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 Are property prices going to up further? V4, nothing's gonna stop us now

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post Apr 16 2012, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Apr 16 2012, 05:27 PM)
come on... not all the contain is -ve lah.. some still +ve.. if all negative.. once really big correction will heading to burst... at least +ve news still got turning back after correction..

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post Apr 16 2012, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Apr 16 2012, 05:24 PM)
the chart is similar like gold rally pattern... pending to crash.. now seem stagnant.  biggrin.gif
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haha, how is location of property going to be the same as gold

you can't replace gold with silver, but you can definitely choose to stay in KL or Selangor if it's not that far from the place you work and it's cheaper

So many potential coming up from Rawang/Klang/Shah Alam (setia alam) and the new Sg. Buloh MRT project. KL and Penang is pretty much developed.

althought the jump is high, but still below the 150 index cause KL/PG is over 160 already.

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post Apr 16 2012, 06:08 PM

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I must say, after reading the few pages back, now you guys are scaring the shi+ out of me. I just decided to get a prop at SgLong and gonna tie myself with huge debt for the next 40 years... :s then you guys speculate that the bubble is going to burst soon and send everyone to hell :s

Was happy that i can afford to buy a house just now, but now I'm like falling from heaven to hell because of this bubble thing... i guess I was too optimistic?

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post Apr 16 2012, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Apr 16 2012, 07:08 PM)
I must say, the after reading the few pages back, now you guys are scaring the shi+ out of me. I just decided to get a prop at SgLong and gonna tie myself with huge debt for the next 40 years... :s then you guys speculate that the bubble is going to burst soon :s

Was happy that i can afford to buy a house, but now I'm like falling from heaven to hell because of this bubble thing... i was too optimistic?
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as long as u retain ur job and willing to pay extra RM100 - RM400 month after month for over 40 years. (extra interest, if worse thing happen).. u can just go ahead to buy ur dream house for "own stay". biggrin.gif

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post Apr 16 2012, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Apr 16 2012, 06:08 PM)
I must say, after reading the few pages back, now you guys are scaring the shi+ out of me. I just decided to get a prop at SgLong and gonna tie myself with huge debt for the next 40 years... :s then you guys speculate that the bubble is going to burst soon and send everyone to hell :s

Was happy that i can afford to buy a house just now, but now I'm like falling from heaven to hell because of this bubble thing... i guess I was too optimistic?
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Congrate on your new purchase for own-stayed. No bother if you can afford one as long as you feel comfort with it.

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post Apr 16 2012, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Apr 16 2012, 06:15 PM)
as long as u retain ur job and willing to pay extra RM100 - RM400 month after month for over 40 years. (extra interest, if worse thing happen).. u can just go ahead to buy ur dream house for "own stay". biggrin.gif 

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RM100-400 is a bit too little right. But I agree with you, if you are comfortable with the extra money, why bother. it's over 40 yrs and chances are it might come down and will also go back up later. if it doesn't come down but still climbing, it's even a bigger problem. So you have high chances it will go back up. Just a matter of time.
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post Apr 16 2012, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Apr 16 2012, 06:08 PM)
I must say, after reading the few pages back, now you guys are scaring the shi+ out of me. I just decided to get a prop at SgLong and gonna tie myself with huge debt for the next 40 years... :s then you guys speculate that the bubble is going to burst soon and send everyone to hell :s

Was happy that i can afford to buy a house just now, but now I'm like falling from heaven to hell because of this bubble thing... i guess I was too optimistic?
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Nothing to worry as you're buying for your own stay...

Let's use some maths...
Assuming the bubble burst, the property price of RM 500k drop to RM 400k (20% drop like China Q1)

Property price = RM 500k (deposit 10% means RM 450k)
Interest = 5%
Duration = 40 years
Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 2169.88

Say property price drop 20%,
Property price = RM 400k (deposit 10% means RM 360k)
Interest = 5%
Duration = 40 years
Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 1735.90

Conclusion: Different by RM 433.98

http://www.ocbc.com.my/personal-banking/ca...lator_loan.aspx

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post Apr 16 2012, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Apr 16 2012, 05:24 PM)
the chart is similar like gold rally pattern... pending to crash.. now seem stagnant.  biggrin.gif
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biggrin.gif hahaha I had a feeling someone would bring this up.

I think less than 1% of population own investment grade gold bullion, nobody talks about it at kopitiam or queue overnight to buy gold right? >>> under owned

Gold production has plateau in the last decade while demand increased substantially, central banks around the world are net buyers of gold first time (since 2010 if not mistaken) in the last few decades >>> under supplied

World paper money supply has increased over 10 times in the last 40 years alone, while world production of gold increased by less than 2% a year on average >>> under priced perhaps


In a money printing environment, I reckon it is unwise not to hold any gold at all. Not to mention the current monetary/petrodollar system is on the verge... that's what I've been talking about for a while.

Funny enough, during a commodity bull run, stock and other financial assets would be in a secular bear market.



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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Apr 16 2012, 06:37 PM)
Nothing to worry as you're buying for your own stay...

aint that the truth and nothing but the truth!
wholeheartedly agree, again!
just beware those crying up 50% or drop 50%! tongue.gif
challenging times indeed. inevitably, some will lose, some will gain.

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Apr 16 2012, 06:37 PM)
Nothing to worry as you're buying for your own stay...

Let's use some maths...
Assuming the bubble burst, the property price of RM 500k drop to RM 400k (20% drop like China Q1)

Property price = RM 500k (deposit 10% means RM 450k)
Interest = 5%
Duration = 40 years
Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 2169.88

Say property price drop 20%,
Property price = RM 400k (deposit 10% means RM 360k)
Interest = 5%
Duration = 40 years
Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 1735.90

Conclusion: Different by RM 433.98

http://www.ocbc.com.my/personal-banking/ca...lator_loan.aspx
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Very well explained, thanks for your shed of light! notworthy.gif
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 16 2012, 07:05 PM)
aint that the truth and nothing but the truth!
wholeheartedly agree, again!
just beware those crying up 50% or drop 50%! tongue.gif
challenging times indeed. inevitably, some will lose, some will gain.
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Property price = RM 500k (deposit 10% means RM 450k)
Interest = 5%
Duration = 40 years
Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 2169.88

Say property price drop 20%,
Property price = RM 400k (deposit 10% means RM 360k)
Interest = 5%
Duration = 40 years
Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 1735.90

Say property price drop 50%
Property price = RM 250k (deposit 10% means RM 225k)
Interest = 5%
Duration = 40 years
Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 1084.94
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Wah the selangor priceindex chart looks scary. Looks like a 20 to 25 pcnt drop is likely. Hmm interestinfg. But these are the sa kajang puchong ds landed properties where developers were able to market n sell theirs at a premium.
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post Apr 16 2012, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Apr 16 2012, 07:25 PM)
Property price = RM 500k (deposit 10% means RM 450k)
Interest = 5%
Duration = 40 years
Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 2169.88

Say property price drop 20%,
Property price = RM 400k (deposit 10% means RM 360k)
Interest = 5%
Duration = 40 years
Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 1735.90

Say property price drop 50%
Property price = RM 250k (deposit 10% means RM 225k)
Interest = 5%
Duration = 40 years
Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 1084.94
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Say property price drop 100%
Property price = RM 0k (deposit 10% means RM 0k)
Interest = 5%
Duration = 40 years
Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 0.00
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post Apr 16 2012, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Apr 16 2012, 09:36 PM)
Say property price drop 100%
Property price = RM 0k (deposit 10% means RM 0k)
Interest = 5%
Duration = 40 years
Loan Monthly Repayment = RM 0.00
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can't wait for this to happen drool.gif
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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Apr 16 2012, 06:08 PM)
I must say, after reading the few pages back, now you guys are scaring the shi+ out of me. I just decided to get a prop at SgLong and gonna tie myself with huge debt for the next 40 years... :s then you guys speculate that the bubble is going to burst soon and send everyone to hell :s

Was happy that i can afford to buy a house just now, but now I'm like falling from heaven to hell because of this bubble thing... i guess I was too optimistic?
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Nobody knows what will happen, what may not happen.

Since this thread started from V1, we had people call for property price to plunge as well, and taking about bubble which is way years back.
If look back, price surge more than 30-50% since this thread V1 started, instead of plunging.

Don't get me wrong either, I am not saying price won't plunge, it may, it could, just listen and heard both side of camp arguement, while one shouldn't be affected by others comment, but your own judgement, but in the end of the day, no one knows the future.
Just don't be over-optimistic that price is forever sky-rocketing non-stop, while also don't be too pessimistic as well, price won't continue plunge until zero one.
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post Apr 17 2012, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 17 2012, 12:15 AM)
Nobody knows what will happen, what may not happen.

Since this thread started from V1, we had people call for property price to plunge as well, and taking about bubble which is way years back.
If look back, price surge more than 30-50% since this thread V1 started, instead of plunging.

Don't get me wrong either, I am not saying price won't plunge, it may, it could, just listen and heard both side of camp arguement, while one shouldn't be affected by others comment, but your own judgement, but in the end of the day, no one knows the future.
Just don't be over-optimistic that price is forever sky-rocketing non-stop, while also don't be too pessimistic as well, price won't continue plunge until zero one.
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Shall we end this chapter fr now... wink.gif
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Apr 17 2012, 12:31 AM)
Shall we end this chapter fr now... wink.gif
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OK, V5 in the making, anyone can start the V5 thread if wish to discuss further about property price trend issue.

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