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Everdying
post Mar 23 2012, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(Joseph Hahn @ Mar 23 2012, 11:21 AM)
I looked at the site it's 448, 50 cheaper than Shashinki.

Yeah it is decent. Only problem is i have to take the hood off if i want to use the flash.

I've searched for it. It is cheaper but you won't be able use TTL with it right? Since the contact is slightly different even though the rest looks the same.
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i just walk into YL and RM420 is what they told me.
the site is probably marked up abit to cater for online orders.
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post Mar 24 2012, 03:53 PM

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I am going to email fuji Malaysia to join the queue for a new sensor. If they need
proof, I will send them this photo. biggrin.gif

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post Mar 24 2012, 07:02 PM

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i'm very curious what settings u use to get orbs?

here are my 2 miserable failed attempts at trying to get orbs.
left side is obviously underexposed just to show where the hotspots are.
all shot in manual mode.

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post Mar 24 2012, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 24 2012, 07:02 PM)
i'm very curious what settings u use to get orbs?

here are my 2 miserable failed attempts at trying to get orbs.
left side is obviously underexposed just to show where the hotspots are.
all shot in manual mode.

Try shooting from outside your car. On a sunny day ISO 100, speed 1/600, f5, 112mm. P mode
I tried all the modes all the same can produce orbs. If i increase ISO to 800 ,1/1800, f9 ,112mm
P mode the orbs are gone. Dont forget to view at 100%.
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post Mar 25 2012, 12:36 AM

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does this orb effect will happen on x100 also??
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post Mar 25 2012, 01:39 AM

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Hey anyone of you have a suggestion for a pouch to carry the x10, the leather case stand out too much.
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post Mar 25 2012, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(ZzZzz... @ Mar 25 2012, 12:36 AM)
does this orb effect will happen on x100 also??
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Only reported to affect X10 but some X10 owners are in denial and thinks their
camera are special and not affected. I am sure Fuji will be very happy these
owners will not be claiming the new sensors in May.

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QUOTE(enviro @ Mar 25 2012, 11:56 AM)
Only reported to affect X10 but some X10 owners are in denial and thinks their
camera are special and not affected. I am sure Fuji will be very happy these
owners will not  be claiming the new sensors in May.
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thanks for info ya
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post Mar 26 2012, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(enviro @ Mar 24 2012, 03:53 PM)
I am going to email fuji Malaysia to join the queue for a new sensor. If they need
proof, I will send them this photo.  biggrin.gif

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Lol that's really bad. I have yet to try shooting shiny things at daylight but at night it's proven to be as bad as your pic.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 24 2012, 07:02 PM)
i'm very curious what settings u use to get orbs?

here are my 2 miserable failed attempts at trying to get orbs.
left side is obviously underexposed just to show where the hotspots are.
all shot in manual mode.
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Maybe you're lucky to get a good copy!

QUOTE(xx1xx @ Mar 25 2012, 01:39 AM)
Hey anyone of you have a suggestion for a pouch to carry the x10, the leather case stand out too much.
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The reason i didn't get the pouch even though the seller say it's "free". tongue.gif I got myself a Kodak pouch. Somewhat triangular but can fit the camera with the hood on.

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post Mar 26 2012, 12:29 PM

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Where you get it? nowadays too many fakes in the market, i afraid kena cheated
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post Mar 26 2012, 05:03 PM

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I think probably cap ayam also but it does the job.
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post Mar 26 2012, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(Joseph Hahn @ Mar 26 2012, 12:11 PM)
Lol that's really bad. I have yet to try shooting shiny things at daylight but at night it's proven to be as bad as your pic.

Maybe you're lucky to get a good copy!

The reason i didn't get the pouch even though the seller say it's "free". tongue.gif I got myself a Kodak pouch. Somewhat triangular but can fit the camera with the hood on.
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its still down to certain settings used.
i guess this is a pretty decent thread on it.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp...essage=40791127
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post Mar 27 2012, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 26 2012, 06:34 PM)
its still down to certain settings used.
i guess this is a pretty decent thread on it.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp...essage=40791127
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Yes, it's due to settings. I have tried the settings from this site, and I get the star-shaped effect instead of the orb result! simply brilliant!
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp...essage=40595479

You should try it!


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post Mar 27 2012, 08:19 AM

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I did try shooting my phone LED. sweat.gif

At F2 it's perfectly round but at at F2.2 there's a nice starry shape around the orb. sweat.gif It's because of the aperture blade moving, right?

High ISO not so bad la because of the noise. Only ISO 100-800 it seems bad.

Eh why don't we post pics taken by the X10 or the X10 itself instead of talking about orb the whole time? tongue.gif
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post Mar 27 2012, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(Joseph Hahn @ Mar 26 2012, 12:11 PM)
Lol that's really bad. I have yet to try shooting shiny things at daylight but at night it's proven to be as bad as your pic.

Maybe you're lucky to get a good copy!

The reason i didn't get the pouch even though the seller say it's "free". tongue.gif I got myself a Kodak pouch. Somewhat triangular but can fit the camera with the hood on.
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This is normal result for ALL X10 until new sensor is fitted. You just have to
want to shoot to get it. After that it is easy to replicate.

Good copy bad copy means quality control problem at production. Fuji
would not resort to expensive sensor replacement if this is the case.


Added on March 27, 2012, 8:35 am
QUOTE(Joseph Hahn @ Mar 27 2012, 08:19 AM)
I did try shooting my phone LED. sweat.gif

At F2 it's perfectly round but at at F2.2 there's a nice starry shape around the orb. sweat.gif It's because of the aperture blade moving, right?

High ISO not so bad la because of the noise. Only ISO 100-800 it seems bad.

Eh why don't we post pics taken by the X10 or the X10 itself instead of talking about orb the whole time? tongue.gif
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Shoot a few photos night and day to get orbs. After sensor replacement shoot the
same scenes again at same settings to see if problem is solved. nod.gif


Added on March 27, 2012, 8:57 am
QUOTE(redmeanmachine @ Mar 27 2012, 01:42 AM)
Yes, it's due to settings. I have tried the settings from this site, and I get the star-shaped effect instead of the orb result! simply brilliant!
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp...essage=40595479

You should try it!
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Yes we know how to avoid orbs. It is using higher ISO and avoiding bright light source.
We X10 owners have to thank those owners who agressively attacked Fuji on this
issue until they gave in and promised us new sensors. If they kept quite Fuji would have
waited until they launch X20 ? to solve the issue and save tons of money. whistling.gif

This post has been edited by enviro: Mar 27 2012, 09:02 AM
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post Mar 27 2012, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(enviro @ Mar 27 2012, 08:30 AM)
This is normal result for ALL X10 until new sensor is fitted. You just have to
want to shoot to get it. After that it is easy to replicate.

Good copy  bad copy means quality control problem at production. Fuji
would not resort to expensive sensor replacement if this is the case.


Added on March 27, 2012, 8:35 am

Shoot a few photos night and day to get orbs. After sensor replacement shoot the
same scenes again at same settings to see if problem is solved.  nod.gif


Added on March 27, 2012, 8:57 am

Yes we know how to avoid orbs. It is using higher ISO  and avoiding bright light source.
We X10 owners have to thank those owners who agressively attacked Fuji on this
issue until they gave in and promised us new sensors. If they kept quite Fuji would have
waited until they launch X20 ? to solve the issue and save tons of money.  whistling.gif
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btw, enviro, how to post pics here? when i use the 'img' tag, it is expecting some kind of http link. is there a way to upload the pic here directly from my hard disk?
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post Mar 27 2012, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(redmeanmachine @ Mar 27 2012, 11:00 AM)
btw, enviro, how to post pics here? when i use the 'img' tag, it is expecting some kind of http link. is there a way to upload the pic here directly from my hard disk?
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I copy from photobucket and paste here. Maybe others can explain better.

http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.ph...pic,1228.0.html

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post Mar 27 2012, 12:55 PM

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You can add the pic as attachment in the post or use flickr, imageshack etc.


Added on March 28, 2012, 5:02 pm
QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 27 2012, 09:02 PM)
oh u finally broke down and bought the ef-20 tongue.gif
let us know how it performs.
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I got it for 2 reasons. I want to use the flash without having to take off the hood. Using the internal flash with the hood is a bad idea. sweat.gif
Secondly, can save a little bit of the camera battery. Haven't got a spare yet.

It is very light without batteries. It also feels flimsy especially the battery cover and the built in diffuser. This thing is definitely overpriced for the build quality. moneyflies.gif

But you can fold the rotating part inside so it's small enough to put in your pocket. And power wise i think it's good enough for the occasional bounce flash usage.

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This post has been edited by Joseph Hahn: Mar 28 2012, 11:17 PM
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post Mar 29 2012, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(Joseph Hahn @ Mar 27 2012, 12:55 PM)
You can add the pic as attachment in the post or use flickr, imageshack etc.


Added on March 28, 2012, 5:02 pmI got it for 2 reasons. I want to use the flash without having to take off the hood. Using the internal flash with the hood is a bad idea. sweat.gif
Secondly, can save a little bit of the camera battery. Haven't got a spare yet.

It is very light without batteries. It also feels flimsy especially the battery cover and the built in diffuser. This thing is definitely overpriced for the build quality. moneyflies.gif

But you can fold the rotating part inside so it's small enough to put in your pocket. And power wise i think it's good enough for the occasional bounce flash usage.

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Nice !

Around RM 490 right ?
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QUOTE(Joseph Hahn @ Mar 27 2012, 12:55 PM)
You can add the pic as attachment in the post or use flickr, imageshack etc.


Added on March 28, 2012, 5:02 pmI got it for 2 reasons. I want to use the flash without having to take off the hood. Using the internal flash with the hood is a bad idea. sweat.gif
Secondly, can save a little bit of the camera battery. Haven't got a spare yet.

It is very light without batteries. It also feels flimsy especially the battery cover and the built in diffuser. This thing is definitely overpriced for the build quality. moneyflies.gif

But you can fold the rotating part inside so it's small enough to put in your pocket. And power wise i think it's good enough for the occasional bounce flash usage.

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