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rizvanrp
post Jul 16 2018, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(jio @ Jul 16 2018, 06:22 AM)
If you're getting CCR1036 then of course only the 2 SFP+ models should be considered (unless if you need more SFP but not SFP+).For CCR1009, even if you don't have 10Gb clients, it will be much better than relying on link aggregation. You will waste so much ports with 4 port link aggregation, not to mention potential bottleneck.
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I don't really get what you mean because I never mentioned getting a CCR1036 .. ? My point was that the CCR1009 even without the 10Gbps port would be sufficient for TMs latest offering. If they had a package above 1Gbps, I'd most likely switch to something with 2 SFP+ ports or more to fully utilize the service. The alternative would be using an SFP+ switch with VLANs to reuse a single 10Gbps+ port on the CCR1009 at the cost of total throughput. Neither of those setups would require link aggregation.

MLPPP and bonding was in reference to what they could potentially do to provide 2Gbps+ service on their existing infrastructure without switching to 10GPON or another access network technology -- so the aggregation would only be on the WAN interface. Of course, as you mentioned, it wouldn't be ideal for TM as you'd probably run into issues with imbalanced or out of order traffic flows depending on the implementation.
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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Jul 16 2018, 07:10 AM)
I don't really get what you mean because I never mentioned getting a CCR1036 .. ? My point was that the CCR1009 even without the 10Gbps port would be sufficient for TMs latest offering. If they had a package above 1Gbps, I'd most likely switch to something with 2 SFP+ ports or more to fully utilize the service. The alternative would be using an SFP+ switch with VLANs to reuse a single 10Gbps+ port on the CCR1009 at the cost of total throughput. Neither of those setups would require link aggregation.

MLPPP and bonding was in reference to what they could potentially do to provide 2Gbps+ service on their existing infrastructure without switching to 10GPON or another access network technology -- so the aggregation would only be on the WAN interface. Of course, as you mentioned, it wouldn't be ideal for TM as you'd probably run into issues with imbalanced or out of order traffic flows depending on the implementation.
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I was referring to using the ccr for internal network routing/firewall. Forget what I said then since you only intend to use it for internet routing.

edit: my reply was only about the SFP+

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post Jul 16 2018, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(jio @ Jul 16 2018, 07:51 AM)
I was referring to using the ccr for internal network routing/firewall. Forget what I said then since you only intend to use it for internet routing.
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How exactly were you referring to using the CCR for internal routing in what I'm assuming is a router-on-a-stick configuration considering I clearly stated I would be purchasing mine in anticipation of the 800Mbps TM upgrade? You also mentioned throughput testing with fasttrack+PPPoE, a protocol that's generally not deployed on internal LANs, along with symmetric/asymmetric upload speeds .. nothing to do with internal routing or firewalls.

I'll 'forget what you said' but I really have no idea why you said it in the first place :/
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post Jul 16 2018, 08:43 PM

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i got this from shopee.
https://shopee.com.my/Adjustable-5-9-12V-18...80549.727907068
use 4 recycled batteries from laptop and it works. just testing I use it to power my rb750gl. can select 5,9,12v.

actually not sure how to put it to good use yet.
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Hi, got my RB750GrGr3 and followed the instructions at https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Mikrotik_and...y_arpee/soonwai
to set it up.

WebFig is version v6.38.7

I noticed that the 2 VLANs that I created is not "displayed" under ether1. Is this normal?

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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Jul 19 2018, 12:22 PM)
Hi, got my RB750GrGr3 and followed the instructions at https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Mikrotik_and...y_arpee/soonwai
to set it up.

WebFig is version v6.38.7

I noticed that the 2 VLANs that I created is not "displayed" under ether1. Is this normal?

Thx
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That's normal, you'll only see the vlans under their respective interfaces in Winbox. Just a display difference between Webfig and Winbox.
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Thx. Got it up and running just now after a few hiccups. Deleted all the entries and tried again and somehow it worked. LOL
QUOTE(soonwai @ Jul 20 2018, 12:30 AM)
That's normal, you'll only see the vlans under their respective interfaces in Winbox. Just a display difference between Webfig and Winbox.
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QUOTE(charymsylyn @ Jul 15 2018, 09:38 PM)
Sublime is now on Lazada, buying from Lazada is better if you're using CC plus you can sometimes use vouchers. Their Lelong prices are cheaper but there is a surcharge when using CC which usually makes it more expensive than Lazada.

Synchroweb online store pricing is usually higher than Sublime.

Why I'm commenting on this? You previously helped me with IPv6 setup on my ac lite and I now need something with GigE ports to support my coming 500Mbps speeds. I decided on ac2 since the lack of 3rd wifi stream wouldn't really be too big issue with 500Mbps. I need to read up on single cable VLAN tagging as I only have single cable from ac2 to my HyppTV box and AP. I thank you in advance for being generous when helping me next week. rclxms.gif
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Sure thing, no problem. Can’t wait for my upgrade too. Finally can stress the hEX. I only just found out myself but Synchroweb had the hEX on Raya sale for RM202. Ended on July 15 though.
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Anyone want to try?

https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?t...nnectx-2.19186/

10G ethernet over Cat5E (using ConnectX-2 PCIE cards, Mikrotik S+RJ10 transceiver and Mikrotik S+ switch.)

One of the tests:
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ConnectX-2/S+RJ10 <-> 50 ft Cat6 UTP patch cable <-> wall jack <-> ~40 ft. Cat5e UTP cable (in wall) <-> patch panel <-> 3 ft Cat6 UTP patch cable <-> Mikrotik CSS326/S+RJ10
here I am running 50ft patch cable to a different wall jack with longer Cat5e run to the patch panel
10 Gb/s link was established, iperf reported ~9100-9200 Mbits/sec throughput.


I think it's amazing. This will be good for people like me where re-cabling existing Cat5e is not really an option.
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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Jul 15 2018, 01:11 PM)
It's somewhat inadequate based on my testing with iperf3. The CPU usage runs high even with basic routing between two interfaces and no VLANs, PPPoE encapsulation or NAT. Individual connections tend to slow down for whatever reason when there's a high amount of connections being tracked. You also need to make sure you use ports 1/3/5 and 2/4 for your WAN ingress/egress due to how the components are wired or you might be bottlenecked.
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While reading more on this, I found out there is also another diagram for "enabled switching". I'm confused, in a typical TM Unifi setup, it will work like the "disabled switching" diagram?

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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Jul 16 2018, 03:44 AM)
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Hey, that box on the left looks familiar... smile.gif

Thanks for meeting up. And watch out for the "RB750Gr3. Will it blend?" video soon.
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QUOTE(soonwai @ Jul 20 2018, 06:55 PM)
Sure thing, no problem. Can’t wait for my upgrade too. Finally can stress the hEX. I only just found out myself but Synchroweb had the hEX on Raya sale for RM202. Ended on July 15 though.
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Hi soonwai,

After several resets to fix many mistakes and unexpected behaviours, I finally got my ac2 to the point where it's functioning identical to what my ac lite used to do, which is the main router for the APs and Unifi TV STB. I've gone through your old post (https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2040480&st=1580&p=88573740&#entry88573740) but the scenario you have isn't identical to mine and I trying to brain what needs to be changed. icon_question.gif

My plan is to combine both IPTV and normal internet output from ac2 ether1 and input to ac lite ether5. STB connects to ether4. ether1-3 and wifi for normal internet traffic.

Admin mac address can be any randomly generated mac address? So for my ac2, below would be correct (my ether2 goes to BTU) settings? Thank you very much again!

CODE
/interface bridge
add admin-mac=E9:65:B4:C2:1E:00 auto-mac=no name=STBInternet vlan-filtering=yes

/interface bridge port
add bridge=STBInternet interface=ether2 pvid=50
add bridge=STBInternet interface=ether1

/interface bridge vlan
add bridge=STBInternet tagged=ether1,STBInternet untagged=ether1 vlan-ids=50
add bridge=STBInternet tagged=ether2,ether1,STBInternet vlan-ids=600


Is this correct for ac lite?

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/interface ethernet switch port> print
#   NAME                SWITCH                VLAN-MODE VLAN-HEADER    DEFAULT-VLAN-ID
0   ether1              switch1               disabled  leave-as-is                  0
1   ether2              switch1               disabled  leave-as-is                  0
2   ether3              switch1               disabled  leave-as-is                  0
3   ether4              switch1               disabled  leave-as-is                  0
4   ether5              switch1               disabled  leave-as-is                  0
5   switch1-cpu         switch1               disabled  leave-as-is                  0


CODE
/interface bridge
add admin-mac=E9:65:B4:C2:1E:00 auto-mac=no name=STBInternet protocol-mode=none

/interface bridge port
add bridge=STBInternet interface=wlan1
add bridge=STBInternet interface=wlan2
add bridge=STBInternet interface=wlan3
add bridge=STBInternet interface=wlan4
add bridge=STBInternet interface=ether1
add bridge=STBInternet interface=ether2
add bridge=STBInternet interface=ether3
add bridge=STBInternet interface=ether4

/interface ethernet switch port
set 0 vlan-header=add-if-missing vlan-mode=secure
set 1 default-vlan-id=50 vlan-header=always-strip vlan-mode=secure
set 4 default-vlan-id=600 vlan-header=always-strip vlan-mode=secure
set 5 default-vlan-id=50 vlan-mode=secure

/interface ethernet switch vlan
add independent-learning=no ports=ether5,ether4 switch=STBInternet vlan-id=600
add independent-learning=no ports=ether5,ether2,switch1-cpu switch=STBInternet vlan-id=50


This post has been edited by charymsylyn: Jul 26 2018, 09:08 PM
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post Jul 27 2018, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(charymsylyn @ Jul 25 2018, 10:37 PM)
CODE
/interface bridge
add admin-mac=E9:65:B4:C2:1E:00 auto-mac=no name=STBInternet vlan-filtering=yes

/interface bridge port
add bridge=STBInternet interface=ether2 pvid=50
add bridge=STBInternet interface=ether1

/interface bridge vlan
add bridge=STBInternet tagged=ether1,STBInternet untagged=ether1 vlan-ids=50
add bridge=STBInternet tagged=ether2,ether1,STBInternet vlan-ids=600


This didn't work, adding the first line under /interface bridge port gave error message about the interface is linked to something else. Changing the bridge manually caused everything to stop working, had to reset and restore from backup. This clearly isn't easy. icon_question.gif
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hi guys...im noob in networking

i plan to subscribe to vpn

and my scenario is like this:

internet (unifi) -> router -> wifi AC -> desktop

i want the router to be able to connect to Unifi and OpenVPN at the same time...the desktop will go through VPN to reach the internet...but i want certain sites like Taobao.com to go through the line without VPN...

can mikrotik router with default firmware do this? which model do u guys suggest?
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Planning to get CCR1009 with Unifi ac pro soon. Are those TM unifi guide for Hex still apply to CCR?

This post has been edited by cyberic: Jul 28 2018, 11:10 PM
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hi guys. im new to this router. so this is the situation im having right now.

im trying to setup a hotspot in our CCR1009-7G-1C-1S+ router.
i managed to install the user manager etc everything is up and running.

my question is, how im gonna link external AP to the hotspot server?
for the AP im gonna use Asus RT-N12HP and RT AC68U.

just point the radius server address inside the Asus router?

tq
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post Jul 31 2018, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(smokey @ Jul 27 2018, 09:13 PM)
hi guys...im noob in networking

i plan to subscribe to vpn

and my scenario is like this:

internet (unifi) -> router -> wifi AC -> desktop

i want the router to be able to connect to Unifi and OpenVPN at the same time...the desktop will go through VPN to reach the internet...but i want certain sites like Taobao.com to go through the line without VPN...

can mikrotik router with default firmware do this? which model do u guys suggest?
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ISP direct fiber into mikrotik router but i did not use hotspot... using ubiquiti controller (10 uap-ac-shd) > Desktop + phones (SMB environment)

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post Jul 31 2018, 02:16 PM


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QUOTE(OKLY @ Jul 20 2018, 09:44 PM)
While reading more on this, I found out there is also another diagram for "enabled switching". I'm confused, in a typical TM Unifi setup, it will work like the "disabled switching" diagram?

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I may be wrong but with Mikrotik’s new bridge implementation, it’s dynamic. You can have ether4 and ether5 as in diagram 1, non-switched and ether1,2 and 3 switched as in diagram 2, simultaneously. Just ensure that HW switching is enabled for both bridge and ports.

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QUOTE(charymsylyn @ Jul 25 2018, 10:37 PM)
Hi soonwai,

After several resets to fix many mistakes and unexpected behaviours, I finally got my ac2 to the point where it's functioning identical to what my ac lite used to do, which is the main router for the APs and Unifi TV STB. I've gone through your old post (https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2040480&st=1580&p=88573740&#entry88573740) but the scenario you have isn't identical to mine and I trying to brain what needs to be changed. icon_question.gif

My plan is to combine both IPTV and normal internet output from ac2 ether1 and input to ac lite ether5. STB connects to ether4. ether1-3 and wifi for normal internet traffic.

Admin mac address can be any randomly generated mac address? So for my ac2, below would be correct (my ether2 goes to BTU) settings? Thank you very much again!

CODE
/interface bridge
add admin-mac=E9:65:B4:C2:1E:00 auto-mac=no name=STBInternet vlan-filtering=yes
...


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Sorry, I haven’t had time to really answer this. I just do the easy one first.

admin-mac for a bridge must be one of the ports in the bridge. If you’re not sure, remove admin-mac=xxx and just use auto-mac=yes. ROS will choose the first available port. The reason I set admin-mac is because when it’s on auto-mac, the MAC address of the bridges changes sometimes. Mikrotik support says auto-mac will choose the first available port in the bridge and it can be any of the ports.

As for my example for the vlan trunk. I use 2 different methods.

On the first router, I used vlans and bridges. On the 2nd router I used the switch features. This is just me messing around and for educational purposes. You don’t have to follow exactly.

What I recommend is just use vlan and bridges for both routers to establish the trunk. Essentially the vlan, bridge, ports config for router1 is the same for router2. More or less lah, the ports might be different.
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QUOTE(cyberic @ Jul 28 2018, 11:09 PM)
Planning to get CCR1009 with Unifi ac pro soon. Are those TM unifi guide for Hex still apply to CCR?
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Yes can, from RM100 to RM10000, same RouterOS same config for UnFi.

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