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 LYN Proton Wira Club (LYN-PWC) V-XXVII, Come in & let's discuss about Wira

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salimbest83
post Jul 17 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 17 2012, 09:32 PM)
the best to cheat target idling is to set it slowly when engine is off... ... adjust a bit then start the car and wait n see....slow but it works where it doesnt screw up the target idling for parking the stepper motor
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only work on MMC rite? sad.gif
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post Jul 17 2012, 09:59 PM

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So I went to the workshop earlier today. Total damage 1K liao, damn. There seemed to be a leakage at the brakes pump, which somehow the drips of the fluid is not seen under the car. And my total body also needs a change, this is what caused my engine to cut off while driving. I had it cleaned only last time although the mechanic told it already has a problem. Along w the labour charge, brake fluids and other smaller parts need to be paid, I hope this problem won't happen again, at least for a year or two. Or three. Or four possibly tongue.gif
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post Jul 17 2012, 10:40 PM

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Dear seniors,

I've got an enquiry.. is it ok that we disconnect the thermostat of our car? (especially those carburetor Wira's)

Appreciate your feedback. Thank you.


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post Jul 18 2012, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 17 2012, 09:32 PM)
the best to cheat target idling is to set it slowly when engine is off... ... adjust a bit then start the car and wait n see....slow but it works where it doesnt screw up the target idling for parking the stepper motor
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post Jul 18 2012, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 17 2012, 09:32 PM)
the best to cheat target idling is to set it slowly when engine is off... ... adjust a bit then start the car and wait n see....slow but it works where it doesnt screw up the target idling for parking the stepper motor
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I thought normally adjust when engine idling is better? so can see while adjusting..
Mine is 1k by the way, with or without aircond.. thanks to FICD laugh.gif
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post Jul 18 2012, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(dr.who1977 @ Jul 17 2012, 10:40 PM)
Dear seniors,

I've got an enquiry.. is it ok that we disconnect the thermostat of our car? (especially those carburetor Wira's)

Appreciate your feedback. Thank you.
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for wira carb is ok it doesn't trigger the warm up mapping because u dont have any ECU. However why do you want to remove the Thermo? If you remove it, you wont have the correct cooling cycle edi... the reason the thermo was there is to limit the flow so that the water can cool down more at the radiator side before return back to the engine and maintain optimum temp for the engine and engine oil.


Added on July 18, 2012, 8:28 am
QUOTE(Lineage @ Jul 18 2012, 01:51 AM)
I thought normally adjust when engine idling is better? so can see while adjusting..
Mine is 1k by the way, with or without aircond.. thanks to FICD  laugh.gif
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you cannot adjust while the car is on.... this would screw up the sensor home parking position then till the last u cant do anything then u put FICD.

FYI, FICD is not solving anything.... because it cannot compensate rev during power steering max load, fan on rpm drop load, fuel surge load and etc. basically u have lost all the functions.

This post has been edited by mxsteven: Jul 18 2012, 08:28 AM
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post Jul 18 2012, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 18 2012, 08:25 AM)
for wira carb is ok it doesn't trigger the warm up mapping because u dont have any ECU. However why do you want to remove the Thermo? If you remove it, you wont have the correct cooling cycle edi... the reason the thermo was there is to limit the flow so that the water can cool down more at the radiator side before return back to the engine and maintain optimum temp for the engine and engine oil.


Added on July 18, 2012, 8:28 am


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Opps, I got rid of my Thermo fro my VDO few months ago, anything need to be watched out for? except praying?
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post Jul 18 2012, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Jul 17 2012, 09:38 PM)
only work on MMC rite? sad.gif
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Yup MMC only


Added on July 18, 2012, 11:29 am
QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 18 2012, 10:46 AM)
Opps, I got rid of my Thermo fro my VDO few months ago, anything need to be watched out for? except praying?
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just install it back.... coz u will drive more on warm up mapping where FC bad...

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post Jul 18 2012, 02:49 PM

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Guys, i'm going to replace my front and rear absorber and spring...what bush and mounting i should change along with the new absorber and spring?...
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post Jul 18 2012, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 18 2012, 11:28 AM)
Yup MMC only


Added on July 18, 2012, 11:29 am

just install it back.... coz u will drive more on warm up mapping where FC bad...
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you mean for every moment I start my car, it will take longer time to heat engine up?
so after the engine/ engine oil heated up, would engine mapping turn to normal??

I removed it because of worrying the thing spoil and presumably will cause an overheating.
have you ever concerned? or heard of similar story? or just me being too over cautious hmm.gif


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QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 18 2012, 08:12 PM)
you mean for every moment I start my car, it will take longer time to heat engine up?
so after the engine/ engine oil heated up, would  engine mapping turn to normal??

I removed it because of worrying the thing spoil and presumably will cause an overheating.
have you ever concerned? or heard of similar story? or just me being too over cautious hmm.gif
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not that your engine takes longer time to warm up.. i think wat he was trying to say is your car is warmed up, but yet your car still run on engine warm up mapping and hence leads to higher FC
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post Jul 18 2012, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 18 2012, 08:12 PM)
you mean for every moment I start my car, it will take longer time to heat engine up?
so after the engine/ engine oil heated up, would  engine mapping turn to normal??

I removed it because of worrying the thing spoil and presumably will cause an overheating.
have you ever concerned? or heard of similar story? or just me being too over cautious hmm.gif
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during highway ur car will be below operating temp and when traffic jam, your car cant cool enough fast from the radiator and the water edi supplied back and recirculate so it is more bad actually...
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post Jul 19 2012, 04:07 PM

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Guys, actually eh, what's the possible cause for the engine to go jerking while driving ah?
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post Jul 20 2012, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 18 2012, 11:50 PM)
during highway ur car will be below operating temp and when traffic jam, your car cant cool enough fast from the radiator and the water edi supplied back and recirculate so it is more bad actually...
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might consider install back and observe the differences then.
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post Jul 20 2012, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 20 2012, 09:50 AM)
might consider install back and observe the differences then.
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remember for thermostat don't install those chapalang brand. Better get back original part. Those ciplak thermostat very fast will jam and it wont open when hot then might cause the pipe to blow.
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post Jul 20 2012, 10:16 AM

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I'm running on Natural Gas, which has higher operating temperature, thus maybe I should drive without it?

BTW, what is the usage of these type of thermostat then, any monster wira of yours using something like this?


"Billion thermostat mitsubishi 71 degree - wira,gsr 4g93T,4g1x,4g9x,evo1-3&vr4
RM65
- 100% Brand NEW
- Billion thermostat mitsubishi 71 degree model 27846
- wira, gsr 4g93T, 4g1x, 4g9x, evo 1-3 & vr4

http://topsoundperformance.blogspot.com/20...-71-degree.html

Introducing the Billion range of Performance Thermostats, the "Billion Super Thermo".

Thermostats maintains optimum water temperature, controlling cool-down down and overheating, ensuring maximum engine operating efficiency.

Compared to normal thermostats, the Billion Super Thermo reduces the valve opening temperature by 10-20 degrees (depending on application), thus controlling power drops when the engine heats up.

The item is a drop-in direct replacement for your OEM unit. Billion has made the Super Thermos with two opening temperature settings."

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post Jul 20 2012, 01:54 PM

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Guys, if i change my wira 1.3 front and rear to new 1.3 abs + Heavy Duty spring, will my car look tilt front?...or its better to use normal spring for the front and Heavy Duty spring for the rear?...

anyone can share exp in using front and rear wira 1.6 abs+spring on wira 1.3?..

BTW, my wira 1.3 is using 195/50/15 tyre...
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post Jul 20 2012, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(SinS @ Jul 20 2012, 01:54 PM)
Guys, if i change my wira 1.3 front and rear to new 1.3 abs + Heavy Duty spring, will my car look tilt front?...or its better to use normal spring for the front and Heavy Duty spring for the rear?...

anyone can share exp in using front and rear wira 1.6 abs+spring on wira 1.3?..

BTW, my wira 1.3 is using 195/50/15 tyre...
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Not really sure on this. But I'll share my friend's ex-Iswara case.
He changed the spring to higher-up and stiffer, since he needs to carry heavy boxes in his car's rear-trunk and rear-seats most of the time, and sometimes leave the boxes there overnight. i.e. 24-hours loaded. Boxes total weight about 100-200kg at any one time.

Without the boxes, the car looks high-up. Big gap at fender, 5-6 fingers easily. Bouncy if go fast.
Once loaded, looks normal and more stable on highway. Also will not scratch bottom when going bump.

Later he changed to pickup truck.

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post Jul 20 2012, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(SinS @ Jul 20 2012, 01:54 PM)
Guys, if i change my wira 1.3 front and rear to new 1.3 abs + Heavy Duty spring, will my car look tilt front?...or its better to use normal spring for the front and Heavy Duty spring for the rear?...

anyone can share exp in using front and rear wira 1.6 abs+spring on wira 1.3?..

BTW, my wira 1.3 is using 195/50/15 tyre...
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Mine is front tilt too, have tried so many ways d... For rear abs, u can use back your ori abs... To make rear higher can use 1.6 / waja spring... But personally I will recommend 1.6 spring coz it is harder, hence make the rear firmer, therefore higher... Waja spring might be too high and make your car swerve a lot when cornering... AnywAY, if u still not satisfied with the height of 1.6, u can still change the bush... Stock bush is 1inch... Can change to 2inch or 3inch... smile.gif
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Jul 20 2012, 04:07 PM)
Mine is front tilt too, have tried so many ways d... For rear abs, u can use back your ori abs... To make rear higher can use 1.6 / waja spring... But personally I will recommend 1.6 spring coz it is harder, hence make the rear firmer, therefore higher... Waja spring might be too high and make your car swerve a lot when cornering... AnywAY, if u still not satisfied with the height of 1.6, u can still change the bush... Stock bush is 1inch... Can change to 2inch or 3inch... smile.gif
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Bro, u driving wira 1.3 also?... biggrin.gif
Thanks for sharing your experience bro...really help alot... thumbup.gif

I'm thinking of using wira 1.3 abs + heavy duty spring for front and wira 1.6 abs + normal 1.6 spring for the rear...
Do you think this setup will make the car look balance or the rear will be a little higher than the front?...hopefully it's not tilt front with this setup...

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