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post Dec 7 2011, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 7 2011, 06:35 PM)
Fine, you're cheap. But what about those who wants [b]choice in their accessories in terms of better quality and don't mind paying a little bit extra for that quality?[/B] SME here simple pass that responsibility and choice to third party accessories, in which a few of us have said, prefer something of a better quality than shoddy china-brand cases. It's like they forcing everyone to buy these shoddy china-brand cases, or look elsewhere (online, parallel importers) and be slaughtered by them. When it is their responsibility to bring in these first party accessories together with the phone at launch.
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Here we go again, back to square one.

Tell SME how many units of accessories you want and see if they layan?

Minority, like I said earlier. Doesn't justify in their business money making modal. Even if every person here (less than 100) would make that request, they might not layan, the figure simply is too small.

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post Dec 7 2011, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Dec 7 2011, 06:36 PM)
Well, keep harping then, to see if SME would see your point.

Good luck trying ya! Ganbatte! We all support you!

But just ranting in LYN won't be enough, bomb them with emails. Pester them about accessories everyday. Maybe someday, someday you get what you want, when Galaxy SXX is out.
RM2000 is not premium, when you have Vertu in the market.

Geez...  doh.gif
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So by your logic, if I buy Vertu, and Vertu doesn't bring in their first party accessories, I have to go look for silicone gel cases and shoddy TPU case then? Geez back to you.

I'm doing folks here a favor for enlightening them about the business practices of Samsung and their reluctance in bringing in their own stuff, and you're making light of it? Sometimes I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, talking to you people here.

If someday I do get Samsung to actually do what they're supposed to do and bring their stuff in, people like you also benefit what? You wanted choice, and me "harping on this" allows people like you more choice to choose from which accessory is good for your phone. Talk about contradiction, man.
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post Dec 7 2011, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 7 2011, 06:41 PM)
So by your logic, if I buy Vertu, and Vertu doesn't bring in their first party accessories, I have to go look for silicone gel cases and shoddy TPU case then? Geez back to you.
If you buy Vertu, they would be kind enough to include a nice case for you, which is NOT for sale. Just mark up another 50% over the case original price.

Being that rich, you wouldn't even bother. That's what called premium.

QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 7 2011, 06:41 PM)
I'm doing folks here a favor for enlightening them about the business practices of Samsung and their reluctance in bringing in their own stuff, and you're making light of it? Sometimes I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, talking to you people here.

If someday I do get Samsung to actually do what they're supposed to do and bring their stuff in, people like you also benefit what? You wanted choice, and me "harping on this" allows people like you more choice to choose from which accessory is good for your phone. Talk about contradiction, man.
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That's why I said, we support you!

We really do! Honest! Just hope Sammy dont cekik too much on us only. wink.gif
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post Dec 7 2011, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Dec 7 2011, 06:36 PM)
Well, keep harping then, to see if SME would see your point.

Good luck trying ya! Ganbatte! We all support you!

But just ranting in LYN won't be enough, bomb them with emails. Pester them about accessories everyday. Maybe someday, someday you get what you want, when Galaxy SXX is out.
RM2000 is not premium, when you have Vertu in the market.

Geez...  doh.gif
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mr stringfellow, if want to argue about original accessories ask samsung fella export to malaysia...
if they decide dont want to sell in here, another choice buy on ebay... we are consumer, they are seller or supplier, if supplier or seller dont want or not yet to sell any goods consumer want officially, what consumer can do?
so our choice buy at another source like ebay etc...
go email samsung malaysia and wait what they reply... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 7 2011, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Dec 7 2011, 06:40 PM)
Here we go again, back to square one.

Tell SME how many units of accessories you want and see if they layan?

Minority, like I said earlier. Doesn't justify in their business money making modal. Even if every person here (less than 100) would make that request, they might not layan, the figure simply is too small.
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Because everyone here are more than content getting their cases from China-brand products. People like you. Im trying to offer another option here. First party cases that aren't that expensive, less than RM100, but provides good quality than your typical China-brand cases.

All this because business is treated as that, business. Samsung wants people to like their brand, but treating their more affluent(more wiling to spend) customers badly by forcing them to buy their accessories online via third party means (Mobilefun, Clove) isn't gonna give a good impression, especially if those more affluent ones are switching from another brand or platform.

Imagine a potential switcher who plans to move from Apple's iOS device to Samsung's Android phone, and you ask them to get their own first party accessories somewhere else. It's like someone switching from a Japanese car to an intercontinental car like BMW or Mercedes, and the BMW/Mercedes dealer ask you to get your own car accessories someplace else instead of catering to these switchers. Lepas tu, kena marah pulak tu! Has the world gone mad?
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post Dec 7 2011, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 7 2011, 06:31 PM)
Sigh. Penat aku melayan mamat nih. That is third party battery la. What I'm talking about here are first party accessories from Samsung themselves. That battery is from Droidax. Samsung has no control whatsoever over the price of third party merchandises.doh.gif

So you're saying that is there is a China made 3rd party USB Kit and is cheaper, the majority of people will flock to it instead of the official USB Kit? Price > quality ?
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I admit, that was a bad example. How about a link from Clove itself? Usually UK price is higher than the rest, let's give it a benefits of doubt, ok?

After conversion, around RM270. Shipping to UK from Korea is farther, which eventually should cost more for the importer. If I'm seeing the same battery pack selling for RM339 here, it just doesn't justify the amount they are charging.

So my choice? I don't buy it. I might still bite, if it's below RM300.

There, SME lost another prospect customer and inventory remained the same. Doesn't look too good for their budget plan, I would say.

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Added on December 7, 2011, 7:00 pm
QUOTE(apisfires @ Dec 7 2011, 06:47 PM)
go email samsung malaysia and wait what they reply...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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If stringfellow write in, perhaps SME might layan his request to bring in 1x of each accessories that he wanted? thumbup.gif

Let's wait and hear from stringfellow on this.

I'm very curious how SME would price it. hmm.gif

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post Dec 7 2011, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Dec 7 2011, 06:46 PM)
If you buy Vertu, they would be kind enough to include a nice case for you, which is NOT for sale. Just mark up another 50% over the case original price.

Being that rich, you wouldn't even bother. That's what called premium.
That's why I said, we support you!

We really do! Honest! Just hope Sammy dont cekik too much on us only.  wink.gif
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Well, I guess your definition of premium and my definition of premium is different. I guess with all that I've achieved so far financially, my definition of premium here is still more inferior than yours. But funnily you buy cheap cases for your phones, while I look for more "premium" cases for my not-so-premium (by your definition, of course) phone. Weird eh? wink.gif

By the way, Vertu phones doesn't come with a case. If it does, it's third party. Again, the cheap case version you see being sold on eBay. Same argument again. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(apisfires @ Dec 7 2011, 06:47 PM)
mr stringfellow, if want to argue about original accessories ask samsung fella export to malaysia...
if they decide dont want to sell in here, another choice buy on ebay... we are consumer, they are seller or supplier, if supplier or seller dont want or not yet to sell any goods consumer want officially, what consumer can do?
so our choice buy at another source like ebay etc...
go email samsung malaysia and wait what they reply...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Already sent, waiting for response. What the consumer can do is ask them to bring it in. The problem with Malaysians is that they more willing to pass responsibilities to do things to others. Cannot get first party leather pouch? "Aiyah never mind lah, just get jelly2 case protect good enough" instead of questioning "why they didn't bring it in?". I can easily go the cheap jelly2 case route and be done with, but I look at my phones as premium products, and I don't protect premium products with subpar jelly2 China-brand cases. If the phone does drop or got damages because I didn't get good enough protection for it for using subpar jelly2 China-brand cases, the only one to blame is me, coz I went the cheapskate route to protect a premium product.
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post Dec 7 2011, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 7 2011, 07:00 PM)
Well, I guess your definition of premium and my definition of premium is different. I guess with all that I've achieved so far financially, my definition of premium here is still more inferior than yours. But funnily you buy cheap cases for your phones, while I look for more "premium" cases for my not-so-premium (by your definition, of course) phone. Weird eh? wink.gif

By the way, Vertu phones doesn't come with a case. If it does, it's third party. Again, the cheap case version you see being sold on eBay. Same argument again. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Didn't bother, cause it's too premium. The case itself (if any) can buy my computer already, no point looking.

Anyway, I've planned to not use any case for the phone once I get it, just to enjoy the finely crafted contours by Google (?). Unfortunately, it felt really slippery smooth to hold (not as slippery as iPad2 though). I can foresee I might drop the phone 3 times in a year, at least. sweat.gif

The barely there (name?) case shown on the video few pages back was really nice and tempting. Low profile and hopefully it doesn't affect the NFC's performance. wub.gif

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Dec 7 2011, 06:53 PM)
I admit, that was a bad example. How about a link from Clove itself? Usually UK price is higher than the rest, let's give it a benefits of doubt, ok?

After conversion, around RM270. Shipping to UK from Korea is farther, which eventually should cost more for the importer. If I'm seeing the same battery pack selling for RM339 here, it just doesn't justify the amount they are charging.

So my choice? I don't buy it. I might still bite, if it's below RM300.

There, SME lost another prospect customer and inventory remained the same. Doesn't look too good for their budget plan, I would say.


Added on December 7, 2011, 7:00 pm
If stringfellow write in, perhaps SME might layan his request to bring in 1x of each accessories that he wanted?  thumbup.gif

Let's wait and hear from stringfellow on this.

I'm very curious how SME would price it.  hmm.gif
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That is because you're buying it from a parallel source, not from Samsung themselves. The same problem was apparent when the PS3 was launched years back. English language games costs up to RM200-250 because they came from the US or UK. No matter how you want to reduce it, other than making a trip there yourself, it's not gonna get any cheaper. What happens later was, Sony starts redirecting their PS3 games meant for the HK and SG market to be stocked in Malaysia, resulting in price drop up to RM80-100 right now.

SME is Samsung Malaysia Electronics. A subsidiary of Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd, presumably the Korean HQ. This is a subsidiary, not a designated distributor who has to take a set amount of accessories in, in order to make money. Bringing in the accessories, and if they don't sell, they can get it circulated back into their inventory into whatever market wants it to be, should the Malaysian market be small-enough(or cheapskate enough) not to want these accessories.

This Samsung presence in Malaysia should be more than enough pull to bring in the accessories without worry of cost or "whether they make money or not". Bringing in 1 or 2 units of these accessories, would hardly hurt any of their bottom line. Nobody wants them, shift it back into inventory, and ship it back to countries that want them, after all this is just 1 or 2 units. Are these entities that skimp, or broke poor that even bringing in one or two units of accessories is going to bankrupt them when it doesn't sell? These are Samsung subsidiaries, not some Sungai Wang stall selling phones accessories!

Either way, I've done my part. The rest are just gonna rest on their laurels and *hope* one email from me is good enough to get these choice of accessories in? Your call.
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post Dec 7 2011, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 7 2011, 07:15 PM)
Either way, I've done my part. The rest are just gonna rest on their laurels and *hope* one email from me is good enough to get these choice of accessories in? Your call.
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First thing to hope for, their reply. thumbup.gif

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I also one of the guy scream for samsung first party accessories.I have OMNIA II, galaxy tab among early birds user.For what i see, samsung is really bad when come to first party accessories that can enhance user benefit.Take example galaxy tab 7.When it lunch in malaysia,where is the vital accessories at that time?I mean people buy premium price rm2650 at that lunch sure one to protect and explore it capability on it.I mean example you buy Bugatti Veron , sure you need a spoiler air brake to safe you.I hope somebody in SME read this and admit their spoil marketing strategy .My profession is customer support (not SAMSUNG) but other company.I can tell you, customer buy optional equipment (that we call) cost more than the the basis stuff. Many of the customer said i buy damm expensive thing ,why i must limit it capability and usage experience if the thing can worth every penny . Further more this OEM items is the one consumer thrust,cos in business ,thrust and loyalty is money cannot buy.Hope SME listen to this.I visit south korea before,and i know samsung well (after self research and ask korean people itself,) For corporation bigger than malaysian GDP It peanut for them to bring ton of accessories in malaysia .They have their own vessel,their own cargo airplane freighter.They buy helicopter which i assembly in Gimpo using their own 747.The whole issue about accessories we debate about lay in SME.The samsung mobile universe are depend on SME for input and data.I believe somebody in SME not done their homework or malas to do so.Worse of all somebody .........in side .....want to make side income on this.

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post Dec 7 2011, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Dec 7 2011, 06:19 PM)
its expensive when U compare with china products.
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expensive by how much?
there is a lot of grades(quality) in china made product.
the high quality one is not cheap at all.
you do know that a lot of high end products are made in China now? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(izamd @ Dec 7 2011, 07:31 PM)
I also one of the guy scream for samsung first party accessories.I have OMNIA II, galaxy tab among early birds user.For what i see, samsung is really bad when come to first party accessories that can enhance user benefit.Take example galaxy tab 7.When it lunch in malaysia,where is the vital accessories at that time?I mean people buy premium price rm2650 at that lunch sure one to protect and explore it capability on it.I mean example you buy Bugatti Veron , sure you need a spoiler air brake to safe you.I hope somebody in SME read this and admit their spoil  marketing strategy .My profession is customer support (not SAMSUNG) but other company.I can tell you, customer buy optional equipment (that we call) cost more than the the basis stuff. Many of the customer said i buy damm expensive thing ,why i must limit it capability and usage experience if the thing can worth every penny . Further more this OEM items is the one consumer thrust,cos in business ,thrust and loyalty is money cannot buy.Hope SME listen to this.
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+1.

Our definition of the word "premium" covers the same product here. A Vertu or a Bugatti Veyron is already in the "Luxury" class to me.
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Arghh Am I in the right thread now? Not much love here. Anyone wanna Icecream Sandwich
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post Dec 7 2011, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(silencer @ Dec 7 2011, 07:45 PM)
Arghh Am I in the right thread now? Not much love here. Anyone wanna Icecream Sandwich
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Had ice cream last night though, but not sandwiched type, celup type. tongue.gif
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post Dec 7 2011, 07:50 PM

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so, how many people on dis thread using dis fon now


Added on December 7, 2011, 7:51 pm3 people only..?

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QUOTE(silencer @ Dec 7 2011, 07:45 PM)
Arghh Am I in the right thread now? Not much love here. Anyone wanna Icecream Sandwich
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would be awesome if you could compare your NEXUS and NOTE brows.gif
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Dec 7 2011, 07:33 PM)
expensive by how much?
there is a lot of grades(quality) in china made product.
the high quality one is not cheap at all.
you do know that a lot of high end products are made in China now? rolleyes.gif
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High end can still be cheap. See the Xiaomi M1 for example.
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post Dec 7 2011, 08:12 PM

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Just to confirm..nexus don't have any capacitive button rite?
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post Dec 7 2011, 08:14 PM

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I been to south korea few time.Not many people know samsung also manufacture a damm good car. I tell you the amount of accessories they install make you feel continental car look nowhere.Take example Bluetooth audio technology,smartphone compatible with in car phone,GPS complete with live traffic volume,live weather forecast, live news, alert notification on disaster.,live route maintenance or close down and many more .My point is they have good customer feedback and know what people want.I strong believe those feedback here in malaysia came from SME which is eye and ears to samsung mobile corporation in korea.If SME DON'T ASK FOR IT so samsung wont know.

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