superbly underpowered after driving a 2.4 camry...

even my sis' myvi feels more powerful...

Estimated 4 hours - 3.50 hour test drive from OUG to Genting 2 flow, 10 min for the mod

Labour Charge: Genting Starbucks Hot Chocolate

This post has been edited by wtm0325: Sep 14 2011, 02:07 PM

like that have to change brake pad dy... coming down from genting either brake rosak or gear rosak again...

updated first on how to adjust pedal height

Here's an updated list of problems plaguing my car:

1 Wind sound in excess of 70kph = Problem recurs

2 Loose number plate on the rear trunk door. Rattles when close = Problem recurs

3 Engine noisy inside cabin when speed in excess of 110kph = No solution provided, sound proofing issue

4 Steering veers to the left, slightly off axis at straight road = Resolved

5 Roof noisy when rains = Resolved but not satisfactory

6 Soft horn sound = No solution provided

7 Power window on driver side not smooth when in operation, jerky motion = Resolved

8 a) Gear shift from 3rd to 4th gear not smooth = Problem recurs
b) Reverse gear sometimes produces sudden strong vibration on car = Resolved

9 Low whining/whistling sound when engine is idle = No solution provided, problem not present upon testing

10 Cabin light not always turned on when car doors are opened = Resolved

11 Rattling sound of loose part near driver seatbelts on B-pillar = Problem recurs. Fixed outside

12 Rattling sound on dashboard = Problem recurs

13 Rattling sound from rear seatbelts when going over uneven roads = Resolved

14 Bluetooth not working = Resolved

15 Long distance/high speed braking not smooth, car jerky. No hard braking = Problem recurs

16 Dirty front rims (possibly caused by low-grade brake pads) = No solution provided, lousy brake pads

17 Noisy tyres = No solution provided, supplier sucks

18 Leaking water from engine compartment and exhaust, when air-cond turned on = Resolved

19 Air-cond takes time to cool cabin, not cold enough = Not solved. Cabin still not as cool as before

20 Soft knocking/tapping sound on engine when accelerating between 1 - 1.5k rpm after driving for some distance. Noise is also present when car is stationary and engine revved at the same rpm range = Problem recurs

21 Air-cond knob can get stuck between "1" and "2" = No solution provided, common problem

22 Rubber frame on left side front door does not fit perfectly = Resolved

23 External door handles too stiff = Resolved

24 Scratches on surface of car on every sides = New problem from Service Center

25 Rattling sound from third row seat, loose board on back of seat = New problem

26 Stationary and speed brake pedal vibrates when front wiper is running = New problem

27 Steering rack vibrates and noise on uneven roads, especially when turning = New problem

28 Front suspension noise when going over speed breakers = New problem

29 Loud burst sound, kinda like farting or sneezing sound when turned on air-cond. Happens when the car strolls for about 2 minutes from a minute-long engine warm up with fan running at level 2 low cooling factor. Can feel the car vibrates with the burst sound = New problem (So far only 1 instance)

This post has been edited by Eithanius: Sep 18 2011, 01:20 AM

1 - same, no time to mod yet
2 - not sure how it loose, can snap some pic?
8 - does changing other brand petrol helps?
12 - dashboard which side?
15 - might be rotor bengkok, u always langgar lubang?
19 - try clean cabin filter, very easy 1
20 - i think is the soundproof no good so u can hear
24 - P2 staff revenge
25 - quite curious how and where it sounds?
26 - no understand?
27 - this 1 is common, no solution

If I am not wrong, the red light usually indicate that the immobiliser part of the alarm is on. Do check if your car has an immobiliser.

For Honda cars, you will get this red light blinking due to the arming of the immobiliser. You do not need to turn on the alarm.

2 - loose rattling sound when closing trunk door
8 - it does not... Alza forum member say it may have something to do with tightening the pedal string... :blur:
12 - dashboard inside
15 - no wor, perodua changed rotor, still the same
19 - how...?
20 - no, that sound should not be there... something is wrong with the engine...
24 - f***ers
25 - i'll take pics
26 - put your leg on the foot brake pedal, then trigger the front wiper...
27 - bising SC again...

BTW, how is the average FC for alza? I'm looking between this and the Myvi 1.5.

My wife Myvi EZI now is going to be 6yrs old soon and FC is about 9-10KM/L or RM50 for 250km. 90% for residential area drive ie to/from school and lots of idle and waiting time. Everyday almost 45m to 1hr waiting. If I drive it to highway, it get pretty decent about 12km/l.

So if the Alza able to hit above 12km/l on normal city drive, at least it should be better than Myvi 1.3 otherwise I will get the Myvi 1.5

Eithanius,
As for all the problem listed for Alza, I say a lot of them you having wrong expectation....You will most of the problem even for 200-300k car...

Then perhaps you can find me a car with that price range that exhibits all of my 28 problems above...

and I don't think a car with that price will have that problem on the very top of the list...

This is about QC issue here, don't compare with expensive cars...

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Added on September 15, 2011, 4:27 pmAs for fuel consumption, I get 12.65km/L average...

This post has been edited by Eithanius: Sep 15 2011, 04:27 PM

BTW, does the Alza come with a DVD/GPS system? Some months ago, I remember they have this little detachable GPS cum reverse camera on the driver side glovebox which I find a bit silly. I rather have something like the Mvyi version..

And

I can find many expensive car that have more than 28 problems you listed... some are a lot more serious than your 28. Some of the issue you highlight is childish....wind noise, roof noise from rain, dirty front wheels, ac not cold enough, tyre noise,....

You have a choice...if you hate it so much, just go to consumer tribunal and ask for a refund and replacement since you seem have so intune on what wrong with your alza...

or top up and get another car...

Childish....?

Hello...!!! these are common problems lar dude.... I'm not the only one complaining... And it's my rights to complain, don't just come here and tell me what I can or cannot do with this thread...

If you don't like what I complain, then buzz off...

No one saying what you can or cant do... having said that, if you think and act like a kid, then expect to be treated as one...

Beside on the same logic, if you don't like to be responded and label as childish ... then....you need to be more mature and grow up...la..

What's the f***ing problem with you...? I voice my problems, you label me as childish... Why are you attacking me...? Have I done anything wrong to offend you...?

If not, then just stay quiet and contribute to the thread, you don't need to attack ppl just like that by labeling others as being childish. Who's being childish here...? It is because of you ppl with the "tidak apa" attitude that's contributing to Perodua's lackadaisical attitude towards their brand and customer service.

There's even more ppl in the Alza forum complaining about various Alza issues. Are you gonna label them childish as well...?

And so what if I'm childish...? You're better off messing with your own wife and kids than to care too much about the people posting here being childish...

This post has been edited by Eithanius: Sep 15 2011, 04:54 PM

Oopss... step on some nerve.... dude... take a chill pill and just look at your Alza problem objectively and perhaps you will understand why you come across as being childish. You may not think you are, but the way you put it across certainly come as one...

Then I seriously suggest you consider other models, better still other brands of cars. Who knows, if you get an Alza, very likely you will encounter my problems, and then you'll start becoming childish like me...? Being a family man like yourself, I'm sure you can afford something better for your wife and children (if you have them). Unlike me a childish kid who cannot afford big cars, I can only afford lousy cars, hence a lousy childish attitude...

Don't say I didn't save your ass from plunging your money for god-knows-what...

This post has been edited by Eithanius: Sep 15 2011, 05:03 PM

I have owned almost all P2 car except for Rusa, Kembara, and Alza for last 15 yrs. Some bought for sister, mom, and wife.. and they have never failed me.

Wife only wanted small car for easy parking and low maint. I love the Myvi too when I go pasar malam or KL downtown where too many fender bender...

For the price, and having own many other car, you have a more realistic view on what is reasonable expectation and what not. I have seen my buddy BMW needed a new engine, GB, and what not... and constant niggling factors... ECU failure, ratting pillar, creaking seats,..... horrible ride for the family and what not...

I have always received great service and repair from P2. They even replaced my front disc on the 4th year... when I ask them to...

Given the history and ownership record, I'm sure no issue but they always lemon anyway. Heck even in Myvi forum there are plenty of whiners too...but why they still buying it... same goes with Alza...

If you wanna compare, yes I have also owned and driven 4 other Perodua car for the last 8 years, starting with the Kembara, and 3 MyVis, two of the pre-FL, and the recent FL version. If you doubt my story, you can check my previous posts. I have no or less problems with those cars. My Alza is the fifth, so as you can see, it is because of my previous purchase history (and like you) that I went for the Alza in CASH.

Boy imagine how wrong I was when the problems came cropping up one by one. It has given me nightmares, worse was the gearbox change that left my car stranded for more than a month. And I'm not alone, read around and you get same problems with other Alza owners. My fifth car with Perodua, I felt like my trust for Perodua has been misplaced.

I've even heard rumors that Alza QC suffered because Perodua rush production just to meet datelines to compete with Exora. If that's the case, then Perodua owes us an explanation for that poor QC on the Alza. I would even wanna bet on the QC for the 2nd-gen Myvis suffers as well. Both me and Perodua tech guys have grown tired of each other over my endless complaints now that they tell to return only when my third service comes, and that comes from those people in Perodua HQ Rawang. Is that the kind of service you expect...?

If you wanna buy Alza, reconsider. If you are adamant about it, welcome to your worse nightmare. People say forget about Perodua fixing your problems, and mod or DIY to perfection. How much are you willing to spend on that...? I've spent 4 grands on sound-proofing alone coz I have sensitive ears, I'm a major in audio...

+1 to the BMW part. Peace of crap. And the particular BMW I've experience is a sports series... but cacat when driving and seriously lots of wear and tear. Every month something breaks down.

mine around RM50 for 300km-350km
350km use more in highway
300km mainly in KL city drive
if special jam (concert/soccer times) case & wait till nuts, i think around 250km