Slightly OT:
we currently live in an era of instant gratification; of SMSes, instant pop idols, and reality shows. The entertainment we watch (not just anime) are merely a sign of the times. E.g., just as the whacky comedic feel of the Patlabor TV series represented the heady, euphoric days of the Bubble in Japan, so too did the grimmer, darker movies of that franchise (esp Patlabor 2 and WXIII which came later) reflect the pessimistic aura of the post-Bubble era in which it was created. The Gundam franchise too has been continuously evolving to encompass and reflect the cultural/technological changes of the era in which it was created.

aaah natsukashii... seeing this reminds me of my recent sojourn in Japan where I made more than 10 trips to Akihabara. When I see this clip, I instantly recall Shimokawa Mikuni's cover of Eternal Wind which was the soundtrack for that game, and which was the song at Akihabara at that time.
FOUR! TATAKATCHA IKENAINDA! KIMI WABYOUKI NANDA!!!

This post has been edited by oe_kintaro: May 25 2006, 11:11 PM

Watching Kira pawnage is as good as watching Some guy in WWE pawn loads of other wrestler in Royal Rumble and the All Blacks pawned a Malaysia Rugby.

They rock....can't you feel it? Don't you have any passion?

This post has been edited by gsdfan: May 26 2006, 12:05 AM

I think Fodder Soldier prolly said everyting iam gonna say but in a less commi/offensive manner.



Iam gonna take it that u must like Chinese Kung Fu movies alot and enjoy the Super Robot gentre.

You have to understand Gundam is not a super robot gentre its Militaristic robot gentre so I as a huge gundam fan i expect our heroes to be flesh and blood where they are no invicible.

putting that away Why Seed is so uber lovable this is why

Kids: Cool Mecha, Cool fight scene.
Tenage(Guys): Same as Kids + Hot girls ( Lacus,Luna,Cagali)
Tenage(Girls) : ATHRUN and KIRA ( more to athrun attually)

True.. reminds me alot of Hollywood, During the Cold War movie like James Bond was a big hit since Cold War revolve alot on spy warfare then serious political movie was popular during the vietnam war and Star Wars did good because its was release in a few year after the landing of moon.

god mode,aimbot,99 agility=unrealistic=lame
btw,wwe sucks go watch sum japanese wrestling if you want the real deal.

I don't think the fight scene in GS and GSD is all that cool, it was fun the first few times and it went old really fast and then same old shit for the next 45 episodes

Cool fight scene? Try Ez-8 and Gouf Custom in 08th!



Can't be this can it?

erm, can i ask you a question? what is a gsdfan doing with a gundam wing avatar?

EZ-8's fight rawked.

and yes, that's the one and you're the one that made the video! it really rawks! kudos to you

Thanks

Kinda shocked there are actually people here remember that clip

High Resolution download this much better quality

Low Resolution

can't believe wkkay actually still hosting my low res clip

This post has been edited by Setsunahq: May 26 2006, 03:40 PM

Most gundam series are not chronological done. Sure got fillers and MSV so it's hard to determine the timeline. With the AOZ coming, UC's kinda tunggang langang.

here's the chronological order of the timeline
0079 Mobile Suit Gundam(available in trilogy or series)
08th MS Team
0080 War In the Pocket
0083 Stardust Memory
Zeta Gundam(available in trilogy or series)
Gundam ZZ
Char's Counterattack
Gundam F91
Victory Gundam

i'm not sure where should MS IGLOO fit in though, should be around the same time as Mobile Suit Gundam

not chronological done(in terms of production), but chronogically related(in terms of story line)
tunggang langang? more like ur lack of interest make it seems tunggang langang.....

so of these, he asked for 5.. which 5?
or rather... which one is recommended?

from the list there. if you are in for the eye candy type and have no patience, i would recommend gundam 0083, ms08th team, char's counter atk and f91. they are either movies or only spam until 12 or 13 episods long only.

if you are the hradcore fan type, i would say : grab everything

Except double Zeta

Glad to give some help for your journey to attain enlightenment. Okay, let's make this slightly procedural. At this moment you're keen on venturing into the realm of the original Universal Century Timeline of the Mobile Suit Gundam Saga . All right then, we'll go through a short introduction to the dynamics of the UC Timeline and its component stories.

First of all, I should stress that arranging every UC Gundam series' in a chronological order is not exactly a right move. You see, like any large, multi-title saga, we have the core stories and the side stories. Those who have read novel-based sagas like the Star Wars and the Battletech novel series' will understand this concept of core and side stories.

For UC Gundam, the core stories are (in chronological order):
Mobile Suit Gundam
Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ
Mobile Suit Gundam - Char's Counterattack
Mobile Suit Gundam F91
Mobile Suit Victory Gundam

And the side stories are (in probable sequence):
Mobile Suit Gundam - MS IGLOO
Mobile Suit Gundam - The 08th MS Team
Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket
Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory

That's it. Simple, isn't it?



Now, the detailed explanation for the concept of the UC Gundam side stories. Remember this fact: UC Gundam side stories only matter if you really know the relevant core stories. Why, you ask? This: UC Gundam side stories are pretty much stand-alone stories, but has somewhat great relevance to major events happening in the core stories. So knowing the related core stories first will greatly help you understand the significance and intricacies of the side story itself.

And why do I say that side stories aren't fit to be chronologically arranged with the rest of the core stories? Because most side stories have different starting and ending points in the overall timeline. Okay, take MS IGLOO for example. Its story starts off at the very eve of the OYW and ends at the end of the OYW, but the first Mobile Suit Gundam story starts 8 months after the OYW began, and the 08th MS Team began even later than that; even though all three stories end at the same period of time.

So I'd suggest:-


As you can see, the first Mobile Suit Gundam is definitely a must see, and the rest are up to your own preferences, but I think the best 5-title combo for a new UC fan would probably be:
1- Mobile Suit Gundam (the movie trilogy version)
2- Mobile Suit Gundam - The 08th MS Team (the 12-episode OVA)
3- Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory (the 13-episode OVA)
4- Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam (the movie trilogy version)
5- Mobile Suit Gundam - Char's Counterattack
That's probably the most ultra-minimum requirement for an elligible UC fan. But if you are up for the challenge (and hence, full enlightenment) , then watch all of the UC Gundams according to this arrangement:-

If there's any other questions regarding the TV series version vs. the compilation movie version, the detailed UC Timeline events sequence chronology, or even about the Alternate Timeline Gundams, just post here or PM me and I'll try to explain further .

Hope all of this helps, tam_ironcup . And I wish you well on your path to discover and understand the true magnificence of Gundam.

This post has been edited by Fodder Soldier: May 27 2006, 12:55 AM

Since they alot of series in MSG and u are limited to 5 so i give it in 2 package.

Overall Understanding.( this will give u a brief whole UC picture.)
1. Mobile Suit Gundam/0079 gundam
2. Zeta Gundam
3. ZZ Gundam
4. Char counter Attack.
5. F91
6. Victory Gundam
(i know the max is 5 but u need all this to get the whole UC)

The OYW Frenzy. ( this will give u a super detail of the MSG era.)
1. Mobile Suit Gundam.
2.08th team
3.War in pocket
4.Stardust Memory
5.MS igloo.

Need more info
http://www.mahq.net/animation/gundam/gundam.htm



Not really only Wing,G gundam , Turn A and Seed is not connect.
UC has its chronological although its not really cosistence but it does connects

This post has been edited by redeye84: May 27 2006, 12:49 AM

gundam x too (even though it kinda like after UC)

but man, we really need a new gundam series, one where it follows the original timeline. not the ZOMFG FREEDOM era

Of course. After War Gundam X was meant to be as if it started off post-OYW, almost like an alternate version of Zeta Gundam (and by this I mean in terms of story continuation from the period after OYW event).

But the other Alternate Timeline Gundams (G, Wing) are pretty much distantly related to how their story settings began to the UC OYW. SEED, well, pretty much a bad clone of UC, so let's leave it at that.

And in the case of Turn A Gundam, it's an entirely special case on how it's related to any of the previous Gundams made before it. Only a fortunate few (and I really mean few) I know knows it's true significance to the entire Gundam saga.

Somehow I don't quite understand how people can confuse UC with AT, they're all quite clearly defined about what they are about. Only tunggang-langgang-prone people might get easily confused with this level of simplicity.

Talked about it some time ago. Here's post.


and to tam_ironcup, about your question of 5 UC Gundam titles to watch, I've reposted my opinions in my earlier post above this one, here's the earlier post in case you missed it.

This post has been edited by Fodder Soldier: May 27 2006, 01:27 AM

Of the group of Samurai Champloo, Bleach, Trigun and Cowboy Bebop, I say go ahead and delete Bleach. To me it's the kind of story you only need to watch once - anime for entertainment only, not much brain exercise needed . But try not to delete C.Bebop! Great anime is hard to come by these days...

Of course, if you can burn these anime out onto DVDs or something else, even easier then...

And we're glad to help a potential fellow True Gundam enthusiast.


p.s.: I'm just wondering if maybe you should try to DL the 08th MS Team and 0083 as well, instead of getting them from Speedy. I understand if it's about your current available HD space. Cause I'm not too sure about the translation quality on anime from Speedy. Maybe AnimeTech is a better choice, IMHO. I got my 08th and 0083 from there (and I'm DLing those as well from the net. Har har, master of multiple formats; NBTD... )

Gundam's true strength comes from the script. Thus, a Gundam story will certainly get spoiled if watch with bleh-grade translation subs.

This post has been edited by Fodder Soldier: May 27 2006, 03:09 PM

... Those are not exactly Original, Those are HK bootlegs which the company does their own subtitles.

And why their English sub sucks because its translated from Japanese to Cantonese and from cantonese to english.

So in the end the results is broken english unlike fan sub its directly Japanese to english.

My advise when gettin these HK disc try gettin Movies and OVA those are more likely to have good subs.