just let her drink protein then her skin get better within 4 hours rclxms.gif

But of course she took injection at the hospital too.

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No, it's not. I clean it often. Now, the itch is very much lesser. Very controlled i'd say.


QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Apr 21 2012, 03:48 PM)
My gf have this problem too.
First the soap.
Second the food.
Third the bed. (if dirty can cause allergic rxn)
Forth the environment. (if too cold or hot also bad)
Fifth lack of protein. I just let her drink protein then her skin get better within 4 hours  rclxms.gif

But of course she took injection at the hospital too.
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I'm using Oilatum soap bar because it doesn't dry the skin. You can ask her to try it, see if it helps.

And do tell her not to get those injections, they're all steroid-based.
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Eczema problems seems to be getting more common nowadays. One of my friend, her baby girl, now two years old, was born with eczema! Really sympathise with my friend because the baby will cry even at night, because of itch.

I work in The Far Infrared Centre and would like to share what I have learnt from our holistic consultant, who operates a holistic treatment centre in KL (you can check out www.amazinghealthcaresolution.com) . I know there are many people trying to sell things through various threads in the forum. Yes, our centre do promote far infrared (just like skin specialist will advertise and promote their services etc). We are not a MLM company but one that truly believe in health through education, not medication.

If you will do a google search, you will discover that far infrared has been and still is being clinically researched in a few countries and also being used for treatments in some hospitals in Taiwan. In Malaysia, this non invasive therapy and how it benefits our health is relatively little known, hence at our centre, it is our mission to promote this knowledge, hence my visit to this forum.

First of all, a little on the TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) diagnosis on eczema. Eczema (and other allergies) is very much due to a weakness of the liver. The liver (together with other organs) governs more than 500 health functions of the body, including detox of toxins and pathogens, regulating hormones, strengthening immunity and so on. Therefore, when our liver suffers, we get into all sorts of troubles including eczema, migraine, menses problems, diabetes and so on. This is the root cause of eczema and that is why when we use creams, it helps only to control but after the effects are gone, eczema surfaces again.

Why is it sleeping early helps? Our body operates on a circadian rhythm. At 11.00pm - 1.00am, our liver is doing its job and we need to be asleep at this time for the liver to rejuvenate. When you are consistently sleeping past this time, you are hurting your liver. That is why in so many comments on this thread, sleeping early has helped the eczema condition. Young people must especially take care of their liver now by sleeping early to avoid more health problems.

There are also some who mention that going for acupuncture and ecoparadise helped. Yes, this is because both of these increases our liver strength by increasing our 'chi'. If you can find ways to effectively increase your 'chi', your liver will improve and so will your eczema!

For those considering steroid, this is harmful to your liver. Why do you suffer side effects? These 'side effects' are your body trying to detox from the poison the steroid brings to the body. Many suffer from all kinds of side effects for years, especially when they have taken steroid for polonged period. Steroids do not solve the root of your problem, it gives relief of your symptoms only (just like most medications do).

Talking about relief, it is better to use natural products, as mentioned in some posts, like coconut oil. Another good relief the holistic centre uses is peppermint oil combined with citrus extracts.

Yes, some also mention about stress. Stress brings about negative 'chi' to our body. If we are always stressed up, we will not have peace of mind nor peaceful sleep. Stress relief is arguably one of the most important factor to good health.

Why do we promote far infrared (FIR) therapy? Because FIR increases our 'chi' much like doing taichi, acupuncture(unblocks our meridians, removing pathogens) and Ecoparadise anti-oxidant (releasing negative ions and detox) materials. This in turns strengthens our liver and not only the liver, but the heart, lung and kidney as well.

What kind of FIR product do we recommend then? We recommend the FIR Tourmaline home sauna, which emits both FIR and negative ions (to combat free radicals). Why do we recommend this?

1. It goes to the root of our health problems
2. It is cost effective, as the whole family, from young to old, can use it
3. It is economical to use over a long period of time as you can actually reduce your medical bills and need for medications and supplements
4. It enables us to detox at the cellular level (our cells are laden with all kinds of toxins due to our unhealthy eating and lifestyle)
5. It enables us to de-stress

How has the results been so far on eczema problems? I think it is best for all you internet savvy people to do a google search "Far Infrared and eczema" to read for yourselves the clinical researches done in Japan. Meanwhile, closer home, you can check out our website :

www.the-far-infrared-centre.com


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Hi guys..
I know this is too late but i was wondering if i could get some volunteer who has chronic eczema and would like to try something non steroidal base. Yes there is no cure, but you can always reduce the flare occurrence:-)

im a pharmacist and ive recently started a pharmacy specifically for skin conditions in USJ 4.(www.skinpharmacy.com.my) Its something new in Malaysia but pharmacist specialising in certain diseases is quite common in overseas.

Along with that, i have also gone for a course to make skincare and cosmetics. now Im making things specifically for troubled skin. ( who says problematic skin cant use fancy nice skincare. i have eczema and psoriasis and my skincare is all awesomely coloured and nice fragrance! You just have to make sure the ingredients is ok)

So anyway; Ive just formulated a cream that has all 3 properties: Its moisturising, it has barrier that stops water from in to go out and a humectant that absorbs water from surrounding that should be used by troubled dry/ eczema skin to reduce flare. My active ingredient in the cream is (synthetic) urea (high dose) and unrefined shea butter.

Its a little bit more thick as compared to other creams but so far i've got some awesome reviews with min side effects. Most of my volunteers have been using strong steroids like clobetasone (Dermovate) and such. However, i need more people to try it out. Please let me know if you are interested or you think there is someone who you know might be interested. Its FREE!

If you have any enquiry or need any help for any kind of skin problems, im just a phone call away or pm me:-)



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QUOTE(shin gouki @ Dec 18 2011, 02:51 AM)
Any natural food which can stop inflammation other than steroid? Bcoz whn I have flare up nothing seems to work except steroid. I had full body eczema which always keep coming back on and off which has no end.

Using steroid on my face will cause redness so I try to refrain myself from using it as much as I could. My skin usually dry and flaky and I have to keep using moisturizer.

Now I need to be careful of eating sweet food. Even eating lot of rambutan will cause me to flare up

Anyone with helpful tips is much welcome
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My doctor uses Wholefruit Mangosteen Juice called Xangosteen to treat patients
who have skin problems like eczema, psoriasis,etc. , instead of giving steroids.

You can take advantage of his FREE consultation before you decide to use this product.
(To get FREE consultation, you can visit his clinic ( MON-FRI @ 10.30 am to 4.30pm )
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wow .. an old post i just search from google, read from some artical that ask me to stop using steroid for eczema.

once i stop, my eczema come again !! OMG ~ but i need to stop it, i don't want to feed my skin to eat steroid for my whole life.

now fighting with it ~ here are some good site to share with:

why we need to stop steroid

http://curethiswretcheddisease.tumblr.com/redskinsyndrome

info for eczema

http://www.potofgoldbalm.com.my/skinhealth/index.html

sharing is caring ~ thumbup.gif

3rd week for stop using steroid, my skin start to recover now... but i believe still need time.




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have you tried Truveno? I heard it works well for people with skin problems like Eczema and Psoriasis
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30+ male here. Been suffering eczema for 10 years plus. Scratching was so bad, skin infection is very common for me.

I find diet is quite important when it comes to eczema. This is purely anecdotal but I was in Turkey for 2 weeks and all I have for their Turkish style buffet breakfast is a lot of fresh fruits, cucumber and tomato, and other stuff like bread and eggs. Their food over there consist a lot of cucumber and tomato, dairy products and meat.

I find that my skin improved a lot. Probably nutrition and anti-dioxidant is important for eczema sufferers. When I came back to KL, I'm back to my crappy Chinese-stalls-theme-high-carb-high-fat-low-protein-low-vege-diet for lunch and dinner. My eczema returned with a vengeance.

The bread-and-butter cream I use is Benosone.
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Came across this post while searching for Malaysians with eczema. To my surprise I am glad to know I am not alone.

I am 21 and have been suffering from eczema my whole life. The one thing I realise currently is that steroid, or corticolsteroid is very bad for us. Yes I do know it helps, but in the past 3 months I took about 4 jabs (injections from the doctor) and almost a lifetime of steroid cream and now after stopping it for awhile I am going through a bad withdrawal symptom or red-skin symptom.

But thank goodness that I am home and away from my university for my Christmas break; here are a few tips to, not heal but relieve the itchyness and pain.


1. Keep clean. Bathe at least twice a day, I know for some eczema patients it hurts like hell, when water touches the skin, but you need to keep clean. Bathe like recommended with Oilatum or soft soap like Cetaphil. Always change your clothes. And try to keep from sweating

2. Keep cool. In Malaysia this is probably the hardest thing to do rclxub.gif but by keeping ourselves in an aircond room with approx 26 degree Celcius would help, or if there's none, a fan directly on you would help. Wear lose clothing, don't care much about style but on comfort.

3. Pantang! Depends on what you can and cannot eat, always try to pantang (Malay word for avoid at all costs) the food you can't eat. Like for me, I stay away from black fish, mutton, beef, lamb, mushrooms, nuts, shell fish, duck, brinjal, eggplant, and alcohol.

4. It goes without saying bu MOISTURISE! Always keep a moisturiser next to you.

Well I hope this helps, oh another thing is to stay hydrated all the time. Drink lots of water; you can add some lemon (or lime), with some mint and also some cucumber (or watermelon) to help keep you cool.

Still again, glad to know I am not alone. thumbup.gif
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Try using Grandpa's Pine Tar Soap. I heard it helps. Google around about the soap and you'll see what are the comments from others.

To get pine tar soap in Malaysia, you can visit www.mybeanbean.com.

Hope this helps.
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QUOTE(simonhtz @ Dec 1 2014, 03:20 PM)
30+ male here. Been suffering eczema for 10 years plus. Scratching was so bad, skin infection is very common for me.

I find diet is quite important when it comes to eczema. This is purely anecdotal but I was in Turkey for 2 weeks and all I have for their Turkish style buffet breakfast is a lot of fresh fruits, cucumber and tomato, and other stuff like bread and eggs. Their food over there consist a lot of cucumber and tomato, dairy products and meat.

I find that my skin improved a lot. Probably nutrition and anti-dioxidant is important for eczema sufferers. When I came back to KL, I'm back to my crappy Chinese-stalls-theme-high-carb-high-fat-low-protein-low-vege-diet for lunch and dinner. My eczema returned with a vengeance.

The bread-and-butter cream I use is Benosone.
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I agree.

The intake of sufficient water, more veg, fruits etc does wonders for your skin if you have a condition. Best way to treat this is to cleanse your system from within.

I know people who swear by this cream... I wouldnt know cause I dont use it myself... http://www.tcmrecipe.com/
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I struggled from bad eczema for close to 8 months last year.
The attack was intermittent and i had to apply steroid cream if it turn out too bad.
i tried many things but not sure what trigger it .. until i change my shower cream things i have not receive any eczema until now
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sometimes eczema is a problem arising from dry skin
i get rashes /eczema when i change my daily shower gel from Dove to other brands,
p/s Rosken lotion is a darn good moisturizer for dry skin.

Dove is indeed more pricy than other drugstore shower gels, but it does not dry out your skin.

When i stop using either one, my eczema returns.


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Before running out to buy commercial products, for mild rashes and mosquito bites, try table salt and a little water as a thick liquid. Some prefer sea salt. Resist rubbing and scratching for just a few minutes. Soon amazing relief without drugs and clean, just brush off excess dried salt. Might not work for everyone but little risk and costs near zero to try. For me it's more effective than antihistamine and cortico creams.
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QUOTE(keanpoh @ May 8 2015, 03:20 PM)
Try using Grandpa's Pine Tar Soap. I heard it helps. Google around about the soap and you'll see what are the comments from others.

To get pine tar soap in Malaysia, you can visit www.mybeanbean.com.

Hope this helps.
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Most people do not realise that eczema is a gut problem rather than a skin disorder. The skin problem appear as a symptom to the problem. Therefore fixing your diet is necessary to ensure that your eczema heals permanently.
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QUOTE(cjack3 @ Dec 13 2011, 09:15 PM)
Hi all. A close friend of mine is suffering from eczema. She does not like to use the steroid-based creams due to the side-effects that come with prolonged usages. Currently she is keeping watch on what she eats and using some other cream like aloe vera cream. Is there any good methods to treat or at least suppress eczema?

I read online that some cream called TriCeram is good for eczema, but is it available in Malaysia?
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My friend 9 year old daughter are suffering from eczema too. Especially during hot day and it's getting worse during last year haze. But the daughter condition improved a lot after 1 test. My friend knew which supplement and food are exactly suitable for his daughter. Without any medication to the daughter, he already can feel the difference.
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I don't know if anyone of you heard of a company named Melaleuca? They have a series of products (hair shampoo, body shampoo, bath oil, and body lotion) that can improve dry skin problem or eczema.

Actually, I love their products very much, because most of the ingredients of their products are extracted from natural resources so they won't cause any issue to to us in the long-run. And all their products are 60 days money back guarantee, so if they don't work for you, you can just ask for refund!

If you are interested you can PM me, I can send you some details on the products. Hope this will help. smile.gif
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I suffer from eczema for more than 10 years + ....

Got well from 10+ years old but it came back again in 20+ years old till now ...

hand is itch so bad and fully crack until recent company boss asked me to seek treatment ...


so what the doctor recommend me ...

1) took antihistamine every morning, doctor recommend twice a day but I got too drowsy to drive so I only take once a day

2) Apply Pinetarsol Gel after bath every day, apply to you hand, leave for 2-3 minutes and then wash it

3) Apply Ego QV Cream daily

4) Apply the cream (forget the name) when the crack returned but few days a month compared to daily last time


it still get itchy but at least my hand are so much better, there is a week or 2 than it wasn't crack at all
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1) Yogurt
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It is recommended you go for a food allergy test with your doctor to find out whether is it food or environmental factors which is causing your eczema.

I got very sick when I cut out many essential food and in the end I found that I was not allergic to any of them.

My eczema was not improving. Only after the food allergy test that I found out that my skin condition was due to environmental factors.

Need to moisturise the skin after bath and constantly applying lotion throughout the day.
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Hello!!! two years ago I was diagnosed with Eczema! The treatment that has worked the best for me is Foderma. I recommend it.
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Hello!!! two years ago I was diagnosed with Eczema! The treatment that has worked the best for me is Foderma. I recommend it.
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how long have you been using Foderma?

where can i get? guardian? watson?
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you can't cure eczema completely but you can stop the process with UF light lamp for instance
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how long have you been using Foderma?

where can i get? guardian? watson?
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Yo! It's been a while!

There's 4 active eczema support groups in FB at the moment. Among those 4, I recommend 2 & 1 of it which I was promoted to admin for 1 of it due to my contribution. If you wanna join, let me know & I'll approve your requests immediately.

Skincare is only the 3rd step in eczema management, you need to learn the 1st step (heal your guts) & 2nd step (regulate your immune system). Those 2 are very important to put your eczema under control.
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i try Psocream (phytomedicare psoriasis) and charms baby fig soap..got better.
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My father have tried various method till now the problem still there. Seek traditional, skin doctor, go temple recommended by ppl.

He even went to see Wong Skin at Tangkak but his condition still same.
Doctor said allergie to detergent after done the test. He still scratch his whole body.

Two weeks ago ppl recommand "niu zhe shui" at least he no feel itchy.
Feedback from ppl who drank this liquid ... can gain fat and u will feel very energetic.
When my mum asked her friend, this liquid already intro among themselve more than 5 years ago and mostly consume by individual age late 40 and above. Advice my dad not to drink but he said itchy that time, apply lotion/cream also cannot control.

My father still apply Pinetarsol then Rosken lotion after bath.
From my father feedback, for body wash, he said Avene brand suit for his skin at least his skin not dry.



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my brother has eczema he bought UV lamp
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I used foderma serum as directed for few weeks and haven't had the rash.
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Hi all, I have eczema and was prescribed Elidel cream (pimecrolimus) by the doctor. But I have decided to use natural products like essential oil. If anyone is on this cream and would like to get a new tube at discounted price let me know. My email is [email protected]
Thanks.
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my daughter got eczema too. she use pinetarsol for bath earlier on and now using sebamed. for cream she use ceradine. if turn bad and crack the no choice she use steroid cream to control and once better will switch to ceradine.
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my personal experience of eczema is due to allergy. its gone, but i started to drink fresh milk quite frequently (due to gym) then a patch of red skin appear on my legs. thoughts it was fungus. but pharmacist says its due to allergy that cause this eczema, so i have to find out myself what diet intake that trigger this.
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QUOTE(calapia @ Apr 17 2018, 10:47 AM)
my daughter got eczema too. she use pinetarsol for bath earlier on and now using sebamed. for cream she use ceradine. if turn bad and crack the no choice she use steroid cream to control and once better will switch to ceradine.
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Steroid doesn't control, it suppressed the immune system temporarily. If the triggers is still there, it'll flare up again or if she get in contact with the triggers again, it'll flare up. The key is to identify the triggers & avoid them like a plague.
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Hi All,
My friend who has been suffering eczema since young had tried this natural eczema cream recently. It did show wonders!
Not only that it has stopped the itchiness on skin and keep it moisturize, but her scars also have recovered!
She has been looking for steroid-free solution since she has been applied too much of it. That's why she search and got this solution. rclxms.gif


https://greenherbology.com/product/eczelief...-healing-cream/
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Personally, I used steroid cream when it flares up. After the skin recovers, I used this product on the area to control it:
https://moogoo.my/irritable-skin-balm.html

The product I used has another name where I bought it in Australia, but I checked the ingredients they are the same. Nowadays I only use baby body wash tho, last time I used some soap it flares up again.
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QUOTE(calapia @ Apr 17 2018, 10:47 AM)
my daughter got eczema too. she use pinetarsol for bath earlier on and now using sebamed. for cream she use ceradine. if turn bad and crack the no choice she use steroid cream to control and once better will switch to ceradine.
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My advice is to ask your daughters to stop using the steroid cream. It'll thin out your daughter's skin and this is irreversible. I used it for long term also because of my eczema, and now my skin is very thin around the areas affected by eczema, so it tends to gets flaky easily with any twist in your skin eg squeezing pimple or blackheads, then it'll turn red because the outer skin has peeled off.

My advice is find the trigger for it to flare up, and try to control from there. Steroid cream won't solve the problem but only provide relief for the time being, with a side effect that will be permanent
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Pinetarsol might provide relief
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QUOTE(KoChun1 @ Jun 18 2018, 11:09 PM)
How long have your daughter been having this condition?
Your post is in April. Have you found the trigger?
Steroid cream won't work?!!
You may be right about trigger.
In your experience what was the trigger/s ?
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hm... steroid only control....and i try not to put steriod... i told my wife to get one day bring my girl to do allergy test.... but wierd...small that time she ok....now big girl only have this problem....
her bath soaps all is sensitive skin one like pinetarsol... sebamed.....
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A lot of friends had eczema and cured after using Young Living Essential Oils.

Mix Lavender + Purification + Frankincense into roller bottle and apply on the affected area or can make body butter to apply whole body.

Can get here> https://www.facebook.com/remedionwellness/
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QUOTE(NelsonBoy @ Dec 21 2011, 08:36 PM)
pls do not attempt to treat yourself.

look for KO Skin specialist in Klang.

I got my eczema cured within 2 weeks with medication ( antibio + cream )


Added on December 21, 2011, 8:40 pmpls do not attempt to treat yourself.

look for KO Skin specialist in Klang.

I got my eczema cured within 2 weeks with medication ( antibio + cream )
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jun 20 2018, 06:18 PM)
A lot of friends had eczema and cured after using Young Living Essential Oils.

Mix Lavender + Purification + Frankincense into roller bottle and apply on the affected area or can make body butter to apply whole body.

Can get here> https://www.facebook.com/remedionwellness/
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Yes, i'm using essential oil for skin issue and it helps. I have some sample handmade ezcema cream, let me know if you want to try.
You can join my monthly group buy too.

 

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