QUOTE(kent05 @ Feb 17 2012, 05:06 PM)
regarding switching...how we know when is the best time to switch in or out..which we cant tell at all...
Never time the market.Public Mutual v3, Public/PB series funds
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Feb 17 2012, 08:13 PM
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Guys, what is your opinion about Public China Australia Equity Fund? I wanted to lump sum Rm1k for Public China Select Fund today in Public bank, but the banker told me not to, instead he suggested this fund for me.
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Feb 17 2012, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Feb 17 2012, 08:13 PM) Guys, what is your opinion about Public China Australia Equity Fund? I wanted to lump sum Rm1k for Public China Select Fund today in Public bank, but the banker told me not to, instead he suggested this fund for me. At first I was considering this fund but ended up bought the similar fund from CIMB as PM is charging high on service charge. Sorry PM UT agent. Not trying to kill your business at here. |
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Feb 17 2012, 09:33 PM
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Feb 17 2012, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 17 2012, 09:22 PM) At first I was considering this fund but ended up bought the similar fund from CIMB as PM is charging high on service charge. Actually you're right. The service charge of 5.5% imposed by Public Mutual is really high. And, not that their funds are so good in performance. I would only invest with my EPF Account#1, rather than cash investment.Sorry PM UT agent. Not trying to kill your business at here. Use the cash for better income generation, such as stocks. |
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Feb 17 2012, 10:12 PM
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yup indeed is crazily high. 5.5%. and when invested the 'wrong' period, it really takes some time to recoup the service charge. there are many other Unit trust agents out there, like fundsupermart, at times, promotional 1%.
PCSF? forget bout it, shitty fund, till up to today currently, i'm slowly converting my equities to bonds |
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Feb 17 2012, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Feb 17 2012, 10:12 PM) yup indeed is crazily high. 5.5%. and when invested the 'wrong' period, it really takes some time to recoup the service charge. there are many other Unit trust agents out there, like fundsupermart, at times, promotional 1%. I'm no longer holding PCSF. Has switched to PSMALLCAP with a return of about 4.5% (including switching fee) but still cannot fully cover losses from PCSF.PCSF? forget bout it, shitty fund, till up to today currently, i'm slowly converting my equities to bonds |
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Feb 17 2012, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Feb 17 2012, 10:00 PM) Actually you're right. The service charge of 5.5% imposed by Public Mutual is really high. And, not that their funds are so good in performance. I would only invest with my EPF Account#1, rather than cash investment. Yes, I totally agree with you. If you take a look at the 4th Qtrly Review Y2011, many Pub-Mut funds are below benchmark. Hellooooooooo, what the f#ck! We pay you 5.5% + 1.5% to under-perform the benchmark kah? We sor-chai ar? Use the cash for better income generation, such as stocks. Good-bye Pub-Mut, hello FSM. Xuzen |
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Feb 19 2012, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 18 2012, 10:02 AM) Yes, I totally agree with you. If you take a look at the 4th Qtrly Review Y2011, many Pub-Mut funds are below benchmark. Hellooooooooo, what the f#ck! We pay you 5.5% + 1.5% to under-perform the benchmark kah? We sor-chai ar? yea.. many oversea funds perform much lower than benchmark, the index are so high ady but the fund still not performingGood-bye Pub-Mut, hello FSM. Xuzen |
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Feb 19 2012, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(holybo @ Feb 19 2012, 02:47 PM) yea.. many oversea funds perform much lower than benchmark, the index are so high ady but the fund still not performing Pub-Mut is only a jaguh kampung type fund manager. Only a handful of LOCAL funds perform above benchmark, while ALL their foreign fund perform worse than benchmark. Pub-Mut = 3rd rate Jaguh Kampung fund manager. Xuzen |
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Feb 19 2012, 07:40 PM
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It is because of their holdings. They may have bought it during high time before or nearly the financial crisis outburst.
On top of that, some unitholders may have withdrawn earlier to cut loss and fund has fork out money for repurchase. This post has been edited by David83: Feb 19 2012, 07:41 PM |
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Feb 19 2012, 11:23 PM
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the equity fund's charge is too high....now i havent recover yet....bought on the wrong time
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Feb 19 2012, 11:33 PM
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time and type is very important. we shouldnt blame the fund manager. we have our own choices. i would recommend to stick to local funds, temporarily forget foreign funds. in future, china, india and others emerging market would be safe bet. this year, i dont think so.
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 18 2012, 10:02 AM) Yes, I totally agree with you. If you take a look at the 4th Qtrly Review Y2011, many Pub-Mut funds are below benchmark. Hellooooooooo, what the f#ck! We pay you 5.5% + 1.5% to under-perform the benchmark kah? We sor-chai ar? Wait...wat is the 1.5% for?Good-bye Pub-Mut, hello FSM. Xuzen I thought PM oni charge 5.5% nett...no? then total = 7%? |
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