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crusher
post Sep 29 2014, 06:57 PM

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Hi guys,

I am buying company car, converting it to individual car. Today, I've prepared all the forms to transfer the name in JPJ but was asked to prepare for the biometrix thumbprint from seller side in Johor. Basically the seller is from Johor while I am from Selangor.

I've came across with few things to clarify.

1. I am the buyer, can I bring the car for inspection to Puspakom on behalf of seller in Selangor as the car is with me now? If yes, I just need to bring the Geran? (Geran is already with me)

2. To process the biometrix thumbprint in JPJ Johor, we still need to go through the inspection test (RM30) first right? During the biometrix thumbprint, do the seller need to bring anything with him other than IC and JPJK3 form? He need details from me such as my name, IC number, address, but is it fine without the signature?

I've made an appointment to do the inspection tomorrow morning, hopefully can get it done by tomorrow.

It is quite urgent due to the road tax expiry date is on 9th October 2014.

Thanks for your replies.

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post Sep 30 2014, 10:42 AM

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hi..anyone know what type of inspection puspakom will do for transfer ownership checking? what will they checking? is it just tinted, 6 car pillars, chasis/engine number? mind to share? TQ
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post Oct 1 2014, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(blurry_mind82 @ Sep 30 2014, 11:42 AM)
hi..anyone know what type of inspection puspakom will do for transfer ownership checking? what will they checking? is it just tinted, 6 car pillars, chasis/engine number? mind to share? TQ
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If b5 inspection( without oustanding loan, cash buyer), yes.
B7 will be more thing to check

This post has been edited by youngman28: Oct 1 2014, 04:14 PM
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post Oct 1 2014, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(crusher @ Sep 29 2014, 07:57 PM)
Hi guys,

I am buying company car, converting it to individual car. Today, I've prepared all the forms to transfer the name in JPJ but was asked to prepare for the biometrix thumbprint from seller side in Johor. Basically the seller is from Johor while I am from Selangor.

I've came across with few things to clarify.

1. I am the buyer, can I bring the car for inspection to Puspakom on behalf of seller in Selangor as the car is with me now? If yes, I just need to bring the Geran? (Geran is already with me)

Yes, original geran is need

2. To process the biometrix thumbprint in JPJ Johor, we still need to go through the inspection test (RM30) first right? During the biometrix thumbprint, do the seller need to bring anything with him other than IC and JPJK3 form? He need details from me such as my name, IC number, address, but is it fine without the signature?

Yes, get the b5 puspakom result  first,
Yes, ic and form, bring his thumb also.
Fine, without signature, after that jpj will issue u with a small note called" surat perjanjian jualbeli "with you. U need to go to any jpj nearby to do the name transfer(valid within 7 days only)

I've made an appointment to do the inspection tomorrow morning, hopefully can get it done by tomorrow.

It is quite urgent due to the road tax expiry date is on 9th October 2014.

Thanks for your replies.
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post Oct 16 2014, 05:44 PM

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Ok ppl, need your help. I am buying a car which is currently being financed by a bank, and the owner is a foreigner. I intend to use the same bank as the rate they offered is competitive. Would like to have feedback - or suggestions -

- i sent my Mykad photostat and 3 months salary credited via screenshot to the bank. They offered 3.5% per annum which is standard. Assuming I agree, will they prepare a loan agreement while asking me or seller to do the following

- me and seller sign an agreement to purchase the car with reg card details with deposit of x amount.
- get the car inspected at Puspakom to get approval slip to bring back to the bank
- bank proceeds to transfer and close the early settlement amount in the seller account
- i sign the loan agreement and then buy a bank draft for the difference of the loan amount to seller.
- I pay for the all the charges - puspakom, - when do i pay the transfer fees to bank etc
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post Oct 20 2014, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(ReadySteadyGo @ Oct 16 2014, 06:44 PM)
Ok ppl, need your help. I am buying a car which is currently being financed by a bank, and the owner is a foreigner. I intend to use the same bank as the rate they offered is competitive. Would like to have feedback - or suggestions -

- i sent my Mykad photostat and 3 months salary credited via screenshot to the bank. They offered 3.5% per annum which is standard. Assuming I agree, will they prepare a loan agreement while asking me or seller to do the following

- me and seller sign an agreement to purchase the car with reg card details with deposit of x amount.
- get the car inspected at Puspakom to get approval slip to bring back to the bank
- bank proceeds to transfer and close the early settlement amount in the seller account
- i sign the loan agreement and then buy a bank draft for the difference of the loan amount to seller.
- I pay for the all the charges - puspakom, - when do i pay the transfer fees to bank etc
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It all boil down to the bank requirement, bank might ask runner to do the puspakom inspection and name transfer because it much faster and they known what need to prepare for b7 inspection, then all the fees willl charge to owner, it also prevent the car lost due to some incident because you are not the legal owner yet before name transfer.



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post Oct 20 2014, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(youngman28 @ Oct 20 2014, 10:28 AM)
It all boil down to the bank requirement, bank might ask runner to do the puspakom inspection and name transfer because it much faster and they known what need to prepare for b7 inspection, then all the fees willl charge to owner, it also prevent the car lost due to some incident because you are not the legal owner yet before name transfer.
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I see - i just wanted to save $ instead of paying runner. If its just 100rm or so then ok because of my working hours during the week cannot get out of office
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post Oct 22 2014, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(ReadySteadyGo @ Oct 20 2014, 06:30 PM)
I see - i just wanted to save $ instead of paying runner. If its just 100rm or so then ok because of my working hours during the week cannot get out of office
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For buying car with loan, it kinda difficult to same money by avoiding the runner fees, the puspakom inspection b7 was different with b5 which required more inspection point, other than than, the owner or bank might not allow you to do this since the car still belong to them, they might not want to get into this calculated risk, and the fees usually pay by buyer itself.

There are at least 4~500 runner fees, runner fee on puspakom inspection, name transfer etc, and jpj have a standardisr fee for all this.

This post has been edited by youngman28: Oct 22 2014, 10:46 PM
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post Oct 25 2014, 06:31 PM

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Done the puspakom inspection yesterday. One very important point for all future car owners who are buying a used car with tint film. Please remove all tint films as Puspakom does not approve your B5 and B7 if your car comes with films. I checked with the tint installer who informed me on this. Your car may comply with JPJ. But definitely not with Puspakom. I saw a lot of cars with their films removed when they lined up in the inspection lane.
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post Nov 8 2014, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(ReadySteadyGo @ Oct 25 2014, 06:31 PM)
Done the puspakom inspection yesterday. One very important point for all future car owners who are buying a used car with tint film. Please remove all tint films as Puspakom does not approve your B5 and B7 if your car comes with films. I checked with the tint installer who informed me on this. Your car may comply with JPJ. But definitely not with Puspakom. I saw a lot of cars with their films removed when they lined up in the inspection lane.
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I just did my inspection, as you said there are some cars which the tint was removed, now its because the tint does not comply the requirement...70% front screen/ 50% on both sides, this is the standard visible light transmission allowed, if the car/tint is lower then puspakom have the right to tear off the tint in order to passed the inspection

Callup the nearest puspakom and made a appoinment booking for your inspection for date n time
1) inspection fees rm30 for cars/suv, only bring your registration card
2) fillup details at counter- borang B5 if the car loan fully paid
3) borang B7 if it is still on loan
4) inspection on chassis no/ rust/ engine modification/ tint ...etc
5) after inspection they will give you a sijil pemeriksaan tukar milik, this is valid for One month after which you got to do another inspection if ownership is not transfered by this period

Now go to Jpj website and download and print these forms-
1) TM-1...checklist of what to bring for change of ownership
2) TMAB ...surat akuan if buyer cannot go together with seller to change name, photocopy buyer's Ic n verify with any commissioner of oath, sign n chop, attach ic on the form
3) JPJK3...fillup these 02 forms in total with buyer n seller details
4) JPJK2...your car registration card
5) photocopy of seller n buyer IC's
6) borang B5...bring along during change of name
7) prepare rm100 for fees/ Rm150 if car is still on bankloan

Before going to Jpj and do all these-
1) cancel your roadtax first other wise seller cannot cancel the insurance and claim back Ncd/cash, proceed to step 2 IF roadtax have expired
2) then cancel your insurance
3) proceed to Jpj and do change of ownership...02 days process but only 04hrs in total running here n there

Iam not too sure and may be wrong...runners cannot do the puspakom inspection or transfer of ownership on behalf of seller UNLESS they are registered company "runners", etc Naza/Merc companies, but the truth is why pay hundreds of RM to them whereelse I only spend Rm150+ petrol to do it on my own!! Do it on your own, its easy and fast and curb all these nonsense for nothing, paying rm250 for inspection/ rm300 for ownership change is ridiculous!!



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post Nov 18 2014, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(ReadySteadyGo @ Oct 25 2014, 06:31 PM)
Done the puspakom inspection yesterday. One very important point for all future car owners who are buying a used car with tint film. Please remove all tint films as Puspakom does not approve your B5 and B7 if your car comes with films. I checked with the tint installer who informed me on this. Your car may comply with JPJ. But definitely not with Puspakom. I saw a lot of cars with their films removed when they lined up in the inspection lane.
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mine failed because of front screen. tear off front tint only .. after that ok. they allow 5% tolerance ie rear up until 45%.
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post Nov 18 2014, 11:42 PM

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Hi all.

Im selling a car without loan.
Read all the posts.thks to all.
Ive question, i want to hold the insurance due to ncd, can i? How long can hold without car? Do i need to cancel both road tax and insurance as well? If yes, how?
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post Nov 21 2014, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(speedo @ Nov 18 2014, 11:42 PM)
Hi all.

Im selling a car without loan.
Read all the posts.thks to all.
Ive question, i want to hold the insurance due to ncd, can i? How long can hold without car? Do i need to cancel both road tax and insurance as well? If yes, how?
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1) you cannot hold the insurance due to ncd claim, when you canx the insurance the ncd will be paid back in dues, then use the Ncd for your new car insurance

2) after puspakom inspection, the Borang B5 is valid for one month, that is how long you can hold the road tax/insurance

3) to sell your car you need to take the Borang B5 to Jpj to canx the roadtax, then drive to your insurance co and canx the insurance cause insurance agent wants to see the canceled roadtax before they can canx your insurance, IF you dont do these step by step Jpj will not entertain you, and if you dont canx roadtax/insurance the buyer's insurance agent will not issue a new insurance policy BECAUSE the registration card is still under your name ( they want the original copy to issue new policy)

**the steps/answers are just 2 chats above this box, plse read carefully before u asked another questions**
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Ahaha. Thks mate. Appreciate that
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post Nov 23 2014, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(speedo @ Nov 19 2014, 12:42 AM)
Hi all.

Im selling a car without loan.
Read all the posts.thks to all.
Ive question, i want to hold the insurance due to ncd, can i? How long can hold without car? Do i need to cancel both road tax and insurance as well? If yes, how?
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It depend on the jpj officer.
I have selling and buying two car recently, but the officer allow the new buyer continue with existing roadtax, what buyer need is to get their new insurance ready before to get the name transfer. This mostly due to the roadtax was about rm55, and seller no interest to claim it back.
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QUOTE(youngman28 @ Nov 23 2014, 03:21 PM)
It depend on the jpj officer.
I have selling and buying  two car recently, but the officer allow the new buyer continue with existing roadtax, what buyer need is to get their new insurance ready before to get the name transfer. This mostly due to the roadtax was about rm55, and seller no interest  to claim it back.
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Abit troublesome....roadtax valid for 6mths, then new buyer in 6months time got to buy new radtax again, when these happens buyer got to buy new insurance policy, overall in short buyer runs to Jpj 3 times a year mad.gif
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Panduan Tukar Hakmilik Secara Sukarela requires the following documents but was is the one in bold, where can i get it?

PRIVATE VEHICLE (Individual Private Vehicle)
-2 copies of Checklist Form TM-1 (Pind.1/2012); TM-2
-2 copies of form JPJK3 that has been completed and signed by the new owner; Borang JPJ K3A
-Original Vehicle Endorsement Certificate (JPJK2);
-Copy of registered owner's and new owner's identification documents using TM-AB (if not present during submission of application) * for individual and sole proprietor company category only; TM-AB
-Original and copy of identification document of representative (if application is submitted by representative).
-Letter/stub of ownership claim cancellation by the registered owner (other than e-Hakmilik);
-A valid Ownership Transfer Inspection Report by PUSPAKOM (www.puspakom.com.my) (other than motorcycles)
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Hi,

I'm seller and i had done the puspakom and roadtax+insurance termination.

Now prepare to proceed Ownership transfer at JpJ.
The Form TM-AB is require if either one parties(buyer/seller) cannot appear when appeal ownership transfer at JPJ ?


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QUOTE(ReadySteadyGo @ Oct 16 2014, 05:44 PM)
Ok ppl, need your help. I am buying a car which is currently being financed by a bank, and the owner is a foreigner. I intend to use the same bank as the rate they offered is competitive. Would like to have feedback - or suggestions -

- i sent my Mykad photostat and 3 months salary credited via screenshot to the bank. They offered 3.5% per annum which is standard. Assuming I agree, will they prepare a loan agreement while asking me or seller to do the following

- me and seller sign an agreement to purchase the car with reg card details with deposit of x amount.
- get the car inspected at Puspakom to get approval slip to bring back to the bank
- bank proceeds to transfer and close the early settlement amount in the seller account
- i sign the loan agreement and then buy a bank draft for the difference of the loan amount to seller.
- I pay for the all the charges - puspakom, - when do i pay the transfer fees to bank etc
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Hi there.

I am actually facing a same situation as you where I am buying a car which is currently being financed by a bank, and the owner is a foreigner.

May I know what is the process?

Thanks alot in advance.
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post Feb 15 2015, 09:18 AM

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Is it urgent because CNY is around the corner. In short, the foreigner should settle the outstanding balance and obtain the release letter. With that you and him can go to puspakom to do the ownership transfer and you should also have your loan approval already completed. It's easier of your bank is the same as the foreigner instead of 2 separate banks which will incur longer time and costs ie runner etc.

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