Try entering the SSID of your wi-fi manually into your Xoom and see if it can connect.

The Windows phone hardware specs and os are controlled by Microsoft. The manufacturers are not even allowed to put their own UI layer to distinguish their products like Android manufacturers. Every WP7 phone works and feels the same. Microsoft can't treat Nokia special or nobody else will produce WP7 phones on an unlevel playing field.

What's more, other brand have more choices of OS. They can have WP7 or Android or some other (even official MeeGo, which was originally planned but project abandon for another); and when talk about specs, the koreans and taiwanese brand will always/usually be the fastest, latest and price also maybe better.

Currently SE is catching up, they're basically only falling behind in hardware specs (still no dual core device yet).

Now the question is, can Nokia catch up? They're emphasizing on WP7, and some on Symbian; For those who still like/prefer Symbian, may still support Symbian, especially for those who have invested on apps on Symbian OS. If future Symbian is no longer supported or when they want to switch, the question is, how should Nokia convince these people to switch over to WP7 (or WP8)? Why should they not go for Android instead? It's obvious which is the more popular and preferred OS right now, although we're not sure of the future, and for the apps they invested in Symbian, since it's under Nokia OVI account, can the similar apps which is available for WP available to them without re-purchase again (provided they're using Nokia phone and MS have worked something with their market for support of Nokia OVI account).

Finally, as of current, I think if the Symbian users were to choose to switch, I think many would choose to go for Android instead? I think Nokia need to seriously consider and take into account of this.

The Nokia N9 PR1.2 update to come with lots of improvements

yep lol.. they even created one video and boast about the design of lumia 800?
but isn't that originally designed for n9 -.-
not too sure if they can compete with better specs though, microsoft has been setting strong benchmark on it to control fragmentation.. let's just hope the special partnership with microsoft can allow nokia to alter the inner part of the OS in Apollo then.. Orz

I agree with hardware specs, but I think for upcoming Apollo OS, Nokia gained the advantage to whatever they want, as claimed by Elop (but then..not sure if other OEMs able to do the same too la )
Well talk about treating every OEMs equally.. what about google and motorola acquisition?
Until now Android still selling like hot cakes though (cuz there's no OS to shift atm? )
We consumer..can only wait and see what these big companies wanna do :/

Has Google given Motorola any special treatment compared to other manufacturers like giving them Android 4.0 first? Even though Motorola is bought over by Google they still have to treat all manufacturers equally unless they want to change the game plan. Some manufacturers are looking for backups just in case like Samsung-Tizen but no special treatment has emerged yet.

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Added on November 30, 2011, 11:37 amThe tragedy is that Nokia is going to wind down Symbian even though it is still selling well in developing countries. As N9 is the last Meego phone according to Elop this means Nokia will focus exclusively on WP7 phones after 2015. This is a very risky strategy as Nokia is tying its fate to WP7 which has practically flopped in the market (Global share 1.5% in Q32011).

This post has been edited by KennyKB: Nov 30 2011, 11:37 AM

Not to mention that other brands are also offering WP device and possibly much better specs, price and appealing design.

With only WP OS, what will be the unique selling point? And how to capture customer's attention, especially when most people are looking at Android. Moreover, most Nokia Customers are actually from their Symbian devices; they need to think carefully else they may loose their a lot of their customer. Even now, many already switch to Android or iOS. Can the Mango changes everything like the Apple?

This post has been edited by Andy214: Nov 30 2011, 12:04 PM

The only unique selling point of Lumia 800 right now is the attractive physical look stolen from N9. On the software side Nokia tried to distinguish with Drive and Ovi music store but both have been hacked and can be installed on all WP7 phones. Lumia will suffer from having no front camera unlike other WP7 models from Samsung, HTC and LG.

Symbian customers are more likely to go to Android than WP7 which is a dumbed down os. Symbian users are used to having home screens, widgets, Java apps, USB mass storage, micro-SD card, internet tethering, wi-fi hotspot, etc which are not available in WP7 due to os restriction.

Mango is just playing catch up with ios 4 and Android 2.3. It has not even caught up fully with these old os but they have already moved to ios5 and Android 4.0. The chance for a big Mango success is very slim. Its worse limitation is no micro-SD card support (copied from ios). Giving free cloud storage doesn't work in many countries where data charges are high.

i like lumia 800 bcos it has a dedicated camera button. thats all. it is a nokia n9 after all - whoever that buys the lumia is dumb la....smaller screen bcos the icon below takes up some real estate space already

I downloaded a 720p video from YouTube; Play in N8, smooth.
Play in N9.... very lag, like 1fps or slower

video playback for certain codec (and profile) is not optimized just yet
you might have to wait

Wasn't it discussed previously that this is a hardware limitation? Our N9 can only play baseline 720p video and not mainline or highline. Andrekua knows a lot about this. He says it is inferior hardware.

720p is like that in n9, whether avi, mp4 or mkv. Already extensively discussed in maemo forum, sthing abt lack of certain chip, n8 has it, n9 no.
vlc player also cannot play 720p, only addition is vlc can play rmvb.

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Nov 30 2011, 02:58 PM

Folders have come to N9 via an app. Check this out:

http://www.my-meego.com/software/applicati...Auto=737&faq=13


This post has been edited by KennyKB: Nov 30 2011, 03:04 PM

well, in addition to all the negatives already stated abt lumia 800, battery life also is a problem. Lots of complaints in nokia support forums.

me more glad n9 is released in Msia, the mat sallehs in US,Europe no choice, unless they import.


This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Nov 30 2011, 03:04 PM

Denying consumers in major markets from N9 is Elop's strategy for Lumia's success. If Lumia is good why can't it compete fairly instead of using this desperate tactic?

Not sure how much can it help.

Yes, I believe so too.

Not all 720p, I have many 720p, so far only one of it having such problem.

h.264 baseline profile should play without problem
you may want to convert to that format/profile, not too familiar with all these
i have been watching podcasts in Xvid large format (not sure what resolution it is in), so far so good

I tested with 720p mkv 6 channels,720p mkv h264 - these are direct downloads. For tvb series, 720p mkv, 720p mp4. These cannot play but not an issue for me.
90% of the vids i download are avi, xvid anyway.
smaller file size compared to 720p.

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Nov 30 2011, 03:56 PM

Not really know about all these videos thing; I only know the basic basic from last time, when we convert video, we are more concern on the bitrate, even if you put 720p but with low bitrate, you can play with no problem, but if you encode is high bitrate, even with low res, you'll have trouble playing the video smoothly.
With low bitrate, it's useless to have high resolution as you'll see pixels; For high quality, usually we use a certain minimum bitrate for certain resolution.