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 ::: ART ATTACK V3 :::, all about handmade ART :D

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SUSAdamiquesce
post May 8 2012, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(inachi @ May 8 2012, 01:17 AM)
take a look at the light, windscreen..all doesnt seem right..but since its ur drawing and we can only see from an image, so u shud know better =)) haha
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well he did provide the reference image. laugh.gif
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post May 8 2012, 06:34 AM

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Perspective IS off. Use a ruler to lightly trace how each point of the car drawing align to each other. The vanishing points are all over the place. rclxub.gif
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post May 8 2012, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(BenSow @ May 7 2012, 11:23 PM)
Never posted here before.. but what harm could it do tongue.gif

Newbie here.. I just grab a pencil, an eraser, a paper, and of course, a reference picture then start drawing..

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so you start taking art course huh? brows.gif

your drawing is there, for a newbie la. tongue.gif (*assuming you didnt take pendidikan seni in secondary school..i never take too haha >< )

http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=...raw+perspective

http://charger426.deviantart.com/art/Car-d...erspective&qo=1

http://omar-dogan.deviantart.com/art/Coupe...erspective&qo=7

here is some quick search of tutorial how to drawing of the car, you can understand how to draw the 3d perspective/ boxes/ those perspective understanding before you straight complete draw out from photo.

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post May 8 2012, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(BenSow @ May 7 2012, 11:23 PM)
Never posted here before.. but what harm could it do tongue.gif

Newbie here.. I just grab a pencil, an eraser, a paper, and of course, a reference picture then start drawing..

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wow not bad xD the alignment is off, and much to improve on the shading, take ur time to finish it would be nicer ;D

See-ing the car make me go and see my 1st car drawing lol. it was ok when drawing the front part, den i get lazy! LOL

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post May 8 2012, 04:34 PM

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sometimes there is no need to strip all character's cloth till naked or pose some obvious lewd pose to make them sexy.
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post May 8 2012, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(acefreakz @ May 8 2012, 03:37 PM)
wow not bad xD the alignment is off, and much to improve on the shading, take ur time to finish it would be nicer ;D

See-ing the car make me go and see my 1st car drawing lol. it was ok when drawing the front part, den i get lazy! LOL

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wow so good for 1st car drawing. rclxms.gif
good job man. thumbup.gif
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sometimes there is no need to strip all character's cloth till naked or pose some obvious lewd pose to make them sexy.
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just give them a pair of big perky boobs. tongue.gif
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post May 8 2012, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 8 2012, 04:34 PM)
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sometimes there is no need to strip all character's cloth till naked or pose some obvious lewd pose to make them sexy.
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wuuuuuuuuuuuuuu sexay~~! thumbup.gif
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post May 8 2012, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(Adamiquesce @ May 8 2012, 02:08 AM)
well he did provide the reference image. laugh.gif
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oh? ok..then confirm the perspective is wrong la..try draw a box as the basic structure and will see the mistake. now every parts of the car have their own perspective.

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ May 8 2012, 06:34 AM)
Perspective IS off. Use a ruler to lightly trace how each point of the car drawing align to each other. The vanishing points are all over the place.  rclxub.gif
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To tell you the truth, I traced the outer lines of the car, lol.. then only I started with the lights, tyres blah...


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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 8 2012, 08:36 AM)
so you start taking art course huh?  brows.gif

your drawing is there, for a newbie la. tongue.gif (*assuming you didnt take pendidikan seni in secondary school..i never take too haha >< )

http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=...raw+perspective

http://charger426.deviantart.com/art/Car-d...erspective&qo=1

http://omar-dogan.deviantart.com/art/Coupe...erspective&qo=7

here is some quick search of tutorial how to drawing of the car, you can understand how to draw the 3d perspective/ boxes/ those perspective understanding before you straight complete draw out from photo.

wink.gif
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Yeah newbie, I don't draw alot... Yeap never take, but my friends all said nais lol. Because they likey the car tongue.gif
Yea I didn't take PS, some ask me to take lol...

Thanks on the tutorial..

QUOTE(acefreakz @ May 8 2012, 03:37 PM)
wow not bad xD the alignment is off, and much to improve on the shading, take ur time to finish it would be nicer ;D

See-ing the car make me go and see my 1st car drawing lol. it was ok when drawing the front part, den i get lazy! LOL

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Dammnnnnnn.. So geng ohmy.gif

QUOTE(inachi @ May 8 2012, 07:11 PM)
oh? ok..then confirm the perspective is wrong la..try draw a box as the basic structure and will see the mistake. now every parts of the car have their own perspective.
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That's the problem, I still can't manage on my own, have to follow a reference image, and if I do sure got some part wrong one ><

Hmm.. for shading, do you guys use stuff like tissue, finger etc?


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post May 8 2012, 09:47 PM

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@ Ben

Not the outline, dear, but how each point/edge of the shapes of the car, windows, wheels and lights relate to the other points/edges.

Basically your artistic eye has not been trained to judge distances by "eyeballing" yet, so the proportions are all thrown off. If the main shapes are not right, no amount of shading is going to help make a picture look "right".

Example:

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This is an outline of the car, broken into basic shapes. The green line is the centreline, where I started my base for building the other shapes. You can see even without the shading (which builds the form, or three-dimensionality of the car), the shape of the car is recognizable, because I tried to stay as true as possible to how each shape relates to each other in terms of size, and how each point of the shapes relate in terms of distance.

As a comparison, this is the outline overlaid on your drawing:

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Not sure if you have the paper tilted at an angle when you took the pic, which would make your drawing inaccurate, but you can already see how the shapes are "off".

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post May 8 2012, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ May 8 2012, 09:47 PM)
@ Ben

Not the outline, dear, but how each point/edge of the shapes of the car, windows, wheels and lights relate to the other points/edges.

Basically your artistic eye has not been trained to judge distances by "eyeballing" yet, so the proportions are all thrown off. If the main shapes are not right, no amount of shading is going to help make a picture look "right".

Example:

user posted image

This is an outline of the car, broken into basic shapes. The green line is the centreline, where I started my base for building the other shapes. You can see even without the shading (which builds the form, or three-dimensionality of the car), the shape of the car is recognizable, because I tried to stay as true as possible to how each shape relates to each other in terms of size, and how each point of the shapes relate in terms of distance.

As a comparison, this is the outline overlaid on your drawing:

user posted image

Not sure if you have the paper tilted at an angle when you took the pic, which would make your drawing inaccurate, but you can already see how the shapes are "off".
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Hmm okay.. Yeah have to agree mine's off, especially the front part, not very satisfied there :/ Just curious, did you draw that out by eyeballing?

How about pencil? Do I need to consider my pencil?

and yeah the paper was tilted.. Here's one from the top
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post May 8 2012, 10:21 PM

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thumbs up for dragon reine =))

btw, the top view one at least looks better but then the perspective is still off..and for a beginner, i feel that drawing vehicle to train ur art sense is a lil bit more difficult..most important, don trace outline or anything. u need to learn how to visualise things in ur brain on a paper.

as for shading, get ur overall drawing CORRECTLY only will help to enhance. =) and like what u asked just now, nope..we don shade like how we do COLORING..too much smudging..shade using strokes..just google hatching,cross hatching all those technique. clean,neat and quick.
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post May 8 2012, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(BenSow @ May 7 2012, 11:52 PM)
ooo thankiuu... Yeah I suck at shading... :/ Now it just feels too empty.. Wanna put some background.. Like reference photo
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but then how can I achieve that motion blur effect? Without it the car just looks static...
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tackle the darkest tone,then move to the higher tone...

just ignore if u find this not useful.

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post May 8 2012, 10:31 PM

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I did eyeball, yes. I'd deleted the sketch layer and left the clean outlines in, but I used a lot of measuring lines/points/dashes to measure out the shapes.

The outline is probably pretty close to accurate, but I had practice smile.gif both in art and in judging distances (I was a competitive tennis player for most of my childhood and teenage years, thinking in 3D and judging distances is part of the athlete thing)

You don't really need to consider how "great" your pencil is, as long as it is of a decent sharpness that you can get good lines, and it doesn't break too often in your hand biggrin.gif

And here's the overlay again:

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Right now you seem to be still in the drawing what you KNOW, and not what you SEE.

I suggest you try and constantly practice blind contour drawing, if you want to learn how to "eyeball" from real life and draw accurately from memory. It's a good way to train hand-eye coordination, and forces your brain to SEE, and not make you draw what you "know" something looks like smile.gif
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post May 8 2012, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ May 8 2012, 10:31 PM)
I did eyeball, yes. I'd deleted the sketch layer and left the clean outlines in, but I used a lot of measuring lines/points/dashes to measure out the shapes.

The outline is probably pretty close to accurate, but I had practice smile.gif both in art and in judging distances (I was a competitive tennis player for most of my childhood and teenage years, thinking in 3D and judging distances is part of the athlete thing)

You don't really need to consider how "great" your pencil is, as long as it is of a decent sharpness that you can get good lines, and it doesn't break too often in your hand biggrin.gif

And here's the overlay again:

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Right now you seem to be still in the drawing what you KNOW, and not what you SEE.

I suggest you try and constantly practice blind contour drawing, if you want to learn how to "eyeball" from real life and draw accurately from memory. It's a good way to train hand-eye coordination, and forces your brain to SEE, and not make you draw what you "know" something looks like smile.gif
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Hmmm.. okay.. Now exam period, after exam I practice more smile.gif
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+1 to reine xD
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This one is blowing my mind shocking.gif

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um...heres mine...drawn from 10 years ago...

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post May 9 2012, 02:39 AM

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good. smile.gif

but seems empty.
u can try to shade. smile.gif

left hand's fingers somewhat not right.
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post May 9 2012, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(kaizer3000 @ May 8 2012, 11:08 PM)
um...heres mine...drawn from 10 years ago...

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where is new one, i bet sure improve a lot since 10 years brows.gif drool.gif

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