Where is the acc (so called) clearly stated Acc in your document , and I checked your rental thread there

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Added on December 4, 2011, 9:58 pmI used this pic as reference in what I should get :



and everywhere people are selling the whole package , never saw anyone selling a game that cannot be played without the acc

Now you're picking from what he wrote later in this dispute topic.
However did you or did he mentioned about accessories in the 1st conversation?

You also asked about cards only, never asked about acc.

I think there's a very big misunderstanding going on here.

You assume that it will come with acc and Frog assumed that he had told you the game only came with cards. As I do not know EOJ, from that conversation I would assume Frog had already told you what is included when it's RM80 there and you had agreed.

Thus like I say, is there anyone neutral out there which understands the standard package of EOJ?

Thats why I admitted it and I am willing to pay RM40 for the acc 

Even when I agreed to buy everything that night he still sold 3 titles to people

http://s779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/ta...rrent=Pic12.jpg

Here is an example of our conversation for those who haven't read the whole part.

Customer : I want to buy Assassin's Creed 2 + DLC, inFamous 2 + DLC, Fifa 12, Battlefield 3

Seller : I have Assassins Creed 2 + DLC and inFamous 2 available

Customer : I want to pay for Assassins Creed 2 + DLC for inFamous 2 I will buy it after several days

Seller : It is for xxx

Customer : Will it include the dlc

Seller : yeap it will include the dlc , xxx with dlc and this is the price without dlc xxx

Customer : Ok , lets deal, I want the dlc one

Seller and Customer dealt and seller gives customer the game

After that

Customer : Where's the DLC

Seller : I forgot to include the dlc, i will include it with our next deal,

Customer : Assassin's Creed 2 comes with 2 DLC , I thought it comes with both DLC's not 1

Seller : for xxx do you think I am a fool to give you both dlc

Customer : But you didn't stated that it was one dlc only, I asked if it comes with dlc you gave me 2 prices , 1 with dlc, the other without dlc

Seller : OK, pay for inFamous 2 and I will minus some of the cost from AC2 from inFamous 2

Customer : but I wanted the DLC ? without it how can I play the game properly ?

Seller : You should pay for inFamous 2 or I open a fkk thread on you

Customer : Solve my first issue after that I will buy inFamous 2 from you next week , I thought I could buy it from you this week but I got some personal issues so I will buy it later next week.

Seller : You said you will buy inFamous 2 , go to hell, i will open an fkk thread on you

Customer : I said please resolve my first matter first then we will deal with the 2nd one but after this

The customer feel offended : He wrote several offended words to me, why should I buy from an Ill-mannered guy

Seller :
Lets do this , I give you the 1 dlc this week
but you have to buy inFamous 2 next week Monday or I will report you to fkk thread.

Customer : I don't agree with your rules, why is it always you pointing out the rules and forcing me to buy inFamous 2 when I want to solve AC2 issue first, and I will from now on won't buy anything from you.

Seller : you are a young jerk & cunner

Customer : Ok, go ahead and report me

Seller : This is the first step :
"Guys beware a young cunner & cheater PSN game seller is here cheating everyone" or something like that , I quoted him but our post got deleted.

Buyer : You took the first step I will take the next step and I will take the 2nd step and open a thread on you.

Buyer open a thread that he is Ill-Mannered and forcing me to buy inFamous 2 from him....

Buyer even asked him to solve the issue : like refund the money and take back his game... (He rejected)

The seller comes and say that you should buy inFamous 2 and started giving evidence that the buyer agreed to buy inFamous 2 and completely ignoring the first issue.

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And for some questions :

First of all we agreed to COD at 27th night, but he was busy so he pospone the COD date to 28th

and that whole day he was busy selling his games to some other people, if he thought that I bought all the games than how come he still selling games ?

2nd I didn't agreed to buy 59 games from him, he just said 59 were available and I said these 25 I want to buy now, the rest are 2 or 3 that I will buy tomorrow

I didn't said anywhere that I will buy 34 games from him

and during the COD he was suppose to bring the whole acc or deck and clarify me at the COD location but instead he said he forgot to bring it and he will give it to me later so I thought he forgot to bring the whole set.....

Third : if he thinks I agree to buy all games, why didn't he wrote on his topic that all games are reserved for me ? and kept on selling and removing some games from the list ?

4th : If he thinks I bought all games from him, than he broke the promise and took some games out of the list and there our agreement was destroyed.

5th : He said to me , "Go to Hell" and "I dun care how ur mom thinks" and "now ur parents overseas, so funny" and "ur a jerk & i dun like cunning jerk"

and he wrote : if I want to sell this in sets, I edi pull out and sell it" so this clearly states that he had cheating intention on me and was not willing to sell all his games to me, if he finds a better offer than me he can sell it to them and if he cannot than he sells to me ?

Uploading the evidence's....

If you have read the whole conversation that's the summary.

So if anyone can buy from an Ill-Mannered guy like him, so please come to me , I will also insult you, your parents, and then force you to buy games from me and threaten you to open fkk thread.....

Some pics as proof :


here it shows :


that I said I will buy the rest 2 or 3 games after several days (so called batch 2nd)


and one more thing : kindly read the whole conversation.

and He is always trying to force me to accept his T&C so that "I will chose the games I want was a counter attack for him taking out Cricket games"

and for Eye of Judgement , I will clarify it today after a while

Buy everything thing was void canceled , as soon as he said that I cannot sell everything at 1 shot, so whats the point ?

and if he was intended to sell everything to me, why did he sold several of his games to other people ?

hi bro juz an opinion, i not sure whether did he(frog) reserve for him(tash) or not, but promise is promise, u said RESERVED then u shuldn't sell it out... and wat do u think when u asked to reserve things from someone, and this someone sold it out to someone else?

I don't get what you are trying to say but let me try.

So you are saying, someone wants to buy from you and asked you to reserve, but after 1 month later, he told you he already bought it from another person. In other, he ffk you? And you are OK with it.

how did you proved that I cheated

Answer this 2 questions

Did you took some games out of the list after our 1st COD ?

Did you provided me any acc for EOJ ? any ?

so who is cheating here ?

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Added on December 7, 2011, 6:29 pm
well I would like you to prove it that he provided me RM500 discount 

The games weren't even reserved for 1 day & you think the games were reserved for 1 month(Frogcat himself said the games weren't reserved).

Well by the way bro how are you FFK'ed here bcz its no a case of you in the first place.

This is getting interesting, while Frog insisted that Tash confirmed in buying everything, you are now saying Tash didn't confirmed what he's buying.

As like I've said earlier, these whole deal and conversations were confusing. Seriously, just try to read the whole conversations more than one time with open mind, I am pretty sure by the time you finish reading them each time, you will have different thoughts.

At least that is what I feel. I'm not trying to side anyone here, but it is sooo obvious that both parties failed to establish common agreement and understanding. That is why one keep on saying this, and another keep on saying that even tho both provided evidence that justify their statement.

And for that reason, that is why I would not call this as FFK case, this is more to F**K-UP case. Both parties are at fault and both need to admit that and stop this nonsense. Talk to each other and discuss properly. If you want some settlements, discuss it! Stop pointing fingers at each other when another finger points back at you.

Bro EOJ is part of the case aswell.

That's what I'm saying Frog didn't reserve it neither did TS confirm it, So why now Frog want TS to buy more games from him ?

The first complaint was of Ill-mannered: If you see post 75 you can see bad word & almost in every post here he wrote cunning jerk so he is Ill-mannered.

The second Complaint was Forcing to buy game : Frog still wants to sell the game & TS have cancelled it already so how can he still insist him to buy game when there is no order to begin with?