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rhtrhy
post Jun 18 2013, 12:05 PM

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Hi fellow DIYer's, I need some guidance on the following:

I want to drill walls/concrete to install things like:
- retractable wall-mounted clothes hanger
- curtain railings.

I am taking a look at the following drill:

Hammer Drill
Item Code: KR-704-REK-13mm

Specifications:
* Power Input: 710W
* Chuck Size: 2-13mm
* Speed: 0-2800 rpm
* Impact Rate: 0-47600 bpm

Max Drill Capacity
* Wood: 20mm
* Steel: 13mm
* Masonry: 13mm

Is the Black and Decker model that I mentioned good as an all-in-one solution for the long term?
I am on a budget, and actually looked at Bosch GSB 10RE / GSB 500RE. However I was told that this model is not powerful enough to drill through concrete. Is this true? Can anybody help clarify on this point?

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post Jun 18 2013, 12:23 PM

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I have 16re, spec same as d bnd u mentioned, concrete stil ok la need some time, I wud love higher power, but I think tht would be rotary hammer liao. so I think 10re really is tak boleh...
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post Jun 18 2013, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(rhtrhy @ Jun 18 2013, 12:05 PM)
Hi fellow DIYer's, I need some guidance on the following:

I want to drill walls/concrete to install things like:
- retractable wall-mounted clothes hanger
- curtain railings.

I am taking a look at the following drill:

Hammer Drill
Item Code: KR-704-REK-13mm

Specifications:
* Power Input: 710W
* Chuck Size: 2-13mm
* Speed: 0-2800 rpm
* Impact Rate: 0-47600 bpm

Max Drill Capacity
* Wood: 20mm
* Steel: 13mm
* Masonry: 13mm

Is the Black and Decker model that I mentioned good as an all-in-one solution for the long term?
I am on a budget, and actually looked at Bosch GSB 10RE / GSB 500RE. However I was told that this model is not powerful enough to drill through concrete. Is this true? Can anybody help clarify on this point?
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I have this bosch 500re. It not powerfull enough to drill thru concrete or red brick. You need higher than 500w. If you just drill for wall plug, not a problem.
rhtrhy
post Jun 18 2013, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 18 2013, 12:33 PM)
I have this bosch 500re. It not powerfull enough to drill thru concrete or red brick. You need higher than 500w. If you just drill for wall plug, not a problem.
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Thanks for the guidance so far guys; The price difference between Bosch 10 / 500RE isn't all that big. so I guess the Black and Decker option should be a more suitable one for the long term. By the way, anyone heard of the following: Bosch power tools have only a 6 month warranty period attached to them, while B & D has 1-year warranty?
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post Jun 18 2013, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(rhtrhy @ Jun 18 2013, 12:45 PM)
Thanks for the guidance so far guys; The price difference between Bosch 10 / 500RE isn't all that big. so I guess the Black and Decker option should be a more suitable one for the long term. By the way, anyone heard of the following: Bosch power tools have only a 6 month warranty period attached to them, while B & D has 1-year warranty?
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It doesn't matter what brand. As long as it over 500w power, you can drill bigger hole and any material. Many brand have more power tools. I don't no what brand can be use for longterm now. But my bosch 500re is already 14yrs old. Still can be use. While sometime the button sot sot. Time to retire I guess. sad.gif

Those tools just warranty 6mth is cheaper type and not for heavy duty. Avoid it if you have budget.

Many contractor I see is using makita. While those hardcore contractor using Hilti. They avoid Bosch.
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post Jun 18 2013, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 18 2013, 01:20 PM)
It doesn't matter what brand. As long as it over 500w power, you can drill bigger hole and any material. Many brand have more power tools. I don't no what brand can be use for longterm now. But my bosch 500re is already 14yrs old. Still can be use. While sometime the button sot sot. Time to retire I guess.  sad.gif

Those tools just warranty 6mth is cheaper type and not for heavy duty. Avoid it if you have budget.

Many contractor I see is using makita. While those hardcore contractor using Hilti. They avoid Bosch.
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Thanks for the extra info. By the way, this is a newbie question I have to ask:

Chuck size is up to 13mm, so of course I understand that this means it can support up to 13mm drill size.
My question is, the 13mm chuck can also support 10mm drill size right?
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post Jun 18 2013, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(rhtrhy @ Jun 18 2013, 02:12 PM)
Thanks for the extra info. By the way, this is a newbie question I have to ask:

Chuck size is up to 13mm, so of course I understand that this means it can support up to 13mm drill size.
My question is, the 13mm chuck can also support 10mm drill size right?
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Yes. The max drill bit dia is 13mm. You can put in any drill bit 13mm and below.

But if fully close the chuck and still got hole in the center remain, than there is min drill bit diameter that can be insert.
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post Jun 18 2013, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 18 2013, 02:28 PM)
Yes. The max drill bit dia is 13mm. You can put in any drill bit 13mm and below.

But if fully close the chuck and still got hole in the center remain, than there is min drill bit diameter that can be insert.
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Appreciate the advice, thanks once again. Now I can go drill with confidence! cool2.gif
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QUOTE(rhtrhy @ Jun 18 2013, 12:45)
By the way, anyone heard of the following: Bosch power tools have only a 6 month warranty period attached to them, while B & D has 1-year warranty?
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Yes bosch warr is. 6mnths oni for power tools, but other countries like usa if they giv 6mnth they better close shop. Oni in country like msia... they can bully? Or ppl/user here dishonest/like to take advantage? Anythin oso claim or blame manufacturer... biggrin.gif
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post Jun 18 2013, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(rhtrhy @ Jun 18 2013, 12:05 PM)
Hi fellow DIYer's, I need some guidance on the following:

I want to drill walls/concrete to install things like:
- retractable wall-mounted clothes hanger
- curtain railings.

I am taking a look at the following drill:

Hammer Drill
Item Code: KR-704-REK-13mm

Specifications:
* Power Input: 710W
* Chuck Size: 2-13mm
* Speed: 0-2800 rpm
* Impact Rate: 0-47600 bpm

Max Drill Capacity
* Wood: 20mm
* Steel: 13mm
* Masonry: 13mm

Is the Black and Decker model that I mentioned good as an all-in-one solution for the long term?
I am on a budget, and actually looked at Bosch GSB 10RE / GSB 500RE. However I was told that this model is not powerful enough to drill through concrete. Is this true? Can anybody help clarify on this point?
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rotary hammer drill works like charm. dont waste yr money and time on normal hammer drill.
i bought Boda @ RM180. it's good enough for ordinary people like me.
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post Jul 10 2013, 10:35 AM

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Hi all,

Don't forget that Hitachi also makes power tools too biggrin.gif
Cordless drill, impact drill, rotary hammer, angle grinder and more

http://www.hitachi-koki.com/powertools/index.html

We're authorised dealer for Hitachi Power Tools (full range). No minimum order.
Don't hesitate to contact me for a best price quote.

Andy 016-219-2528

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Saruvat
post Jul 12 2013, 09:37 AM

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Hi guys, where can i get the Boyai rotary hammer?
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QUOTE(Saruvat @ Jul 12 2013, 09:37 AM)
Hi guys, where can i get the Boyai rotary hammer?
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last i saw boyai brand was at Mr. DIY outlet...

i think now they rebrand it into Mr.DIY label
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post Jul 31 2013, 11:38 PM

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Hi,
Need opinion if this good for drill wood, metal, tile or concrete
Black & Decker 550W Impact drill KR554RE
Specifications:
Rated Power: 550 watt
No Load Speed: 0-2800 RPM (Vari-speed)
Chuck capacity: 13mmReverse Rotation: Yes
Max Drilling Capacity (Wood: 20mm, Steel: 10mm, Masonry: 10 mm)
Cable Length: 2 meter
Standard accessories:Chuck key,
Auxiliary handle, Depth gauge, Drill bit kit set.

I plan to use for curtail rail, roller bind to wall. Saw some comment posted that at least min 550w will do,
Please advice

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post Aug 1 2013, 06:02 AM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Jul 31 2013, 11:38 PM)
Hi,
Need opinion if this good for drill wood, metal, tile or concrete
Black & Decker 550W Impact drill KR554RE
Specifications:
Rated Power: 550 watt
No Load Speed: 0-2800 RPM (Vari-speed)
Chuck capacity: 13mmReverse Rotation: Yes
Max Drilling Capacity (Wood: 20mm, Steel: 10mm, Masonry: 10 mm)
Cable Length: 2 meter
Standard accessories:Chuck key,
Auxiliary handle, Depth gauge, Drill bit kit set.

I plan to use for curtail rail, roller bind to wall. Saw some comment posted that at least min 550w will do,
Please advice
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Go for rotary hammer than impact drill. It's like 10x better.

even 700w bosch or black & decker impact drill no match even with cheapest skill rotary hammer.
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post Aug 4 2013, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(aneip @ Aug 1 2013, 06:02 AM)
Go for rotary hammer than impact drill. It's like 10x better.

even 700w bosch or black & decker impact drill no match even with cheapest skill rotary hammer.
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rotary hammer = hammer drill ? or different
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post Aug 4 2013, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Aug 4 2013, 09:52 PM)
rotary hammer = hammer drill ? or different
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the model name must have the word 'rotary' biggrin.gif
but it will be damn heavy 2.7kg and up... tongue.gif
cap ayam can get round RM280..
like the one below.. have 3 modes, drilling, impact drilling n chiselling

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from popmechanics...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/revie...rete-comparison

"...If you need to drive a screw into concrete, you've got two choices. Either you use a large rotary hammer or a drill driver with a hammer-drill function. Both tools pound the bit while it spins, pulverizing concrete, but the two differ in the mechanisms that do the actual pounding. In a rotary hammer, a cylinder of air is compressed by a piston, which in turn beats the bit. In a hammer drill, two ribbed metal discs click in and out against one another, causing impact. Among tradesmen working daily, rotary hammers are preferred because of their superior strength and shock-absorbing qualities. For the occasional user, the large, bulky tools are often overkill—a powerful all-purpose drill driver with a hammer-drill setting makes more sense...."



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sw.boutique
post Aug 25 2013, 09:31 PM

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I need to core-drill around 4x 100mm and 1x 180mm... Should I be better off buying a core-drilling machine (dunno what is called)?
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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ Aug 25 2013, 09:31 PM)
I need to core-drill around 4x 100mm and 1x 180mm... Should I be better off buying a core-drilling machine (dunno what is called)?
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u mean u wana buy this ?? sweat.gif tongue.gif biggrin.gif

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post Aug 25 2013, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 25 2013, 10:14 PM)
u mean u wana buy this ??  sweat.gif  tongue.gif  biggrin.gif

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Not those with the stand...

Something like below:

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