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 Mountain Biking Heaven V25, Tribute to xandman, our Urban Legend!

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Cyphereza
post Jan 13 2012, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(silvy @ Jan 13 2012, 05:16 PM)
Worth to throw so much money in r this hobby? How I wish i can rent a bike from the forumer and test ride it once in kiara and then decide how much i wan to throw in. Hahaha BTW tat is really a cool bike tho i cant identify the model.
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Not if you're newbie. I changed major parts (groupset, fork, frame, wheelset, frame, fork, wheelset) after a year riding my old Fuji Nevada.
You need to be rrreeeaaaallllllyyyyy sure you're into this sh*t first. If not, you're in deep sh*t if you already spent too much tongue.gif
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post Jan 13 2012, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(silvy @ Jan 13 2012, 04:30 PM)
I guess prime reason of me favouring trek is because trekanology is the 1st bike shop visit. And after some online research it is quite a respectable brand as well. Giant apparently is one class higher than Trek and their bikes are generally more expensive than Trek. But for RM 4500 i tot Trek X-Caliber is a pretty good deal (doubt if any Giant model can rival it at the same price). And also dont know which shop offer real Giant 29er for viewing.
Put it this way, since i live pretty nearby to trekanology, buying a bike from them would make pretty good sense. As i can go there for maintenance and component upgrades in case i need them. PROVIDED rm4500 cannot get me anything better than Trek X-Caliber (regardless of brand of course), since i m pretty tight on budget.

Thanks all the sifus here. U all are quite friendly and really helpful. browsing through the web 10 hours cannot beat surfing through lowyat forums. CHEERS.
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Giant in branding terms i won't say is bigger than trek. Maybe in the MTB world but not in cycling in general. Trek is bigger due to wider brand consciousness as they do sponsor professional cycling team be it road or mountain.

Giant is as big if not bigger in the sense that it is a big corporation where they not only manufacture and sell bikes. They actually make frames for other bike brands. You might be surprised that a certain well known brand's frame can be made by Giant. Nowadays, they are even venturing into making bike parts like wheels and many other bike stuff.

They do have good and proper high end bikes however.

For me a bike shop is like a friend. There is no point getting a nearby bike shop if you cannot communicate with them and they don't understand or can advise you in proper ways. It is one thing to sweet talk you into getting stuff from them and the other to be your best bike buddy who offers you a tune up for no $ at all. Of course, treat your bike shop with respect also la and belanja them the usual drinks once in a while.

I would drive 50 KMs for my fav bike shop if it is that far away from where i live. I don't mind, maybe i won't visit them that often unless something is needed.



QUOTE(silvy @ Jan 13 2012, 05:16 PM)
Worth to throw so much money in r this hobby? How I wish i can rent a bike from the forumer and test ride it once in kiara and then decide how much i wan to throw in. Hahaha BTW tat is really a cool bike tho i cant identify the model.
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Not being evil here.. but if you find yourself really interested in cycling... your RM4.5k rig is just the beginning of a small hole in your pocket. It will soon spiral out of control as you are surrounded by evil friends who will poison you at any chance you meetup... hell they can poison your through the net... you stand no chance face to face...

Having a willing friend that will loan you a bike for some full length rides is a plus to help decision making on your 1st bike. That is the truth. That way you will know which discipline of MTB you like and less chances of getting the wrong bike.


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This you?

If not, by any chance this fellas surname is "Tan" and works in Singapore? Sorry la, can't see his face but looks familliar..

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post Jan 13 2012, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Cyphereza @ Jan 13 2012, 05:00 PM)
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What type of chainring is that? blink.gif

Gotta admit, this bike is the sex! drool.gif
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post Jan 13 2012, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jan 13 2012, 05:35 PM)
Giant in branding terms i won't say is bigger than trek. Maybe in the MTB world but not in cycling in general. Trek is bigger due to wider brand consciousness as they do sponsor professional cycling team be it road or mountain.

Giant is as big if not bigger in the sense that it is a big corporation where they not only manufacture and sell bikes. They actually make frames for other bike brands. You might be surprised that a certain well known brand's frame can be made by Giant. Nowadays, they are even venturing into making bike parts like wheels and many other bike stuff.

They do have good and proper high end bikes however.

For me a bike shop is like a friend. There is no point getting a nearby bike shop if you cannot communicate with them and they don't understand or can advise you in proper ways. It is one thing to sweet talk you into getting stuff from them and the other to be your best bike buddy who offers you a tune up for no $ at all. Of course, treat your bike shop with respect also la and belanja them the usual drinks once in a while.

I would drive 50 KMs for my fav bike shop if it is that far away from where i live. I don't mind, maybe i won't visit them that often unless something is needed.
Not being evil here.. but if you find yourself really interested in cycling... your RM4.5k rig is just the beginning of a small hole in your pocket. It will soon spiral out of control as you are surrounded by evil friends who will poison you at any chance you meetup... hell they can poison your through the net... you stand no chance face to face...

Having a willing friend that will loan you a bike for some full length rides is a plus to help decision making on your 1st bike. That is the truth. That way you will know which discipline of MTB you like and less chances of getting the wrong bike.


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This you?

If not, by any chance this fellas surname is "Tan" and works in Singapore? Sorry la, can't see his face but looks familliar..
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Nope, not me. The guy in question is a forumner here. Not sure if his surname is Tan. hmm.gif
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post Jan 13 2012, 06:07 PM

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Like it or not, a bike and the way it's being setup plays an important role in the fun factor.

Riding a DH rig in RRI/FRIM is not fun and not advisable, unless you're into pain for nothing kicks.

Riding a XC race machine in Kiara/Bkt Ramlee/PCP would not yield as much fun as a proper trail/AM/FR bike.

So in other words... The RM4.5k is best spent in prepping up the room where you would store your fleet of bikes in the near future.
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post Jan 13 2012, 06:11 PM

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4.5k just to create a storage space for my future bikes? U gotta be kidding me kaizer... i have low income.. I really wish i can afford a full suspension, as opposed to hardtail. But Trek rumblefish (full suspension) cost 9k. SIAO
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LOL... Joking nia.

Once you found what you really like, you'll be immune to poison. The problem is it takes a while, depending on your luck to get immune to poisons.
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post Jan 13 2012, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(silvy @ Jan 13 2012, 05:16 PM)
Worth to throw so much money in r this hobby? How I wish i can rent a bike from the forumer and test ride it once in kiara and then decide how much i wan to throw in. Hahaha BTW tat is really a cool bike tho i cant identify the model.
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If you don't spend on your hobby, then you save money to spend on handbags ah?

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Rich or not rich, none will say he is rich except our Legend here who declares his property and assets on yearly basis to us.
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post Jan 13 2012, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(timothyy @ Jan 13 2012, 06:19 PM)
If you don't spend on your hobby, then you save money to spend on handbags ah?

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Rich or not rich, none will say he is rich except our Legend here who declares his property and assets on yearly basis to us.
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post Jan 13 2012, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(silvy @ Jan 13 2012, 04:30 PM)
I guess prime reason of me favouring trek is because trekanology is the 1st bike shop visit. And after some online research it is quite a respectable brand as well. Giant apparently is one class higher than Trek and their bikes are generally more expensive than Trek. But for RM 4500 i tot Trek X-Caliber is a pretty good deal (doubt if any Giant model can rival it at the same price). And also dont know which shop offer real Giant 29er for viewing.
Put it this way, since i live pretty nearby to trekanology, buying a bike from them would make pretty good sense. As i can go there for maintenance and component upgrades in case i need them. PROVIDED rm4500 cannot get me anything better than Trek X-Caliber (regardless of brand of course), since i m pretty tight on budget.

Thanks all the sifus here. U all are quite friendly and really helpful. browsing through the web 10 hours cannot beat surfing through lowyat forums. CHEERS.
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Giant is one class higher?
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Nvm its ur opinion.
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Go drop by Specialized in KD...
they have some pretty decent bikes as well for that amount of moneh!
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if u can tahan being ignored to da max...u can try Bikepro.

if u believe in ur willpower to resist poison...try KSH TTDI.

after u have visited all these places...only then u decide what u wanna get with ur moneh!

HAPPY HUNTING!

about the worth it to spend or not in this hobby is entirely up to u...
if u feel u wanna spend...u spend...
else u just watch ppl spend...and tahan ur itchybutt! wink.gif

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post Jan 13 2012, 06:37 PM

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post Jan 13 2012, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(Cyphereza @ Jan 13 2012, 05:53 PM)
Nope, not me. The guy in question is a forumner here. Not sure if his surname is Tan. hmm.gif
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i can attest his surname is not Tan.


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QUOTE(timothyy @ Jan 13 2012, 06:19 PM)
If you don't spend on your hobby, then you save money to spend on handbags ah?

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Rich or not rich, none will say he is rich except our Legend here who declares his property and assets on yearly basis to us.
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ur hobby definition sounds sooooo familiar.... sweat.gif

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post Jan 13 2012, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(xandman @ Jan 13 2012, 06:37 PM)
i can attest his surname is not Tan.


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ur hobby definition sounds sooooo familiar....  sweat.gif
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post Jan 13 2012, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(silvy @ Jan 13 2012, 05:16 PM)
Worth to throw so much money in r this hobby? How I wish i can rent a bike from the forumer and test ride it once in kiara and then decide how much i wan to throw in. Hahaha BTW tat is really a cool bike tho i cant identify the model.
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It seems like you re not sure of the sports...as with any hobby/sports...its good to start small...unless money aint a problem for you...(something tells me its not...since you live nearby Treknology heheh) so 4.5K is more than enough...usually people start around 2-3K...I started at 3K....

Once I was convinced about MTBing...only then I invested...

Now the only think thats left of the original bike is the frame, stem and handlebar ... blush.gif
Others all I ve changed...and now Im selling my golf set to fund this hobby hahaha

It pays to do your research before committing ...google and ask around ...

I would recommend getting a hardtail first, 4.5K should get you a good one...Specialized, Giant, Trek or Scott more or less the same..cause each of them would have a model to fit your price range...

The difference would be the components...this is where your research would come in handy...

In my opinion you should evaluate based on the order:

frame-->fork-->groupset-->wheelset

Others are neglegible..just my 2 cents...others may have diff opinion

QUOTE(Cyphereza @ Jan 13 2012, 05:25 PM)
Not if you're newbie. I changed major parts (groupset, fork, frame, wheelset, frame, fork, wheelset) after a year riding my old Fuji Nevada.
You need to be rrreeeaaaallllllyyyyy sure you're into this sh*t first. If not, you're in deep sh*t if you already spent too much tongue.gif
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See what I mean...
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post Jan 13 2012, 09:15 PM

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what talking you all.
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post Jan 13 2012, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(silvy @ Jan 13 2012, 05:16 PM)
Worth to throw so much money in r this hobby? How I wish i can rent a bike from the forumer and test ride it once in kiara and then decide how much i wan to throw in. Hahaha BTW tat is really a cool bike tho i cant identify the model.
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I used to think that way too, asking myself whether its worth throwing so much money into this hobby.

So I got myself an entry level bike (Raleigh Diablo Pro), a cheap helmet and a small entry level headlight.

2 days later I came back looking for gloves, cause my hands were slippery when I start sweating.

2 weeks later, I came back for cycling shorts. Butt damn pain ler...

Next, I came back for a camelbak (kinda annoying having to reach down for the water bottle all the time) and a bike computer (cause its cool!)

Next, its time for a new helmet. The cheap ones dun last. Straps coming out dy. So got myself a Fox Flux tongue.gif

Next thing I know, its a new bike tongue.gif Splurged on a Trek 6000 smile.gif Lucky for me, I managed to sell off my old Diablo on BBS within a few days too.

Then its a pair of Bontrager gloves (the old ones starting to have holes in the palms)

Then its a second pair of cycling shorts and a cycling jersey.

Now eyeing carbon seat posts and handlebars tongue.gif

And bloody hell, the Trek X-caliber damn poison ler...


So.. am I scaring you yet on how much you can potentially spend? cool2.gif
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QUOTE(chyu89 @ Jan 13 2012, 09:15 PM)
what talking you all.
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Kok...

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post Jan 13 2012, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(timothyy @ Jan 13 2012, 09:35 PM)
Kok...

He! He! He!
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Just now I went to Sen Aik....wanted to sort out my KS Seatpost...at first he didnt layan me ..cause no receipt...

But once I mention I know RAJU...he straight away took out the seatpost ... brows.gif







Now obviously that was not true...

Tee was cool enough to help me sort it out...gave me a new receipt...after that I left the lever/switch there...and he was nice enough to keep it for me...
Top notch service la Sen Aik ...if only they were nearer hehehe....

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QUOTE(malleus @ Jan 13 2012, 09:35 PM)
I used to think that way too, asking myself whether its worth throwing so much money into this hobby.

So I got myself an entry level bike (Raleigh Diablo Pro), a cheap helmet and a small entry level headlight.

2 days later I came back looking for gloves, cause my hands were slippery when I start sweating.

2 weeks later, I came back for cycling shorts. Butt damn pain ler...

Next, I came back for a camelbak (kinda annoying having to reach down for the water bottle all the time) and a bike computer (cause its cool!)

Next, its time for a new helmet. The cheap ones dun last. Straps coming out dy. So got myself a Fox Flux tongue.gif

Next thing I know, its a new bike tongue.gif Splurged on a Trek 6000 smile.gif Lucky for me, I managed to sell off my old Diablo on BBS within a few days too.

Then its a pair of Bontrager gloves (the old ones starting to have holes in the palms)

Then its a second pair of cycling shorts and a cycling jersey.

Now eyeing carbon seat posts and handlebars tongue.gif

And bloody hell, the Trek X-caliber damn poison ler...
So.. am I scaring you yet on how much you can potentially spend?  cool2.gif
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SILVY...
i know a way to avoid getting into this situation...

follow my advice....and u shall be free!

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