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post Nov 30 2006, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 27 2006, 02:10 PM)
it is juz win awrds, not 100% mean it is good in future. It is awarded based on the past, not the future. No ofense though.

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May I noe wat is the yearly return for the good fund tat u think?

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post Dec 1 2006, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(hahaha85 @ Nov 30 2006, 11:24 PM)
May I noe wat is the yearly return for the good fund tat u think?

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well, u ask me?
Not sure then, depents....
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post Dec 2 2006, 01:55 PM

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yo guys, i dont think these low payback investment r worth to do since the money value drop so fast in this new century. for sure stock investment can get good payback very soon but its pretty risky. so i wat i prefer is the network marketing investment,its the best investment in nowdays especialy for youngster, a way to learn n help u to achieve ur dreams, wat u need to do is just to work it out for few years(which can treat as part-time job) n get financial freedom then invest the money u earn in assets, such like land n house. there r planty kind of network marketing in this world, n its not diff to find 1 which is suite u
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post Dec 2 2006, 03:06 PM

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lol, somebody come here to promote mlm again.
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post Dec 2 2006, 09:37 PM

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wateva, so may i ask wat is investment for ? to use money to make more money is the main point rite ? n there is plenty kind of investment which is save n having high payback, but all of them need pretty much capital...so for those normal lifestyle citizen...wat can they do ? work for hol life to get tat amount ? lolz...tats stupid n capycatting the past generation's lifestyle....in 80s the best way to get rich is do business such like open shop n make it franchise, in this century do u think tat still work ? so ? wat is the most worthy's things in these days ?
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post Dec 3 2006, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(kennie @ Dec 2 2006, 09:37 PM)
wateva, so may i ask wat is investment for ? to use money to make more money is the main point rite ? n there is plenty kind of investment which is save n having high payback, but all of them need pretty much capital...so for those normal lifestyle citizen...wat can they do ? work for hol life to get tat amount ? lolz...tats stupid n capycatting the past generation's lifestyle....in 80s the best way to get rich is do business such like open shop n make it franchise, in this century do u think tat still work ? so ? wat is the most worthy's things in these days ?
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Kennie.

1) First, a person needs to learn how write in English as opposed to SMS.

2) Amway has been around for a very long long time (hint: it is more than 30 years). Ditto for MLM. So, if you think this is NEW, you are naive and young.

3) In this thread, we are talking about investment. Aka, using money to make money. Go other thread to push your MLM. Or, you will be reported and perhaps ban.

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post Dec 3 2006, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(kennie @ Dec 2 2006, 09:37 PM)
wateva, so may i ask wat is investment for ? to use money to make more money is the main point rite ? n there is plenty kind of investment which is save n having high payback, but all of them need pretty much capital...so for those normal lifestyle citizen...wat can they do ? work for hol life to get tat amount ? lolz...tats stupid n capycatting the past generation's lifestyle....in 80s the best way to get rich is do business such like open shop n make it franchise, in this century do u think tat still work ? so ? wat is the most worthy's things in these days ?
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I personally know a couple who sells nasi lemak on the roadside every morning 7-10 am. They make RM2000 nett per week. How complicated it is to sell nasi lemak ? How much capital you need to start such business?
Not all business requires high start-up capital. The key question is, are you willing to start from the bottom or not ?
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post Dec 3 2006, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Dec 3 2006, 11:01 AM)
I personally know a couple who sells nasi lemak on the roadside every morning 7-10 am. They make RM2000 nett per week. How complicated it is to sell nasi lemak ? How much capital you need to start such business?
Not all business requires high start-up capital. The key question is, are you willing to start from the bottom or not ?
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You might not need a lot of capital but making lots of money selling nasi lemak is not very common. Lots of nasi lemak sellers but only a few make that kind of dough.
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QUOTE(kennie @ Dec 2 2006, 09:37 PM)
wateva, so may i ask wat is investment for ? to use money to make more money is the main point rite ? n there is plenty kind of investment which is save n having high payback, but all of them need pretty much capital...so for those normal lifestyle citizen...wat can they do ? work for hol life to get tat amount ? lolz...tats stupid n capycatting the past generation's lifestyle....in 80s the best way to get rich is do business such like open shop n make it franchise, in this century do u think tat still work ? so ? wat is the most worthy's things in these days ?
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You know what, your words is exactly like my mlm friend. Keep emphasize about how much capital is needed in investment oppose to mlm.

Rule 1.
Mlm is NOT investment. It doesn't belong in this topic.
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It is true that many mlmler earn big bucks. But when mlmler claim that he earn XXK. Normally you need to deduction the cost & expenses incurred such as petrol, Yamcha money, maintaining your volume monthly & etc. From my past experience his nett profit normally is about 1/2 to 1/3 of what he claim unless he earn very huge income.
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post Dec 3 2006, 02:48 PM

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If someone really want to classify the MLM as investment, no problem for me (although personally I don't but rather a modified pyramid scheme, MLMers will flame me on this. Especially those concentrate on charging joining fee rather than product itself that serve no purpose to the social economy) tongue.gif
However, some MLM business model may exceptional that come with good product and offering good business. I don't say MLM is totally evil since sometimes there is no clear boundary between MLM business and conventional business.

But one thing for sure, MLM is not a risk free investment as claimed rather it is a pretty high risk investment if you stay at lower end of the 'pyramid'. Basically it just like top end feed on the bottom end. So it you at the top then definitely you can get rich fast but majority will be stuck at the bottom.
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post Dec 4 2006, 11:58 AM

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For me, MLM is not really investment. It's a business or a job. You need to spend a lot of effort, money and time to be successful in MLM. Investment is a method to maximize the returns of your money and protect the value against inflation.
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post Dec 5 2006, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Dec 3 2006, 12:40 PM)
You know what, your words is exactly like my mlm friend. Keep emphasize about how much capital is needed in investment oppose to mlm.

Rule 1.
Mlm is NOT investment. It doesn't belong in this topic.
Rule 2.
It is true that many mlmler earn big bucks. But when mlmler claim that he earn XXK. Normally you need to deduction the cost & expenses incurred such as petrol, Yamcha money, maintaining your volume monthly & etc. From my past experience his nett profit normally is about 1/2 to 1/3 of what he claim unless he earn very huge income.
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haha according wat u say show tat u not really understand mlm industry, the situation u talk about is true but happen on some mlm companies only. if i'm not mistaken lamp berger is 1 of it.
i'm not really promoting mlm but just wan to tell the way to make good investment, or may be the truth, think nicely b4 report me or ban, wateva.
its truth alot fella fails in this field but its their own problem who dare not to walk out their own lifestyle.
for the post who said tat earn 2k in a week selling nasi lemak, do u think b4 how much they have paid for it ? i'm not just meaning the money cost they paid but also the time n freedom......for sure there r many mlmers spend 24 hours on it too but tat means he or she is very successful in it, n also means they may retire from it soon n may do the real n high payback investment soon.

i agree with u guys tat mlm not consider as 100% investment, but its a vehicle to help u to do the high payback n safe investment.
yes of course the 1 who at the downside of the pyramid is help the upside 1 earning $$$, but the main thing is they themself r earning money too......so ? just like we using microsoft software r helping bill gates earning money too...
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post Dec 5 2006, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Dec 3 2006, 01:37 AM)
Kennie.

1) First, a person needs to learn how write in English as opposed to SMS.

2) Amway has been around for a very long long time (hint: it is more than 30 years).  Ditto for MLM.  So, if you think this is NEW, you are naive and young.

3) In this thread, we are talking about investment.  Aka, using money to make money.  Go other thread to push your MLM. Or, you will be reported and perhaps ban.

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sry for using manglish but i'm a malaysian....so supporting manglish shouldn't be a shame rite ?
n for amway, do u noe how was it is 10 years ago n b4 the government take over ? for tat time i dont think got any successful example with their old plan n past generations' mind set....but now my dear...its 2006...there is totally diff things compare with the past 30 years amway
for 3rd point, bro....if got any mlm which is no need to use any money n cant make money de.....tat is not mlm la.....
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QUOTE(kennie @ Dec 5 2006, 01:16 AM)
sry for using manglish but i'm a malaysian....so supporting manglish shouldn't be a shame rite ?
n for amway, do u noe how was it is 10 years ago n b4 the government take over ? for tat time i dont think got any successful example with their old plan n past generations' mind set....but now my dear...its 2006...there is totally diff things compare with the past 30 years amway
for 3rd point, bro....if got any mlm which is no need to use any money n cant make money de.....tat is not mlm la.....
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Do not insult us by calling what you are writing is Manglish!! If you do not CARE to use a spelling checker or spell a word in full, DO NOT POST here (RWI).

Start your own thread. MLM stuff is NOT welcome here. Especially for someone that cannot even spells.

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post Dec 5 2006, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Dec 5 2006, 02:59 AM)
Do not insult us by calling what you are writing is Manglish!!  If you do not CARE to use a spelling checker or spell a word in full, DO NOT POST here (RWI).

Start your own thread.  MLM stuff is NOT welcome here.  Especially for someone that cannot even spells.

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haha wat a shame, so u mean tat using manglish in an insult ?
y we should use proper uk/us english n proud with it but not our own signature of malaysian language ? u r the 1 who insulting the malaysian's creation.
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QUOTE(kennie @ Dec 5 2006, 01:07 AM)
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its truth alot fella fails in this field but its their own problem who dare not to walk out their own lifestyle.
for the post who said tat earn 2k in a week selling nasi lemak, do u think b4 how much they have paid for it ? i'm not just meaning the money cost they paid but also the time n freedom......for sure there r many mlmers spend 24 hours on it too but tat means he or she is very successful in it, n also means they may retire from it soon n may do the real n high payback investment soon.
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Those nasi lemak sellers wake up at 5 am each morning, start cooking, sell the nasi lemak and finish selling at 10 am. They can go back home a sleep. Many people work 8 am- 8pm every day and make less than Rm2500 a month. How many people work 6 hours a day and make Rm 8k per month ?
And yes .. nasi lemak seller can retire too once the business grow big and they hire people to do all the work. Also how much capital is needed to start nasi lemak business ? Do the math. Just because they dont drive BMW you assume they are poor.

QUOTE(kennie @ Dec 5 2006, 09:10 AM)
haha wat a shame, so u mean tat using manglish in an insult ?
y we should use proper uk/us english n proud with it but not our own signature of malaysian language ? u r the 1 who insulting the malaysian's creation.
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Dude, fix your grammar and spelling. You want us to take you seriously, you better type seriously.
And stop claiming your poor English as Manglish. Call it Kennienglish or something else.
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Seemed like there is a fight on language in this investment thread smile.gif

For me, language is a way for us to communicate and express our thinking and feeling...if your target audience can understand what you're saying, then I think it's fine... Anyway, I don't think this is so called manglish...as not most of the Malaysian use this kind of english.

Sorry, it's off topic smile.gif

Investment should be the method for us to achieve our financial goals...
We can invest in a business...invest in funds...invest in stock or even property...just the risk is different in each investment...once we understand the risk, we can decide which investment mode we should use.


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QUOTE(kennie @ Dec 5 2006, 01:07 AM)
they may retire from it soon n may do the real n high payback investment soon.

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Haven't start or build the career, already think of retirement only sum up those MLMers want to make rich fast but lazy to work.

Genuine successful and rich people won't ever think of retirement even they already have billion of assets. They still work like everyone else. If every rich people also think like this, how can a society progress, already have money then don't need to work anymore.

Sometimes, just can't stand the word from MLMers, financial freedom, time freedom, only MLM is the best, besides MLMers, others are just a bunch of dumb people don't know how to make money.

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post Dec 5 2006, 05:02 PM

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ok fine, this may be my last post here, really wasting my time with these kind people. since you guys can't even accept a new language or whatever kennienglish, this means you guys can't really think wisely, i can tell you guys for sure in future there will be a new official language which create from messenger/sms and now call as manglish/kennienglish-created by someone. its just like an improvement or evolution, such like chinese word are become simple than last time, and today there are so many edition of chinese words. so for you guys can't think wisely, i suggest you guys just keep your money inside bank or put it in insurance is best for your.

and the nasi lemak part, think wisely also please...how they could sell nasi lemak and earn rm2k per week ? its because the nasi lemak is delicious rite ? so do you think how much effort they have put to make such delicious nasi lemak ? and how many people able to make such delicious nasi lemak ? and i'm doesn't mean that business need high start-up capital but safe and high payback investment, some business don't even need any capital to start but what they doing is using time to change money. the main point for invest is to achieve true wealth, its means you are earning money while you doing nothing or may be enjoying ur life. such like buy property n rent it, the property is yours but income still coming everymonth.
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drop the SMS lingo or keep it to a minimum please and not MLM promotion in here.

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