Stop Twisting around again & again.... Look again on what you said... stop pointing to other places again.

Pls take a look on the below pics, I wan't to prove to everyone. He didn't even give an official confirmation he wants to take every games available b4 the 1st time we COD, he always said will come back to me, will revert to me at night. Pls take a very closer look on what I said, & what I've answer, again pls, the very last time (I beg everyone's help to catch this cunning man), I hope everyone can see it, since he never confirm, why I can't sell the 3 games? Then he suddenly said I confirm to COD on Tuesday nite (29th November), did I? I even asked a question back, did I?

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From the below 2 pics, just within minutes, from "the rest are 2 or 3", then "the rest", what you mean by the rest? (This ady prove that you like to twist & turn, within a minute you ady twist & turn once), you fully understand that I want to sell it in bulk, if I come on the 3rd December, I will bring everything come at once. For you to avoid buying the rest, you insist to COD on 29th November, instead of 3rd December, by giving the reasons "you wanna start the bizz immediately", & "the bank limit".

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I mentioned the "game + cards", I didn't use the words "the rest", or "game + others", or "game + acc"... Very very clear, I even mentioned 1 with cards, another without, not like ur example DLC or DLC(s), whatever, stop creating stupid example, your example suits you, coz u never say things clearly (when you've intention to cheat, a cheater always say things twist & turn, not clear, that's commonsense).

Bro, pls take a look on the time when he chose 25 games, that's 4 something on 29th November, the no confirmation pics I uploaded was within 27th - 29th November, b4 4pm. Pls bro, by saying the words on top, you are indirectly giving chance to this cunning man to create more confusion to the public (I'm not angry about you or blaming on you, just we need to be very careful & aware when we deal with a cunning man).

He ady uploaded bro, pls check every pages & read everything b4 asking a question, this fella twist & turn for several days ady, & I'm so tired to handle him case by case, until now, he don't even admit he has the intention to ffk or cheat, even I pointed out with evidences, & even some frens here saw it too, by just readying & analyzing.

The most important thing is, he didn't respond to the public's questions, but keep creating new stories, pin point on new topics, & he can't prove that I've ill-manner, he can't prove that I force him to buy every games, that's the topic bro.

That's the problem, the deal was to take ALL in several batches. Refer to 5th pic posted by Frogcat. 29/11/2011 4.25 to 4.26 pm.

29/11/2011 4:24:39PM, tashfinsheikh mentioned the rest 2 or 3. This means he only intended to buy about 28 games from Frogcat at the time, breaking the T&C in the first place. Frogcat proceeded with the deal probably because he missed the "rest 2 or 3" part and assumed tashfinsheikh was going to take other 34 titles.

Frogcat gave a total discount of RM500 for the 25 games. Since the agreement for discount is the buyer must take ALL, tashfinsheikh technically owes Frogcat RM500. If deduct 2 games for the EOJ issue, it's RM340. If tashfinsheikh does not buy the rest 34 titles as agreed, it's a FFK case.

And since when people can't sell something before an agreement is made? Plus Frogcat did send a message to confirm on 27th night, it was tashfinsheikh who did not confirm, plus he told Frogcat they agreed to COD when THEY DID NOT.

THIS IS NONSENSE...HERE,WE ARE NOT THE BOTHSIDE,MANY THINGS CAN BE HAPPENED,BECAUSE OF THIS KIND OF THING MEAN THATS U CAN CLASSIFIED EVERYONE LIKE THAT?OMG....

yes, he FFK me, it's not that i'm OK with it, it's just that, i choose to not creating any troubles...

ok, you're talking about EoJ acc again, which i really think you're trying to cause more confusion. i'm not on Bro Frog's side, but seriously, drop the EoJ topic already, even i can understand what Bro Frog trying to tell, and this topic is not about EoJ, and you keep whining about it... seriously, i'm not sure about other forumers, but it annoys me... just stick to the topic, which is he's forcing you to buy games... and Ill-mannered...

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Added on December 7, 2011, 6:36 pm

dude, you dont understand my point is it? i'm not saying i've been FFK here, i'm just sharing my experience that i'm being FFK'ed by someone before... Bro Frog didn't reserved it, before Bro Tash didn't confirmed what he's buying... so it's not bro Frog's fault, unless u're telling me, about bro Tash decided to buy everything, and confirmed already, then bro Frog sold those games, then it's bro Frog's fault.

why is the EoJ part of the case? It doesn't come with the acc in the first place. It the seller's fault for not clarifying that it doesnt come with acc, and it's the buyer's fault for not asking whether it comes with acc or not. Well, i didn't say anything about the Ill-mannered part, coz bro Frog really shouldn't use suck a harsh words, but then, i won't say he's ill-mannered because i use bad words once in a while too when i'm in a very bad mood. about  your point on second complaint, this whole case, is a very very  big misunderstanding.

Guys, lets just leave them a bit awhile. Can see that we all also may have slightly different understanding of the MSN conversation. Communication is only 20% words so there are many perceptions when one says this and another say that going on. every line of it has an assumption going on in Tash & Frog's head.

b00n has already stated his piece 

And again I reiterate, let Tash state what he really wants since he started this topic and see if got any settlement. If nothing happens further, this thread will be closed and we can all go back watching our regular channels     

After I've proven so many evidences, you still talk about this?

I've answered to those ady, can't you read english properly?

OK, I WILL ANSWER YOU AGAIN RIGHT NOW, WITH ALL CAPS (PLS READ PROPERLY):~

THOSE I TOOK AWAY I ADY ANSWERED THERE'S SCRATCHES, IF YOU WANT IT, TAKE IT, DON'T TALK MUCH, I DIDN'T SELL IT AWAY, I TOOK THEM AWAY IS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD, COZ I DON'T WAN TO SELL SCRATCHES GAMES TO MY CUSTOMERS. (I SHOWED THE PROVE I WILL TAKE AWAY SCRATCHES GAMES AS WELL)

I DON'T PROVIDE ANY ACC FOR EOJ, I TOLD YOU 1 GAME WITH CARDS, ANOTHER WITHOUT, DON'T KEEP TALKING ABOUT ACC AGAIN & AGAIN, I DIDN'T SAID THE GAME COMES WITH ANY ACC.

NOW, IS YOUR TIME TO ANSWER EVERY QUESTIONS, BE A GENTLEMAN, DON'T KEEP AVOIDING.

I will stop from here Moderator b00n, let's see what he gonna create any further....

& to bro Zeeraq, you are not in my situation, so stop talking like you know everything by just looking at post 75, thanks.

I apologize if I assumed wrongly but to me, Frogcat said he will give a RM20 discount for each title if buyer takes more than 10 & ALL the batches. If I interpret it wrongly, again I apologize for my mistake.

How this incident occured is actually very simple, it was due to tashfinsheikh's failure to understand Frogcat's terms that he has to take all the games, not pick the ones he wants. If tashfinsheikh had known they could not deal if he only wants to buy some of them, would this issue happen? I would say this was caused by tashfinsheikh's carelessness and he should admit his mistake and just apologize to Frogcat.

If however tashfinsheikh had understood Frogcat's terms and still proceeded with dealing with him, then this would be a scam (which I hope not). As he tricked Frogcat into dealing by saying he agreed to COD on Tuesday when he actually did not. In any case, I hope you two can work something out and settle this case nicely.

pls look at the pics again, ts clearly stated n agreed to buy the rest of the games at a later date...........n ts shuld hav understand that he must buy all the titles to b offered dat kind of price...........its clearly stated at seller's thread

wat u say is u agreed to buy all the games at rm60 each, but u oni cn withdraw rm1.5k on dat day, so u take 25 games first n ask the seller to deliver it to u immediately, n when the seller asked u if u stil will buy the remaining 34 games cos rm60 is the price he gave if u buy all 54 titles, u clearly said yes n when he double comfirm wif u again u again said yes u will buy the remaining games at a later date............

I don't see how "every1 who get it in bulk, will get RM60 each" saying how many titles you are supposed to buy to entitle for RM60 discount each.

His PM to you however did say ALL AT ONCE, total of 25 games now. He later updated his list to 59 in total. Which means you are supposed to take 59 in total to get RM60 for each title.



Please don't drag this any further and make yourself look like sore loser, just admit your mistake that you were careless and did not read Frogcat's terms properly.
Otherwise, I only see this as a scam to trick Frogcat to sell some of his titles to you at a cheaper rate.

I give up reasoning with you guys. OK, my mistake for misinterpretation or whatever, I lose.

He's giving you a discount of Rm20 for god's sake! for that EOJ flat at 60 instead of RM80



So now, you still have to buy the rest of his games (NOT the 25 games you've bought) based on the agreement that both of you had

well.......after seeing those pics again, this is juz a big misunderstanding ,

ts, u actualy wanted to buy oni 28 games at first, n u wanted to buy 25 games first n immediately bcos u hav limit, n u told seller u wan buy 2 or 3 more after dat, but seller din get dat sentence, instead seller asked u if u wan the remaining 34 games, but in fact u jz wan 2 or 3 more games, but u din clarify it to the seller n misquote it as u wan the remaining 34 games, n the seller assumes u wan the remaining 34 games, n when the seller double comfirm wif u wether u wan the remaining 34 games, u again tell him 'yes' but actualy u oni wanted to tell him u wan 2 or 3 more games out of the 34 games..........

so the seller reserved all 34 games for u n removed it off his thread...............

dis is jz a big misunderstanding, but dun blame the seller, cos he hav every right to be angry since he reserved it for u..........

the seller is partly wrong for nt getting ur sentence, but u r oso wrong cos u din clarify it wif him even when he asked u the second time.........

so nex time when u deal, pls read every terms n sentence corectly........dun leave out anything.......

That fella didn't keep his promise, he's consider ffk, you report or not is up to you. But my case is diff, I'm not selling just 50PSN or 20PSN, my games are all diff titles, some can sell higher price, is not all like you said 2006 or 2010 thing, some you need to value the price by regions, like Region 2 Japan sure at higher price, look at what he bought from me, No More Heroes (R2 - J), that one if you buy Region 1 or 2 in used, is around RM80 or above, if Region 2 Japan, then RM100 or higher, now I'm offering him all with RM60, exclude those regions matter, ok?

My rare games can sell it at higher price, even RM70, still higher then RM60, your price of your card won't goes down much, & won't goes up high, tat's totally diff stories.

I pointed many evidences & he keep avoiding (obviously), that's y I call him a cunning man by not answering to the public, if I cannot say that then I'm sorry, I will apologizes If I need to, but pls stick back to what he shd answer.

I'm pretty sure Staff b00n & Staff Nairud understand the whole story ady, I won't show any further evidences like the "Cricket Game" he pointed out again, will make more ppl blur, but I can assure that, if this is the last evidence I need to show, I can tell to the public, The Cricket Game was not in the 1st batch, I specially offer to sell him bcoz he's going to get the whole list, I can prove tat he still twist & turn.

Bro Zeerag & bro mezzi-quan,

Pls go back to this 1st, the very 1st sentence (in case both of you miss out), He wants everything, then I tell him to buy it bulk by bulk (not title by title), that's my T&C always, pls aware on the date & time as well.



I will accept Staff nairud advise like below, not urs, as your advise is for Tash good only, I don't want to talk further, he accept it, I'm ok, this is win win situation.

To tell you the truth, I've inquired and from my observation you 2 both had a communication gap.
After I grilled him, my observation is he does indeed had a problem communicating well. But then again, some times we can't fault the other party for it. So like I say, let it rest. Just give him the EOJ cards then forget about this whole big misunderstanding. That's my advise.

I can accept this offer as well, but I will get few frens to COD with him, & make sure there's more then enough witnesses to confirm I pass him 1 deck with a total of 34 (proper & original) cards, & will voice recording everything down in front of him, & his parents...

Yes I will, & thanks for the concern about this case bro... 

Both of you can't read english is't? Like father & son huh? I bring them along as witnesses, you bring your parents along also rite? Ain't they your witness?