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TSahpingko
post Aug 23 2018, 02:10 PM, updated 8y ago

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Just got the 500 Mbps upgrade this morning and now I am looking for equipment upgrade..

Current setup:
Ground floor:
- Main router TP Link Archer C2
- Wireless AC speed up to 433 Mbps
- 4 Gigabit LAN ports
- TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit (LAN endpoint 100Mbps connected to main router Archer C2)

First Floor:
- TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit (wireless endpoint)
- Wireless AC speed up to 433 Mbps but capped at 100Mbps because of the LAN port is only 100mbps.

What router did you guys use that can utilize the 500mbps via wifi and the coverage is strong enough to upper floor (3 bars and above)?

Surveying routers around since yesterday until today..

rounded down to these few good ones:
- TP-LINK Deco M5 AC1300 2 pack - RM555
- Mikrotik hAP - RM580
- ASUS RT AC66U - RM 625
- Linksys EA7500 Max-Stream AC1900+ Mu-Mimo Gigabit Wi-Fi Router (EA7500-AH) - RM 699

Anyone used these routers above? can help to do a quick speed test via wifi if you already on 500mbps?

This post has been edited by ahpingko: Aug 24 2018, 10:39 AM
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post Aug 23 2018, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Aug 23 2018, 02:10 PM)
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Just got the 500 Mbps upgrade this morning and now I am looking for equipment upgrade..

Current setup:
Ground floor:
- Main router TP Link Archer C2
- Wireless AC speed up to 433 Mbps
- 4 Gigabit LAN ports
- TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit  (LAN endpoint 100Mbps connected to main router Archer C2)

First Floor:
- TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit  (wireless endpoint)
- Wireless AC speed up to 433 Mbps but capped at 100Mbps because of the LAN port is only 100mbps.

What router did you guys use that can utilize the 500mbps via wifi and the coverage is strong enough to upper floor (3 bars and above)?

I am looking at this currently but looking for opinion too:
TP-LINK Deco M5 AC1300
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You need a router that can support 3 X 3 MIMO, and devices that can support 3 X 3 too, and the Deco M5 is only 2x2.

I would suggest the TP-Link Archer C7 v4 or v5, which is 3 X 3, or even better, the TP-Link C3150 V2, which is 4 X 4.
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post Aug 23 2018, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Aug 23 2018, 02:30 PM)
You need a router that can support 3 X 3 MIMO, and devices that can support 3 X 3 too, and the Deco M5 is only 2x2.

I would suggest the TP-Link Archer C7 v4 or v5, which is 3 X 3, or even better, the TP-Link C3150 V2, which is 4 X 4.
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Sorry for asking, is 3x3 or 4x4 impact the signal coverage too? means like 4x4 is wider? or same coverage?

I am also interested in Mikrotik hAP AC but worried the coverage not strong enough and end up need to spend for another powerline..
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post Aug 23 2018, 02:43 PM

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i also looking for a good router
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post Aug 23 2018, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Aug 23 2018, 02:41 PM)
Sorry for asking, is 3x3 or 4x4 impact the signal coverage too? means like 4x4 is wider? or same coverage?

I am also interested in Mikrotik hAP AC but worried the coverage not strong enough and end up need to spend for another powerline..
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No, it is just MIMO, or the ability to transmit and receive multiple radio chains. It has nothing to do with signal coverage. Mikrotik hAP AC is a good device, but it functions best as an AP. I would recommend the TP Link Archer C7 v4 or v5, if you have a normal sized house, and if you have a slightly bigger house, try the TP-Link Archer AC3150 v2. Alternatively, go for the high end Asus routers if you can afford it.
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post Aug 23 2018, 02:55 PM

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This post is interesting.

How about Netgear Orbi? It is the best mesh wifi system according to some reviews.

How to handle VLAN of hypptv through Mesh Wifi , are they able to manage Vlan trunking?



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want good wifi

use Ubiquiti AP such as link below

https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap/

of cos ur router must be good gigabit one
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QUOTE(Drian @ Aug 23 2018, 02:55 PM)
This post is interesting.

How about Netgear Orbi? It is the best mesh wifi system according to some reviews.

How to handle VLAN of hypptv through Mesh Wifi , are they able to manage Vlan trunking?
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Up to you. VLAN trunking have to be done via a switch.

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post Aug 23 2018, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Aug 23 2018, 03:07 PM)
Up to you. VLAN trunking have to be done via a switch.
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I've always wondered whether those mesh wifi router/ satelite is able to this :-


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It would simplify the whole system if the router/satelite can manage all the VLAN instead of buying additional switches to do it.
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post Aug 23 2018, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Aug 23 2018, 03:28 PM)
I've always wondered whether those mesh wifi router/ satelite is able to this :-
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It would simplify the whole system if the router/satelite can manage all the VLAN instead of buying additional switches to do it.
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OOKAS mentioned that the latest TP Link Deco M5 able to support unifi directly already..
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Aug 23 2018, 03:45 PM)
OOKAS mentioned that the latest TP Link Deco M5 able to support unifi directly already..
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It's not supporting unifi that is the concern.

Is the ability to transmit both vlan500&600 wirelessly and each of the satelite is able to untag them. Also it needs to untag the internet data and transmit through wifi for all the devices.



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is it possible to run a cat6 cable up?

then connect another wireless ap to that cat6 at the top?
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QUOTE(kutitata @ Aug 23 2018, 03:51 PM)
is it possible to run a cat6 cable up?

then connect another wireless ap to that cat6 at the top?
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Then there will be 2 wifi ssid and you need to manually change it on your phone etc.
The point of mesh is so that you have only 1 ssid and the mesh wifi automatically changes to the router/satelite nearest to you.


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QUOTE(Drian @ Aug 23 2018, 03:48 PM)
It's not supporting unifi that is the concern.

Is the ability to transmit both vlan500&600 wirelessly and each of the satelite is able to untag them. Also it needs to untag the internet data and transmit through wifi for all the devices.
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i think support unifi means can already support the VLAN tagging for internet and the hypptv else how to label as supporting unifi? lol..

QUOTE(kutitata @ Aug 23 2018, 03:51 PM)
is it possible to run a cat6 cable up?

then connect another wireless ap to that cat6 at the top?
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nope.. if yes also wont be using powerline...
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post Aug 23 2018, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Aug 23 2018, 03:10 PM)
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Just got the 500 Mbps upgrade this morning and now I am looking for equipment upgrade..

Current setup:
Ground floor:
- Main router TP Link Archer C2
- Wireless AC speed up to 433 Mbps
- 4 Gigabit LAN ports
- TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit  (LAN endpoint 100Mbps connected to main router Archer C2)

First Floor:
- TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit  (wireless endpoint)
- Wireless AC speed up to 433 Mbps but capped at 100Mbps because of the LAN port is only 100mbps.

What router did you guys use that can utilize the 500mbps via wifi and the coverage is strong enough to upper floor (3 bars and above)?

I am looking at this currently but looking for opinion too:
TP-LINK Deco M5 AC1300
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DECO M5 Wireless 400 Mbps on 2.4 GHz + 867 Mbps on 5 GHz

867Mbps I have doubt to get 500Mbps in real environment, furthermore, Mesh Router don't have wireless channel setting, it is on automatic mode.


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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Aug 23 2018, 03:57 PM)
i think support unifi means can already support the VLAN tagging for internet and the hypptv else how to label as supporting unifi? lol..

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Yes most router also support unifi but they are not able to transmit both vlan wirelessly.
eg:- Like the Asus AC68U it will just output vlan600 on port4 and Vlan500 on port 1-3. It's not able to trunk both vlan and transmit wirelessly. Asus also support unifi but can't do that. You have to be very careful what "support unifi" means exactly.




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QUOTE(Drian @ Aug 23 2018, 04:05 PM)
Yes most router also support unifi but they are not able to transmit both vlan wirelessly.
eg:-  Like the Asus AC68U  it will just output vlan600 on port4 and Vlan500 on port 1-3. It's not able to trunk both vlan and transmit wirelessly. Asus also support unifi but can't do that. You have to be very careful what "support unifi" means exactly.
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Thanks for the explaination, I think I get what you meant.. Need to find out further first on the latest firmware for Deco M5..

anybody using it currently?
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QUOTE(Drian @ Aug 23 2018, 03:48 PM)
It's not supporting unifi that is the concern.

Is the ability to transmit both vlan500&600 wirelessly and each of the satelite is able to untag them. Also it needs to untag the internet data and transmit through wifi for all the devices.
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Not possible using Deco. You have to get Mikrotik or an enterprise router for that.

QUOTE(Drian @ Aug 23 2018, 04:05 PM)
Yes most router also support unifi but they are not able to transmit both vlan wirelessly.
eg:-  Like the Asus AC68U  it will just output vlan600 on port4 and Vlan500 on port 1-3. It's not able to trunk both vlan and transmit wirelessly. Asus also support unifi but can't do that. You have to be very careful what "support unifi" means exactly.
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Most consumer router do not offer that feature.
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Unrelated topics to Unifi turbo.

My unifi package still runs 30mbps (pending for turbo), but my wifi strength is super weak at 1st floor.

Current setup:
Ground floor:
- Main router TP Link Archer C5
- LAN connected to TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit

First Floor:
- (WIFI boardcasted by Ground floor) TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit (wireless endpoint)
- spare router TP link Archer C5


Can i boardcast the signal ? Using this setup (Powerline LAN --> spare router TP Link Archer C5)


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QUOTE(enteraname1 @ Aug 23 2018, 04:40 PM)
Unrelated topics to Unifi turbo.

My unifi package still runs 30mbps (pending for turbo), but my wifi strength is super weak at 1st floor.

Current setup:
Ground floor:
- Main router TP Link Archer C5
- LAN connected to TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit

First Floor:
-  (WIFI boardcasted by Ground floor) TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit (wireless endpoint)
-  spare router TP link Archer C5
Can i boardcast the signal ? Using this setup (Powerline LAN --> spare router TP Link Archer C5)
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The wireless signal from the wireless endpoint on your powerline should be strong enough right? How come you need to add another spare router to the powerline?

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