Show everything transparent, why have to deal thru PM or email? If you have any evidence to prove u rite, show it (as in your 1st post, you said you gonna show it, why scare now?)

You still stick with the EOJ full set thing, & avoid to answer why u don't want to get the 2nd batch, even I said I wan to come to ur house to COD with u, u still gave excuses like money is with your father, whatever you wan to explain, show the evidence you promise to the public 1st, don't talk further & try to redirect ppl to other places.

I still have many evidence in hand, you still pretend, I won't give face any further..... 1st, stand out & face me like a man, show your so called evidence, like I agree to give whole set of EOJ but i didn't, show it.

Rude behavior? I wonder will anyone still talk nicely to the person who cheated him, pls don't talk nonsense & prove with your evidences.

Show everything transparent, why have to deal thru PM or email? If you have any evidence to prove u rite, show it (as in your 1st post, you said you gonna show it, why scare now?)

You still stick with the EOJ full set thing, & avoid to answer why u don't want to get the 2nd batch, even I said I wan to come to ur house to COD with u, u still gave excuses like money is with your father, whatever you wan to explain, show the evidence you promise to the public 1st, don't talk further & try to redirect ppl to other places.

I still have many evidence in hand, you still pretend, I won't give face any further..... 1st, stand out & face me like a man, show your so called evidence, like I agree to give whole set of EOJ but i didn't, show it.

Rude behavior? I wonder will anyone still talk nicely to the person who cheated him, pls don't talk nonsense & prove with your evidences.

my oppinion is

to TS (tashfinsheikh),
please stop involving your parents in this matter...
it's you who decide to make a deal with the seller(Frogcat)
even though the "offer" for whole bulk is made by seller

it's YOU who decide to make this deal...NOT your PARENTS..
and why after even seller offer to come to your house for COD the rest...
you still gave some other excuses?? if you honestly want to purchase the rest...why NOT??
and yahhh...if i'm the seller also i will be a little bit suspicious about your behaviour....
like you just wanted to take advantage saying that you want to purchase the whole bulk for a "interactive" price...
in fact you just wanted to buy some of the games....

and to Frogcat,
are those EOJ games you sell cames with the acc???
because i don't see any ANSWER about it...like TS requested
i only see 1 card or 2 card...
( sorry didn't know much about this games so i wouldn't know exactly what you guys talking about    )
if it didn't come with full acc...you SHOULD told him in the first place...
and i do encourage you to take TS mom and dad phone number....
yeah...it's "easier" to deal with fully grown up adult...

anyway hope you guys solve your problem
because what i see is this matter is pretty much SOLVEABLE..
unlike many case which involve scamming...
this just misunderstanding...

Pls post it here. No need to PM.

i do have another question....
have you ask seller to list out those 240+ games for you if you really wanted to purchase all???

by the way if rm60 is not a WOW price...
but still you willing to paid it???
it's you own FAULT actually to take those offer from seller...
NOT seller fault...
by the way let's wait for seller answer regarding those EOJ acc...

and if seller willing to screenshot every conversation between 2 of you...
why not you???TOO LONG you say???
haiyaa boy....
even me as 3rd party WILLING to read all those conversation posted by seller....
and this is what you reply....
seems that is NO POINT any of us(forummer) to HELP you....
because you didn't help yourself first.....

p/s:
geramnye aku...aku nak tolong boleh balas camni plak!!!
kang aku post something flare kang...
aku jugak kena balik 

I'm so glad someone willing to read everything I uploaded, thanks bro...

Nope, I did mention tat 1 game with cards, another without, & I didn't stated the game come with anything, just games, if with acc, I will stated clearly, I practice to state everything clearly, as anyone can check on my rental thread, the info I provided, is the most completed at lowyat (for PS3 rental thread, to compare to other ppl who provide this services), I'm proud to say that.

He can always ask, tat's nothing wrong to check & confirm with me, he asked whether it come with cards, I answered clearly, I can say no & keep the cards, & he can tell me since only come with cards, he decided just skip this 2 titles, nothing wrong, & I will understand as well.

Another thing, when he complaint about EOJ not getting extra acc, I agreed to let him exchange with other games, & why he insist just to exchange the game, & not getting the so called 2nd batch (which actually the 1st batch) at the same time? Why so many excuses? Mother, Father, Money, Places... bla bla bla...

I did told him upfront as well, some of the game will be more then RM60, I will upload this pic 1st (pls check spoiler), will prepare more conversation between us later. This pic, I mentioned some games will be slightly higher, like ea sports active, cause the game come with acc.... new ppl sell at RM125 (R3), used I'm not sure, but definitely not RM60. EOJ if anyone still can find in the market, standard & original price will be RM300 (R1), some fried till very high, I sold 1 used set to 1 customer at RM180 this year. I saw ppl selling RM150 too, I even bought RM300 with some extra cards with everything in used b4, I have witness on this transaction as well. & now this fella come & try to buy it for RM60, & hope to get everything, there's no conversation break down between us, I can assure that by showing more evidences too (if someone willing to read), to prove that he don't read properly, that's why I have to keep mention everything again & again at MSN, just to remind him.



Ok, I told everything upfront & yet he wants the cards, so I said RM80, nothing wrong, he don't even care & insist to get it at RM60, & I give him for free, I'm quite a generous man I can say.

Oh ya, another thing, I uploaded quite many evidences & he don't even have one, why?

I don't know what kind of evidence is this, you point that arrow to EA Sports Active, I just put the title, without stated anything means just selling the game, & I did mention again to you that some might be higher price, for sure you will ask why when I quote you, & I have to answer right? If I quote RM80, surely come with acc, if not, RM60, ofcoz u can check with me again about the acc, & skip this title if without any acc, fair enough.

Ok, I told everything upfront & yet he wants the cards, so I said RM80, nothing wrong, he don't even care & insist to get it at RM60, & I give him for free, I'm quite a generous man I can say.

You don't understand english is't? I meant I don't wan to bargain further coz of that extra RM20, which mean pretty clear that I'm gonna give you the cards for free.

Again what you trying to prove on this? The red color EOJ? Or the black color EOJ? If the red, I don't want to sell that, clear enough. If the black, just the title, as I din stated with ACC or any shit in there.

You are putting yourself in deep shit by pointed this out. Means you disagree in the beginning but yet u said you agree, so... your cheating intention in the 1st place stated clear enough.
I will put another ???? on this, what you trying to prove? Don't you have any stronger evidence? If you don't have pls admit you cheated & try to ffk me on the 2nd batch deal, don't pretend any further & this will kill yourself even faster, cause you are dishonest, you are a cheater yet no balls to admit, you even launch a dispute report on me 1st when u done something wrong, what kind of attitude & personality you have?

You are extremely right bro, & thanks for reading the whole thing..... I have another prove with receipt that I bought this title & just the game only. 

Receipt prove

Let ppl see how childish & cunning you are & I'm not gonna argue again with the words mentioned above, I will clarify with this quote only....

I'm selling so many titles to you, should I list down every titles & put (game only) beside every titles? I bought the game from PA bcoz they are selling whole set & just the game only as option, so the receipt stated game only nothing wrong.

From now, pls answer to the public that why you agree to buy in the beginning & you disagree with lots of reason later, don't come & repeat stupid answer that I'm not exchange the EOJ with others games, which I prove I will change it as well.... ANSWER WHY TO THE PUBLIC, WHY YOU DISAGREE WITH REASONS IN LATER STATE.

P.S. Pls handle this case with profession, because you started the report & complaint not me, & stop crying like a kid now, I won't let you run away so easily.

Could you pls keep it simple & nice? 95 pics you expect ppl to read it all? Even myself click until the 5th also feel wasting time ady. 

Pls point out where I pressurizing, where's my bad.

Are you trying to do something which make ppl from tiring to help this case?

What I read is this - Frog did mentioned RM80 is including "cards" not "accessories". But in no point of the conversation did any party brought up the inclusion of "mat" and "stand" which Tash is insisting. Thus like terryfu mentioned; someone well experienced in this game should gives an opinion what is the standard package of EOJ.

I don't know what kind of evidence is this, you point that arrow to EA Sports Active, I just put the title, without stated anything means just selling the game, & I did mention again to you that some might be higher price, for sure you will ask why when I quote you, & I have to answer right? If I quote RM80, surely come with acc, if not, RM60, ofcoz u can check with me again about the acc, & skip this title if without any acc, fair enough.

I think on both counts its a misunderstanding between Tash & Frog because of a missing acc.

Tash, sorry but people do sell games without acc. I seen in video game shops, they sell games like eye of judgement, rock band, guitar heroes, any playstation move, etc etc all without the accessories. So what constitutes a full set I can't really fault the seller for not sharing that because they dont know also sometimes whether got or maybe buyer already knew what he's buying. In this case perhaps you should have researched more on EOJ and clarify with Frog on this. As buyers we cannot assume that if someone list the game he or she will specify accessory at least not in this video games garage sales forums.

Example of EOJ I found on amazon.uk : http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eye-Judgment-Solus...23078657&sr=8-3

Of course got other EOJ sets sold by amazon.com and other places but fair to say got people / retailers sell this just the game disc alone.

Frog, all I can advise you is that maybe triple confirm with the buyer for games like this (tell them it does not come with this set or this accessory, etc). It would help better but then again can't really fault you because most of the LYN sellers here can hardly confirm with me CE contents .

Hey Tash can u help point out which part of the conversation that frog said he'll well both cards and acc for rm 80. All I Saw in this thread and ur 95 conversation pics that he said for cards only. Maybe my 4 eyes missed that out

If I may add something here...

Obviously, there were misunderstandings in this deal. One party thought he only wanted to buy some games that interest him, while another party thought he is going to sell everything all at one go. If you asked me now, logically, I will not buy 240+ games all at one. Plus they are all old games. Even if I wanted to buy the games to start rental business, I would prolly get 240+ copies of NEW games instead. That would give me a better business. And RM60 per copy isn't really a good price for 240+ copies of games. I bought one used copy of Black Ops for RM70.

And one thing that we should be considering here is that, there were no money exchange except for the games that already been purchased. There are no dispute in this case. Potential buyer stated that he is no longer interested in purchasing all the games as per seller understanding. I don't see any big deal with that. It is not that the buyer took all the games and didn't make any payment.

So, my suggestion is to close the case, and everyone should move on. Both are reputable seller/buyer here in LYN.

hmm... is the 3 titles included in the list of games that he's selling to you?

A complete set of EOJ come with 1 Mat, 1 Stand, 1 PS Eye, 1 Game & 1 set of Cards (Booster Pack) with 34 cards in total.
Point this out with evidence & I believe you can't, cause I never said that.
Like Ace98 & valkyrie5034 bro said, your options only base on your own good, & until now, you don't even willing to answer & take responsible on the rest of the 1st batch, which u did promise to get it on the next day, or on the Sat (3rd December).

If you want to solve this & cut off these crap, do it in a win win situation, you return me the games, & you buy those games under 1st batch, that's it. Or else, like you mentioned above you don't want to deal with me, then why still talk about those options?

The most important part is, YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWER TO THE PUBLIC, ARE YOU GONNA BUY THE 1ST BATCH AS PROMISE?
Pls, you agree since 1 month ago & never even set a date for COD, means no confirm dealing yet, so I still can sell. & suddenly you come to me & said I confirm to COD with you on Tuesday, look at the pic, I even feel surprised & ask "I said today?".

& guys, look at the pic, can understand that I keep update him with my latest game list, I've sent few times of up to date game list to him, from 244 titles, until the latest, until I sold him the very 1st 25 titles.