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post Dec 7 2011, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(djlah @ Dec 7 2011, 07:53 AM)
although I'm not working as marketing but something to share. when MNC company introduce new product, is not meant every country will selling world wide. each of country have own local marketing team, and they're the 1 decide whether to launch or not offer. before they commit, they gonna think carefully is the product will selling like hot-cake locally? else their boss screw them on wasting money launch the product. you know, launch any product need to invest money. Back to topic, why it's difficult to launch own official accessories? as TS said, Nexus not gonna break sales records like S2. when the phone selling volume is not that high, no need to think about it's accessories which is confirm lower.

You still want to compare with fruit? LOL
fruit still world top Number 1 hardware vendor in term on volume shipment, both official and 3rd party accessories profit or revenue like water flood their shop.
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Well, u guys are waiting for GN to release while I'm still waiting for SME to bring in GS2 LTE which comes with NFC Battery and NFC enabled phone.
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post Dec 7 2011, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 7 2011, 02:50 AM)
Like I said, I'm ready for this already:-

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and Samsung, strangely doesn't want my money. Or are the populace here already accepted their fate about buying accessories online only?
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lol, you can't expect SME to fulfil your 1 person's need, or the minority, and face losses for the rest of the unsold stock, right?


Added on December 7, 2011, 8:39 am
QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 7 2011, 03:06 AM)
come'on, don't be so stupid. Not everyone wants to buy shoddy third party cheap stuff to cover their expensive investment. A premium investment needs premium insurance, you don't protect your expensive BMW with Ah Long car insurance do you?
Analogy doesn't quite apply to our scenario here, as competing motor insurance prices are controlled. It's your choice to pick the insurance company. For your accessories case, original accessories by Samsung definitely cost more than other ciplak brand.

QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 7 2011, 03:06 AM)
Ordering online also comes with its own dangers and cost. Items getting lost, seller not trustable on eBay, sales tax at originating country slapped onto the purchase, not to mention the risk of being held at customs and taxed again here. Having it being made available here, eliminated all these problems, price them appropriately for local market, and you, the end user, gets a chance to look at it, inspect it, and try it before you buy it. How is that not a good thing? shakehead.gif
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For your case, a couple of item probably doesn't hit the taxable value.

As for eBay, you will have Paypal to protect you.

While I believe Close has original accessories for your phone, right? I didn't check though.

I still won't know if SME would bring in GNex original accessories or not, until the phone is official launched here.

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post Dec 7 2011, 10:07 AM

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there are some members here selling already right? no warranty though
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post Dec 7 2011, 10:44 AM

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Any shops in LYP actually selling this phone? I wanna look at the actual physical unit before deciding on the purchase. Don't feel like making a trip to Subang.
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post Dec 7 2011, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Dec 7 2011, 08:29 AM)
Well, u guys are waiting for GN to release while I'm still waiting for SME to bring in GS2 LTE which comes with NFC Battery and NFC enabled phone.
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are you sure there is compatible telco support LTE in Malaysia on smartphone? hmm.gif
maybe not for now, future?

QUOTE(Harddisk @ Dec 7 2011, 08:32 AM)
lol, you can't expect SME to fulfil your 1 person's need, or the minority, and face losses for the rest of the unsold stock, right?

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Although we all also hope that we can see the accessories locally too, but Business is Business, personal preference or small group interest hardly change their mind. Let's hope GNex will have good sales result when available in Malaysia, so that many accessories can offer in market.
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post Dec 7 2011, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(djlah @ Dec 7 2011, 10:56 AM)
are you sure there is compatible telco support LTE in Malaysia on smartphone?  hmm.gif
maybe not for now, future?
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GS2 LTE support both GSM/LTE services. And if u did some googling, DiGi and Maxis has been mentioned that they are testing LTE on some report.
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post Dec 7 2011, 11:12 AM

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After nearly half day playing with the GNex, I still find my SGNote is still the best smartphone for me so far.....
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post Dec 7 2011, 11:24 AM

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I've been playing with my colleague's Note but for some reasons I find the phone a tad slow.. compared to my previous Galaxy SII and also my current 4S. Animations are just not as fluid...well, at least for me.
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post Dec 7 2011, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(silencer @ Dec 7 2011, 11:12 AM)
After nearly half day playing with the GNex, I still find my SGNote is still the best smartphone for me so far.....
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Did you experience any lag on your GNote as claimed by some? reason why nexus not as good as Note?

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post Dec 7 2011, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Dec 7 2011, 11:10 AM)
GS2 LTE support both GSM/LTE services. And if u did some googling, DiGi and Maxis has been mentioned that they are testing LTE on some report.
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that's great for DiGi testing on LTE, hopefully there is great plan in future.
but GNex LTE i515 don't have GSM support or hybrid, not interested on S2.

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post Dec 7 2011, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(djlah @ Dec 7 2011, 11:44 AM)
that's great for DiGi testing on LTE, hopefully there is great plan in future.
but GNex LTE i515 don't have GSM support or hybrid, not interested on S2.
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Yes, i know GNex comes with individual version for GSM and LTE separately.
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post Dec 7 2011, 12:14 PM

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Was all set to grab one from the shop in Subang (you all know who) when when I call them up to ask if they have any stock, just the tone from who ever picked up the call is enough to turn me off. Needless to say, I'll think I'll get it when Maxis releases the official unit here.

I don't mind spending the money but I hate to be treated rudely.
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Dec 7 2011, 12:14 PM)
Was all set to grab one from the shop in Subang (you all know who) when when I call them up to ask if they have any stock, just the tone from who ever picked up the call is enough to turn me off. Needless to say, I'll think I'll get it when Maxis releases the official unit here.

I don't mind spending the money but I hate to be treated rudely.
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Then just wait for Official GNex from Maxis. Wonder if the VIP Plan will be available to bundle with GNex? I'm worry GNex will not be available with VIP Plan but others.
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post Dec 7 2011, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Dec 7 2011, 12:14 PM)
Was all set to grab one from the shop in Subang (you all know who) when when I call them up to ask if they have any stock, just the tone from who ever picked up the call is enough to turn me off. Needless to say, I'll think I'll get it when Maxis releases the official unit here.

I don't mind spending the money but I hate to be treated rudely.
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heard some rumor said that samsung already terminated contract with m telco, so maybe no GNex from them. Anyway, I don't care m telco but the yellow color in our forum background thumbup.gif hopefully our interest reach DiGi.....
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post Dec 7 2011, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(djlah @ Dec 7 2011, 12:48 PM)
heard some rumor said that samsung already terminated contract with m telco, so maybe no GNex from them. Anyway, I don't care m telco but the yellow color in our forum background  thumbup.gif  hopefully our interest reach DiGi.....
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How about Umobile. lately they launch many Samsung android with decent price package and rebate. thumbup.gif


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post Dec 7 2011, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(shaun'yeap @ Dec 7 2011, 03:38 AM)
business sense? then you go open a company and make business, nobody stop you. don't go and disturb people business, they have their own way to do things, don't need you to teach them how to do and what to do. 

for those who wants to get proper official accessories? then you just grab those thing officially launch in malaysia, what the heck you go ask for the thing in korea? those launch in malaysia is not official accessories? or you feel those foreign country one only match the 'official' in your case?

lolz? i bet you have a serious problem deal with your common sense.  sad.gif  sad to say. just because you afraid to take risk, you request for the 1%?  then how if the 1% sold out? you complain again why not 2%? that not about ego? a normal people will keep request for something just because they want it? if you want it badly, why don't you take the risk?

well, you can do anything to fulfill your vanity and nobody can stop you.
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Adoi, how to explain to a "less business sense" people like you?

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Like this aaa children, these people are distributor, want to make sale right? When want to make sale, better when during launch when everybody is look see look see when buying right? You see aaa boy, Galaxy Note wan aaaa, during launch, oni got the back cover wun woh. A lot of ppl go during the launch wun aaa, wan to ask if got any other accessories wan, like extra cover, cases, but they don't have option. They scare their 2000 RM done fall down scratch2 mah, so wanna buy cases straight away loh. But what option got during launch, or even until now? Nuthin. Oni got ciplak jelly jelly case, but these people duwan buy something that is only temporary protect wun, they want to buy quality cases straight. Now end up have to use ciplak jelly jelly case for long term. Coz no option, even if they have money oso, Samsung duwan bring in their official case.


My brain hurts. IQ and brain cell count drops just to accommodate you. There are a group of us, not just me, that think official cases are the MINIMUM option to protect your expensive investment of a phone. Yet we're only present with ciplak jely2 case. So a group of us ends up carrying them naked until we either find a proper 3rd party solution or Samsung bring theirs in, which should be the case in the first. The end. Nice onot the story? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(phantomash @ Dec 7 2011, 06:41 AM)
well, yea. HTC Rezound gotten its leak shot with the case on, but this is only like what? one out of 10 cases of leaking? Funnily enough, the link you posted is another tech blog, which you've mentioned to not have the info of manufacturer's accessories.

Also is it available before launch / right after launched (particularly HTC Rezound's in this case)?

Because that is essentially what you're saying here.

The Note has just been launched few days ago, and GNex isn't even launched here officially yet, but you're expecting the manufacturers to bring in the accessories and make them available locally, right? Isn't that the problem we are discussing here?

and again, I do agree with the notion of making high quality cases available locally, especially after the phone is launched.
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Ni lagi satu. Read the context of which my post was written in the case of HTC and Rezound, it was a one-shot case, to cater to this question of yours:-

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err, apart from Apple, who else makes accessory (particularly cases) for their phones?
Period. Full stop. If you're insinuating anything more, then that answer wasn't the reply for those insinuations, if any.

And yes, that Rezound case does make it during its American launch.

The point here is, original manufacturer's accessories should be a part of the launch. If not to cover the needs of the buyer during launch, at least to give the impression that the device they're launching comes with some sort of accessory lineup. Samsung, in the case of Galaxy Note, does not. Therefore pushing their buyer's needs to protect their phones to shoddy third party options.

QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Dec 7 2011, 07:11 AM)
yeah man, I also wondering why is it so difficult to make their own official accessories. I don't mind to fork out a little bit more if the quality is there.
But it's always the availability and lack of choices push me to the 3rd party one.
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FINALLY someone who understand what I'm trying to say here. Nothing to do with ego, nothing to do with vanity, nothing. Full stop. Everything to do with QUALITY.

QUOTE(Harddisk @ Dec 7 2011, 08:32 AM)
lol, you can't expect SME to fulfil your 1 person's need, or the minority, and face losses for the rest of the unsold stock, right?


Added on December 7, 2011, 8:39 am
Analogy doesn't quite apply to our scenario here, as competing motor insurance prices are controlled. It's your choice to pick the insurance company. For your accessories case, original accessories by Samsung definitely cost more than other ciplak brand.
For your case, a couple of item probably doesn't hit the taxable value.

As for eBay, you will have Paypal to protect you.

While I believe Close has original accessories for your phone, right? I didn't check though.

I still won't know if SME would bring in GNex original accessories or not, until the phone is official launched here.
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First of all. It may seem like I'm the only one here harping much on this, but now at least I know there's two. Look at the post above this quoted post. Secondly, the others who aren't enthused to buy shoddy third party alternatives, resorted to buying them online, risking postal malfunctions, delays and customs. As yes, my Desktop Dock for the Note I've just received as well the SGP stand for the Nexus was initially slapped with customs tax, but I had to make a few phone calls to explain what it was, before they impose tax on those items. It got off scott free, but not without intervention from me. If that official desktop dock was available locally, I don't have to deal with calling up customs to explain what it was and eliminating tax.

Thirdly, nobody's refuting the fact that if the phone isn't officially launched here (with the exception of iPhones (not fruit)), you will be having a hard time looking for original accessories, just like the case of the GNex. I accepted that fact, went scouring LYP yesterday to look for third party options that aren't shoddy or poorly made, and there are none. But I was referring to the already launched Note and its paltry selection of accessories from Samsung, forcing buyers to look at shoddy third party options. These buyers fall into two categories: the ones who buys anything that is cheap but "good enough" to them to protect, and those who prefer original accessories because they know Samsung made them and it should be tailor-made to protect their devices better than third party options. I desperately hope the group described formerly are not the majority, otherwise the latter group will be forced into the situation where only shoddy third party options are their ONLY option. Which is what it is starting to look like now.


Added on December 7, 2011, 1:11 pm
QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Dec 7 2011, 01:07 PM)
How about Umobile. lately they launch many Samsung android with decent price package and rebate. thumbup.gif
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Depending on your area, I personally think Umobile is a poor choice. I am using their RM28 prepaid mobile data option, and the Galaxy Nexus I'm using, either by the fault of their mobile network, or the fault of the phone itself, have a hard time auto-switching between Umobile's 2G network and their 3G line. On my Galaxy Nexus, often I had to manually switch between their "UMobile" which is their 3G line and "UMobile 2G". Often when the phone latches on to the "UMobile 2G" line, it does not auto-switch to "UMobile" 3G connection, I had to do a manual switch by letting the phone look for the network and register for it.

Thank God this is a test run, I'm switching to something else after the credits on this UMobile prepaid card runs out.

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I agree with string on lack of available quality cases...i got a freaking dent on my note bezel waiting for a bloody good case.I have used many phones before but i find the build quality of samsung really poor.A 1 ft drop and a dent for a Rm 2k and above phone is ridiculous.Manufactures should give each handset bought with a real good quality case in the box,not a freakin flip case...haish
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QUOTE(silencer @ Dec 7 2011, 11:12 AM)
After nearly half day playing with the GNex, I still find my SGNote is still the best smartphone for me so far.....
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Any particular reason?


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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Dec 7 2011, 01:07 PM)
How about Umobile. lately they launch many Samsung android with decent price package and rebate. thumbup.gif
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Too slow to pick up. Wait another 3 months after all telco sold all the hot cakes?


Added on December 7, 2011, 3:14 pm
QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 7 2011, 01:07 PM)
First of all. It may seem like I'm the only one here harping much on this, but now at least I know there's two. Look at the post above this quoted post.
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You can keep ranting on this, but the figure just not attractive enough for SME to put their money in, unfortunately.

OTOH, in case you decided to delve into this business of providing original accessories for phones (if not just Samsung), we would be more than happy to source it from you. biggrin.gif

Oh ya, aside from that. Buying expensive original case which also means 1 thing. You might have to protect the case too, cause it's expensive. Imagine you might not willing to left it on the table, if it was damped or has some stain, as opposed to using cheap cheap case.

As for your dock, how much did you pay for that 1 item + shipping?

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Dec 7 2011, 03:03 PM)
Any particular reason?


Added on December 7, 2011, 3:05 pm
Too slow to pick up. Wait another 3 months after all telco sold all the hot cakes?


Added on December 7, 2011, 3:14 pm
You can keep ranting on this, but the figure just not attractive enough for SME to put their money in, unfortunately.

OTOH, in case you decided to delve into this business of providing original accessories for phones (if not just Samsung), we would be more than happy to source it from you.  biggrin.gif

Oh ya, aside from that. Buying expensive original case which also means 1 thing. You might have to protect the case too, cause it's expensive. Imagine you might not willing to left it on the table, if it was damped or has some stain, as opposed to using cheap cheap case.

As for your dock, how much did you pay for that 1 item + shipping?
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Expensive here is subjective. Like I mentioned it before, one of the forum member here mentioned the official leather pouch for the Galaxy Note priced at USD25 as "expensive". Not to me, at that price, if I get it dirty , then so be it. I'd rather have that pouch dirty than a scuffed and scratched Galaxy Note.

I'm not looking for a freaking RM300 case here glittered with Swarovski crystals, I'm looking for a freaking GBP20 official leather pouch that is supposed to be here when Samsung released the Galaxy Note. Is that too much to ask? Are Malaysians that cheap?

The official desktop dock for the Note however is an acquired taste. If you leave your phone lying around to charge then it doesn't make sense to get one. Hence you don't see me ranting about it not available here, I went online and got it without a single peep. The leather pouch however, isn't available here, even though it made logical sense to include it as part of the accessories available for the Note at launch here.


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post Dec 7 2011, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 7 2011, 01:07 PM)
Ni lagi satu. Read the context of which my post was written in the case of HTC and Rezound, it was a one-shot case, to cater to this question of yours:-
Period. Full stop. If you're insinuating anything more, then that answer wasn't the reply for those insinuations, if any.

And yes, that Rezound case does make it during its American launch.

The point here is, original manufacturer's accessories should be a part of the launch. If not to cover the needs of the buyer during launch, at least to give the impression that the device they're launching comes with some sort of accessory lineup. Samsung, in the case of Galaxy Note, does not. Therefore pushing their buyer's needs to protect their phones to shoddy third party options.
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Err first thing first, do you have to use that condemning tone of yours to get your point across? What's up with that?
If you're resorting to that I could easily outdo you. smile.gif

I'm not insinuating anything here. You were saying why isn't the case/accessories (particularly quality ones) available immediately/before a phone (particularly GNex and Note, or Samsung's part) is made available.

The sample case you've given was like what? One out of ten phones that have been launched recently? If that's the case, its not the norm anymore. Why would you use an exception case like that to prove your point?

Plus, when I said available locally, I mean Malaysia, not America. If you're talking about America, they ALREADY HAVE GNex accessories for sale in their Verizon store, yes even before their GNex is launched.

Then that brings me to this point again, if every other regions have gotten their share of accessories sold locally, wouldn't that means Malaysia's the problem here, and not Samsung?

For whatever reason that is the case, I'm not arguing on that, because I do agree Malaysia too should have the cases sold locally, but it is not happening. At best, resellers are importing them to sell it locally. If you're going to improve on that with action, I'm more than happy to support you.

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