that's because nicole IS a he...
i think you missed some vital parts of the story where nicole is shown as a guy~

Dude look at his chest and botttom does he look like a girl no...

In a way i think they should made Nicole a girl to ease the gender bias tension.

Gundam Seed and Destiny.. Yeah i expect new comers would enjoy it.

But that not original Gundam, True Gundam is the UC series.

erm, no not really. but it might help if you watch the last few episodes of ZZ to get a grip of what's going on

man, you've got to grow up. too much Kira aimbot crap made me gave up on GSD

and FYI, 0080's in the UC timeline as well. so, still sticking to your UC wisdom crap?

well then....sorry for the mistake ya.....but still he DIE BRUTALLY!!!

CCA and 0083 rox..

Zeta well.. kinda so-so, the graphics kinda hinder the cool factor the movie would be great if it 100% pure graphics redone.

I hope Tomino would stay to do a ZZ gundam movie cos the tv series just sucks...

Man, I'm enjoying this...

LOL, does that means it could be some sort of a newfangled telescopic mobile suit? Gives a whole new dimension to the term 'Extended', har har; exteeeeeeeennndd.....*smash*

Or maybe an optical-cannon MS? Ultimate attack: Sunburn Supreme!

Umm, in actuality you have to watch the First Gundam and then Zeta Gundam to fully understand the significance of the last duel between the most famous rivals in Gundam history, because everything they've gone through leads to this final clash. But if you want to understand the current plot setting in the CCA movie, you'd also have to at least watch the second half of ZZ Gundam, like QuackSilver said.

And Stardust Memory is good, provided you know at least the gist of what First Gundam and Zeta Gundam is, being the OVA that bridges the seven year gap between major turning points of the two series, and bringing to light the reasons that led to the changes seen in Zeta.

Oh?

I don't know whether to laugh out, rant and flame, or just cry after reading those words...

The matter about it being a new timeline, thus being easier for newer generations is agreeable, yet the fact of what kids want these days is so true, in a sobering sense. What IS happening to the newer generation anyway? Read the news, hear the adults rant, see the newer generation around you; proof that the world will burn soon if this goes on...

And no, it's not off-topic, you've just clarified the major problem we older, full of 'wisdom-crap', enlightened Gundam enthusiasts face daily.

Anyway, just my opinions...

You're right on the ball, sir. Behold the real sorrows of war courtesy of the Creator of teh True Gundam who has actually experienced real effects of war firsthand, rather than the newer Phailmaster Fukuda who has absolutely no idea about the true subtle horrors of war; thus the videogame-style warfare that is an insult to the pricelessness, meaning and sanctity of human life.

This may underscore the reason why anime made by the first generation (meaning Tezuka's batch) are so profound, revolutionary and powerful; and why the same kind of anime made by people of these days are just tasteless carbon copies of the pioneers, or worse. Life experiences matter, I say...

An enlightened one has spoken.

Okay.... maybe not enlightened enough...

The Zeta movies came out so because it'll cost a lot more to redo the entire thing. Pretty dumb, isn't it. Bandai won't fully finance Tomino-sama who's guaranteed to succeed, yet they'd spent a hefty budget on Phailed Phukuda and his 100-plus episode-long marketing advertisement. Yep, the world isn't fair, all right...

But I didn't mind very much at the presence of the old animation, makes me want to watch the original series even more. The animation of the original Zeta is great enough, considering it was made in 1985...

And about ZZ being how it is in the first half, it's not surprising why a lot of so-called hardcore Gundam fans don't really understand why the series began in such a manner. Those who know Tomino-sama's reasons of doing so will definitely agree that the way ZZ was scripted actually makes a damn whole lot of sense.

But maybe for the sake of the newer generation, Tomino-sama should do a rescripted compilation edition, since the newer generation is too dense to absorb, decipher and understand 'wisdom-crap'...

0080 is better than other UC series as it's more "kiddish" in some sense. The reason I prefer CE series as they are more reasonable and logical compared to UC which " How the $#@%$ could anyone fly on space by just covering their mouth, sure dielahh".

And the ending of Gyaksou no Char is so fake, Nu Gundam can blast away those grunt units away with some lalah force field and Char feel warmth... come on UC, get real.

..........





....Have.... to.... resist.... urge.... to..... flame...........

This post has been edited by Fodder Soldier: May 23 2006, 02:13 AM

Yeah , Anyone seen the raws of GSD special edition? still waiting for subs.

yeap...
still waitin 4 sub...

btw... can't wait 4 "Gundam Seed: Eternity"... 3rd season of GS...

but i still miss de old gundam series...
I still prefer 0083 & wing de best... less flashback and more fight in space...
lol...

de only gundam series i won't even wanna watch... is Gundam G...
OMG!!! so many weird gundam design...
especially Neo Malaysia and Zeus Gundam... dam weird the design...
gundam with beard... zeus gundam...
zzzz...
n Neo Malaysia... really resembles an orang utan... lol... XD

Well... I get what you mean...

My first full length Gundam series was Gundam W... that was back when I was around 15. I admit, honestly, that the action scenes caught my attention to it, but as I watched on, I fell in love with the story, the philosophy. Suddenly, action did not matter that much at all. Of course, no action wouldn't mean Gundam anymore, but most importantly the story line is the main point of gundam animes.

But GSD is too overboard with action (badly done too) and crappy story, and I am resisting the urge to rant about it once again, even though i've done it umpteen times...

I agree that if nicol was a girl, it'd make things more interesting, considering his intimacy and attachment with Athrun...

This is the joke of the day... no offence, but more reasonable and logical???

Maybe Lacus has corrupted our young minds too....

yea its so fake. the whole Lacus faction can get through the entire thing unscratched. now which one is more fake?

and please, since you like GSD so much, its time you give the UC gundams credit. after all, its a remake of the UC series. take the major story points, and redo it in today's animation. there's even blatant scenes where its a remake of the old ones, albeit done with GSD's characters. same goes with GS

gsdfan ought to really look at the outsisde world..

How the hell can CE be more logical compare to UC.

The jump into space without dying well... for a few sec u can survive but not recomended to do. Hey even CE it is done e.g Lowe hot swap his worker pod with his Astray.

.. The Ending of CCA well Amuro and Char are using pychoframe so why not.

Seed also got its own share of nonsense, Atleast Nu Gundam got its combat limits but Strike Freedom is like almost unbeatable nomatther how out number.

Like Quaksliver said GSD and GS is copied from MSG and Zeta. Seed is a MSG remake and GSD is a Zeta inspired.



Well some up to date graphics would be nice, As for Fukuda well he is generating more profit than any other gundam franchise so cant see why budget is super fat.. IF Fukuda have such a bloody fat budget then why his he constant reusing old animation i dunno maybe he just plain lazy.

hey!my first full length gundam series is Gundam Wing too!!^_^
that was about 5-6 years back...
Wing are surely one of the best!!(at least i think so...XD...)still remembers the sorrow of the 5 Gundam pilot....

dear all i salute gsdfan
coz he is really a gsd fan ....

ALERT! ALERT!

I sense a growing clump of Nartuo-grade fanboyism here...

I don't mind it if fans show their preferences to certain series' with a decent amount of favouritism, but outrageously blind devotion will guarantee an instant flameburn.

Look forward to Gundam Seed C.E. 73: Stargazer
Looking at the old GAT-X105 Strike model really brings back memories on GS .. how nostalgic

This post has been edited by vivaldi: May 23 2006, 09:22 PM

And that would be UC naruto grade fanboissm by you guys.

c'mon guys.. so sad seeing gundam fans square-off wit each other bout UC and CE beliefs.. why don we just get together and shed our differences.... If we fight on no one will win lah. this guy defends UC, this guy defends CE..when will it end? Clearly we can say that CE fans are mostly new to the gundam universe. They grew up on SEED, while we the older generation had earlier exposure to the UC timeline (circa 1989..for me). The main reason for the creation of the SEED series (as i could remember) is to attract younger generation/audience towards the gundam universe. Colorful and fast-pased anime is the new trend in mecha today (seen Zegapain?.. also from sunrise and bandai) and that's why the younger teens will appreciate GS and GSD more compared to the more space-drama-ish-dark-moody-like-opera of the UC timeline. see the mobile suits for example.. you see the CE MS tend to be more supercool (e.g Kira's Strike Freedom.. you know the deal) that easily gives a one shot kill/hit anytime while in UC you see how kou uraki (from 0083) struggles with his GP01 to fight off gato's GP02. even when kou uraki has his top notch gpo3+dendrobium orchis monster he still has a hard time getting thru. Its all about presentation+audience and the writers' n storytellers of course.. (fukada.. ?)

IMO, GS and GSD is like a stepping stone for further gundam appreciation. They'll all start as Kira-ish fanboys.. no doubt , but as time passes by they'll slowly walk into the UC timeline..hopefully. I know this coz ive seen many of my younger brother's friends migrate to the UC timeline fandom after getting supa-high on SEED series. So all i wanna say here is that for more mature, serious, and better series go for UC.. for fast-paced videogame-ish action and story stick to CE... everyone has their own poison.


Anyways for me, GS was great compared to GSD (which..ermm..quite..sucked )

agree with u Fasap..
now let's all sign an Anti-Flaming Treaty..