I agree.

Lol.. $58.85 for Euro 2012? .... thanks to Singtel perhaps? =p

If you recall the last euro, Mio and Starhub was fighting for exclusive broadcast rights.. but in the end it backfired because UEFA peeps realize SG telcos has such deep pocket, that caused them to spike the broadcast license fees. And everyone was complaining how can a developed country like SG can't have world cup broadcasted. This then made all broadcasters pay a share to bring the rights in... and yeah it was about 50+ sgd for that... looks like UEFA peeps never forget how deep SG telco pockets are =D loll

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Added on March 28, 2012, 7:26 pmActually astro has invested a lot in their satellite facilities. So.. why don't you subscribe to the satellite receiving method instead of waiting IPTV?

And as recalled in other posts in LYN, they did intend to bring IPTV in via Maxis HSBB, but they had a strong debate in a meeting with Maxis about bandwidth allocation etc, causing indefinite planning... oh well =/

This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: Mar 28 2012, 07:26 PM

Yea, I read about it but cannot recall whether it was the Euro 2008 or World Cup 2010. Anyway, you must be correct on the fight for Euro 2008 rights. If I am not mistaken, at that time many singaporeans complained why the rights was still not yet obtained while Astro got to be the Official Broadcaster so early... and the rights was finally bought at a date so near to the start of Euro !

I am malaysian so this fight for rights in Singapore don't affect me. Probably in Malaysia, Astro monopoly in Sat TV and the only big gun, was able to purchase the full coverage rights much easier at lower prices. Singapore competitors bidding against each other will definitely jack up the price which will inevitably increase the subscription amount.

The funny thing I found out was at the link ... "http://www.starhub.com/tv/packagebuilder.html?product=addon". When I mouse clicked on "UEFA EURO 2012 PPV-Early Bird+" link there, I got a "Page not found" error. Early Bird means subscribe early at reduced price and with price shown... Starhub should already have started accepting PPV subscription for Euro. Why show price and link in "Add-On" if not ready yet ? I don't understand.

Hrm.. now that I think back, it should be the world cup 2010. Yea.. got a friend working in Sg that time, he had to fork out $50+ for it. The first week it started, it wasn't in Sg yet. Then many flocked to Astro's online player to watch the matches. A week later all the online access got blocked for out of Msia region streaming lol. Then the citizens were so unhappy and high pressure from community ended up with Singtel and Starhub sharing the rights, that was really a classic one lol.

But I'm really surprised this coming event, its almost the same price... did they repeat back the same mistake or UEFA has set a new expectation from them? =P

Despite Astro having monopoly, the UEFA sets our region to be of lower price for the rights similar for Starhub (before mio was in the picture). But since the Singapore telcos were being so aggressive... they found a new goldmine they can't resist lol. I hope the same don't happen in Malaysia. Imagine coming years, we need to pay hundreds just to watch this event... so not worth it.

Correct. Assteruk only appreciate kaki bola and chinese drama delusional old ladies (which are usually wifes of middle-high and high class customer).

To give an image of how delusional the old ladies are (not sure this is true or not, my lecturer told me this back when I was in college), when one actress who plays a villain visited Malaysia, a group of old ladies actually gathered at airport and throw rotten vegetables at her while shouting vulgarities.

Unless that was sarcasm, you forgot the two words that makes assteruk subscribers very angry: Rain Fade.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Mar 29 2012, 01:37 PM

long time not post here...im back

Pay-TV companies are always at the mercy of content providers. So costs are rising faster than revenue,” said an analyst with an investment bank in Kuala Lumpur. “On top of that there is more competition now with other providers and IPTV is increasingly becoming the norm around the world. Satellite TV is dying,” he added. — Reuters

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...ing-pay-tv-ipo/

Good times are coming to a close?


This post has been edited by smileguy: Mar 29 2012, 06:17 PM

Not for rural area (Kampung2 far away from FTTH). Or, atleast when ABN ventures in satellite also.

This post has been edited by Qash-M: Mar 29 2012, 07:13 PM

LOL.. not really sarcasm la bro.. I mean.. why wait for IPTV assteruk to come esp for landed residential, when satellite is already available nationwide... I mean if he really wants to subscribe, can start with satellite first, once IPTV available, go for it =p. And oh well, rain fade is yet again a problem they couldn't solve, of course unless gov approve bigger dish =D, by then we all benefit lol

yes... i understand.. but,
just sick of the bills
streamix=RM100
astro= RM132.8

if iptv at least i can choose 6mb and superpack with these price, + no more rain fade...
ahhhhhh really hope that joint venture with TM come true....
cuz my area already support UNIFI and with their promotion right now, tempted to go there~


This post has been edited by krel89: Mar 29 2012, 08:47 PM

Smileguy, my thanks for bringing this "fascinating" news here.

Here's a portion of what Ananda stated...
"Pay-TV companies are always at the mercy of content providers. So costs are rising faster than revenue," said an analyst with an investment bank in Kuala Lumpur. "On top of that there is more competition now with other providers and IPTV is increasingly becoming the norm around the world. Satellite TV is dying," he added.

Ananda mentioned that an analyst stated that Pay-TV costs are rising faster than revenue. Then Ananda added more... "on top of that (analyst statement)" ... that IPTV is increasingly becoming the norm and Satellite TV is dying. Only Ananda said that the "Satellite TV is dying" which the analyst did not mention.

I really wonder what tycoon Ananda is trying to say.

If I was the reporter who interviewed him for that story, I would have asked him many questions that would make him look stupid for such comments !

Below should be the type of questions and comments that I would express to him...

First and foremost... remember the old days when wooden telephone poles was used to hang phone cables so... does he know how long it took for Telekom to install this infrastructure to the whole nation ? How many years did many small towns in Malaysia have to wait just to have phone service ?

After many years, does Ananda know how long it took for towns nationwide to change phone poles to underground phone cables? Even today, some small towns still use phone poles. The phone infrastructure was progressively changed by Telekom from phone poles to underground phone cables which took many many years to complete nationwide.

Where did Ananda get the actual statistics to comment that "Satellite TV is dying" ?

He should be the first person to know that installing the full infrastructure to use underground fiber cables is much much more expensive because of costs of the fiber cables, ports and routers, distributors, etc. Note: I am referring to the underground fiber cables outside our homes, internal wiring in our homes don't use fiber cables.

Each fiber cable for IPTV is limited to a number of users it can support. So the IPTV providers have to estimate how many cables to lay underground that is enough for future demand. It cost money to dig again to add more cables.

Although the full infrastructure for Satellite TV/Radio cost billions of ringgit, its coverage is immediately available nationwide... and don't depend on the population size in any towns or location areas. IPTV or Cable TV companies will have to survey first and then decide whether its commercially possible to provide underground fiber cables for small towns with small population, such as 50,000 residents in a small town. I really think these companies will NEVER install the expensive fiber cables to small kampungs (with only a few hundred people in each kampung and these kampungs are spread in a large area) ! In the case of Satellite TV, there is no such "decision" to make because its completely not necessary. Just go to any kampung home, install the Sat decoder+dish and thats it !

Even in advanced countries such as USA, NOT ALL towns, townships, suburbs in their entire vast country have Cable TV or IPTV ! I know this as a fact. All of us do know just how BIG the USA is ! Yes, I agree that IPTV and Cable TV is readily available now in many cities in US but it will never be possible to cover the entire US nationwide. This is where Satellite TV plays such an important role because its readily available to a very large area that each satellite is located in the "sky above".

So I must really criticise Ananda because I truly wonder just where he got this nonsense and absolute crap that he stupidly believe that "Satellite TV is dying". There is a chance that I could be wrong BUT if Ananda is right in front of me now, I will still challenge him to prove to me with evidence and actual statistics that support his stupid opinion that Sat TV is dying !

Of course everyone wants IPTV or Cable TV. Who doesn't ? Of course I WANT IT !!! As I have mentioned many times before, will it be possible and how long do we have to wait for IPTV or Cable TV to be available nationwide? I know no one suggested it but it will be very stupid to suggest stopping Satellite TV right now, and put the people in the whole nation in limbo who then stupidly wait for many many unknown years for something that may never come for many rakyat in smaller towns !

If anyone here feels whatever I have mentioned here is not correct, I will not be offended and don't mind if anyone corrected me, hehe.

My apologies to smileguy... for my "heated" reply here. I mean no offense to you. I am NOT pointing my sarcasms and criticisms at you but directed at Ananda for his rather careless and stupid statement. OMG !

NEW ADDITION
The kind gentleman "anfieldude" later posted a reply about my error so I have posted my reply at Post 1127...
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=198&t=2114557&st=1127#

I have replied with further explanations that its still ridiculous to claim that "Satellite TV is dying" so please read it. Part of my reply include... "Yes, I publicly convey my apology to Ananda only for the part of the statement that did not come from his mouth."

This post has been edited by jamesleetech: Mar 30 2012, 12:08 AM

but if im not mistaken... its only rm30 cheaper for astro packages..

what channels are you into anyway?

SP 1..

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Added on March 29, 2012, 9:13 pmmaybe he take example in singapore?? hahahahah



This post has been edited by krel89: Mar 29 2012, 09:21 PM

Hehe... you are assuming that Ananda took example from Singapore. Its ok for expressing your thoughts.

Singapore is a small island country so definitely its so much easier to build the necessary infrastructure for Cable TV and IPTV. The situation is very different for countries with a much much larger area such as Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia. As I have mentioned before, there are various difficulties and reasons why Cable TV and IPTV may not be possible for nationwide coverage.

If Ananda wish to use example, he can also choose Liechtenstein, which is one of the smallest country in the world with only 62 sq. miles of about 34,000 population which is located on the Rhine River between Switzerland and Austria in the Alps. It will be much much much more easier to start Cable TV and IPTV there, LOL !

It will also be ridiculous and very stupid IF Ananda compare Malaysia with Singapore. I will also mention the same reasons as I have stated in my earlier post !



This post has been edited by jamesleetech: Mar 29 2012, 10:00 PM

haha.. if only direct tv available here.. 1st channel subsribe, is Adult channel.. hahahaha confirm my PVR HD full with that channel only

james,

Re-read the article. An unnamed source from Usaha Tegas made that comment not AK...

Thanks for your input. I re-read the article carefully. All my reply here is only about the "Satellite TV is dying" statement.

Ananda started Usaha Tegas and practically owns and control this company. The unnamed source is an official from this company who declined to be named due to ongoing discussions. That official did NOT state it was a personal opinion. So, any comments from within Usaha Tegas who made such ridiculous comment on "Sat TV is dying" means that Usaha Tegas is partly or wholely responsible for its own official's statement.

Yes, I publicly convey my apology to Ananda only for the part of the statement that did not come from his mouth. However, Ananda is wholely responsible for any official or unofficial statements that came from within Usaha Tegas... although Ananda did not deny or confirm the "statement" by the unnamed Usaha Tegas official which was reported by Reuters and published by The Malaysian Insider.

However, the ongoing unconfirmed direction and discussions by Usaha Tegas towards IPO ...and... the unnamed official statement from Usaha Tegas, means that I can reasonably be led to believe that Ananda (who controls the company) have the same believe that the "Satellite TV is dying".

I did not clarify clearly and wrongly stated that the "Satellite TV is dying" came from Ananda himself.

Whether it came from an unnamed official, whoever, or whomsoever or Ananda himself and as long as its a frivolous and uncollaborated statement coming from within Usaha Tegas, ... the "Satellite TV is dying" statement is ridiculous when they fully knew that satellite TV plays a crucial role for nationwide coverage and therefore is NOT dying as allegedly claimed. Yes, I fully agree that Sat TV is affected by cable IPTV and the trend is moving towards IPTV but to claim that satellite TV is dying is an overstatement in itself.

Reference on Ananda ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananda_Krishnan

This post has been edited by jamesleetech: Mar 29 2012, 11:41 PM

Hehe... normal behaviour for me but not everyone have the same opinion. If DirecTV is available and installed in your home, can I cum to your house ? Ooops... correction... can I come to your house ?

This post has been edited by jamesleetech: Mar 29 2012, 11:42 PM

That was a joke
Well , who said satelite tv is dying is not the issue but infact it is,Astro wl incur more costs end of the day.IPTV has variety ,a good internet connection and the world is yours.All astro cld do was go nationwide besides that what did it achieve,rain fade phased it out.If no monopoly astro wld hv died long ago,just with competetitors about to start and astro has felt the heat.The main idea to go into satelite is to lease transponders ,here is where their money is!

Assteruk's greed made them make a lot of wrong decisions. Assteruk chose Ku Band instead of other more resilient bands, probably because receiver and transmitter system cheaper (or SKMM won't let them use other bands). There is also warning by ITU that Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia not suitable for Ku Band deployment. They ignore.

Agree with smileguy, assteruk sub probably make up only a small portion of their income. The rest comes from leasing out bandwidth on MEASAT to content providers by their sister company (and yet they complain not enough bandwidth...)

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Mar 30 2012, 10:07 AM