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post Dec 7 2011, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(tashfinsheikh @ Dec 7 2011, 02:59 PM)
bro thats where you think it is wrong,

the first list was sent to me after 1 month, that one month between that we were not in contact, we got in contact on 23rd Nov

After that he gave me 244 games list and said he won't sell 60 games from that

and on 27th I said lets COD that night and he didn't and said he busy and said tomorrow night we COD and tomorrow whole day he didn't talked to me and I was waiting for his reply.

and in that period 27~29 he sold 3 games....

if he thinks he reserved for me, then why did he sold them ?  icon_rolleyes.gif
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err.. correct me if im wrong, i thought in 1 of the snapshot here show that both of u claimed online but never speak/reply on each other..
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post Dec 7 2011, 04:57 PM

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Stop Twisting around again & again.... Look again on what you said... stop pointing to other places again.

Pls take a look on the below pics, I wan't to prove to everyone. He didn't even give an official confirmation he wants to take every games available b4 the 1st time we COD, he always said will come back to me, will revert to me at night. Pls take a very closer look on what I said, & what I've answer, again pls, the very last time (I beg everyone's help to catch this cunning man), I hope everyone can see it, since he never confirm, why I can't sell the 3 games? Then he suddenly said I confirm to COD on Tuesday nite (29th November), did I? I even asked a question back, did I?

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From the below 2 pics, just within minutes, from "the rest are 2 or 3", then "the rest", what you mean by the rest? (This ady prove that you like to twist & turn, within a minute you ady twist & turn once), you fully understand that I want to sell it in bulk, if I come on the 3rd December, I will bring everything come at once. For you to avoid buying the rest, you insist to COD on 29th November, instead of 3rd December, by giving the reasons "you wanna start the bizz immediately", & "the bank limit".

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I mentioned the "game + cards", I didn't use the words "the rest", or "game + others", or "game + acc"... Very very clear, I even mentioned 1 with cards, another without, not like ur example DLC or DLC(s), whatever, stop creating stupid example, your example suits you, coz u never say things clearly (when you've intention to cheat, a cheater always say things twist & turn, not clear, that's commonsense).

This post has been edited by Frogcat: Dec 7 2011, 05:21 PM
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post Dec 7 2011, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(cloudstrifes @ Dec 7 2011, 02:55 PM)
hi bro juz an opinion, i not sure whether did he(frog) reserve for him(tash) or not, but promise is promise, u said RESERVED then u shuldn't sell it out... and wat do u think when u asked to reserve things from someone, and this someone sold it out to someone else?
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sorry bro, i have experience where people asking me to reserve something for them, then i said ok, after 1 month, he told me that he got it from someone else... so, i don't see any problem with bro frog if he sold it to other people, where the buyer has yet to confirm to buy or not to buy... i have personal experience, not to mention one of my friend actually offered me a higher price for the thing i'm selling, but that buyer confirmed that he will buy from me, so i reserved it from him, no offence, just sharing my experience.

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post Dec 7 2011, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(Frogcat @ Dec 7 2011, 04:57 PM)
Stop Twisting around again & again.... Look again on what you said... stop pointing to other places again.

Pls take a look on the below pics, I wan't to prove to everyone. He didn't even give an official confirmation he wants to take every games available b4 the 1st time we COD, he always said will come back to me, will revert to me at night. Pls take a very closer look on what I said, & what I've answer, again pls, the very last time (I beg everyone's help to catch this cunning man), I hope everyone can see it, since he never confirm, why I can't sell the 3 games? Then he suddenly said I confirm to COD on Tuesday nite (29th November), did I? I even asked a question back, did I?

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From the below 2 pics, just within minutes, from "the rest are 2 or 3", then "the rest", what you mean by the rest? (This ady prove that you like to twist & turn, within a minute you ady twist & turn once), you fully understand that I want to sell it in bulk, if I come on the 3rd December, I will bring everything come at once. For you to avoid buying the rest, you insist to COD on 29th November, instead of 3rd December, by giving the reasons "you wanna start the bizz immediately", & "the bank limit".

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I mentioned the "game + cards", I didn't use the words "the rest", or "game + others", or "game + acc"... Very very clear, I even mentioned 1 with cards, another without, not like ur example DLC or DLC(s), whatever, stop creating stupid example, your example suits you, coz u never say things clearly (when you've intention to cheat, a cheater always say things twist & turn, not clear, that's commonsense).
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I don't get one thing where did tashfinshekh agreed that he'll but the rest 34 games from you.
You didn't confirm first & sold 3 games after that you come back & confirm laugh.gif ?


And tashfinsheikh can you upload the game list he provided you so we can know did he removed the games or not.
Bcz he said he removed games bcz some of them got scratches (correct me If i am wrong but isn't black games rented out?) So how he suddenly came up with these games have scratches?

rclxub.gif It's not a fkk case at all, it's like Frogcat thinks tashfinsheikh will buy all games & tashfinsheikh don't want to buy more games anymore.
There is no need of discussion bcz its not a case at all.

This post has been edited by Zeeraq: Dec 7 2011, 05:39 PM
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post Dec 7 2011, 05:47 PM

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I also dun get whats problem with Frogcat(from what he show to us according to post#83 snapscreen pics)
come on man,if you havent make any confimation,then whats wrong with ppl(frogcat) going to sell his games?
and this is not the main point we want to talk here....am i wrong to say like this unsure.gif ?

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post Dec 7 2011, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Zeeraq @ Dec 7 2011, 05:38 PM)
I don't get one thing where did tashfinshekh agreed that he'll but the rest 34 games from you.
You didn't confirm first & sold 3 games after that you come back & confirm laugh.gif ?
And tashfinsheikh can you upload the game list he provided you so we can know did he removed the games or not.
Bcz he said he removed games bcz some of them got scratches (correct me If i am wrong but isn't black games rented out?) So how he suddenly came up with these games have scratches?

rclxub.gif It's not a fkk case at all, it's like Frogcat thinks tashfinsheikh will buy all games & tashfinsheikh don't want to buy more games anymore.
There is no need of discussion bcz its not a case at all.
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Bro, pls take a look on the time when he chose 25 games, that's 4 something on 29th November, the no confirmation pics I uploaded was within 27th - 29th November, b4 4pm. Pls bro, by saying the words on top, you are indirectly giving chance to this cunning man to create more confusion to the public (I'm not angry about you or blaming on you, just we need to be very careful & aware when we deal with a cunning man).

He ady uploaded bro, pls check every pages & read everything b4 asking a question, this fella twist & turn for several days ady, & I'm so tired to handle him case by case, until now, he don't even admit he has the intention to ffk or cheat, even I pointed out with evidences, & even some frens here saw it too, by just reading & analyzing.

I also explained clearly to the scratches bro, if he don't mind, I can sell it to him, I've cleared every new stories he created so far, with evidences & sincere.

The most important thing is, he didn't respond to the public's questions, but keep creating new stories, pin point on new topics, & he can't prove that I've ill-manner, he can't prove that I force him to buy every games, that's the topic bro.

This post has been edited by Frogcat: Dec 7 2011, 06:00 PM
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post Dec 7 2011, 05:59 PM

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the topic is that the seller forcing the buyer to buy the games...but from all the conversation i've read, the buyer did agreed to buy everything, until he realized that the EoJ doesn't come with full acc, then he said he doesn't want to buy any games that he already owns... and about the 3 games sold, there's nothing wrong with it...coz the buyer hasn't confirm to buy yet... it's up to the seller to sell it or to reserve it to the buyer...
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post Dec 7 2011, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(Frogcat @ Dec 7 2011, 05:53 PM)
Bro, pls take a look on the time when he chose 25 games, that's 4 something on 29th November, the no confirmation pics I uploaded was within 27th - 29th November, b4 4pm. Pls bro, by saying the words on top, you are indirectly giving chance to this cunning man to create more confusion to the public (I'm not angry about you or blaming on you, just we need to be very careful & aware when we deal with a cunning man).

He ady uploaded bro, pls check every pages & read everything b4 asking a question, this fella twist & turn for several days ady, & I'm so tired to handle him case by case, until now, he don't even admit he has the intention to ffk or cheat, even I pointed out with evidences, & even some frens here saw it too, by just readying & analyzing.

The most important thing is, he didn't respond to the public's questions, but keep creating new stories, pin point on new topics, & he can't prove that I've ill-manner, he can't prove that I force him to buy every games, that's the topic bro.
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The thing is that If a killer is accused if murdering & the case is going on You can't say him a Killer or any offensive words bcz it has yet to be proven.

The first Complaint : You really used bad words against him that I saw in the Conversation so the ill-manered part is correct.( I really hate bad words )

The second Complaint : You want him to buy your games until now (c'mon man you don't have any self-respect) you don't need to sell your game to him there are Thousands of other buyers who'll buy them.

There is not a case at all, This whole issue is a waste of time .
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post Dec 7 2011, 06:08 PM

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I said to him to bold out those games that includes acc, but he did not

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so , why didn't he bolded them out ? he agreed to bold them ?

so I thought every RM80 games will be with Acc cuz he said himself
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QUOTE(Zeeraq @ Dec 7 2011, 05:38 PM)
I don't get one thing where did tashfinshekh agreed that he'll but the rest 34 games from you.
You didn't confirm first & sold 3 games after that you come back & confirm laugh.gif ?
And tashfinsheikh can you upload the game list he provided you so we can know did he removed the games or not.
Bcz he said he removed games bcz some of them got scratches (correct me If i am wrong but isn't black games rented out?) So how he suddenly came up with these games have scratches?

rclxub.gif It's not a fkk case at all, it's like Frogcat thinks tashfinsheikh will buy all games & tashfinsheikh don't want to buy more games anymore.
There is no need of discussion bcz its not a case at all.
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That's the problem, the deal was to take ALL in several batches. Refer to 5th pic posted by Frogcat. 29/11/2011 4.25 to 4.26 pm.

29/11/2011 4:24:39PM, tashfinsheikh mentioned the rest 2 or 3. This means he only intended to buy about 28 games from Frogcat at the time, breaking the T&C in the first place. Frogcat proceeded with the deal probably because he missed the "rest 2 or 3" part and assumed tashfinsheikh was going to take other 34 titles.

Frogcat gave a total discount of RM500 for the 25 games. Since the agreement for discount is the buyer must take ALL, tashfinsheikh technically owes Frogcat RM500. If deduct 2 games for the EOJ issue, it's RM340. If tashfinsheikh does not buy the rest 34 titles as agreed, it's a FFK case.

And since when people can't sell something before an agreement is made? Plus Frogcat did send a message to confirm on 27th night, it was tashfinsheikh who did not confirm, plus he told Frogcat they agreed to COD when THEY DID NOT.
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QUOTE(Zeeraq @ Dec 7 2011, 06:05 PM)
The first Complaint : You really used bad words against him that I saw in the Conversation so the ill-manered part is correct.( I really hate bad words )
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THIS IS NONSENSE...HERE,WE ARE NOT THE BOTHSIDE,MANY THINGS CAN BE HAPPENED,BECAUSE OF THIS KIND OF THING MEAN THATS U CAN CLASSIFIED EVERYONE LIKE THAT?OMG.... whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Ace98 @ Dec 7 2011, 05:17 PM)

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sorry bro, i have experience where people asking me to reserve something for them, then i said ok, after 1 month, he told me that he got it from someone else... so, i don't see any problem with bro frog if he sold it to other people, where the buyer has yet to confirm to buy or not to buy... i have personal experience, not to mention one of my friend actually offered me a higher price for the thing i'm selling, but that buyer confirmed that he will buy from me, so i reserved it from him, no offence, just sharing my experience.
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I don't get what you are trying to say but let me try.

So you are saying, someone wants to buy from you and asked you to reserve, but after 1 month later, he told you he already bought it from another person. In other, he ffk you? And you are OK with it.
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QUOTE(valkyrie5034 @ Dec 7 2011, 06:16 PM)
That's the problem, the deal was to take ALL in several batches. Refer to 5th pic posted by Frogcat. 29/11/2011 4.25 to 4.26 pm.

29/11/2011 4:24:39PM, tashfinsheikh mentioned the rest 2 or 3. This means he only intended to buy about 28 games from Frogcat at the time, breaking the T&C in the first place. Frogcat proceeded with the deal probably because he missed the "rest 2 or 3" part and assumed tashfinsheikh was going to take other 34 titles.

Frogcat gave a total discount of RM500 for the 25 games. Since the agreement for discount is the buyer must take ALL, tashfinsheikh technically owes Frogcat RM500. If deduct 2 games for the EOJ issue, it's RM340. If tashfinsheikh does not buy the rest 34 titles as agreed, it's a FFK case.

And since when people can't sell something before an agreement is made? Plus Frogcat did send a message to confirm on 27th night, it was tashfinsheikh who did not confirm, plus he told Frogcat they agreed to COD when THEY DID NOT.
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Its' Frogcat fault for assuming he'll buy the rest 34 games When tashfinsheikh clearly states 2 or 3 games.

Since when did he gave him the original price so you can say the discount is RM 500 + I you read the whole conversation you can see Frogcat stated that he'll give discount to everyone who'll buy from him in batches.

When did i say that he was wrong for selling those 3 games? Can you plz tell me which message?

And in the whole conversation where did Frogcat stated that the discount was RM500 for buying in bulk? How do you know this that no one knows here I think even tashfinsheikh doesn't know it.
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QUOTE(noruazumi @ Dec 7 2011, 06:23 PM)
I don't get what you are trying to say but let me try.

So you are saying, someone wants to buy from you and asked you to reserve, but after 1 month later, he told you he already bought it from another person. In other, he ffk you? And you are OK with it.
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yes, he FFK me, it's not that i'm OK with it, it's just that, i choose to not creating any troubles...
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QUOTE(Zeeraq @ Dec 7 2011, 06:05 PM)
The thing is that If a killer is accused if murdering & the case is going on You can't say him a Killer or any offensive words bcz it has yet to be proven.

The first Complaint : You really used bad words against him that I saw in the Conversation so the ill-manered part is correct.( I really hate bad words )

The second Complaint : You want him to buy your games until now (c'mon man you don't have any self-respect) you don't need to sell your game to him there are Thousands of other buyers who'll buy them.

There is not a case at all, This whole issue is a waste of time .
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Bro, I show evidences man, to clear what he complaint, I answered every questions man, but he didn't, y I can't call him cheater? Which I prove he's a cheater?

I didn't want him to buy my games now, I just prove to the public that, I didn't sell or hide any games I promise to him, by saying this over here, pls bro, do you think this fella still gonna get those games from me? His intention is to ffk in the beginning, can't you see it?

By talking about the games in the list, is because he wants me to exchange it to others games, which is not fair to me, if he wants to exchange, then he should grab those under 1st batch, clear?
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QUOTE(AhYap @ Dec 7 2011, 06:20 PM)
THIS IS NONSENSE...HERE,WE ARE NOT THE BOTHSIDE,MANY THINGS CAN BE HAPPENED,BECAUSE OF THIS KIND OF THING MEAN THATS U CAN CLASSIFIED EVERYONE LIKE THAT?OMG.... whistling.gif
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Well he used offensive words, Is "go to hell"not an offensive word? Threatening to open fkk two or three times is not considered offensive?
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QUOTE(Frogcat @ Dec 7 2011, 06:26 PM)
Bro, I show evidences man, to clear what he complaint, I answered every questions man, but he didn't, y I can't call him cheater? Which I prove he's a cheater?

I didn't want him to buy my games now, I just prove to the public that, I didn't sell or hide any games I promise to him, by saying this over here, pls bro, do you think this fella still gonna get those games from me? His intention is to ffk in the beginning, can't you see it?

By talking about the games in the list, is because he wants me to exchange it to others games, which is not fair to me, if he wants to exchange, then he should grab those under 1st batch, clear?
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how did you proved that I cheated

Answer this 2 questions

Did you took some games out of the list after our 1st COD ?

Did you provided me any acc for EOJ ? any ?

so who is cheating here ?


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QUOTE(Zeeraq @ Dec 7 2011, 06:25 PM)
Its' Frogcat fault for assuming he'll buy the rest 34 games When tashfinsheikh clearly states 2 or 3 games.

Since when did he gave him the original price so you can say the discount is RM 500 + I you read the whole conversation you can see Frogcat stated that he'll give discount to everyone who'll buy from him in batches.

When did i say that he was wrong for selling those 3 games? Can you plz tell me which message?

And in the whole conversation where did Frogcat stated that the discount was RM500 for buying in bulk? How do you know this that no one knows here I think even tashfinsheikh doesn't know it.
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well I would like you to prove it that he provided me RM500 discount biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Ace98 @ Dec 7 2011, 06:25 PM)
yes, he FFK me, it's not that i'm OK with it, it's just that, i choose to not creating any troubles...
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The games weren't even reserved for 1 day & you think the games were reserved for 1 month(Frogcat himself said the games weren't reserved).

Well by the way bro how are you FFK'ed here bcz its no a case of you in the first place.
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QUOTE(tashfinsheikh @ Dec 7 2011, 06:28 PM)
how did you proved that I cheated

Answer this 2 questions

Did you took some games out of the list after our 1st COD ?

Did you provided me any acc for EOJ ? any ?

so who is cheating here ?


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well I would like you to prove it that he provided me RM500 discount  biggrin.gif
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ok, you're talking about EoJ acc again, which i really think you're trying to cause more confusion. i'm not on Bro Frog's side, but seriously, drop the EoJ topic already, even i can understand what Bro Frog trying to tell, and this topic is not about EoJ, and you keep whining about it... seriously, i'm not sure about other forumers, but it annoys me... just stick to the topic, which is he's forcing you to buy games... and Ill-mannered...


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QUOTE(Zeeraq @ Dec 7 2011, 06:31 PM)
The games weren't even reserved for 1 day & you think the games were reserved for 1 month(Frogcat himself said the games weren't reserved).

Well by the way bro how are you FFK'ed here bcz its no a case of you in the first place.
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dude, you dont understand my point is it? i'm not saying i've been FFK here, i'm just sharing my experience that i'm being FFK'ed by someone before... Bro Frog didn't reserved it, before Bro Tash didn't confirmed what he's buying... so it's not bro Frog's fault, unless u're telling me, about bro Tash decided to buy everything, and confirmed already, then bro Frog sold those games, then it's bro Frog's fault.

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QUOTE(Zeeraq @ Dec 7 2011, 06:28 PM)
Well he used offensive words, Is "go to hell"not an offensive word? Threatening to open fkk two or three times is not considered offensive?
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"Go to hell" for sure I will say it, but to such cunning person only, that's it, I've been CHEATED, not you. Not from the beginning I start talking shit or something, maybe you are too good when u face such person, still talk nicely? If yes, I respect, I'm not like you, I've temper as well.

To threaten him about open ffk thread, is because we know each other, we even play games together, I want to give him chance, he still young, by doing this, end up his name will become bad, that's all.

You know why I said his name will become bad? Cause I have evidences, he don't, he keep twisted here & there, & bro if you have read the whole thing, can't you see from the beginning he said 2 or 3, then after a minute become the rest? Then I keep saying whole batch? Can't you analyse? From the way he handle this case, from the start until now, can't you see he keep creating new stories? Why he don't handle case by case, but keep avoiding? & why he never answer all questions asked by the public? Why?

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