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dreamer101
post Aug 30 2006, 06:42 AM

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http://flagship5.vanguard.com/VGApp/hnw/Fu...&FundIntExt=INT

Vanguard Emerging Market Fund is around USD $10 billion.. Now, it is adding Malaysia and Russia into the fund... It will be interesting to watch whether this has any good impact to Malaysia stock market..


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post Aug 30 2006, 12:37 PM

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Normally we save an amount of money for emergency purpose before we do investment. How much is the ideal amount for this emergency fund?
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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Aug 30 2006, 12:37 PM)
Normally we save an amount of money for emergency purpose before we do investment. How much is the ideal amount for this emergency fund?
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Some say 6 months. Others say 12 months of your income.

I'll take whatever figure just as a guide. More importantly, is to establish the amount that you feel comfortable with. I only put into investment what i'll be prepared to lose in the worst case scenario.
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post Aug 30 2006, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(??!! @ Aug 30 2006, 01:02 PM)
Some say 6 months. Others say 12 months of your income.

I'll take whatever figure just as a guide. More importantly, is to establish the amount that you feel comfortable with. I only put into investment what i'll be prepared to lose in the worst case scenario.
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i read in some book they says that if u employee=3month, businessman=6 month
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post Aug 30 2006, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 28 2006, 09:19 PM)

Even a simple thing like stock market, you can lose money.  I lost half of all my savings during Internet bubble.  I was greedy and I did not get out of the market in time.  Just imagine that you are amplifying this 20 times by scale and time.  Literally, you can go bankrupt in a matter of hours.  The same goes for commodity trading.


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So, u lost half of ur savings on forex?
nway, im still verry confused here about making money even the price go down..
they say after u buy some lot, if the price goes up, u sell em..
n if the price go down, u buy a new lot(Sell new) where u can earn profits even the price drop coz u can buy close at the lowest price... is this true mr Dreamer101??
its like 10% chance of loss.. but when i read about forex, about 90% of forex investors lost all their money...
are the agent of the company tryin to hide sumthin from me?
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post Aug 30 2006, 06:11 PM

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Talk is easy and costless, in real trade, mistake might mean losing chunks of saving even for some go broke. Think twice and calculate how much you can risk before venture into this kind of risky speculation/investment particularly forex and futures. I am not saying forex and futures is not good, but bare in mind this kind of investment has bigger risk so return also looks hefty.

When you are actual trading, emotion, fear, greediness and unpredictable market sometimes lead to you make mistake.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 30 2006, 06:11 PM)
Talk is easy and costless, in real trade, mistake might mean losing chunks of saving even for some go broke. Think twice and calculate how much you can risk before venture into this kind of risky speculation/investment particularly forex and futures. I am not saying forex and futures is not good, but bare in mind this kind of investment has bigger risk so return also looks hefty.

When you are actual trading, emotion, fear, greediness and unpredictable market sometimes lead to you make mistake.
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yup, i know wut u mean there..
coz rite now, im investing in the stock market..
n its not as easy as it looks.. tongue.gif
u cant juz buy wut u want, n u cant juz sell wut u have...
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post Aug 30 2006, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(Amal @ Aug 30 2006, 05:56 PM)
So, u lost half of ur savings on forex?
nway, im still verry confused here about making money even the price go down..
they say after u buy some lot, if the price goes up, u sell em..
n if the price go down, u buy a new lot(Sell new) where u can earn profits even the price drop coz u can buy close at the lowest price... is this true mr Dreamer101??
its like 10% chance of loss.. but when i read about forex, about 90% of forex investors lost all their money...
are the agent of the company tryin to hide sumthin from me?
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1) I lost half of my savings in Internet stock trading. If it was Forex, I would have been bankrupt.

2) It is very simple. You predict whether the exchange rate is going up or down. If you predict correct, you make money. If you predict wrong, you lose money. The problem is the movement is usually very small. So, you make very little money on each trade. To make real money, you either have to make a lot of trade (killed by commission) or large trade ( leverage 20 times = huge risk)

3) What people did not tell you is in stock trading, if you do not do margin and stock option, you only lose the money that you invested in. In Forex, because of leverage and you must do levarage to make real money in forex, you can lose up to 20 times the money you put in.

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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Aug 30 2006, 12:37 PM)
Normally we save an amount of money for emergency purpose before we do investment. How much is the ideal amount for this emergency fund?
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QUOTE(??!! @ Aug 30 2006, 01:02 PM)
Some say 6 months. Others say 12 months of your income.

I'll take whatever figure just as a guide. More importantly, is to establish the amount that you feel comfortable with. I only put into investment what i'll be prepared to lose in the worst case scenario.
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QUOTE(PhibeRoptiC @ Aug 30 2006, 05:27 PM)
i read in some book they says that if u employee=3month, businessman=6 month
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The question is if you lose your job, how long will it takes for you to find a new one. The emergency fund is what you need to keep you survive..

So, if you think you need 3 months to find a job, you needs 3 months of emergency fund. Or else, 6 months. And, if you think recession is coming and it is harder to find a new job. You need more emergency fund.

The same logic applies to businessman. What happen if your business is slow or no business, do you have enough cash flow to survive?? 80% to 90% of small business failed in the first 2 years because of cash flow problem.

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post Aug 30 2006, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(Amal @ Aug 30 2006, 05:56 PM)
So, u lost half of ur savings on forex?
nway, im still verry confused here about making money even the price go down..
they say after u buy some lot, if the price goes up, u sell em..
n if the price go down, u buy a new lot(Sell new) where u can earn profits even the price drop coz u can buy close at the lowest price... is this true mr Dreamer101??
its like 10% chance of loss.. but when i read about forex, about 90% of forex investors lost all their money...
are the agent of the company tryin to hide sumthin from me?
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If you are really interested in forex then try paper trading here OANDA. You will learn more with hands on than what anyone can explain here. wink.gif Notice that you do pay commission in forex even though many brokers claim there are no commission. The commission is the difference between the spread, mostly around 3 to 5 pips.

This post has been edited by whtrader: Aug 30 2006, 11:19 PM
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Hi guys,

from the kopitiam thread people are saying the goverment is issuing more ASW2020 tomorrow,the divident yield is 6.8%.

how true is that?anyone going to buy?
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QUOTE(lvvyyy @ Aug 30 2006, 02:22 AM)
Blizz,
USD 5000 is too much
if i have it and im interested, i will open an account in FXCM and let the experts to play it and every month i just sitting there and collect the interest.
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what is this FXCM?

btw i think this is a HYIP case in court

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...2060&sec=courts
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Aug 31 2006, 10:00 AM)
Hi guys,

from the kopitiam thread people are saying the goverment is issuing more ASW2020 tomorrow,the divident yield is 6.8%.

how true is that?anyone going to buy?
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yep its confirm...u can join the queue early on September 1....but the 6.8% dividend yield is this year punya maybe next year only 6.5% who know unsure.gif .....last year they pay us 7.1%
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ASW2020 is a good fund, I think. This fund is issued by government and the dividend yield is quite high. However, I understand that there's quota for bumi and non-bumi. Normally, quota for non-bumi will be full on the 1st day issuing. Not really want to go there early morning and queue there to buy the fund.
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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Aug 31 2006, 05:47 PM)
ASW2020 is a good fund, I think. This fund is issued by government and the dividend yield is quite high. However, I understand that there's quota for bumi and non-bumi. Normally, quota for non-bumi will be full on the 1st day issuing. Not really want to go there early morning and queue there to buy the fund.
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what i am worried is actually the recession that might or might not be coming soon....currenty the trend is once in 10 years.next year is 10 years after 97crisis.

it's all about timing,if you invest now then next year or 2 and the recession coming,that you need to wait longer to gain profit from the lose.

or may be wait till recession had pass and the market refresh for another 10 years?
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post Aug 31 2006, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Aug 31 2006, 09:24 PM)
what i am worried is actually the recession that might or might not be coming soon....currenty the trend is once in 10 years.next year is 10 years after 97crisis.

it's all about timing,if you invest now then next year or 2 and the recession coming,that you need to wait longer to gain profit from the lose.

or may be wait till recession had pass and the market refresh for another 10 years?
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Ah_suknat,

Buy something that will survive the recession and do well..

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post Sep 1 2006, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 31 2006, 09:33 PM)
Ah_suknat,

Buy something that will survive the recession and do well..

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Any examples for this?
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post Sep 1 2006, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 1 2006, 08:46 AM)
Any examples for this?
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Just check which stock survive and do well during 97/98 currency crisis. I think PBB did okay..

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