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 US stock discussion v4, Bulls-Bears HUAT AH!! Pigs get slaughter

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post Mar 16 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 15 2012, 11:35 AM)
Not sifu,
but my opinion is they want to increase the confidence from investor. A lot of banks in Us in these years since 2007/08 cut out their dividend by large amount. well most of the US bank if you noticed all still stuck in the level of 2009.
The regulation in US had set tougher rule for bank through volcker rule and Basel III to increase the reserve requirement from banks. Beside they also some of the business used to be generating profit for bank.

Too much cash doesn't mean they wont fail the stress test. The purpose of stress test is to test whether bank can withstand with financial shock. They key question what capital is used to withstand those financial shock. some of the capital may NOT BE QUALIFIED since the new rules have been imposed. For example, Hybrid equity which compose of equity and debt always ambiguous for the purpose of reserve capital. Increase equity from investor in order to meet those stress test is a huge cost since investor see DIVIDEND as  compulsory (which is very costly in perspective of bank) consistently.

my 2 cents correct me if I am wrong
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Thanks for the input! notworthy.gif
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post Mar 16 2012, 09:43 PM

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what to buy?
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post Mar 16 2012, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Mar 16 2012, 09:43 PM)
what to buy?
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Banking stocks are making a new high. XLF/BAC should be a safe bet.

Watch out BAC breakout approaching $10.
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post Mar 17 2012, 08:44 AM

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Waw, no one predicted end of last year that Dow would hit 13,000 this year.

The market is full of miracles.

From cannot, now everything can.

What a big difference .

Congratulations to those make the profits.
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post Mar 19 2012, 04:49 AM

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JESSE LIVERMORE SAYS BUY HIGH, SELL HIGHER cool2.gif
but dog jones at this level still no minor pullback yet laugh.gif
earnings season is next month & expect not much movement until earnings begin yawn.gif
expecting superb earnings, otherwise, longkang lo for my gambling time with call options sweat.gif

disca $2.80
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bwld $7.10
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sxci $10
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lulu $19.20
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dltr $12.16
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 17 2012, 08:44 AM)
Waw, no one predicted end of  last year that Dow would hit 13,000 this year.

The market is full of miracles.

From cannot, now everything can.

What a big difference .

Congratulations to those make the profits.
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US stocks is SEXY.
Bad condition wont last forever, it just matter of time when they will recover.hehe.
History will repeat itself,now H shares in HKSE is valued at cheap price. many people will only dare to go in after get some confidence. When most of the punter and trader try to avoid those stocks,it is a good time to hunt like for value investor.
But my bet on US banking stocks is they will recover slower than other stocks due to strict regulation. so I put bit by bit every month until now since beginning last year tongue.gif .
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I enter c at 47.00 3 year ago. still making loss.
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Mar 19 2012, 10:03 PM)
I enter c at 47.00 3 year ago. still making loss.
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Having you think of lowering the average cost?I am not sure about C because there other banks are more interesting. My bet is they will recover but it will takes quite long times.
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The pull back to 10ma is here.. so, time for me to cover and go long on SPY as long 138.90 holds.
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Mar 20 2012, 10:27 PM)
The pull back to 10ma is here.. so, time for me to cover and go long on SPY as long 138.90 holds.
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Yup, I'm also buying the dip

Gold look stable now

Time to buy the dip thumbup.gif
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Is it worth to buy APPLE INC now? Since it goes so high!


Added on March 20, 2012, 10:59 pmIs it worth to buy APPLE INC now? Since it goes so high!

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post Mar 20 2012, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(rstusa @ Mar 20 2012, 10:59 PM)
Is it worth to buy APPLE INC now? Since it goes so high!


Added on March 20, 2012, 10:59 pmIs it worth to buy APPLE INC now? Since it goes so high!
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nobody knows.

why AAPL? Because it just shoot by 100 US$?
All depends on your risk appetite and total cash in hand.


Assume u got 10,000 $ in hand, u can get only 16 shares say at 600$
When Apple hit 615$, u earn 15x16 > $230 less charges etc.


Once economy starts booming, banking stocks are better bet.
Get Banking ETF ----> XLF or just plain banking stock like BAC

BAC 10$ x 1000 = 10,000$
Up by 20Cts, you make $0.20x1000 = 200$

BAC can even move back to $15, hence $5x1000 > $5000


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QUOTE(learn2earn8 @ Mar 19 2012, 04:49 AM)
JESSE LIVERMORE SAYS BUY HIGH, SELL HIGHER  cool2.gif
but dog jones at this level still no minor pullback yet laugh.gif
earnings season is next month & expect not much movement until earnings begin  yawn.gif
expecting superb earnings, otherwise, longkang lo for my gambling time with call options sweat.gif
a little poor on the options volume, means hard to trade.


This post has been edited by zamans98: Mar 20 2012, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Mar 21 2012, 12:10 AM)
nobody knows.

why AAPL? Because it just shoot by 100 US$?
All depends on your risk appetite and total cash in hand.
Assume u got 10,000 $ in hand, u can get only 16 shares say at 600$
When Apple hit 615$, u earn 15x16 > $230 less charges etc.
Once economy starts booming, banking stocks are better bet.
Get Banking ETF ----> XLF or just plain banking stock like BAC

BAC 10$ x 1000 = 10,000$
Up by 20Cts, you make $0.20x1000 = 200$

BAC can even move back to $15, hence $5x1000 > $5000


Added on March 20, 2012, 11:12 pm

a little poor on the options volume, means hard to trade.
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Thanks for the suggestion! Besides BAC, any other stock consider lower price which can enter?
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post Mar 21 2012, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Kimmy1 @ Mar 21 2012, 09:51 AM)
Wed: 21-03-2012 (Neutral) G@P +2.92 ▼ / PiT +77% ▲ News

Seems that Market is not holding longer, corrections?! What do you see?

http://testmarketidea.blogspot.com
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damn normal. its not a correction if just down by ~50 points.
CORRECTION is a major 3 digits plunge, continuously or in the similar pattern.


Added on March 21, 2012, 10:19 pm
QUOTE(rstusa @ Mar 21 2012, 08:23 AM)
Thanks for the suggestion! Besides BAC, any other stock consider lower price which can enter?
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Micron, ie MU. Low debt. Check the financial.
Good volume, big intra-day movement.


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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Mar 21 2012, 11:18 PM)
damn normal. its not a correction if just down by ~50 points.
CORRECTION is a major 3 digits plunge, continuously or in the similar pattern.


Added on March 21, 2012, 10:19 pm

Micron, ie MU. Low debt. Check the financial.
Good volume, big intra-day movement.
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Is it blue chip company suitable for long term investment?
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post Mar 21 2012, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(rstusa @ Mar 21 2012, 10:57 PM)
Is it blue chip company suitable for long term investment?
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Blue CHIP? YES, but not Dow Jones Top 30 component.

% of Shares Held by All Insider and 5% Owners: 11%
% of Shares Held by Institutional & Mutual Fund Owners: 70%
% of Float Held by Institutional & Mutual Fund Owners: 79%

Data are here: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=MU&ql=1


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China's contracting PMI data really scared a lot of bulls today.. even DAX and DOW futures got big scare but US job claims data is indicating because US economic activities are getting better. Oil price testing 104-105 support level.

Imo, buying opportunity here but with stop loss level below SPY 139

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I enter china select public fund 5 year ago. now 50% loss.
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what do we buy? any recommendation to be post here is helpful & and how deep is the incoming downturn hmm.gif

QUOTE(Kimmy1 @ Mar 22 2012, 07:54 AM)
Thu: 22-03-2012 (BuLLish lvl1) G@P +0.18 ▲ / PiT +77% ▼ News1, News2

Market is entering to bunch of bad news. We should adapt Hold or Wait for incoming downturn. If you really wanna buy at this time, please do make it a very small portions only. Keep more money to buy in a right time.

http://testmarketidea.blogspot.com
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Mar 22 2012, 10:44 PM)
I enter china select public fund 5 year ago. now 50% loss.
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Talking about PSCF, I enter about the same time with you. Almost same amount of loss.

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