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post Jul 31 2018, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Jul 20 2018, 10:46 PM)
Hey, that box on the left looks familiar... smile.gif

Thanks for meeting up. And watch out for the "RB750Gr3. Will it blend?" video soon.
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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Jul 16 2018, 07:10 AM)
I don't really get what you mean because I never mentioned getting a CCR1036 .. ? My point was that the CCR1009 even without the 10Gbps port would be sufficient for TMs latest offering. If they had a package above 1Gbps, I'd most likely switch to something with 2 SFP+ ports or more to fully utilize the service. The alternative would be using an SFP+ switch with VLANs to reuse a single 10Gbps+ port on the CCR1009 at the cost of total throughput. Neither of those setups would require link aggregation.

MLPPP and bonding was in reference to what they could potentially do to provide 2Gbps+ service on their existing infrastructure without switching to 10GPON or another access network technology -- so the aggregation would only be on the WAN interface. Of course, as you mentioned, it wouldn't be ideal for TM as you'd probably run into issues with imbalanced or out of order traffic flows depending on the implementation.
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When getting any routerboards, even the CCR you're quite wrong about which one to get.

Firstly, you dont need 10Gb/s for WAN, sure i have a 36 core CCR with 2 SFP+ but i also use it for other things that arent network related.
2nd is that if you need software processing speeds, mikrotik has quad core ARM routers coming out thats faster than the RB3011 so it will handle TM's fastest new internet. The RB3011 does 500Mb/s of software processing for NAT, QoS, firewall without using hardware acceleration. Still the CCR1009 would be a better choice for full symmetrical connections (2Gb/s). When preparing for >1Gb/s, you can bond ports together.

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Finally got my hAP AC, used unit at a significant discount. I didn't want to pay full price for it as I've a feeling it's going to be replaced with another 3-chain model soon.

Anyway will test it later and see if it can beat my RM250 Aztech FG7009 which set this, I think, rather impressive benchmark.

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800Mbps+ iPerf3 from MacBook Pro Retina 2013 (USB3 GBe Ethernet) to MacBook Pro Retina 2013 (5Ghz AC 80MHz)

Aztech is 4-chain 5Ghz (Quantenna). MacBooks are 3 (Broadcom).

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post Aug 2 2018, 05:17 PM


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RouterOS 6.43rc51 has been released.
https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=677068#p677617
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post Aug 4 2018, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Aug 1 2018, 09:39 PM)
Finally got my hAP AC, used unit at a significant discount. I didn't want to pay full price for it as I've a feeling it's going to be replaced with another 3-chain model soon.

Anyway will test it later and see if it can beat my RM250 Aztech FG7009 which set this, I think, rather impressive benchmark.

iPerf3
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800Mbps+ iPerf3 from MacBook Pro Retina 2013 (USB3 GBe Ethernet) to MacBook Pro Retina 2013 (5Ghz AC 80MHz)

Aztech is 4-chain 5Ghz (Quantenna). MacBooks are 3 (Broadcom).
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Wait is that 850mbps+ on 5ghz wifi? Holy crap im getting that router asap
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post Aug 6 2018, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Aug 1 2018, 09:39 PM)
Finally got my hAP AC, used unit at a significant discount. I didn't want to pay full price for it as I've a feeling it's going to be replaced with another 3-chain model soon.

Anyway will test it later and see if it can beat my RM250 Aztech FG7009 which set this, I think, rather impressive benchmark.

iPerf3
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800Mbps+ iPerf3 from MacBook Pro Retina 2013 (USB3 GBe Ethernet) to MacBook Pro Retina 2013 (5Ghz AC 80MHz)

Aztech is 4-chain 5Ghz (Quantenna). MacBooks are 3 (Broadcom).
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What is the distance?
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post Aug 6 2018, 04:23 PM


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QUOTE(cyberic @ Aug 6 2018, 04:16 PM)
What is the distance?
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Same room, about 6ft.
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post Aug 6 2018, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Aug 4 2018, 08:15 PM)
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was actually agreeing with you, disagreeing with the guy you quoted.
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Hac ac or hac ac2 better? I have asus 86u, 66u and t mobile *asus 68u* i tot *asus 68u can get aimesh but in the end cannot do it.

So was thinking to replace the tmobile unit with microtik hap ac/ac2.

66u maybe keep in fridge.
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post Aug 20 2018, 05:29 PM

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Omg 4011iGS+5HacQ2HnD-IN-US

I can decipher.

10gigabit port.
1SFP
4CHAIN WIRELESS 5ghz
2chain wireless 2.4ghz

In time for 800mbps? I will relegate the asus86ac to secondary WiFi duty.

I want to get another 4 cap AC to go with this
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Aug 20 2018, 05:29 PM)
Omg 4011iGS+5HacQ2HnD-IN-US

I can decipher.

10gigabit port.
1SFP
4CHAIN WIRELESS 5ghz
2chain wireless 2.4ghz

In time for 800mbps? I will relegate the asus86ac to secondary WiFi duty.

I want to get another 4 cap AC to go with this
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no such thing is that 4011, i searched.
However i did find https://mikrotik.com/product/wireless_wire which says it has a range of 200meters or more, so for those who want gigabit speeds without powerline or wifi, this is the answer, or if you want unifi at some other address and beam to your address, i think line of sight is important too which is useful if your condo(fake in malaysia)/apartment has VDSL and you want fiber optic unifi to one of the homes nearby.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Aug 20 2018, 05:29 PM)
Omg 4011iGS+5HacQ2HnD-IN-US

I can decipher.

10gigabit port.
1SFP
4CHAIN WIRELESS 5ghz
2chain wireless 2.4ghz

In time for 800mbps? I will relegate the asus86ac to secondary WiFi duty.

I want to get another 4 cap AC to go with this
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Can't wait for this.

SFP port is SFP+, nice. 10 gigabit ports is actually 10 x gigabit ports. At first I read that as 10 x 10GBe ports. LOL. Looks like Annapurna 4-core CPU, maybe same as RB1100AHx4?

4 external 5 Ghz antennas, outer 2 are shared with 2Ghz.

Similar design to the RB2011.

More info here: https://fccid.io/TV74011GS-5HQ2HD

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post Aug 20 2018, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Aug 20 2018, 07:40 PM)
no such thing is that 4011, i searched.
However i did find https://mikrotik.com/product/wireless_wire which says it has a range of 200meters or more, so for those who want gigabit speeds without powerline or wifi, this is the answer, or if you want unifi at some other address and beam to your address, i think line of sight is important too which is useful if your condo(fake in malaysia)/apartment has VDSL and you want fiber optic unifi to one of the homes nearby.
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It is not 100% released, FCC filing only at the beginning of august 2018. Mikrotik is keeping mum too, removed thread on the forum regarding it. I saw it in the rb3011 thread.

I think with 2 months of absence for the mikrotik newsletter Sept 2018 could finally bring the good news to alot of network gear enthusiast.
QUOTE(soonwai @ Aug 20 2018, 08:56 PM)
Can't wait for this.

SFP port is SFP+, nice. 10 gigabit ports is actually 10 x gigabit ports. At first I read that as 10 x 10GBe ports. LOL. Looks like Annapurna 4-core CPU, maybe same as RB1100AHx4?

4 external 5 Ghz antennas, outer 2 are shared with 2Ghz.

Similar design to the RB2011.

More info here: https://fccid.io/TV74011GS-5HQ2HD
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I jizzed if it is even 2.5gigabit port.... hahah 10GbE port flex.gif flex.gif flex.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

in anycase SFP+ can be used to connect to a 10 port switch for more expansion? What is SFP+?
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post Aug 20 2018, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Aug 20 2018, 10:07 PM)
It is not 100% released, FCC filing only at the beginning of august 2018. Mikrotik is keeping mum too, removed thread on the forum regarding it. I saw it in the rb3011 thread.

I think with 2 months of absence for the mikrotik newsletter Sept 2018 could finally bring the good news to alot of network gear enthusiast.
I jizzed if it is even 2.5gigabit port.... hahah 10GbE port  flex.gif  flex.gif  flex.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

in anycase SFP+ can be used to connect to a 10 port switch for more expansion? What is SFP+?
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10Gb SFP . SFP is normally 1.25Gb.
I hope you know what SFP is.

Im hoping mikrotik will use the updated Tilera architecture now owned and released by mellanox replacing their MIPS like manycore with ARM instead, but it'd have to be clocked higher than the Tilegx CPUs just to get an edge as MIPS is faster than ARM for NAT and routing clock per clock, this has been tested. So at the same clocks and core count, MIPS is faster than ARM for networking but ARM is faster when running software or if you need VPN, proxying and so on, basically will run dude better.
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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Aug 20 2018, 11:07 PM)
10Gb SFP . SFP is normally 1.25Gb.
I hope you know what SFP is.

Im hoping mikrotik will use the updated Tilera architecture now owned and released by mellanox replacing their MIPS like manycore with ARM instead, but it'd have to be clocked higher than the Tilegx CPUs just to get an edge as MIPS is faster than ARM for NAT and routing clock per clock, this has been tested. So at the same clocks and core count, MIPS is faster than ARM for networking but ARM is faster when running software or if you need VPN, proxying and so on, basically will run dude better.
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Small form factor pluggable port. Can be expanded with fiber or normal Ethernet port. Haha something like that.
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post Aug 22 2018, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Aug 20 2018, 07:40 PM)
no such thing is that 4011, i searched.
However i did find https://mikrotik.com/product/wireless_wire which says it has a range of 200meters or more, so for those who want gigabit speeds without powerline or wifi, this is the answer, or if you want unifi at some other address and beam to your address, i think line of sight is important too which is useful if your condo(fake in malaysia)/apartment has VDSL and you want fiber optic unifi to one of the homes nearby.
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Look what I found.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/sear...1&hl=en&ct=clnk


Because RB4011 was publicly disclosed by FCC, I made new common thread about 4011 series.
At this time, only desktop wireless version of RB4011 was presented, so all info based on it

What we know for now about RB4011:

1.Desktop wireless version. External photos:
front.jpg
top.jpg
back.jpg
Bottom.jpg.

2.Desktop wireless version. Internal photos:
PCB top with shields and card.jpg
PCB top.jpg
PCB back.jpg.

3. Model Name: RB4011iGs+5HacQ2HnD-IN (RB4011iGs+5HacQ2HnD-IN-US for USA market)
Based on mikrotik naming scheme:
RB4011 – family
iGS – PoE (i)n, (G)igabit Ethernet, (S)FP;
5HacQ2HnD - dual-band wireless with onboard 5 Ghz 802.11ac quad chain with high output (wow, but no ac wave2, no MU-MIMO, as RouterOS not yet support it), and mini-pcie card R11e (2.4Ghz 2x2 802.11n). Not bad. And about anthennas - according to FCC docs, 4 x 3dbi omni (look at photo)

4. Max power consuption: 33 W.

5. Power supply and PoE: 18-57v with jack or PoE in via Ether1. According to photo, Ether10 capable to PoE-Out (PoE passthrough?)

6. Switches - according to mainboard photo, two Realtek switches.

7. CPU - according to mainboard photo, sample build on Amazon Annapurna Labs Alpine CPU, but CPU model remains unknown. RB1100ahx4 also use Alpine CPU, so, theoretically, 4011 have onboard more cheap and slow version that rb1100ahx4.

8. RAM - unknown.

9. Flash - unknown.


Maybe @normis or other MT guys can drop some light about full tech specs?
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Aug 22 2018, 09:20 AM)
...iGS – PoE (i)n, (G)igabit Ethernet, (S)FP;
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5. Power supply and PoE: 18-57v with jack or PoE in via Ether1. According to photo, Ether10 capable to PoE-Out (PoE passthrough?)
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The "i" in the name is actually for PoE-Out. Hopefully more than one PoE port but at least one. And there's also a console RJ45 port at the back.

I wonder if can swap the R11e-2HPnD out for an R11e-LTE card.

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post Aug 22 2018, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Aug 22 2018, 12:15 PM)
The "i" in the name is actually for PoE-Out. Hopefully more than one PoE port but at least one. And there's also a console RJ45 port at the back.

I wonder if can swap the R11e-2HPnD out for an R11e-LTE card.
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Having fun trying to figure out what is the feature of the mikrotik router using its model serial. Haha, yeah I also like to have 2-3 Poe out. For CAP AC expansion. Finally being able to good coverage and let the routers and AP drop connection that are too low in signal strenght.

the R11e-LTE card is like your own personal LTE network?


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post Aug 22 2018, 12:58 PM


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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Aug 22 2018, 12:18 PM)
Having fun trying to figure out what is the feature of the mikrotik router using its model serial. Haha, yeah I also like to have 2-3 Poe out. For CAP AC expansion. Finally being able to good coverage and let the routers and AP drop connection that are too low in signal strenght.

the R11e-LTE card is like your own personal LTE network?
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Yeah, you can see almost all the features in its product name. Everything letter or number has a meaning. But looks like this RB4011 has no USB or SD card slot? I couldn't tell from the FCC docs but the name has no "U" in it. Also no "A" so probably Level 4 license? But that's a software thing so I guess they can add it in later and it won't affect the FCC cert.

The LTE card is for mobile broadband. Just add a SIM card. Not sure about the antennas though.
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Aug 23 2018, 02:10 PM)
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Just got the 500 Mbps upgrade this morning and now I am looking for equipment upgrade..

Current setup:
Ground floor:
- Main router TP Link Archer C2
- Wireless AC speed up to 433 Mbps
- 4 Gigabit LAN ports
- TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit  (LAN endpoint 100Mbps connected to main router Archer C2)

First Floor:
- TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit  (wireless endpoint)
- Wireless AC speed up to 433 Mbps but capped at 100Mbps because of the LAN port is only 100mbps.

What router did you guys use that can utilize the 500mbps via wifi and the coverage is strong enough to upper floor (3 bars and above)?

I am looking at this currently but looking for opinion too:
TP-LINK Deco M5 AC1300
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I created a discussion thread above looking for device for my Unifi Turbo upgrade..

After surveying, based on the reviews.. it seemed that hAP Ac is a good equipment to replace my Archer C2+powerline.. but just wanna ask more opinion here on the hAP AC..

is it strong enough to first floor? the location that i will be putting the hAP AC is together with the Unifi BTU (Alcatel) at ground floor middle of the house..

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