Pls show the evidence, & I will show everything to prove u wrong, go ahead.

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Added on December 3, 2011, 2:47 pmFinish creating the story ady? Once done pls highlight, my turn next.

This post has been edited by Frogcat: Dec 3 2011, 02:47 PM

Alright, as promise, I uploaded tons of prove for the public to judge, pls allow me to explain on what bro tashfinsheikh complaint in the 1st place (with screen capture).

Screen capture from what he complaint
Picture 1


Picture 2


Picture 3


Picture 4


Start from here, every screen shot I captured from MSN history, green box = tashfinsheikh, red box = Frogcat, with simple explanation.

About The Eye Of Judgment


Follow by the 25 titles


Support pictures, taken from his rental thread (3 pics).


This post has been edited by Frogcat: Dec 4 2011, 04:59 AM

Conversation between me & him, I try to cut it short, I'm happy if everyone can read everything, else just read those highlighted color box (3 pics).


From here onwards, I won't provide any explanation, read & judge by yourself, y I said he's a cheating & lying to me at the same time, even from the start of our deal (5 pics).


If anyone need me to provide any further information, pls do so, I still can provide plenty, let's just wait for what bro tashfinsheikh gonna explain 1st.

This post has been edited by Frogcat: Dec 4 2011, 05:07 AM

If you read, you will notice he always give reason when he need to grab everything at once, & in the end, he said the magic word, "I won't get those I'm not interested with", the ffk intention was there, clear enough, he just use methods to push it away.

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Added on December 4, 2011, 10:12 amCause this is our understanding, for giving him RM60 each, he need to grab everything available at once, by bulk, & he promise to do that, not I insist him to.

If you read the evidence, that's very clear stated.

This post has been edited by Frogcat: Dec 4 2011, 10:12 AM

Show everything transparent, why have to deal thru PM or email? If you have any evidence to prove u rite, show it (as in your 1st post, you said you gonna show it, why scare now?)

You still stick with the EOJ full set thing, & avoid to answer why u don't want to get the 2nd batch, even I said I wan to come to ur house to COD with u, u still gave excuses like money is with your father, whatever you wan to explain, show the evidence you promise to the public 1st, don't talk further & try to redirect ppl to other places.

I still have many evidence in hand, you still pretend, I won't give face any further..... 1st, stand out & face me like a man, show your so called evidence, like I agree to give whole set of EOJ but i didn't, show it.

Rude behavior? I wonder will anyone still talk nicely to the person who cheated him, pls don't talk nonsense & prove with your evidences.

I'm so glad someone willing to read everything I uploaded, thanks bro...

Nope, I did mention tat 1 game with cards, another without, & I didn't stated the game come with anything, just games, if with acc, I will stated clearly, I practice to state everything clearly, as anyone can check on my rental thread, the info I provided, is the most completed at lowyat (for PS3 rental thread, to compare to other ppl who provide this services), I'm proud to say that.

He can always ask, tat's nothing wrong to check & confirm with me, he asked whether it come with cards, I answered clearly, I can say no & keep the cards, & he can tell me since only come with cards, he decided just skip this 2 titles, nothing wrong, & I will understand as well.

Another thing, when he complaint about EOJ not getting extra acc, I agreed to let him exchange with other games, & why he insist just to exchange the game, & not getting the so called 2nd batch (which actually the 1st batch) at the same time? Why so many excuses? Mother, Father, Money, Places... bla bla bla...

I did told him upfront as well, some of the game will be more then RM60, I will upload this pic 1st (pls check spoiler), will prepare more conversation between us later. This pic, I mentioned some games will be slightly higher, like ea sports active, cause the game come with acc.... new ppl sell at RM125 (R3), used I'm not sure, but definitely not RM60. EOJ if anyone still can find in the market, standard & original price will be RM300 (R1), some fried till very high, I sold 1 used set to 1 customer at RM180 this year. I saw ppl selling RM150 too, I even bought RM300 with some extra cards with everything in used b4, I have witness on this transaction as well. & now this fella come & try to buy it for RM60, & hope to get everything, there's no conversation break down between us, I can assure that by showing more evidences too (if someone willing to read), to prove that he don't read properly, that's why I have to keep mention everything again & again at MSN, just to remind him.



Ok, I told everything upfront & yet he wants the cards, so I said RM80, nothing wrong, he don't even care & insist to get it at RM60, & I give him for free, I'm quite a generous man I can say.

Oh ya, another thing, I uploaded quite many evidences & he don't even have one, why?

I don't know what kind of evidence is this, you point that arrow to EA Sports Active, I just put the title, without stated anything means just selling the game, & I did mention again to you that some might be higher price, for sure you will ask why when I quote you, & I have to answer right? If I quote RM80, surely come with acc, if not, RM60, ofcoz u can check with me again about the acc, & skip this title if without any acc, fair enough.

Pls don't point something which won't help to support what you try to prove & complaint, go back to the EOJ related statement & point out my mistake, that should be the way.



You don't understand english is't? I meant I don't wan to bargain further coz of that extra RM20, which mean pretty clear that I'm gonna give you the cards for free.



Again what you trying to prove on this? The red color EOJ? Or the black color EOJ? If the red, I don't want to sell that, clear enough. If the black, just the title, as I din stated with ACC or any shit in there.



You are putting yourself in deep shit by pointed this out. Means you disagree in the beginning but yet u said you agree, so... your cheating intention in the 1st place stated clear enough.



I will put another ???? on this, what you trying to prove? Don't you have any stronger evidence? If you don't have pls admit you cheated & try to ffk me on the 2nd batch deal, don't pretend any further & this will kill yourself even faster, cause you are dishonest, you are a cheater yet no balls to admit, you even launch a dispute report on me 1st when u done something wrong, what kind of attitude & personality you have?

Yes, I'm extremely rude to such person like you, for sure, I believe everyone will do the same.

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Added on December 5, 2011, 1:40 amHey, you keep saying you want to buy from me yet you keep delaying, do you remember when you start saying that? & do you know how long I keep waiting until you bought the 1st batch? I have more evidences to prove on this man, don't create more things to put yourself in deep shit, I'm so happy you point another issue out now.

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Added on December 5, 2011, 1:44 amYou are extremely right bro, & thanks for reading the whole thing..... I have another prove with receipt that I bought this title & just the game only.

Receipt prove


This post has been edited by Frogcat: Dec 5 2011, 02:11 AM

I'm talking about EA Sports Active, not EOJ man. EA Sports Active new selling at RM125 (R3), if I sell used at RM80, still reasonable. EOJ new selling at RM300 or higher, you expect me to sell the used set at RM80? Pls think, & could you pls pls pls pls read properly at least once?

Let ppl see how childish & cunning you are & I'm not gonna argue again with the words mentioned above, I will clarify with this quote only....

I'm selling so many titles to you, should I list down every titles & put (game only) beside every titles? I bought the game from PA bcoz they are selling whole set & just the game only as option, so the receipt stated game only nothing wrong.

From now, pls answer to the public that why you agree to buy in the beginning & you disagree with lots of reason later, don't come & repeat stupid answer that I'm not exchange the EOJ with other games, which I prove I will change it as well.... ANSWER WHY TO THE PUBLIC, WHY YOU DISAGREE WITH REASONS IN LATER STAGE.

P.S. Pls handle this case with profession, because you started the report & complaint not me, & stop crying like a kid now, I won't let you run away so easily.

This post has been edited by Frogcat: Dec 5 2011, 09:11 AM

AKAKAKAKA, pls allowed me to laugh on what you just wrote just now. I will answer & show to the public why I sell some of the games away.

Our very 1st PM about this deal (5 pics).
Picture 1


Picture 2


Picture 3 (End Of Picture 2 & Begin Of Picture 4)


Picture 4


Picture 5


Then we start adding each other on MSN.

Dear friends, I guess I've done more then enough to prove what I should, pls help what you can, I spent so much time to highlight, capture, explain bcoz he launched this report 1st, I just want to protect my name that's all, I won't answer & wasting my time any further, until I have to, thanks for your reading & support.

This post has been edited by Frogcat: Dec 5 2011, 12:42 PM

Pls allowed me to answer this question bro.

You can set the max withdraw per day to 5k, but the max withdraw each time is 1.5k, so... you can withdraw 3 times with 1.5k, & the 4th time with 500.

When he said 1.5k limit that time, I already have doubts, as that 1st batch actually come with 59 titles, x60 each will be RM3540, but I understand that he's also a seller so possible he ady withdrawn more then 3k during that day, that's why I agree to deal with 25 titles 1st..

Could you pls keep it simple & nice? 95 pics you expect ppl to read it all? Even myself click until the 5th also feel wasting time ady.

Pls point out where I pressurizing, where's my bad.

Are you trying to do something which make ppl from tiring to help this case?

A complete set of EOJ come with 1 Mat, 1 Stand, 1 PS Eye, 1 Game & 1 set of Cards (Booster Pack) with 34 cards in total.

Point this out with evidence & I believe you can't, cause I never said that.

Like Ace98 & valkyrie5034 bro said, your options only base on your own good, & until now, you don't even willing to answer & take responsible on the rest of the 1st batch, which u did promise to get it on the next day, or on the Sat (3rd December).

If you want to solve this & cut off these crap, do it in a win win situation, you return me the games, & you buy those games under 1st batch, that's it. Or else, like you mentioned above you don't want to deal with me, then why still talk about those options?

The most important part is, YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWER TO THE PUBLIC, ARE YOU GONNA BUY THE 1ST BATCH AS PROMISE?

Pls, you agree since 1 month ago & never even set a date for COD, means no confirm dealing yet, so I still can sell. & suddenly you come to me & said I confirm to COD with you on Tuesday, look at the pic, I even feel surprised & ask "I said today?".

& guys, look at the pic, can understand that I keep update him with my latest game list, I've sent few times of up to date game list to him, from 244 titles, until the latest, until I sold him the very 1st 25 titles.

Pls look at the time 3:44:29PM & 3:44:39PM, what I wrote?

Then look at time 3:44:59PM, what I wrote?

Bro, very easy & stated clearly, he wants to exchange, I agree to exchange, but I just wants him to be fair, fulfill what he has agreed earlier, that's it, but.... seems like he's pushing away what he need to answer to the public, & keep pointing at new things, which doesn't help much you see...

If he refuse to buy the so called 2nd batch (which actually the 1st batch), I'm fine, but I'm not gonna exchange the games for him, that's fair, & we can close case, & everyone will know he broke the promise not me, I'm fine with that as well.

But you look at the way he talk, can he talk nicely? Or will he ask his whole family to come & talk, nicely? Or come & argue again? Actually we all know the answer, he won't talk nicely, he won't settle things in win win situation, he just wants to exchange the games that's it, so.... best is I don't want to waste my time on him, I can close case at anytime, & I'm not desperate to sell him, I can go on with my business still.

I just want to clear my name, bcoz he launched the report in the 1st place, & yet don't want to answer what he shd, & I've answered every questions asked by all frens over here, with strong evidences to support.

Lastly, pls take a look on how ppl complaint about him, he can't even communicate well, I've problem with that as well, when face to face.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2135790

This post has been edited by Frogcat: Dec 5 2011, 08:47 PM

Thanks bro for reading the whole thing. Pls allowed me to pin point on the words "game Tash did not own" follow by the documents he uploaded on Post #19, under the file Game_List_4.doc, & we judge on the titles with blue color, with his rental & used games selling thread:~

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2129122 (Rental Thread)


http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1901721 (Used Games Thread)


We compare what he has in his list, with the game with blue color in the document. I highlighted those he has in this list with Green color, by doing this, I want the public to know that, his words cannot be trusted. What he has in the list are Bioshock 2, Darksiders & Transformers - War For Cybertron only, compare to the 30 games below.

Army Of Two - The 40 Days
Bionic Commando
Bioshock 2
Blitz - The League II
Burnout Paradise
Darksiders
D I C K Marcinko - Rogue Warrior (2 copies)
Eat Lead - The Return Of Matt Hazard
F.E.A.R. 2 - Project Origin
FarCry 2
Ferrari Challenge - Trofeo Pirelli
Fuel
Kane & Lynch 2 - Dog Days
MAG
Merceneries 2
ModNation Racers
MX Vs ATV Reflex
Need For Speed Undercover
Prince Of Persia - The Forgotten Sands
Pure Football
Saint Row 2
Soul Calibur IV
Stormrise
Superstars V8 Racing
Transformers - War For Cybertron
Truth Or Lies - Someone Will Get Caught
Virtua Fighter 5
Warhawk
World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010

And pls come back to the very last MSN history that I uploaded, pls take a closer look on what he said "i will buy, and after this one, and the game i'm interested in" & "the games i already have, i won't take it".

MSN History


Based on "i will buy, and after this one, and the game i'm interested in", prove that from the beginning he ady try to cheat me, as he promised to get everything return from customers.

Based on "the games i already have, i won't take it", prove that he's a cheater as well, the list above, he has 3 titles only, how about the rest? how about the 27 games remaining? (because he started a rental thread, don't tell me the 27 games he has it & didn't list out in the thread, that's ridiculous, if he dare to say that).

The CHEATING INTENTION, already there, he admitted & there's no any misunderstanding. Therefore, all frens here pls don't let him redirect anyone of you to any directions anymore, he launched a report by saying I'm an ill-manner seller, & when I answered & prove nothing wrong on my side, & started to counter back, he avoided everything bad of him, showed rubbish evidences, avoided to answer what he shd, keep showing new things to make everyone confuse.

By saying this, I hope the public aware of 1 very important thing, I won't say he is an untrustworthy seller, but I can assure that, he's an untrustworthy buyer / person. Pls label him as that.

This post has been edited by Frogcat: Dec 6 2011, 08:20 AM

I gave chances to you so many times, & you still want to play right? Good, let's play the very last one, after this, the whole public deserve an explanation from your side, & stop creating new stories, face everyone like a Guy, or Gal, or whatever you are.

1st of all, I would like to upload & show to the public what I've told him upfront again, & with his respond as well.


Next I will give an solid answer base on the game list so called he checked properly & questioning. The title he complain missing were:~

1) Beat Sketch! (R2 - J)
2) Dynasty Warriors - Strikeforce (R1)
3) Fist Of The North Star - Ken's Rage (R2)
4) Hokuto Musou (R3 - J)
5) Lost Planet 2 (R3)
6) No More Heroes - Heroes' Paradise (R2)
The 6 titles above having scratches, if he wants it, I'm happily to sell those to him. (Don't come & tell me coz there's scratches so you wan to buy it with special price, I rather keep & let my lovely cat sit on it.)

7) MAG (R3) <-- There's 2 copies in the 3rd list, but I can't find the 2nd copy, so I altered it become one, & he didn't point it out. (Did he really check?)
8) NBA 2K10 (R3) <-- This is my bad, I miss this out in that list, the game still with me. (He can get it on the 2nd batch no problem)

9) Sports Champion (R3) <-- Pls look at the spoiler below. (If he still gonna buy the 2nd batch, I will give it to him still.)


10) Tears To Tiara (R2 - J) <-- Pls look at the spoiler below. (He bought it, even list in his thread, talking nonsense now.)


This post has been edited by Frogcat: Dec 6 2011, 06:13 PM

Thanks for the reminder bro, this guy seriously wants to confuse everyone including me & luckily you bring this out.

Ok, just stick to the Game List doc 3, there's actually 57 games, so -25 to what he bought, there should be 32 left (which in blue color), those games still with me, condition good or not is not the issue now, I confirm I didn't sell it off.

So to quickly settle this, if he willing to grab the 32 left, I'm willing to exchange 2 of it with EOJ. If he still giving excuses, then I'm 100% clear my point, Moderators pls come & stop this fella from trying to confuse everyone further, he didn't answer any single questions to the public up to date, & is my time to launch another report on him, regarding cheating, & ffking....

I think my report shd be simple & nice (as many ppl know the story ady), & he doesn't have much to counter with, as to be fair to me, I patiently handle every questions asked, & my name was there & stated as Ill-Manner seller for few days, what do you think bro? If he gets a Dispute Tag or list his name under the ffk thread, I won't launch a report then.

Let's see how's his respond 1st, if tomorrow before 23:30pm (7th December, 2011), he still:~

1) Talking Nonsense (like he's not gonna deal with me anymore, obviously & officially ffk me in front of everyone.)
2) Creating New Stories (redirect & avoid what he shd answer to the public)
3) Make Ppl Confuse Further (by showing rubbish evidence)

Then, I'm pretty sure I don't have to wait anymore, as he's the one with ill-manner not me.