About the NJOI thingy:



http://www.astro.com.my/njoi/faq

My my, even mentioned ABN...

This post has been edited by Qash-M: Jul 21 2012, 06:56 PM

Thx for ur reply bro. But i only got prob in some of the chinese channel. Whenswith the those channel. They r nirmal for few seconds, after tat they will have some jiggling in graphic n then no sound. Also i do connect thru hdmi. But when i choose 5.1 sorround there is no sound for hd channel, only sd. Y terbalik 1?.. why is tat happens?? Thx

This post has been edited by boreclub: Jul 21 2012, 07:06 PM

1) its expensive, rm40 for 30 days for 3 channels!
2) should allow online purchase with credit cards.
3) should sell it at epay, 7 eleven, mol online and etc.

Yes, the final conclusion to the trilogy. The 3 films have already been shown in Astro HBO Ch 411 / HBO HD Ch 433 this year for many many times already. Unfortunately, its the Theatrical Edition, not the Extended Edition.

The Theatrical Edition shown in HBO / HBO HD for "Return Of The King" is only, hehe, 200 minutes (3 hours 20 minutes). Showing now from 04:40 pm to 08:00 pm 21-07-2012. The actual size ratio 22:10 have been changed to fit 16:9 screen which means some parts of the left and right of the picture have been cut-off, so losing some details shown at the sides. For SD channel 411, the 16:9 is shown with top/bottom black bars in 4:3 SD.

The Extended Edition for "Return O T King" is 251 minutes (4 hours 11 minutes) with additional 51 minutes footage which the Theatrical Edition don't have.

According to a blu-ray review from a web site... Examples of scenes not shown in the Theatrical Edition... (1) scene which show what happened to Saruman, (2) Gandalf and the Witch-king battle, (3) Merry pledges allegiance to Theoden, (4) what happened when Faramir and Eowyn were in the Houses of Healing, (5) Frodo and Sam march together with Sauron's orcs.

I waited and waited and waited for HBO to show the Extended Edition BUT only the Theatrical Edition is still being repeatedly shown for more than 20++ times already since last year.

Saya tak boleh tahan lagi and bought the Extended Edition blu-ray and yes, the additional scenes mentioned from the website review are inside and explains the whole J.R.R. Tolkien's story in much more detail which I feel is important and necessary when compared to the novel from the book. Of course the actual book which I read is much much much better than the movie (about 12 hours is actually too short for the trilogy !!!) Somehow I feel the author's style of writing transcends the genre which are akin to the styles of medieval english, and hitherto, which are difficult to understand for people who are used to the writings of modern contemporary english. Transplanting the author's original vision and details to the 3 movies were difficult, to say the least.

Surprisingly, the Dolby Digital 5.1 audio from the HBO HD Ch 433 for the 3 films in this Trilogy was quite good. Battle scenes sounded directional between the main and surround speakers, vocals clearly defined, background music properly defined. Of course the audio from the lossy Dolby Digital 5.1 from Astro HBO HD cannot be compared with the lossless DTS-HS Master Audio 6.1 presented from the Extended Edition Blu-ray.

I don't think HBO HD Ch 433 will show the Extended Edition so I can only continue to harbour unfulfilled hope for something which won't thappen.



This post has been edited by jamesleetech: Jul 21 2012, 07:29 PM

Yes, in my personal opinion, I totally agree with Dannychen. Its highway robbery for people with NJOI !!

This post has been edited by jamesleetech: Jul 21 2012, 07:40 PM

Did you connect the Byond HDMI Out directly to your HDTV ?

When Byond Digital Audio Output is set to "Stereo (Analogue and Digital)", it will HDMI output all SD and HD channels in only PCM Stereo which all HDTV can decode so got sound.

When Byond Digital Audio Output is set to "Dolby Digital 5,1 (Digital Only)", it will HDMI output all SD channels as PCM Stereo... and all HD channels as Dolby Digital 5.1/2.0.

If your HDTV do NOT have built-in Dolby Digital Decoder... when the Byond is set to "Dolby Digital 5,1 (Digital Only)", the HDTV will have NO sound eventhough you connect directly by HDMI to your HDTV. So make sure your HDTV support Dolby Digital decoding. IF not, then of course no sound for all HD channels !

Here's a picture I took with my phone camera of my Samsung HDTV...


Most old and new AVR Amplifiers already support Dolby Digital audio decoding so connecting the Byond HDMI to the amplifier (if have HDMI Input) will correctly allow sound from the HD channels with Dolby Digital audio. If you are already using this connection, then maybe something is wrong with your Byond box. Of course getting 5.1 surround from home theatre system for the HD channels Dolby Digital 5.1 is a lot better than the HDTV internal stereo speakers.

You also mentioned that you got "some jiggling" in the picture and then no sound. I suspect that there may be 2 possible reasons.

Possible Reason 1
Maybe the HDMI contact pins in either end of the cable heads is poorly connected or loose. Loose connections can cause intereference or loss of video or audio.

Possible Reason 2
Even if the reception signal is strong from the LNB at dish, please check from your Byond whether the signal reception fluctuates sometimes from excellent to poor. This was what happened with a friend of mine who installed the dish on the first floor. He complained that his LED TV picture will always flicker a few seconds after about every half an hour and picture colour is weak eventhough the reception signal is still strong, so I asked my Astro installer friend to personally go to his house to check. Hehe... he found out that the dish angle of direction was pointing to a very tall tree with one tree branch that is blocking a part of the signal path. My friend just saw off this annoying long horizontal branch and no more flickering and picture colour and sharpness is now excellent ! It seems that the single long tree branch is always swaying from the wind and blocking part of the signal area, LOL. Sometimes its difficult to find out the reason which may be due to such "blocks".

Possible Reason 3
Probably your "jiggling in graphic n then no sound" can also be caused by loose cable connection at the LNB (at sat Dish) or at your Byond Satellite Input.
Also check if your Byond Satellite Input cable is properly connected tightly. Its difficult to check the LNB for loose cable connection if located at rooftop.

Even if the LNB is correctly aligned at the dish, sometimes the cable connected to the LNB may be getting slightly loose which can cause very funny problems with the TV channels.

Everything I suggested here are only my guesses of your actual situation. I believe the best way is to call someone who is very good in Audio/Video/HiFi to personally come to your home to check everything, including your HDMI cables and various connections.

Thx bro. U r really helping me. I will try to call for the installer to check for me as I do not know any expert cos is not all the channel got prob. Only some of it.
As for my tv. I'm using pana p50u20k. Direct plug in from decoder to tv only. Dunno it support dolby or not, although i doubt so.

Just wondering...

Got bored with myself, so i posted the HD channels for Olympic one...

Also, i've noticed audio quality on ch.1-4 is quite different from the rest. Not sure if anyone hears the same.

This post has been edited by Qash-M: Jul 23 2012, 03:27 PM

Thanks for the pix! 8-)

You're welcome. BTW, how's the Ginx HD on Starhub?

still not announced yet....looks like could be announced later this week or next few weeks....the 2 channels still showing starhub logos. 8-(

Maybe after Olympic finished then Starhub launch it.

Sad to see our side is so quiet,nothing new in the near future,they are badly out of space,every Raya no new channels!

from 28/7 to 13/8, there will be a live 3d broadcast for > 200 hours on astro channel 838 including the opening ceremony on 28th August on 4am (GMT+8).

Thanks for your info. Anyway, already advertised often in many Astro channels these few days. The Ch 838 will be feed from ESPN 3D channel.

I read unconfirmed reports (including from some people who stay nearby the stadium who heard the rehearsals) that the Olympics Opening Ceremony will be based partly on Shakespeare literature and one event will be a "stunt" from James Bond performed by the present Bond actor, Daniel Craig. Hehe... will see whether this is true or not when the time comes.

As were broadcast by Astro a few times previously for selected live football matches, the 3D on Channel 838 will be in Side-By-Side 2 Half Frames format.

People with only 2D HDTV will see the 16:9 screen as 2 half-frames "joined" together, no 3D for Non-3D HDTVs.


* Sample only, picture not from Astro.

Here's a short explanation in sample frame pictures...


I don't know but I suspect the 3D screen for Ch 838 should be broadcast in 720p (progressive frames). I think the "stretching" of each left side and right side frames to 2 full frames is not possible on Interlaced frames from 1080i. I may be wrong about the 720p used for the Astro 3D TV channel.

Anyway, because of the stretching done to create 3D and 720p used, eventhough in HD, I do believe the picture quality from Astro Ch 838 will not be as good when compared to the other actual 1080i used for the other HD channels... especially affected will be the picture sharpness. Well, this is only my opinion because unfortunately I don't have a 3D HDTV to compare with my own eyes, hehehe.

Note: Astro HD channels only maximum 1080i, no 1080p.

I believe that the best qualty 3D will be from 3D blu-ray discs which used Active-Shutter 3D in actual 1080p which don't need any "stretching". However, not all 3D blu-rays in Active-Shutter format. The worst 3D blu-ray discs are those that used Anaglyph 3D (red and green or red and blue) which used "color" glasses but the advantage is that the 3D can be watched from Non-3D HDTVs.


ADDITION
To Chuppachop... any 3D channel for the London Olympics from Starhub ? The Astro Ch 838 in 3D is NOT permanent and will only "exist" for the London Olympic duration. Mmm... will Astro launch any permanent 3D HD channel in the near future ? I don't think so.

This post has been edited by jamesleetech: Jul 24 2012, 10:42 PM

Ask chuppachop (Singaporean) instead...

This post has been edited by Qash-M: Jul 24 2012, 10:18 PM

Thanks. I have edited my earlier post to refer to chuppachop instead.

Sorry, I thought you are from Singapore, hehe.

Lol if i was Singaporean, i'd enjoy their HD channels FAR BETTER than Asthrow.

So true and IF I am in the same position, I will also be joining you and throw away Assthrow too. Monopoly for more than 16 years will always put Malaysians in a terrible position with only ONE choice nationwide. I am not refering to people who have chosen <secret> maybe "illegal" methods.

If only I am staying in some location in KL which have Byond IPTV where I can at least get much faster broadband speeds, lol.