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blackbox14
post Aug 12 2025, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(kwss @ Aug 12 2025, 10:11 PM)
WiFi is kind of like an afterthought for Mikrotik.
If you want to upgrade, might as well jump straight to WiFi 7.
But then again you just bought an all 1G port router.

Maybe install a wall mounted rack so you can install more gear.

Actually APC has a very nice looking sound proof rack. The price is of course very nice as well. At one point I did thought about buying it to put 1U server.
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Will still be a while before my family moves to 1G internet package. And with the goings-on that I read about in TM Unifi thread with TM not wanting to upgrade the local infrastructure, I expect I will stay in 500Mbps or maybe at most move up to 800Mbps in the near future.

I did consider expanding the space where all the network equipment is as well, but it would be quite messy and I would have to call TM technicians to make sure the fiber is all ok afterwards.

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post Aug 12 2025, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Aug 12 2025, 10:30 PM)
Will still be a while before my family moves to 1G internet package. And with the goings-on that I read about in TM Unifi thread with TM not wanting to upgrade the local infrastructure, I expect I will stay in 500Mbps or maybe at most move up to 800Mbps in the near future.

I did consider expanding the space where all the network equipment is as well, but it would be quite messy and I would have to call TM technicians to make sure the fiber is all ok afterwards.
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You can just buy a fiber patch cord for the length required and wire it wherever you want.
If you can borrow a fusion splicer then can consider Corning stick on wall transparent fiber cable too.
There's no secret to fiber optic cable. They just have many different types of connector. That's all.
It's no different from people buying pre-terminated RJ45 cable.

If you are a fiber kaki you can buy a mux / demux WDM box so you can connect your rack to your room with just a single fiber pair.

The price of 10G transceiver has dropped a lot. Although WDM transceivers still cost more, they are no longer priced so high to be out of reach.
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post Aug 13 2025, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Aug 12 2025, 09:33 PM)
Lol, maybe if it goes on sale for low enough.  tongue.gif  But I don't think the AX2's WiFi performs as well as the C9 for a 2-storey house based on my experience these past several days, and I need something that is at least on the C9s level. Thinking of getting a Deco mesh 2-Pack so I can just do away with the Wireless Repeater.

One last troubleshooting step I will try first is changing the C9's power adapter, if I can find a 12V 4A or 5A one lying around somewhere. I've seen faulty power adapters cause strange issues, so it's worth a shot.
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can you post screenshot for both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz wifi status page? hmm.gif
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post Aug 13 2025, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(syahpian @ Aug 13 2025, 12:39 AM)
can you post screenshot for both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz wifi status page?  hmm.gif
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You mean for the TP Link router? Because I am not using the hAP AX2's wifi at all.
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post Aug 13 2025, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Aug 13 2025, 01:16 AM)
You mean for the TP Link router? Because I am not using the hAP AX2's wifi at all.
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ah, i see, i through you using that hap ax2 wifi

actually you can unlock that hap ax2 wifi full potential by using several tweak and combine it with superchannel feature drool.gif

that what im doing now, before i need several AP just to cover whole house. now i only need my main ax3 and hap lite as AP laugh.gif
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Lost internet connection about an hour ago. Just want to confirm: the mikrotik MTU errors stacking up over days can't cause complete fiber signal loss in the ONU, right?

LINK and AUTH light on my ONU are completely off.

EDIT: Had to call TM and they believe the issue is isolated to my home and not a neighborhood problem or unannounced maintenance/upgrade works like it usually is. Hopefully my ONU is ok.

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post Aug 15 2025, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Aug 15 2025, 07:08 PM)
Lost internet connection about an hour ago. Just want to confirm: the mikrotik MTU errors stacking up over days can't cause complete fiber signal loss in the ONU, right?

LINK and AUTH light on my ONU are completely off.

EDIT: Had to call TM and they believe the issue is isolated to my home and not a neighborhood problem or unannounced maintenance/upgrade works like it usually is. Hopefully my ONU is ok.
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There is no way any router will brick the ONU.
If you are hit with a surge, that's from the powerline, not the router.
It is just co-incident your Internet go dead when you change router.
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post Aug 15 2025, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(kwss @ Aug 15 2025, 07:46 PM)
There is no way any router will brick the ONU.
If you are hit with a surge, that's from the powerline, not the router.
It is just co-incident your Internet go dead when you change router.
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Good to know.

No surge. Just suddenly the fiber link light went off. Everything is fine besides that.

EDIT: Nevermind, it was a neighborhood disruption but on smaller scale. Only a few houses affected.

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post Aug 20 2025, 11:01 AM

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The last time, I posted when I achieved buffer bloat grade A.

Today, I am posting because I finally got Adguard container up and running on my L009UiGS-2HaxD(arm). took me at least two weeks and had to view the network berg many times and also seek co-pilot help to finally get it to work. Also bought a kingston kyson 512gb(over provision, rm126), I only finally got it to work, after I ask co-pilot, "how do I setup my Adguard on mikrotik> step by step" yes network berg is quite detailed, but my firewall setting had tiny mistake in it, I think... specifically the NAT>dstnat>udp>53> LAN(I did not specify this before) > redirect > 53.

2. I also Uncheck "allow remote requests"
3. Disable Use Peer DNS under DHCP client...

after that Adguard was up and running like normal. but the Adguardtest page still say my Adguard is offline.

Even now I feel I may have missed out some setting in my firewall settings and I feel so insecure...

I am doing this Adguard mainly because my household, got children and old folks who constantly getting bombarded by Ads which I feel they may not understand or is dodgy... and I am too occuppied most of the time to monitor them, even though I set timer for them to be on tv/youtube /youtubekids...

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post Aug 31 2025, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Aug 20 2025, 11:01 AM)
The last time, I posted when I achieved buffer bloat grade A.

Today, I am posting because I finally got Adguard container up and running on my L009UiGS-2HaxD(arm). took me at least two weeks and had to view the network berg many times and also seek co-pilot help to finally get it to work. Also bought a kingston kyson 512gb(over provision, rm126), I only finally got it to work, after I ask co-pilot, "how do I setup my Adguard on mikrotik> step by step" yes network berg is quite detailed, but my firewall setting had tiny mistake in it, I think... specifically the NAT>dstnat>udp>53> LAN(I did not specify this before) > redirect > 53.

2. I also Uncheck "allow remote requests"
3. Disable Use Peer DNS under DHCP client...

after that Adguard was up and running like normal. but the Adguardtest page still say my Adguard is offline.

Even now I feel I may have missed out some setting in my firewall settings and I feel so insecure...

I am doing this Adguard mainly because my household, got children and old folks who constantly getting bombarded by Ads which I feel they may not understand or is dodgy... and I am too occuppied most of the time to monitor them, even though I set timer for them to be on tv/youtube /youtubekids...
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i would rather setup my adguard on any cheap SBC, rather than running it on mikrotik container.
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post Sep 12 2025, 04:24 PM

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Hi Sifu,
I'm newbie to Mikrotik, I've some questions to ask and seek for some advice:
1) what's the benefit to replace Mikrotik as main router to my existing Asus wireless router? Well, some too advanced setting I may don't know.
2) I plan to setup 2~3 PoE access point, should I continue use my Asus as main router (disable all WiFi) or use Mikrotik will be better?

I never use standalone router, so need some advice before setup sweat.gif

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post Sep 12 2025, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(sam240 @ Sep 12 2025, 04:24 PM)
Hi Sifu,
I'm newbie to Mikrotik, I've some questions to ask and seek for some advice:
1) what's the benefit to replace Mikrotik as main router to my existing Asus wireless router? Well, some too advanced setting I may don't know.
2) I plan to setup 2~3 PoE access point, should I continue use my Asus as main router (disable all WiFi) or use Mikrotik will be better?

I never use standalone router, so need some advice before setup  sweat.gif
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You will struggle if not familiar with Mikrotik and networking. I'm a noob too, google on how-to and configured my Mikrotik + Ubiquiti AP. Then basically can forget about it except updating the software. I like the convenience of POE which lead me to this path.
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QUOTE(cyberic @ Sep 12 2025, 09:10 PM)
You will struggle if not familiar with Mikrotik and networking. I'm a noob too, google on how-to and configured my Mikrotik + Ubiquiti AP. Then basically can forget about it except updating the software. I like the convenience of POE which lead me to this path.
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Well, I just know some basic networking and some setting.
Well, without Mikrotik, so actually I still can stick with Asus set as DHCP connect to PoE AP and use.
Just wondering if Microtek can work better in term of performance example torrenting + others benefit, then I may consider it sweat.gif

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post Sep 12 2025, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(sam240 @ Sep 12 2025, 11:39 PM)
Well, I just know some basic networking and some setting.
Well, without Mikrotik, so actually I still can stick with Asus set as DHCP connect to PoE AP and use.
Just wondering if Microtek can work better in term of performance example torrenting + others benefit, then I may consider it  sweat.gif
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If you have no problem with your Asus, changing to Mikrotik won't improve thing.
In fact a lot of SoC in consumer device make use of NAT / packet acceleration that only expensive Mikrotik implements.

Even then those get disabled the moment PPPoE is used in Mikrotik.

Unless you have a specific feature you want, I say save your money and just spend it on PoE + AP
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post Sep 13 2025, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(kwss @ Sep 12 2025, 11:50 PM)
If you have no problem with your Asus, changing to Mikrotik won't improve thing.
In fact a lot of SoC in consumer device make use of NAT / packet acceleration that only expensive Mikrotik implements.

Even then those get disabled the moment PPPoE is used in Mikrotik.

Unless you have a specific feature you want, I say save your money and just spend it on PoE + AP
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Do the same apply to Ubiquiti UCG?
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post Sep 13 2025, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(cyberic @ Sep 13 2025, 07:55 AM)
Do the same apply to Ubiquiti UCG?
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I have no idea about UI routing stuff. I only use their AP.

For routing, my in-depth understanding only covers Cisco and Mikrotik product since I use them and their documentation is decent.
Half cup for Juniper and Nokia.

Even for Juniper I only have good understanding of their Trio ASIC. The rest I don't know.
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post Sep 13 2025, 08:29 AM

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Ubiquiti zone based firewall look interesting. Anyway, I'm planning to upgrade network to 2.5G with current 5e cable. Going need new 2.5G or 10G equipments. My Mikrotik already EoS too.

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post Sep 13 2025, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(cyberic @ Sep 13 2025, 08:29 AM)
Ubiquiti zone based firewall look interesting. Anyway, I'm planning to upgrade network to 2.5G with current 5e cable. Going need new 2.5G or 10G equipments. My Mikrotik already EoS too.
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Well Ubiquiti stuff is indeed user friendly. Not only their firewall, but their policy based routing is just point and click as well for major service provider.
The thing with Ubiquiti or TP-Link Omada is that once you deploy the controller, you kind of get sucked into their ecosystem as most of the features won't be available unless you owns everything from gateway to switch to AP. After you own all that, might as well own the camera and doorbell too.

The problem is you need to decide if your internet speed is going to break the 2gig barrier.
On one hand TM haven't roll out anything better than GPON. They might or might not do it when the next election comes.

On the other hand, if you do break the 2gig barrier, 10g is the next logical choice.
However, having 10gig port doesn't means it can actually route 10gig, or 10gig over PPPoE.
Like nobody knows if TM is sticking to PPPoE.

EDIT:
For the CAT 5e cable, they are good till 5gig. So I say just keep them and go straight to fiber for anything faster. From what I can see right now, WiFi 7 wont be breaking 5gig barrier.
Another thing right now is that multi-gig poe++ switch is still kind of rare and pricey. Sometimes I feel buying Asus router with SFP+ port and use them as AP is cheaper than a multi-gig poe++ switch + PoE AP.

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post Sep 13 2025, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(kwss @ Sep 13 2025, 09:28 AM)
Well Ubiquiti stuff is indeed user friendly. Not only their firewall, but their policy based routing is just point and click as well for major service provider.
The thing with Ubiquiti or TP-Link Omada is that once you deploy the controller, you kind of get sucked into their ecosystem as most of the features won't be available unless you owns everything from gateway to switch to AP. After you own all that, might as well own the camera and doorbell too.

The problem is you need to decide if your internet speed is going to break the 2gig barrier.
On one hand TM haven't roll out anything better than GPON. They might or might not do it when the next election comes.

On the other hand, if you do break the 2gig barrier, 10g is the next logical choice.
However, having 10gig port doesn't means it can actually route 10gig, or 10gig over PPPoE.
Like nobody knows if TM is sticking to PPPoE.

EDIT:
For the CAT 5e cable, they are good till 5gig. So I say just keep them and go straight to fiber for anything faster. From what I can see right now, WiFi 7 wont be breaking 5gig barrier.
Another thing right now is that multi-gig poe++ switch is still kind of rare and pricey. Sometimes I feel buying Asus router with SFP+ port and use them as AP is cheaper than a multi-gig poe++ switch + PoE AP.
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Thanks for the insight.

10G equipments still expensive. 2.5G is more reasonable upgrade with my concealed Cat 5e cables and usage. I also looking at Asus BT10 as alternative.

I do appreciate the software updates from Mikrotik and Ubiquiti. I wonder Asus still release security updates for 1-2 years or older router.
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QUOTE(cyberic @ Sep 13 2025, 10:35 AM)
Thanks for the insight.

10G equipments still expensive. 2.5G is more reasonable upgrade with my concealed Cat 5e cables and usage. I also looking at Asus BT10 as alternative.

I do appreciate the software updates from Mikrotik and Ubiquiti. I wonder Asus still release security updates for 1-2 years or older router.
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If you value long term software update, nothing beats Mikrotik, Asus and Ubiquiti.

Avoid TP-Link at all cost. One model has multiple hardware revision. Not all hardware revision has the same software lifecycle. The worst part is you don't know what hardware revision you will be getting if you buy online. After all that, it is still a gamble how long you will actually get software update.

The 2-pack BT10 will end up cheaper than the equivalent Ubiquiti setup. You also don't have to deal with all the Ubiquiti bugs. Easier to setup too.

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