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post Oct 11 2011, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Oct 11 2011, 10:59 PM)
Sorry, 16105 you mean? I will rather get the f58, of course. But if I have a budget, then f43 would be perfect.
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isn't f43 cheaper than f58?
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post Oct 11 2011, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(alphazal @ Oct 11 2011, 10:39 PM)
Hi Guys,
I new here. Just "divorce" my CANIKON and happily married to sony a580 and i would say it is much better than my old nikon d40 and canon 50d. i'm planning to get either sony speedlite 43am or 58am but i can't find enough info about this two "cobra" family.

some info that i got says that 58am always having overheating issue.it is true? other than different GN are there any other major different?

My current gear now is a580+battery grip+ sony 18-55mm+sony 24-105mm ( sony 50mm f1.8 - waiting for delivery ) samyang 85mm f1.4 ( next purchase)

I'm more into Wedding and Product Photography.

Hope can get some advice from u guys.

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Samyang lens are awesome bro smile.gif Sharpness is similar to Zeiss, just missing AF.

F58 overheating? I did flash my F58 continuously and I think overheating is not really an issue for me.
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post Oct 11 2011, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Oct 11 2011, 07:54 PM)
if we talking canon or nikon rumor, i believe is not true. but some how sony and m43 rumor are very reliable and this round it is SAR4  brows.gif multiple source  sayd a77 is not the toppest model in apsc, very interesting.

since the sony centre SA no call back me to explain the more detail, then i have to wait. quite terrible this area sony centre, althought is rare item sold in shop, but this gal job is  shakehead.gif she is quite look down on me when i ask her about dslr  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Oct 11 2011, 11:04 PM)
isn't f43 cheaper than f58?
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Yup, so I'll rather choose f58, but if got budget problem then f43.
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post Oct 11 2011, 11:38 PM

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alphazal : The F58AM does overheat under some conditions. It happens when you flash continuously using full power, which shouldn't be the case. If you are flashing in full power ALL the time, it means you're doing it wrong.

I've had my F58 overheat once. After that, I've learnt my lesson and have never had the F58 overheat again. Don't be afraid to use higher ISO to help your flash along.
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post Oct 11 2011, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Oct 11 2011, 10:59 PM)
Sorry, 16105 you mean? I will rather get the f58, of course. But if I have a budget, then f43 would be perfect.
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it's sony 24-105mm

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68560493@N08/6232476718/

and i'm selling this lens and go for cz16-80mm.


sales thread

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry45745397


Added on October 11, 2011, 11:50 pm
QUOTE(shootkk @ Oct 11 2011, 11:38 PM)
alphazal : The F58AM does overheat under some conditions. It happens when you flash continuously using full power, which shouldn't be the case. If you are flashing in full power ALL the time, it means you're doing it wrong.

I've had my F58 overheat once. After that, I've learnt my lesson and have never had the F58 overheat again. Don't be afraid to use higher ISO to help your flash along.
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what about " technology". does't 43am advance then 58am?

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post Oct 11 2011, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(alphazal @ Oct 11 2011, 11:48 PM)
it's sony 24-105mm

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68560493@N08/6232476718/

and i'm selling this lens and go for cz16-80mm.
sales thread

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry45745397


Added on October 11, 2011, 11:50 pm
what about " technology". does't 43am advance then  58am?
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How advance you want la bro? Both also flash, what do you expect? Lol.... F58 does its job well, no complains from mu side except for the slightly touchy legs which mine faces =,=

Plus, 1680Z instead of 1650 f2,8? Ahaha.

I find the wideness of 24Z is good enough for my daily use smile.gif
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Oct 11 2011, 11:08 PM)
Samyang lens are awesome bro smile.gif Sharpness is similar to Zeiss, just missing AF.

F58 overheating? I did flash my F58 continuously and I think overheating is not really an issue for me.
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yup...found good reviews about this lens. lucky i haven't bought the zeiss..can save banyak woo... rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(chiahau @ Oct 11 2011, 11:52 PM)
How advance you want la bro? Both also flash, what do you expect? Lol.... F58 does its job well, no complains from mu side except for the slightly touchy legs which mine faces =,=

Plus, 1680Z instead of 1650 f2,8? Ahaha.

I find the wideness of 24Z is good enough for my daily use smile.gif
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something like master and slave. if i'm not mistaken f43am is slave only right? and 58am can be both.

don't know la ..but my interest now are more to cz maybe due to the IQ... 16-50 ok la.. but i think can cover that with tammy.


can't wait to get samyang 85mm..


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QUOTE(shootkk @ Oct 11 2011, 11:38 PM)
alphazal : The F58AM does overheat under some conditions. It happens when you flash continuously using full power, which shouldn't be the case. If you are flashing in full power ALL the time, it means you're doing it wrong.

I've had my F58 overheat once. After that, I've learnt my lesson and have never had the F58 overheat again. Don't be afraid to use higher ISO to help your flash along.
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thanks for the advice shootkk... icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Oct 12 2011, 12:22 AM

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alphazal : The master/slave thingy depends on the body you're using. If you are using A900/A850/A77/A700 then both F43 and F58 can be commanders or slaves but for other alpha bodies you need to use the pop-up flash as the commander.

Talk about technology well, the F43 can give you better control as you can select power up to 1/64 but then again it has lower flash output compared to the F58. The most frustrating thing is that you don't have enough power on your flash to give you the results you need. That is the reason why most experienced user will advise you to get the top of the range flash if budget is not a concern.

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QUOTE(alphazal @ Oct 11 2011, 11:52 PM)
yup...found good reviews about this lens. lucky i haven't bought the zeiss..can save banyak woo... rclxms.gif


Added on October 11, 2011, 11:59 pm
something like master and slave. if i'm not mistaken f43am is slave only right? and 58am can be both.

don't know la ..but my interest now are more to cz maybe due to the IQ... 16-50 ok la.. but i think can cover that with tammy.
can't wait to get samyang 85mm..
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Added on October 12, 2011, 12:05 am
thanks for the advice shootkk...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Wait till you see Gary Friedman show you a picture of 1650 at f2,8.. Sharpness wise, Tamron really out the door when compared smile.gif

QUOTE(shootkk @ Oct 12 2011, 12:22 AM)
alphazal : The master/slave thingy depends on the body you're using. If you are using A900/A850/A77/A700 then both F43 and F58 can be commanders or slaves but for other alpha bodies you need to use the pop-up flash as the commander.
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Lol, that is a feature which one can die for. But took us awhile before we can operate that feature, eh Uncle shoot? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Oct 12 2011, 12:22 AM)
alphazal : The master/slave thingy depends on the body you're using. If you are using A900/A850/A77/A700 then both F43 and F58 can be commanders or slaves but for other alpha bodies you need to use the pop-up flash as the commander.

Talk about technology well, the F43 can give you better control as you can select power up to 1/64 but then again it has lower flash output compared to the F58. The most frustrating thing is that you don't have enough power on your flash to give you the results you need. That is the reason why most experienced user will advise you to get the top of the range flash if budget is not a concern.
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thank you ..this is what i want to know.. buying this flash next week and play around with it thumbup.gif

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alphazal:

IF Manual Controls, yes, 43 has more option.

if technology/spec in Auto mode, both more or less the same.

get F58 for better cycle time.

overheating is when you set your aperture to F8 (higher) and burst non stop. or iso200 and burst non stop, which you are doing it all wrong. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 12 2011, 01:00 AM)
alphazal:

IF Manual Controls, yes, 43 has more option.

if technology/spec in Auto mode, both more or less the same.

get F58 for better cycle time.

overheating is when you set your aperture to F8 (higher) and burst non stop. or iso200 and burst non stop, which you are doing it all wrong. smile.gif
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yup will do... best price f58 i got in png is RM1100 at perangin mall... f43 RM7++.00


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alphazal: The F43 can be master also, but your A580 doesn't allow master-slave wireless flash. You'll have to use the pop-up flash to trigger the F43 or F58 off-camera.

shootkk: The F43 does 1/128 power too. biggrin.gif

ieR: Ah, but people forget that the A900 still has the BEST ISO rating on DxOMark. Any other "supposed" ranking is perceptual, probably because that person is not shooting RAW and not pulling shadows and dynamic range.
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post Oct 12 2011, 01:11 AM

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do you guys use flash to light up underexposed place in long exposure?
guys, do you know any lobang to get cheap cokin gnd filters?
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QUOTE(albnok @ Oct 12 2011, 01:09 AM)
alphazal: The F43 can be master also, but your A580 doesn't allow master-slave wireless flash. You'll have to use the pop-up flash to trigger the F43 or F58 off-camera.
Any recommendation for trigger?
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alphazal: Use the pop-up flash.

Set your flash mode to wireless on the A580. Raise the pop-up flash.

Set your F43/F58 to RMT and it will be triggered when you press the shutter.
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Thank you albnok..

i always want to do this.. but that time i'm still canikon..

here my 1st sepam... if don't mind pls cnc........

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