good luck on your IELTS btw.
i'm talking based on outsourcing companies as that's my background if smaller companies or local MNC, it's likely it'll b in house but salary wise, it really does depend on your qualification, experience and the role that you are applying for.
if i'm not mistaken, you are currently doing more of on-site support at a local AUS uni right? you'll probably only be qualified for the same role unless if you got the tech certs.

if you want to break into the mgmt area, you need to have prior experience first. again, i think your background so far is mainly on hands technical. if i'm wrong, do correct me. i'm in the IT line & could probably help u out

BHP IT ? I tot they outsourced it? reason for sydney is coz i got fren there so can save on accommodation .
melbourne has a lot of asians too. but maybe next time la.

Yeah,I just breakthrough the workforce 2 years ago and probably still early for me to get into management line. Will try to look for the next step of my career
thx

They can't outsource all IT. IT "roughnecks" are sort of an "elite force" in corporate mining IT. They both manage IT and deploy it when necessary, in the field, in the office, anywhere. Their backgrounds are IT but they double as telemetry and instrumentation engineers when required. Often they're "seconded" or loaned to other mine sites for their skills between the same company with extra pay. Most are at home programming admin scripts via powershell as they are at home under the hot sun wiring up fiber net comms.

Because they work in the field, both as managers and technicians, they usually advance up the ranks twice as fast as any other IT personnel. They're paid double the average city IT joe, on average about 130k a year for an experienced admin with coal board induction and they only answer to the mine site EEM (Electrical Engineering Manager), so in essence, they do what the **** they want (much to my dislike sometimes).

They are also my Number 1 enemy as their stupid IT policies make my work harder and on average take 3 weeks longer than it should. As much as I understand the need for a rekey time for your stupid SSL VPN, what I don't understand is why you have to rekey the stupid thing every 15 minutes which f***s with my meshnet.

Hi,

I wish to seek some advice. I am interested to migrate to Australia but not sure where to start and what to do. I wish to work there too.

I am in my early 40's and has more than 15 years of working experience in the accounting line here in Malaysia. I recently sat for my final paper in ACCA and now waiting for the results. I am unemployed at the moment.

I have a brother who is a PR in Australia and recently found a job as a manager after looking for a job after 3 months. He is in his 30's.

Since he believes that it will be difficult for me to get a job in Australia because i am old, i am unable to seek any advice from him.

Any advise, any one?

All the best. I think there is two route you can go.
1) Try to apply job from Msia.
2) Apply for PR yourself.

And see whichever come first.

At the age of 40 plus the likelihood of you getting enough points to migrate are very slim.

He is right as well, most employers here disregard your Malaysian experience. To them it is worth nothing. If you are above 40 with a family and without Australian experience in the accounting line, it would be hard to get a job.

This post has been edited by empire23: Jul 26 2013, 08:10 PM

What probably you can do is, apply for PR. Then open a newsagency to run it here or a restaurant. Getting a job and working under people is a bit tough now adays.

Thank you Guys.

I appreciate all the advice given. Will need to work on the PR too. Once again, thank you.

I want to ask everybody, since I hear stories of people migrating to Australia, only to end up being cleaners, petrol station attendees, waiters and librarians.

Would taking up SAP certification be a good alternative for migrant? Is SAP consultant in high demand in Australia?

Since malaysian work experience is not considered, it would be good to start career all over again as SAP consultant.

Australia got a lot of school to teach skills, right? So why not take up SAP.

Is this a good idea? Pays well? What you think?

What

To be honest, I never really heard about company looking for SAP in Australia. But in fact, those people who using SAP always like to curse because of the not-so-friendly application.

True true. To be honest, I hate the dominance of SAP. Because of this stupid software, a lot of people got to learn how to use it, and its application is rubbish, it complicates a lot of things. A lot of IT people just don't understand how to apply this rubbish software.

However, since its already out there, you can't beat them, join them.

I don't want to go there to work as a cleaner, if it is so, I mind as well be in Malaysia. So I was thnking of taking up a new vocation. Since they don't consider my msian work experience, I mind as well start my career from base 1. What better way to start than to take up SAP courses. I don't think Master degrees help that much, they are too expensive anyway and too long to take up.

Hold on there mate. They dominate because they are that good. Why do you think big companies believe in their product if it's rubbish? There must be a reason. It's necessary evil scenario. From user point of view, SAP is too complicated (and the GUI looks hideous I must admit thus not helping SAP reputation). But from top management point of view, it's wonderful to have all the information at your fingertips to make the decision. So it's not stupid or rubbish. If a lot of IT people do not understand SAP, then they are not meant to be SAP consultant.

And the demand looks ok for SAP in land down under. I have couple of friends (with years of experiences by the way) migrated with job secured before migrating recently. But they were some coming back after realizing the salary stops pretty much at 150k/annum for SAP. SAP is growing in Asia, so the demand is way better here hence the salary.

Yeah but from my understanding, that kind of salary is only for the experienced SAP programmers. What about for those green novices who just passed their SAP exam?

Well suggest you do SAP in Malaysia first.

1. It's effing expensive with a 2 day course on average costing about 4k AUD.
2. It is only useful if you have experience. Nobody wants a fresh SAP consultant.

http://www.bn.tafe.qld.gov.au/business-ind...p-training.html

Bro...glad to hear from you again...it is really very bad now in oz for the prospects of O & G and mining ?

Awesome if you know people.

Shit if you don't.

OnG/Mining generally hire friends one. If you're really smart (Honours student, co-curriculum banyak, vacation experience and so on) you can get in via their graduate programs, but hiring is very very competitive.

If you got friends, even freshie can get paid as well as someone with 2 years exp.

I don't get it. Why is everybody migrating to Aust?

I hear story of some people taking sub standard jobs. If you have to do that, mind as well stay back in malaysia to work.

even if im majoring in a much leser known field such as geology?

Because everyone keeps hearing stories of how their cousin's wife's uncle's son in law has made it big over here lah.



Yes, unfortunately. I honestly have recommended friends not on the basis of qualifications but rather on the fact they're me mates.

If there is one place where the Aussie culture of "sticking by your mates" is strong, it is in this sector.

I see, bro, then how to build up the network... honestly, i cant be making friends with the CEO of BHp tht easily to get a job... haha, always thought that accounting/finance line in australia is very competitive. What i heard was O n G and mining in Aus is in great demand of manpower, but if they play by cabbles, then i have to work smart, not just blindly aiming for the grades only anymore.