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post Jun 12 2012, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Jun 11 2012, 05:53 PM)
having it a black background does not show anything...but changing to white or grey shows the stain completely clear

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Umm, now that's pretty visible, you can call Dell directly or just email them with the attachment, they should be able to do something about it.

My case is visible only when there's total darkness (yea didn't mention that clearly), you can see little light came out from the part of which it's dark when it's on bright screen.
When there's bright screen, it's the same as yours, though the "stain" looks pretty small.


QUOTE(antoniov @ Jun 12 2012, 01:28 AM)
Hello guys. I have a question. If like 20 - 22 inches monitor. The native resolution is full HD(1920x1080 reso). But some old lcd monitors dont have full HD. The second best after full HD is 1600x900 pixels right? wouldnt it look ugly to use 1600x900 gaming on a 22 inches monitor?
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I'm not what's your definition of "ugly" but if you use the monitor native resolution then you shouldn't see any jagged pixels.
Currently (what I know so far) the smallest screen with full HD (desktop monitor) is 21.5" (22") so 20" is 1600x900.

Apple Macbook Pro just hit next tech (laptop) of which its 15" screen packs 2880x1800, retina display, phew~~ sweat.gif

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post Jun 12 2012, 09:38 AM

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seems like you have backlight bleeding/defect. just call dell and ask about how to send it back for a new replacement/warranty info.
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http://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-IPS234V-led-monitor

This look really good. Cheap + HDMI and quite slim as well
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post Jun 12 2012, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(cybersans @ Jun 12 2012, 09:38 AM)
seems like you have backlight bleeding/defect. just call dell and ask about how to send it back for a new replacement/warranty info.
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yea i think will contact them regarding the warranty stuff...but do they give refurbish set as replacement?

and btw u2410 is kinda old now...is there any news that dell going to release another replacement for this model?
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post Jun 12 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jun 12 2012, 08:43 AM)

I'm not what's your definition of "ugly" but if you use the monitor native resolution then you shouldn't see any jagged pixels.
Currently (what I know so far) the smallest screen with full HD (desktop monitor) is 21.5" (22") so 20" is 1600x900.
Apple Macbook Pro just hit next tech (laptop) of which its 15" screen packs 2880x1800, retina display, phew~~ sweat.gif
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Erm. It's actually like this. I was asking about laptop monitors reso, 1366x768(HD+) would fit a 14 inches monitor nicely. While 1366x768 on a 15.6 inches monitor would look bad(the pixels are a bit too big tho, 1600x900 would look so much nicer on a 15.6 inches laptop monitor). If 1600x900 fit 15.6 inches monitor nice, i think a 20 inches monitor(which doesn't have full HD) would require a higher reso?
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Hey guys, saw Asus VS239N IPS, compare to Dell U2312HM which is better?
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post Jun 12 2012, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Jun 12 2012, 03:15 PM)
yea i think will contact them regarding the warranty stuff...but do they give refurbish set as replacement?

and btw u2410 is kinda old now...is there any news that dell going to release another replacement for this model?
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U2410 still on sales so it's not an old model, just this model lasted quite sometimes, btw don't compare U2410 to the newer U2412HM, they're different league.


Added on June 12, 2012, 5:15 pm
QUOTE(antoniov @ Jun 12 2012, 04:24 PM)
Erm. It's actually like this. I was asking about laptop monitors reso, 1366x768(HD+) would fit a 14 inches monitor nicely. While 1366x768 on a 15.6 inches monitor would look bad(the pixels are a bit too big tho, 1600x900 would look so much nicer on a 15.6 inches laptop monitor). If 1600x900 fit 15.6 inches monitor nice, i think a 20 inches monitor(which doesn't have full HD) would require a higher reso?
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Oh, you mean laptop vs desktop, well 15.6" already has 1080p, Dell XPS, Alienware, and some other brand gaming notebook (sorry if your fan-brand is not on the list tongue.gif ) all has 1080p on their 15.6" or higher display.
Desktop however is slightly slower to adapt to this technology but I can be sure that next year is probably the year that next gen of display will start to coming into the market. hmm.gif Well... Intel already has the road map for the display technology, even the 13" has 1080p... nice~ nod.gif
Even the biggest LCD TV on the market is still 1080p... if you look closely you can see the dot.

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post Jun 12 2012, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Bleach84 @ Jun 12 2012, 04:40 PM)
Hey guys, saw Asus VS239N IPS, compare to Dell U2312HM which is better?
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Im prefer Dell anyday as their services so damn awesome thumbup.gif
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post Jun 12 2012, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jun 11 2012, 11:16 AM)
If your monitor can't automatically detect the resolution perceive and adjust accordingly then you have to use the monitor mode to force the screen to full screen either 16:9 or 4:3, most of the current monitor should have this function if the monitor can't do automatic.
Also you can try to set the resolution to the monitor native resolution before you force the monitor to full screen.
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QUOTE(mohdazuan @ Jun 11 2012, 04:08 PM)
i never use samsung lcd/led so i cannot imagine, but can you access the panel menu and find a menu that can reset the display, or similar tu full screen or 1:1 pixel mapping or something like that?  sweat.gif
seems like your monitor's settings cause that borders since you are saying that you saw that black borders when starting the pc, not after booting into windows. means they are nothing to do with graphic driver.

anyway, are you using vga/d-sub port or hdmi?

edited: i just downloaded your lcd model's manual. according to the manual, it has "optimal resolution setting" and "standard signal mode table". i think your lcd are using 4:3 mode and not 16:9, thats why you saw the borders. try setting to VESA 1920x1080 with 60Hz mode.
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hi! thanks for your suggestions and advice! thumbup.gif
after lotsa surfing tech forums, i think i've found a solution for this problem. hmm.gif

i've accessed the catalyst control center, went to the 'scaling options' of my digital display and adjusted the 'overscan/undeerscan' settings to 0%.
that seems to have solved the problem...although to b honest , i dont really understand why this problem exists... rclxub.gif

PS: funny thing is, my display settings was already at 1920x1080 b4 i even bought this monitor, so how come it has shrunk on an even bigger screen?

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Is there any other alternative for U2711? For similar size and resolution
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so i am using dell u2311, but whenever i play game, and they show the trailer at the front

my screen will always flicker a little bit, doesn't matter wat game, why is that?

is it becuz my refresh rate not good enough?
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For the U2711, is it okay to use only hdmi or display port connection instead of dual dvi link for full performance?
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you need to check your graphic card what is the max resolution output of hdmi it can produce. all graphic card can shoot 2560x1600 (16:10) via DP. since u2711 max resolution is 2560x1440 (16:9)
some graphic card that has hdmi only can display 1920x1200 60Hz
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post Jun 14 2012, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(@lvyzy @ Jun 6 2012, 08:58 PM)
Great info and feedback rclxms.gif
Is the strong backlight or halo effect also noticeable under sufficient room light condition?
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When the lights are on, it's actually there but after a minute or two, your eyes get used to it and you no longer notice it, unless you move your head around (the glow changes with view angle).

I should point out though, that this is an issue with low cost IPS panels of this size. Any 23" monitor you buy for about RM600 that is IPS will have this glow.


Added on June 14, 2012, 12:57 pm
QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jun 13 2012, 04:03 AM)
For the U2711, is it okay to use only hdmi or display port connection instead of dual dvi link for full performance?
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Displayport has enough bandwidth to drive anything you're using dual link dvi for. Not sure about HDMI.

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QUOTE(garcondebanane @ Jun 14 2012, 12:54 PM)

Displayport has enough bandwidth to drive anything you're using dual link dvi for. Not sure about HDMI.
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Oh ic. Because im gonna connect my Macbook pro + PS3 to u2711. Hopefully HDMI would be suffice to handle the WQHD res.

Btw, how's the 'IPS glow' for U2711 in comparison with cheaper IPS panel like U2312hm?
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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Jun 11 2012, 04:10 PM)
a question which been bothering me with my u2410...can this so call burn in problem exist in LCD?
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what bothers me is from the pic above there is 2 black stain on top of my screen...i am sure is not dirty stain as i tried to rub it off...can someone identify this stain for me? is it possible to warranty? i brought this u2410 for 2years plus i think...and i extend the warranty to 5 years...i would like to identify this stain....
QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Jun 11 2012, 05:53 PM)
having it a black background does not show anything...but changing to white or grey shows the stain completely clear
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Its not a "stain", but rather a "bubble" layer in the LCD panel itself. You could call them up and see if this can be sent for warranty. hmm.gif

QUOTE(antoniov @ Jun 12 2012, 01:28 AM)
Hello guys. I have a question. If like 20 - 22 inches monitor. The native resolution is full HD(1920x1080 reso). But some old lcd monitors dont have full HD. The second best after full HD is 1600x900 pixels right? wouldnt it look ugly to use 1600x900 gaming on a 22 inches monitor?
Nopes, next up is actually 1680x1050 for 22" widescreen monitors. Newer 21.5" widescreen monitors have 1920x1080 resolution. You'll find 1600x900 in 20" widescreen monitors. tongue.gif

QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Jun 12 2012, 03:15 PM)
yea i think will contact them regarding the warranty stuff...but do they give refurbish set as replacement?

and btw u2410 is kinda old now...is there any news that dell going to release another replacement for this model?
They may send you a new unit, or a refurbished unit of the same model. Depends on whether they have old stock or not. As for replacement with a different model, then that's up to their warranty department... unsure.gif

QUOTE(antoniov @ Jun 12 2012, 04:24 PM)
Erm. It's actually like this. I was asking about laptop monitors reso, 1366x768(HD+) would fit a 14 inches monitor nicely. While 1366x768 on a 15.6 inches monitor would look bad(the pixels are a bit too big tho, 1600x900 would look so much nicer on a 15.6 inches laptop monitor). If 1600x900 fit 15.6 inches monitor nice, i think a 20 inches monitor(which doesn't have full HD) would require a higher reso?
Are you using VGA connection? Then you may need to set graphic card timings to compensate for the out-of-proportion pixel aspect ratio. Sometimes due to unrecognized HSYNC, the display overflows (left and/or right borders extends beyond the screen area) or screen border shifted left/right beyond the screen area. wink.gif
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jun 14 2012, 10:30 PM)
Oh ic. Because im gonna connect my Macbook pro + PS3 to u2711. Hopefully HDMI would be suffice to handle the WQHD res.

Btw, how's the 'IPS glow' for U2711 in comparison with cheaper IPS panel like U2312hm?
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I don't have a U2711, but it uses a much better panel technology than the e-IPS used in the U2312HM and most other cheap IPS monitors, so there shouldn't be any noticeable glow. You should only see that sort of problem with cheap, small IPS monitors under a thousand ringgit.
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-EDITED-

Manage to fix it with auto adjustment tongue.gif

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post Jun 18 2012, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(881118 @ May 1 2012, 08:42 PM)
the matte screen on Dell monitor sucks to the max
the much cheaper korean brand 27" S-IPS 2560x1440 has glossy screen
it does has 1 year warranty, considering it is just 1/3 of Dell 2711 price

somemore it can overclock to 100hz++
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/26.htm#korean_ips27
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QUOTE(881118 @ May 1 2012, 11:25 PM)
I have u2312hm with matte anti glare, it makes the grainy rainbow sand effect which is really bad
the white is not white at all, its mixture of grainy rainbow colors
not only white, others color also affected with the rainbow effect

when i place both u2312hm ips and korean ips side by side, i can see how sucks the u2312hm is (maybe becoz it is e-ips VS s-ips)
I am not sure how well the u2711 color reproduction is, but i am sure it will definitely spoiled by the stupid matte screen.
Maybe you are true, those professionals prefer matte screen. Then why apple monitor use glossy screen?
my ceiling light is behind, on top of me
i dont feel reflection most of the time, except on black background (which is usually in movies or games only)
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Any 2312HM owner user here. ... sad.gif sad.gif
Is it really Dell brand of 2312hm that poor sad.gif .
What kind of rainbow effect ? i dont understand... sad.gif
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Jun 18 2012, 02:18 AM)
Any 2312HM owner user here. ...  sad.gif  sad.gif
Is it really Dell brand of 2312hm that poor  sad.gif .
What kind of rainbow effect ? i dont understand... sad.gif
Speaking of Korean monitors, I wonder if you noticed the ISP in 881118's siggy. tongue.gif Anyway, here's a good answer to that...
QUOTE(G_KeN @ May 1 2012, 09:59 PM)
Im not sure about you, but those professionals, they'll opt matte screen instead of glossy anytime of the day.
S-IPS = 16million colors, H-IPS = 1billion colors.
Dell comes with standard 3 / 5 years warranty.
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And I don't like glossy screens too. The reflections can be highly distracting. It doesn't have to be overhead lights, any onject in the victinity that reflects or emits light will show up on the glossy surface. If you play games that have dark and/or nocturnal environments (e.g. at night, in a dark cavern, unlit hallways, etc) then the reflections will be more significant (ie. annoying). wink.gif

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