I checked with SubTel, pre-order UCG fiber + 1 u7 pro xg almost same as BT 10 pack

The BT10 is the same class to the E7 yo.
The price difference is huge!
You also need PoE injector because the UCG Fiber's PoE output is not enough for the E7.

There is no direct comparison with the UCG Fiber so I will leave it to you

This post has been edited by kwss: Sep 13 2025, 11:55 AM

UCG max got 2.5G ports but missing the 10G ports like UCG fiber. Too bad there is no RB5009 alike with 2.5G ports.

If I were you I will stick to UCG Fiber. At least it has 2x SFP+ port and higher performance number.

Now there is no right or wrong way to do things.
If you value wifi performance and want to match the BT10, then you gotta pick E7.

If you are okay with 2x2, then just get the u7-xg.
For the same price as the BT10, you are trading wifi performance with more software features and everything extra in the UCG Fiber.

I mean, you can plug in your home server into the SFP+ LAN port and utilize higher speed internet in the future.

RouterOS 7.19.6 [stable] Released

What's new in 7.19.6 (2025-Sep-12 12:02):

\*) bridge - improved system stability with IGMP snooping;

\*) ethernet - improved performance for hEX Refresh and hEX S (2025);

\*) ike2 - improved system stability;

\*) leds - fixed signal strength LEDs for Cube 60G ac;

\*) log - added VRF support for remote logging;

\*) log - establish a new connection to the remote log server when action settings are edited (e.g. after changing the src-address property);

\*) log - fixed memory leak when a connection to remote TCP log server failed;

\*) log - fixed unsent message retransmit to correct endpoints (introduced in v7.18);

\*) log - randomize source port when using remote logging with src-address specified;

\*) lte - fixed wrong subnet mask set to Chateau 5G R17 ax LTE interface;

\*) mac-server - fixed interface-list change behavior;

\*) poe-out - added "poe-in" detection for 802.3at poe-out capable ports;

\*) poe-out - firmware update for 802.3at capable boards (the update will cause brief power interruption to poe-out interfaces);

\*) poe-out - fixed "low-voltage" LLDP deny for RB5009 and RB960 in specific voltage/power-source combinations;

\*) poe-out - fixed missing error status report in rare cases for 802.3at;

\*) routerboot - fixed load of other kernels (e.g. OpenWrt) on NAND-less boards with MT762x, IPQ40xx, QCA955x and QCA953x CPUs ("/system routerboard upgrade" required);

\*) sfp - fixed the I2C clock frequency for the hEX S (2025) to prevent EEPROM read issues with GPON modules;

\*) switch - fixed switch name for CRS418;

\*) switch - improved system stability after switch reset while bonding interfaces are active (introduced in v7.18);

\*) traffic-flow - added support for IPv6 packet sampling;

\*) traffic-flow - fixed flow reports when using IPv6 and packet sampling (introduced in v7.18);

\*) w60g - fixed disconnect issue (introduced in v7.19.4);

\*) winbox - allow selecting bonding interface under "Switch/Rule" menu;

\*) winbox - use "auto" as default value for VXLAN "Don't Fragment" property;

i see TP-Link Omada always multiple hardware revision explain EAP670 and EAP783 and EAP773 always multiple hardware revision right

what you think AP recommend brand Ubiquiti ??? or what are Best tell me Please

What's best depends on what you really want because in WiFi7, every model from every manufacturer lack something. It's either number of mgig port, 10gig port, chain, radio.

Since you are using Asus, let's just do Asus. You will have zero learning curve.
Unless you are interested to spend the time and also money to learn networking, just stick to what you know best. To a lot of people, it makes no sense to spend money and still need to waste time.

Don't need mesh?
BE-92U. It has a 10gig port and 6ghz wifi, yet enough 2.5gig port for all your other stuff. Since 6ghz + MLO will exceed 2.5gig, I really do not see any reason to buy hardware with a single 10gig port for mesh. This model is only 2x2, the wireless mesh won't be spectacular either.

You use wired backhaul for mesh?
BT10. It has 2x 10gig port. One for internet, another for mesh node. You can daisy chain a third mesh node for 3 pack.
The downside is that there isn't really any extra mgig port to connect anything. This device is designed purely for wireless use case.

You use a wireless backhaul for mesh?
BQ16. It has an additional 5ghz band for backhaul. Don't bother with this model if you use a cable for backhaul since home environment will never have high enough endpoint density to make use of the dual 5ghz radio.
Downside is also no extra mgig port to connect anything. I mean if you use wireless backhaul then you can connect one 10gig to main node + another 10gig to mesh node. But with this setup, you ain't getting the lowest possible latency and maximum possible bandwidth.

As you can see, the best product don't exist, each model has trade off.

Now on to Ubiquiti. For you to use their product, you must also use a UCG or deploy your own Unifi OS Server, which means you must already have a home server.

From here onwards, you need to buy PoE switch. For 10gig 60W PoE, they came with a lot of ports. If you have many PoE device, then it's worth it, else it's a lot of wasted PoE port. Also the main use case for mgig PoE is only AP. So you are also throwing a lot of money into 10gig ports and just run them as 1gig.

However, if money is not a problem, then go for it. If you purely love aesthetic, this is okay too. Their rack + accessories + ether lighting looks great. Purely aesthetic point of view, not technical.

For their AP, I will be upfront. I will never buy another Ubiquiti AP after using one. YMMV.

If your wifi endpoint is mostly homogeneous, meaning they are all Intel laptop and your phones are all Qualcomm SoC, you will be fine.

If you have a lot of unknown endpoint with unknown wifi chip, like IoT heavy environment, better avoid Ubiquiti wifi.

From this alone you can see why many enterprise don't have problem with Ubiquiti. They are mostly Intel laptop and nothing else.

It doesn't means Ubiquiti is not a shitty product. I am just saying it works fine in a homogeneous environment.

Mikrotik wifi? Nah...

Bestest ever wifi7 AP? Perhaps a Ruckus with Unleashed. Easy to setup, super great performance, no external controller required, no licensing fee.
But the price.... $$$$
You also need a 60W PoE mgig switch... $$$$

This post has been edited by kwss: Sep 17 2025, 05:23 AM

FYI. Tested the ONR Skyworth wifi 7, can get 10xxMbps. Then U6 pro, I only get 8xxMbps at very close range. I'm sure Asus BT10 cat reach 1xxx easily.

Easily 3gig using 2x2 phone and 5gig for 4x4 endpoint. Skyworth ONR will never reach those speed.

Distance and speed test with phone:


Backhaul speedtest which is basically 4x4 with MLO:


It's due to the speed of wifi 7, I feel deployment without 5gig port is not worth it. All deployment without 5gig port just stick to wifi6.

This post has been edited by kwss: Sep 17 2025, 07:38 PM

i like ceiling wifi we run Cable i don't need MLO we can work ROAMING without disturbed disconnect wifi
yah i know POE Switch need it
Mikrotik wifi not need it
Mikrotik like RB5009 OR CCR2xxx waiting all port 2.5G Port

WHY EAP670 still with look picture
EAP670 look like fair away 45 feet look very good 30 feet look good
but Ubiquiti can't beat EAP670 hmm

you think EAP670 they always make multiple hardware revision i am correct

ASUS don't want anymore because last time few month ago very bad news about Thousands Of Asus Routers Reportedly Affected By “ViciousTrap” Backdoor

so i plan get new latest mikrotik all port 2.5G delay

that why i plan AP with POE Switch





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MLO is what makes wifi7 so much faster than 6 / 6e. Why you don't want MLO? You can have MLO and still roam between AP. They are totally different thing and not related to each other.

Your graph says it all, Ubiquiti AP is shitty. End of story.

All devices from every manufacturer get hacked one way or another. It's not logical to avoid Asus simply because they appear on the news. They actually have long firmware lifecycle which helps in security. You as the user must always keep everything updated and not expose the WebUi / SSH / telnet to the Internet.

I mean you can take a chance with TP-Link firmware lifecycle. Maybe they are better, maybe not. I am judging firmware lifecycle of manufacturer based on their history. The future remains a mystery.

I am sure you already know which Omada AP you want. Your list is already their top tier stuff.
If you are going for their ceiling AP, get their 10gig PoE switch too. It's actually the cheapest 10g PoE switch in the world right now. For that features, it's competing with Cisco 1300 (C1300-16XTS), priced about the same but have more ports + PoE.

You can get the rb5009 and connect the SFP+ port into your Omada switch. Or LACP those 1gig port, since you suddenly have so many ports in your switch.

The said switch:
SX3832MPP
https://www.omadanetworks.com/my/business-n...-max/sx3832mpp/

Do note that consumer wifi like Asus always good at speed and range. You might need 3 AP to get the speed and range like Asus. Enterprise AP is all about consistency and stability. Asus router still better for most home: simple, fast and very good coverage.

RB5009 SFP+ 1 Port only will be use GPON PON STICK hmmm not enough so i will wait 2.5G all ports
POE Switch no need 24 Ports
enough 8 Port POE or 5 Port POE

do you think Omada AP they make always multiple hardware revision
i did google unable to found i think got hidden ??
10gig PoE switch recommed brand and model we need 8Port enough or 5Port Enough
do need Omada controller hardware like OC300 ???? or no need ?

i was think MLO wont work Roaming
so you tested MLO with Roaming let say downstairs AP and you go UPSTAIRS AP still stay WIFI without disconnect disturbed will auto Roaming staying WIFI Connected right

The rb5009 has a 2.5g port. Plug that into your switch. If you need higher speed and don't want to LACP, plug the ONT stick into your switch and do ROAS (Router on a stick) setup. It will work full duplex up to 5g and half duplex all the way to 10g.

Go to the product download page and there's a drop-down to select hardware revision. EAP783 has v1 and v1.60.

Do not buy the OC200, it has been abandoned. Get the OC220 instead.

I don't know what switch to recommend you. You need to know your AP power draw, then the number of AP, plus any other PoE device. Add them all up +20% extra to be safe.
Every small 10g PoE switch out there has limited power, so this is your homework.

Omada AP support 802.11k/v/r. Your endpoint also need to support those standard to roam.

hmm i still like Enterprise AP because more stability and longer time then consumer wifi i already know

OHH batter OC300 future proof
if EAP783 OR EAP670
explain EAP783 X5 OR EAP670 X5
which recommed Switch POE for safety +20% extra

None of the small switch can do it.
40Wx5x1.2 = 240W of pure PoE output.

Okay, the Cisco C9200CX-8UXG-2X can do the power but it has only 4x 10g port. The rest are 1g port.

The price for that Cisco, you better get the big Omada switch I recommend earlier. I don't think you will utilize even 20% features of this Cisco switch.

If I'm buying a switch, I will buy this, simply because it can do NetFlow, BGP and PTP. Plus it's fanless.

OC300 don't necessary give you future-proofing. TP-Link support is based on launch date. OC220 is newer.
OC300 won't give you additional feature over OC220.


EDIT:
Maybe Ubiquiti Pro XG 10 PoE.
But now you need 2 controllers. One for Omada, one for Ubiquiti. At USD700, the cost per port is quite premium for the feature.

Ubiquiti L3 switch is also all lies, they are actually L2.

This post has been edited by kwss: Sep 18 2025, 10:36 PM

10G network still expensive. I would go with Flex 2.5G PoE switch if I don't have 10G computer and NAS.

Doing 10g wirespeed is not easy yo. Even 2.5g wirespeed switch is expensive.

Those el-cheapo 2.5g switch actually cannot do wirespeed. They just daisy chain a few chips together. You do get what you pay for.
You can see the teardown:


If traffic pattern is mostly North-South, then just wait until you have that Internet speed to upgrade.
- or -
Just buy the Asus and call it a day. You are getting the promised WiFi 7 improvement. No controller, no switch, no hassle.
Not exactly cheap but they do deliver.

tng55 Why you need 5 AP?
If you can live with 4 AP, then you can use this switch:
https://www.omadanetworks.com/us/business-n...-max/sx3206hpp/

One OC220, all in.