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wongmunkeong
post Sep 12 2011, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(A2Z2U @ Sep 12 2011, 06:24 PM)
I bought rm2000 worth of P. Ittikal about 6 years ago. I didn't keep track all these years. Wonder how much I made (or lost)  hmm.gif
Thinking of selling and put the money into stock market.
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er.. bro, just a logic clarification yar:
a. PIttikal NAV, an equity fund mainly buying local stocks (pls correct if i'm in lalaland ar tongue.gif) down
b. U want to sell AND put into directly into local stocks

Reason:
1. coz stock market also down?
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2. you've got some stock picks going against the grain / current bearish trend?
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3. other reasons?

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post Sep 12 2011, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 12 2011, 07:04 PM)
er.. bro, just a logic clarification yar:
a. PIttikal NAV, an equity fund mainly buying local stocks (pls correct if i'm in lalaland ar tongue.gif) down
b. U want to sell AND put into directly into local stocks

Reason:
1. coz stock market also down?
OR
2. you've got some stock picks going against the grain / current bearish trend?
OR
3. other reasons?
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Actually don't know whether it's a good idea to sell now. It's just a small amount of money. Yea, now red sea in stock market but I see it as an opportunity to invest for long term. I do have some stocks that I want to pick up.

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post Sep 12 2011, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 12 2011, 02:11 PM)
Wah bro - like that incur another round of service charges % leh.
Not too good to cut off the nose to spite the face tongue.gif
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wat else can advice?, our fren dont want his agent C his stament n enjoy the commision hmm.gif
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post Sep 12 2011, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(A2Z2U @ Sep 12 2011, 07:37 PM)
Actually don't know whether it's a good idea to sell now. It's just a small amount of money. Yea, now red sea in stock market but I see it as an opportunity to invest for long term. I do have some stocks that I want to pick up.
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u shuld sell it 2-3 months ago. but its not too late.

mind to share which stocks in ur pickup list?
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post Sep 12 2011, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Sep 12 2011, 07:56 PM)
wat else can advice?, our fren dont want his agent C his stament n enjoy the commision  hmm.gif
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methinks best revenge is to SHOW the current idiot agent how much he/she is losing out by investing properly with another agent (or self as agent) tongue.gif

"Vengeance is best served cold" - hehe, i interpret "cold" to be "cold hard logic" laugh.gif


Added on September 12, 2011, 8:18 pm
QUOTE(A2Z2U @ Sep 12 2011, 07:37 PM)
Actually don't know whether it's a good idea to sell now. It's just a small amount of money. Yea, now red sea in stock market but I see it as an opportunity to invest for long term. I do have some stocks that I want to pick up.
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IMHO the local market's a sea of red with tidal waves now (bearish trend).
U may want to wait for the tide to fall first or risk "being pulled into the deep red sea and drown" tongue.gif

On a flip-side, if U are targeting staples like NESTLE, DLADY or plantation sector - these looks "more" steady than the rest. Of course the "tide" (trend) usually pulls down or raises all "boats" (stocks) though blush.gif

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Sep 12 2011, 08:18 PM
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post Sep 12 2011, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Sep 12 2011, 08:00 PM)
u shuld sell it 2-3 months ago. but its not too late.

mind to  share which stocks in ur pickup list?
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CIMB and Petronas Chemical


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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 12 2011, 08:14 PM)
IMHO the local market's a sea of red with tidal waves now (bearish trend).
U may want to wait for the tide to fall first or risk "being pulled into the deep red sea and drown" tongue.gif
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I'm not good at timing the market. tongue.gif
I use average down strategy.

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post Sep 13 2011, 04:24 AM

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QUOTE(holybo @ Sep 12 2011, 03:48 PM)
Good news to those who holding cash and want to do VCA in these few days~
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dummy question here... may i know what is VCA ?
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post Sep 13 2011, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(caseyhoo @ Sep 13 2011, 04:24 AM)
dummy question here... may i know what is VCA ?
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Value Cost Averaging.
Some more details/books links
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/690951/+1162
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post Sep 13 2011, 09:47 PM

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Hi all,

Just would like to share this info... KWSP earns 0.25% a year on EPF funds that have been withdrawn by contributors and invested 'approved' unit trust funds --- source from The Edge Personal Money September 2011 issue.

Btw, does the charges stated in the statement? Or KWSP bill the unit trust company for the charges... unit trust company charge the investor accordingly... it is part of the service charge?

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post Sep 13 2011, 09:54 PM

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great info there lowyatt2011,
never know that EPF charge 0.25% before.

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post Sep 13 2011, 09:56 PM

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Hi all,

Just would like to understand how to read the 'chart' of PGF (Public Growth Fund):
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/application...formancenw.aspx

For last 3 years performance: Total Returns from 13-Sep-08 To 12-Sep-11=45.32% or 15.11% per year.

For last 5 years performance: Total Returns from 13-Sep-06 To 12-Sep-11=80.01% or 16% per year

For last 10 years performance: Total Returns from 13-Sep-01 To 12-Sep-11=181.73% pr 18.17% per year

For last 26 years performance: Total Returns from 09-Jan-85 To 12-Sep-11=854.37% or 32.86% per year

Am I reading the charts correctly?

Thanks.

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post Sep 13 2011, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(lowyat2011 @ Sep 13 2011, 09:47 PM)
Hi all,

Just would like to share this info... KWSP earns 0.25% a year on EPF funds that have been withdrawn by contributors and invested 'approved' unit trust funds --- source from The Edge Personal Money September 2011 issue.

Btw, does the charges stated in the statement? Or KWSP bill the unit trust company for the charges... unit trust company charge the investor accordingly... it is part of the service charge?

Thanks.
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yea, i'd like to know as well, where is the 0.125% gone ???
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post Sep 14 2011, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(lowyat2011 @ Sep 13 2011, 09:47 PM)
Hi all,

Just would like to share this info... KWSP earns 0.25% a year on EPF funds that have been withdrawn by contributors and invested 'approved' unit trust funds --- source from The Edge Personal Money September 2011 issue.

Btw, does the charges stated in the statement? Or KWSP bill the unit trust company for the charges... unit trust company charge the investor accordingly... it is part of the service charge?

Thanks.
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Dunno about other fund houses but for PM, methinks it's incorporated into the yearly mgt fees, which are calculated and deducted pro-rata daily from the NAV, not the service charges since it's a yearly continuous charge.

Personally, i think EPF is just being a pr*ck UNLESS the 0.25% or the post 2008 0.125% goes back into our EPF a/c1 EXCLUDING EPF's handling costs.


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QUOTE(koinibler @ Sep 13 2011, 09:54 PM)
great info there lowyatt2011,
never know that EPF charge 0.25% before.
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Personally the 0.25% is no issue BUT the "yearly" is the issue tongue.gif
Er.. note that it's 0.125% since 2008, not 0.25%


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QUOTE(lifeless_creature @ Sep 13 2011, 10:27 PM)
yea, i'd like to know as well, where is the 0.125% gone ???
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"Admin" fees OR the infamous person who said "U scratch my back, I scratch your back" tongue.gif
thinking of that.. i feel so.. ew... to be a Malaysian. (oops off topic - sorry mod)

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post Sep 14 2011, 11:00 AM

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What do u guys do with ur EQUITY FUND ?

SWITCH IT to BOND since its dropping like hell.... mad.gif
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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Sep 14 2011, 11:00 AM)
What do u guys do with ur EQUITY FUND ?

SWITCH IT to BOND since its dropping like hell.... mad.gif
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Personally:
Keep on executing and tracking as per planned
1. 50% of $ for equity funds on DCA + VCA no fear / no greed programmatic investments
2. 50% of $ for equity funds awaiting current bearish Trend to get into accumulation trend

What about U? Share share lar - dont just be angry brows.gif
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post Sep 14 2011, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(lowyat2011 @ Sep 13 2011, 09:47 PM)
Hi all,

Just would like to share this info... KWSP earns 0.25% a year on EPF funds that have been withdrawn by contributors and invested 'approved' unit trust funds --- source from The Edge Personal Money September 2011 issue.

Btw, does the charges stated in the statement? Or KWSP bill the unit trust company for the charges... unit trust company charge the investor accordingly... it is part of the service charge?

Thanks.
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u can ge tthe answer from EPF in this month theedge personal money. EPF hv some expenses on EPF scheme such as implement biometric system in UTMC and other expenses related to epf scheme. . so the expenses is from the 0.25%.

if hv more, will payout as dividends to the contributors.
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I have an administrative question for PM-UTC/AM/GAM here:

My DDI is linked to a PB Current a/c and if I do not put enough fund in it, what will happen?

My Upline said nothing will happen and the DDI will continue as normal next month when there is sufficient fund.

The PM branch customer service receptionist told me DDI acts like a cheque and if there is insufficient fund, it is considered as dishonoured cheque and will be penalized.

Same question, two different answers. Can I get a third or fourth opinion?

Xuzen
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 14 2011, 01:11 PM)
I have an administrative question for PM-UTC/AM/GAM here:

My DDI is linked to a PB Current a/c and if I do not put enough fund in it, what will happen?

My Upline said nothing will happen and the DDI will continue as normal next month when there is sufficient fund.

The PM branch customer service receptionist told me DDI acts like a cheque and if there is insufficient fund, it is considered as dishonoured cheque and will be penalized.

Same question, two different answers. Can I get a third or fourth opinion?

Xuzen
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Nothing will happen. No penalty is charged as per my memory.
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post Sep 14 2011, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 14 2011, 01:11 PM)
I have an administrative question for PM-UTC/AM/GAM here:

My DDI is linked to a PB Current a/c and if I do not put enough fund in it, what will happen?

My Upline said nothing will happen and the DDI will continue as normal next month when there is sufficient fund.

The PM branch customer service receptionist told me DDI acts like a cheque and if there is insufficient fund, it is considered as dishonoured cheque and will be penalized.

Same question, two different answers. Can I get a third or fourth opinion?

Xuzen
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I have client(s) who have insufficient funds for their DDI for a few months already. So far no penalty. If there is any penalty for such cases, I'm sure must state clearly before signing people up for DDI. If not PM sure receive lots of complains.

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