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BenSow
post May 7 2012, 11:23 PM

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Never posted here before.. but what harm could it do tongue.gif

Newbie here.. I just grab a pencil, an eraser, a paper, and of course, a reference picture then start drawing..

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post May 7 2012, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(Adamiquesce @ May 7 2012, 11:47 PM)
wow,ok,nice
nothing is wrong.
just a slight mistake on some place.

and shadings can be improved. thumbup.gif
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ooo thankiuu... Yeah I suck at shading... :/ Now it just feels too empty.. Wanna put some background.. Like reference photo
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but then how can I achieve that motion blur effect? Without it the car just looks static...
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post May 8 2012, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(inachi @ May 8 2012, 12:57 AM)
perspective seems wrong for me..issit me or??
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must be the angle I took the photo
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post May 8 2012, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ May 8 2012, 06:34 AM)
Perspective IS off. Use a ruler to lightly trace how each point of the car drawing align to each other. The vanishing points are all over the place.  rclxub.gif
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To tell you the truth, I traced the outer lines of the car, lol.. then only I started with the lights, tyres blah...

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 8 2012, 08:36 AM)
so you start taking art course huh?  brows.gif

your drawing is there, for a newbie la. tongue.gif (*assuming you didnt take pendidikan seni in secondary school..i never take too haha >< )

http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=...raw+perspective

http://charger426.deviantart.com/art/Car-d...erspective&qo=1

http://omar-dogan.deviantart.com/art/Coupe...erspective&qo=7

here is some quick search of tutorial how to drawing of the car, you can understand how to draw the 3d perspective/ boxes/ those perspective understanding before you straight complete draw out from photo.

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Yeah newbie, I don't draw alot... Yeap never take, but my friends all said nais lol. Because they likey the car tongue.gif
Yea I didn't take PS, some ask me to take lol...

Thanks on the tutorial..

QUOTE(acefreakz @ May 8 2012, 03:37 PM)
wow not bad xD the alignment is off, and much to improve on the shading, take ur time to finish it would be nicer ;D

See-ing the car make me go and see my 1st car drawing lol. it was ok when drawing the front part, den i get lazy! LOL

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Dammnnnnnn.. So geng ohmy.gif

QUOTE(inachi @ May 8 2012, 07:11 PM)
oh? ok..then confirm the perspective is wrong la..try draw a box as the basic structure and will see the mistake. now every parts of the car have their own perspective.
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That's the problem, I still can't manage on my own, have to follow a reference image, and if I do sure got some part wrong one ><

Hmm.. for shading, do you guys use stuff like tissue, finger etc?


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post May 8 2012, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ May 8 2012, 09:47 PM)
@ Ben

Not the outline, dear, but how each point/edge of the shapes of the car, windows, wheels and lights relate to the other points/edges.

Basically your artistic eye has not been trained to judge distances by "eyeballing" yet, so the proportions are all thrown off. If the main shapes are not right, no amount of shading is going to help make a picture look "right".

Example:

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This is an outline of the car, broken into basic shapes. The green line is the centreline, where I started my base for building the other shapes. You can see even without the shading (which builds the form, or three-dimensionality of the car), the shape of the car is recognizable, because I tried to stay as true as possible to how each shape relates to each other in terms of size, and how each point of the shapes relate in terms of distance.

As a comparison, this is the outline overlaid on your drawing:

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Not sure if you have the paper tilted at an angle when you took the pic, which would make your drawing inaccurate, but you can already see how the shapes are "off".
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I want a tablet so much. lol.

Hmm okay.. Yeah have to agree mine's off, especially the front part, not very satisfied there :/ Just curious, did you draw that out by eyeballing?

How about pencil? Do I need to consider my pencil?

and yeah the paper was tilted.. Here's one from the top
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post May 8 2012, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ May 8 2012, 10:31 PM)
I did eyeball, yes. I'd deleted the sketch layer and left the clean outlines in, but I used a lot of measuring lines/points/dashes to measure out the shapes.

The outline is probably pretty close to accurate, but I had practice smile.gif both in art and in judging distances (I was a competitive tennis player for most of my childhood and teenage years, thinking in 3D and judging distances is part of the athlete thing)

You don't really need to consider how "great" your pencil is, as long as it is of a decent sharpness that you can get good lines, and it doesn't break too often in your hand biggrin.gif

And here's the overlay again:

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Right now you seem to be still in the drawing what you KNOW, and not what you SEE.

I suggest you try and constantly practice blind contour drawing, if you want to learn how to "eyeball" from real life and draw accurately from memory. It's a good way to train hand-eye coordination, and forces your brain to SEE, and not make you draw what you "know" something looks like smile.gif
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Hmmm.. okay.. Now exam period, after exam I practice more smile.gif
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post May 8 2012, 10:50 PM

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This one is blowing my mind shocking.gif

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post May 9 2012, 09:25 PM

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Hmm when you guys do pencil drawings, do you outline everything first then only start shading or...? And with different colours in a photo, how can I accurately shade each of them? :/
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post May 9 2012, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(inachi @ May 9 2012, 09:29 PM)
well everyone have his/her own style to complete a drawing. process might different. but for me i will get the overall outline done and correct..after that only i start to shade..as for diff colors, again it depends on ur art sense. u must be sensitive enuf to identity the value.
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okay.. oh let me correct my question abit.. When you start shading, do you shade area by area or the whole things you shade then slowly go darker and more detailed?
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QUOTE(Adamiquesce @ May 9 2012, 10:45 PM)
for me,I shade area by area.

whichever u feel comfortable.

what counts is the final result right?
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oh okay..

What about when two points meet? Like when shading the front of the car.. When approaching the green line where the shading will intersect each other...

and also when shading perpendicular to the edge, do you guys shade outside the boundary then clean it off or..?
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post May 9 2012, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Adamiquesce @ May 9 2012, 11:07 PM)
the first question,not sure if I get u there.

the second one,hmmm I usually do it like that,not sure about anybody else though.
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nevermind, dont even know why I asked that. lol. Thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 10 2012, 11:01 AM)
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oooo thanks alot!

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QUOTE(Adamiquesce @ May 10 2012, 09:33 PM)
well at first I thought that the teaching method is not that bad.

but using the traced art as commercial sake,thats bad.

and yeah,that guy's tracing skill is good.
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the company teaches how to trace? Or teach how to trace as practice only?

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post May 13 2012, 12:35 AM

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lols nothing to do started another one :/
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post May 13 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ May 13 2012, 10:22 AM)
Believe it or not, that IS how the hair is like on the 3D model  sweat.gif Client was quite adamant on keeping the hair right. So yeah...
Her philtrum IS one of the defining features of her face, actually, although this will be softened in more paint passes, when I add more highlights to the eyes.

Right now... corrections applied, then DETAILS DETAILS DETAILS.

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Cropped because client wants more focus on the face.
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How long did it take to fix the ears? yawn.gif
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ May 13 2012, 11:16 AM)
Less than a minute. I cut, shifted, painted over the odd seams, and pasted it back.

The joys of digital media biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(inachi @ May 13 2012, 01:08 AM)
the proportion of car lari liao. =)
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QUOTE(vypur85 @ May 13 2012, 01:43 AM)
Agree with inachi.

I suggest using a ruler to draw more guide lines (instead of just the middle line and a few other outlines) so you can scale the car proportions better.

This is always a problem to me as well. Kinda hard to get a good balance between left and right, especially when drawing a frontal angle picture. smile.gif
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Will be a pain indeed to fix the ears... Good luck with it. smile.gif Her hair also looks quite senget imo. It doesn't look 'middle' enough to me. Or maybe it's just me.
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the right headlight was a pain in the ass.. i finished rougly sketching the whole car already.. later upload.. still need some improvements.. next time I'm getting a proper paper.. My A4 rub until almost koyak already lol.

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post May 13 2012, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ May 13 2012, 04:42 PM)
Busy busy busy...

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MINDFK reminds me of a friend o.o

My progress so far, haiz horrible..
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ May 13 2012, 06:14 PM)

@ BenSow

I ALWAYS paint for fun. But I also get paid to do so, sometimes. smile.gif
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post May 16 2012, 12:47 AM

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You people master pencil on paper only move to tablet or straight away graphics tablet?
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post May 16 2012, 09:49 PM

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Anyone here experienced lag with PS before? My PS often lag.. as in when you type text, the indicator will move forward then secodns later only the words start to appear.. So is the brush, it will delay keluar..
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 16 2012, 09:55 PM)
ram not enough? or your canvas size too large? try use 2000x3000 pixel but 72 dpi?

since not really want to print.  tongue.gif
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I'm using 6GB RAM.. Before that I was using only 2GB and it was smooth back then..

I experiment already, even on small canvas same problem..
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