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Just refrain from entering any other FC threads. Stay away. We may mean well but you cannot say for the same for them, as in how they perceive things.
In any case, I would bring up the case with the Adam+Lucas pairing and how things may work out.
Now, we all may be able to agree that Lucas is one of those players that bleeds Liverpool red, inside out and plays his heart, whether the team is playing exceptionally well or in its dire low (touchwood).
There are key points in making the pass-and-move groove to the liverpool football tune and that is that one role of Lucas as a DM as the 'conductor' to the orchestra.
Before I begin I was lead to reading a certain article by a certain GREMIO FC supporter in RAWK forums, which after further reading and assessment of the 'theory', here I produce my thoughts in Lucas's "conductor" role.
When our previous gaffer Rafa Benitez brought Lucas Leiva from Gremio, we all can possibly agree to an established fact that is that Lucas was one of Gremio's and Brazil's most promising talent in the AM category, and the one thing that makes Lucas very outstanding in Gremio was that he had the ideal positioning brain and the 'innate knowledge' of "WHO to pass" (not how to pass) and ability to make full use of his hold-the-ball skills. However, one thing that baffled a whole lot of fans and supporters is that how on earth he ended up being a DM instead of an AM and the 'disastrous' baptism-by-fire in which the earlier seasons he had with us, he had all the stick from fans and supporters. Still, Rafa being a master tactician (given if the players are playing exactly to his ever-tight-grip orchestra-on-the-field) had one idea in mind that perhaps I dare say King Kenny got it right, and something in line with the pass-and-move is the possessive play that was the main 'theme' in the 4-2-4 of the 1970s Brazil.
Irregardless of how things work before for Brazil in 1970s and how things are supposed to work for Liverpool, one thing that I was made to realize was the post that introduced the idea of a "control tower" DM that the current Brazilian team plays with Lucas at the core of the entire team, which tries to emulate the playing style of the 1970s. The main function of that 1 DM is that Lucas will have to play from deep down (as far down as from the defense line) and start 'assisting' with the push with the AMs and the CFs (or CF in our 4-5-1 style) where the DM acts as the 'pusher' and the AMs act as the 'nodes'.
Confusing? Lucas versus Totenham, or was it Bolton, (2010) so to speak, where he gains the ball, presses forward, pushes the ball into one of the AMs, and let them break the defense wall. In the case where AMs can't, they pass the ball back to the "control tower DM", the DM will then hold the ball and push it to another AM to break through, and the entire cycle repeats itself. DM pass to AM, AM breaks or pass back to DM and holds it up and passes it to another AM, and repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat until the wall is broken.
As far as what the Gremio fan states, I also have developed (to my own understanding) of the current Liverpool pass-and-move game that King Kenny wants to achieve is not of the triangulation when it comes to Lucas' role but he will serve as the 'control tower' for every build up to any form of attacking play. Right from the DM.
The only reason as to why and how I see King Kenny plays Lucas almost similarly in that role is definitely not because that Lucas was the only man available (we spent a hell lot for many players come this season, and we have not replaced Lucas despite what others want us to think so) with any other signings of DM (with exception of Spearing where he's locally homegrown from our Academy ranks) that would replace nor to emulate Lucas' role.
If there's a person who knows WHO to lead an attack, Lucas would know, but as much as everyone can probably agree he's not the best passer, but that's the idea of the 'control tower DM', that is to control the flow and tempo of the game by setting up WHO gets the ball to lead the attack and acting as a rear-guard once the ball's passed forward in any case of the ball being pushed back to the DM to initiate new attack moves.
Still, I don't see quite how people may want to 'compare' our Lucas with the likes of Xabi Alonso, Xavi of Barca or other types of 'midfield bosses'.
But one thing that Rafa got it wrong (not by his choice, technically speaking), Roy got it worse (really he did) and King Kenny almost got it right is the selection of the 'deputy' that acts as the 'front man' for our DM to make his move. And I believe that Adam+Lucas, as evidently shown in some of the pre-season friendlies as well as last week's win over Arsenal proves that Adam+Lucas is a pairing that is worth considering as a backbone for an offensive orchestra. (remember, King Kenny builds his team from the striker to the defense, whereas Rafa Benitez does the groove entirely the opposite way)
So what say you?
nice write up. thank goodness lucas remain defiant to stay in lfc under RH (whom ignore & consistantly would drop LLeiva.
rafa didnt get his choise wrong with lucas, when LLeiva was being groomed into a midfielder he is now, we had a better DM then with mascherano.
it is good that we won at bolton, but i won't be carried away with results like this & have the media labelling us at title contenders. its too early. I'll say get back to europe (CL) first. league title, bonus if we can but honestly we dont have a squad with proper depth for a title challenge. it will show when its after mid season/christmas/new year. look at arsenal last season, chasing the title toward the late but imploded when the toil got around when the choise first team players grew heavy.
I rather let both the manchester clubs hog the limelight & their fans drooling in their pants. I'lll be more happy we are ahead of the red devils at the league standings at the end of this season. thats my wish.