Hi all,  my fren is in Rome now and will travel to London and Paris later this week, she is asking where is the better place to get a Rolex, France, Italy or uk?

I think it boils down to what's your expectations for it and what you're going to wear it for?

My 2 cents:

On the positive side, it certainly looks nice, functional and accurate and fairly affordable.

On the other hand, its pretty expensive considering its a quartz, not really for impressing people (if that's your thing) and not something you'll pass down to the next generation

cuz 17.5k is for a second hand PAM 90  and 19k is for a brand new PAM104. so now i'm wondering which one more worth. lol.
but i read on the other watch forum and it said PAM resale value better than omega that's why i even gave up the omega speedmaster or de ville. n PAM 104 and PAM 90 running the same movement too right except one have the power reserve sign?
i was asking for a tag heuer heritage at first and then omega de ville or speedmaster. but then the dealer said tagheuer resale value is very low. and then suggested my father panerai. but new one is ard 22k. so my father decided to buy the second hand PAM90 for 17.5k. but i realise brand new PAM 104 is just 19k. lol.

PAM resale value also dropping. yes the all LE factor does help to a certain extend but to go from selling price at 10-15% higher than retail to 20-35% off retail. is a big drop over a short 5yrs. if its continues to fall to ~40% off retail is like Omega already.

hmm, can explain what LE stand for and the bold part? sorry. not really good at those retail thing. >,< thanks!

LE = Limited Edition.

patryn33's saying that Panerai is supporting resale value by having limited editions/ controlling output but in the long run may not help.

Kinda like what Hermes is doing with their Birkin.

LE = Limited Edition.

patryn33's saying that Panerai is supporting resale value by having limited editions/ controlling output but in the long run may not help.

Kinda like what Hermes is doing with their Birkin.

Birkin still quite exclusive

There's a long Q for it anyways, even if you can afford it haha.

Kinda liking this Ball & Ross, quite different than than the usual watches I am seeing recently

Credit to the owner of the photo -

I was offered around 10k for this haha.

Still thinking since 10k is not a small sum, plus when you are exposed to 5 digit budgets, you can always get some awesome watch like Zenith and etc too

But somewhat I still like the design of Ball & Ross

PAM resale value also dropping. yes the all LE factor does help to a certain extend but to go from selling price at 10-15% higher than retail to 20-35% off retail. is a big drop over a short 5yrs. if its continues to fall to ~40% off retail is like Omega already.

I was offered around 10k for this haha.

Still thinking since 10k is not a small sum, plus when you are exposed to 5 digit budgets, you can always get some awesome watch like Zenith and etc too

ahhh i had the exact same B&R Phantom Watch from my own collection for sale a couple months ago for quite a bit less than the Retail price...

Curious what do you have in your collection if you don't mind saying.