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post Dec 5 2011, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(noien @ Dec 4 2011, 10:53 PM)
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but dono about alpha dc and panasonic dc
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Hw good is alpha and panasonic? At least Joven I70P is proven to b silent and good, supported by videos that i posted and also from LYN members feedback.

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post Dec 5 2011, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Dec 5 2011, 12:07 AM)
Hw good is alpha and panasonic? At least Joven I70P is proven to b silent and good, supported by videos that i posted and also from LYN members feedback.
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not sure about panasonic .. but alpha have models that are silent & quite last.
i'm using alpha S-series.

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post Dec 5 2011, 07:31 AM

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Just tested by i70P that purchased from zheilwane, seriously, I m really impressed by the silent sound shocking.gif
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post Dec 5 2011, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Dec 5 2011, 12:07 AM)
Hw good is alpha and panasonic? At least Joven I70P is proven to b silent and good, supported by videos that i posted and also from LYN members feedback.
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no review for alpha and panasonic but 1 of my 3unit joven cant even heat up the water temp and the tech stil cant rectify the prob
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post Dec 5 2011, 08:13 AM

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If it is still under warranty, u can PM me ur details, i will make sure they get it fixed
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post Dec 5 2011, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(Life_House @ Dec 5 2011, 12:27 AM)
not sure about panasonic ..  but alpha have models that are silent & quite last.
i'm using alpha S-series.
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Panasonic have a very long history of making water heater. Before you born. tongue.gif

I trust more on Panasonic than others new comer.
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post Dec 5 2011, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 5 2011, 08:32 AM)
Panasonic have a very long history of making water heater. Before you born. tongue.gif

I trust more on Panasonic than others new comer.
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true agreed, i've been using a national (pana) water heater for over 15yrs @ my hometown, and never gave me an issue.
another one here, 7yrs = no prob

and my new house, back to the basic panasonic

Not to mention, other brands are not really that cheap too (in relative to panasonic)
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post Dec 5 2011, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(noien @ Dec 5 2011, 08:05 AM)
no review for alpha and panasonic but 1 of my 3unit joven cant even heat up the water temp and the tech stil cant rectify the prob
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Panasonic is for sure the best quality but the design is not favoured by the users because not trendy enough.

"elephant bathing symbol"

However, Japanese company rather prefers number 1 in safety feature than design feature.

Sooner or later, panasonic will come out a lot of water heater media ads to expose in the market.

To note that, panasonic never made AC pump heater from the moment they started in producing the instant water heater 20 more years ago. Japanese know the consequences of the AC pump heater. So, they say no to problem and complaint.
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post Dec 5 2011, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Dec 5 2011, 08:13 AM)
If it is still under warranty, u can PM me ur details, i will make sure they get it fixed
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it is ok.i call them to ask their technician to come again.and the receptionist shakehead.gif

QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Dec 5 2011, 08:48 AM)
Panasonic is for sure the best quality but the design is not favoured by the users because not trendy enough.

"elephant bathing symbol"

However, Japanese company rather prefers number 1 in safety feature than design feature.

Sooner or later, panasonic will come out a lot of water heater media ads to expose in the market.

To note that, panasonic never made AC pump heater from the moment they started in producing the instant water heater 20 more years ago. Japanese know the consequences of the AC pump heater. So, they say no to problem and complaint.
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i do agree.i have a national for about 18 years of age too.
but panasonic dc pump came out just after i bought my joven sad.gif
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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Dec 5 2011, 08:48 AM)
To note that, panasonic never made AC pump heater from the moment they started in producing the instant water heater 20 more years ago. Japanese know the consequences of the AC pump heater. So, they say no to problem and complaint.
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how's the DC pump on the latest panasonic water heater ? is it good as joven / alpha in terms of noise

or better still how "lasting" is it ?
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it is ok.i call them to ask their technician to come again.and the receptionist  shakehead.gif
i do agree.i have a national for about 18 years of age too.
but panasonic dc pump came out just after i bought my joven sad.gif
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Huh?

Panasonic DC pump heater is not new in the market...Sudah lama dah Ada Liao leh..

Yes, last time they named National and now they convert it to Panasonic.
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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Dec 5 2011, 09:05 AM)
Huh?

Panasonic DC pump heater is not new in the market...Sudah lama dah Ada Liao leh..

Yes, last time they named National and now they convert it to Panasonic.
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any idea on the quality ?
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post Dec 5 2011, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Dec 5 2011, 09:05 AM)
Huh?

Panasonic DC pump heater is not new in the market...Sudah lama dah Ada Liao leh..

Yes, last time they named National and now they convert it to Panasonic.
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then my mistake.coz i din see any in jusco or electrical shop.they have alpha,joven,beebest and only basic model for panasonic.i saw the dc pump panasonic only last week when i went to buy panasonic cordless phone and the sales girl say it is a new model @@
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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Dec 5 2011, 08:48 AM)
Panasonic is for sure the best quality but the design is not favoured by the users because not trendy enough.

"elephant bathing symbol"

However, Japanese company rather prefers number 1 in safety feature than design feature.

Sooner or later, panasonic will come out a lot of water heater media ads to expose in the market.

To note that, panasonic never made AC pump heater from the moment they started in producing the instant water heater 20 more years ago. Japanese know the consequences of the AC pump heater. So, they say no to problem and complaint.
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It is not all just about that. It is about the OEM type vs the real manufacturing.

Panasonic have r&d, resource and manufacturing the heater. So they know from a to z about heater.

While others probably just OEM or buy the component and assembly themselves. Stick the brand and sell.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 5 2011, 09:10 AM)
It is not all just about that. It is about the OEM type vs the real manufacturing.

Panasonic have r&d, resource and manufacturing the heater. So they know from a to z about heater.

While others probably just OEM or buy the component and assembly themselves. Stick the brand and sell.
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+1

U have got the point.
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post Dec 5 2011, 12:13 PM

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Yeah...agree to iamsobloodysick....
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post Dec 31 2011, 12:23 AM

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is all the new modal (Joven or Panasonic) both didn't have option to disable the use of pump any more? Or I missing something on the manual?


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post Dec 31 2011, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Dec 31 2011, 12:23 AM)
is all the new modal (Joven or Panasonic) both didn't have option to disable the use of pump any more? Or I missing something on the manual?
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Joven i70P have a side button to disable the water pump
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post Dec 31 2011, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Dec 31 2011, 12:23 AM)
is all the new modal (Joven or Panasonic) both didn't have option to disable the use of pump any more? Or I missing something on the manual?
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Actually I don't see it need a switch. My heater do have a switch but never use it from day 1. The water pressure is pretty stable either low or high.
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Anyone using S200EP Alpha instant heater? Does it always that loud when the pump is on?

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