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dreamer101
post Aug 17 2006, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Aug 17 2006, 11:49 AM)
i understand that. but for most of the ppl even if u save 50%, u still can't buy car/house without loan. and starting the investment only when u cleared the debt would be too late.
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1) Read carefully, we had said time and time again housing loan is the exception.

2) For car loan,

A) You are paying the bank effectively 6% to 7% interest every year.

B) The only kind of investment that will earn more than 6% to 7% is highly risky.

So, does it makes sense to pay (A) or do (B). Which one is a better return for your money?? Of course (A), it is risk free. But, the problem with most people is they have no idea how much interest that they are paying to the bank. They tied themselves up in a 9 years loan. After that, it is too late. They may get hit with penalty payment even if they payoff the loan early.

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post Aug 17 2006, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(whtrader @ Aug 17 2006, 01:42 PM)
In my opinion a person should start thinking , evaluating and educating one self about the various investment or trading vehicle available. It better to start early even when you don't have the capital to start. They can try paper trading, and if they are profitable they can sell their services, as a Fund manager perhaps. Not getting involve or thinking, just because you have no money is not a valid reason for learning more about investments and trading. Finally if you can't make a cent in paper trading never trade live, you won't survive.
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what you have said it's true, we can start learning ourself about investment before we had the money, now there's some internet investment education provide investment simulation, or better still doing paper investment without putting money in.

but as human being intend to be tempted very easy,especially when it comes to money. if they success in simulation investment, they will think they are smart enough to invest in the real world. without hesitation, they risk their life boat money(which i mention as bucket money 1) to invest.
as we know,no such thing as risk free investment.people should educate themself how to survive the basic 1st,you dont run when you dont even know how to walk.
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post Aug 17 2006, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(Marvin_86 @ Aug 17 2006, 12:14 PM)
what kind of investment u recommend for begineer?
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FD

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post Aug 17 2006, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Aug 17 2006, 08:32 PM)
what you have said it's true, we can start learning ourself about investment before we had the money, now there's some internet investment education provide investment simulation, or better still doing paper investment without putting money in.

but as human being intend to be tempted very easy,especially when it comes to money. if they success in simulation investment, they will think they are smart enough to invest in the real world. without hesitation, they risk their life boat money(which i mention as bucket money 1) to invest.
as we know,no such thing as risk free investment.people should educate themself how to survive the basic 1st,you dont run when you dont even know how to walk.
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What are you saying dude? You are contradicting yourself.
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post Aug 17 2006, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Aug 17 2006, 09:42 AM)
that's not practical for malaysian. no one will be doing investment if that is one of the requirement  tongue.gif
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That's true man. laugh.gif The only requirement I know if you want to trade is $$$$$$.
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post Aug 18 2006, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 17 2006, 09:35 PM)
FD

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how much is the minimum for fixed deposit??How many month is more recommend??
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post Aug 18 2006, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(Marvin_86 @ Aug 18 2006, 12:01 AM)
how much is the minimum for fixed deposit??How many month is more recommend??
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1 year FD has the best rate at 3.88%. The minimum is 1K.

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post Aug 18 2006, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(whtrader @ Aug 17 2006, 11:21 PM)
What are you saying dude? You are contradicting yourself.
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which part you dont understand? rclxub.gif

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post Aug 18 2006, 01:47 AM

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hm..there is a lot oppurtunity out there for investment..for me as 20 yrs old student i invest my money in ASB, Koperasi Tentera, Online Investment and now im applying for Lembaga Tabung Angkatan Tentera..i study at military academy biggrin.gif

first and foremost is how u manage your manage..same concept in how u manage your time..
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post Aug 18 2006, 02:32 AM

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FD in HongLeong 12 month = 4%
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post Aug 18 2006, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 18 2006, 12:06 AM)
1 year FD has the best rate at 3.88%.  The minimum is 1K.

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IIRC CIMB/BCHB is giving 4.8% for FD no matter what amount you put in.... but that promotion dunno still got or not icon_rolleyes.gif

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Marvin_86
post Aug 18 2006, 05:26 PM

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what is IIRC CIMB???What is the full name??
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post Aug 18 2006, 05:59 PM

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CIMB you dunno ah? sweat.gif
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post Aug 18 2006, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Aug 18 2006, 05:59 PM)
CIMB you dunno ah? sweat.gif
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don't know boh.Paiseh.I don;t know much about bank or invesment
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post Aug 18 2006, 06:38 PM

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CIMB is Commerce International Merchant Bank. Normally we won't put money in this kind of bank, I think. But really no idea on IIRC and BCHB.

Anyway, putting money in FD is not an investment. If really want to invest, first step is to learn about mutual fund/unit trust.
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Aug 18 2006, 12:49 AM)
which part you dont understand?  rclxub.gif
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My bad laugh.gif . See wrong post.
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post Aug 18 2006, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(Marvin_86 @ Aug 18 2006, 05:26 PM)
what is IIRC CIMB???What is the full name??
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IIRC is a short form "If I Recall Correctly"
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post Aug 18 2006, 10:57 PM

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wow mobif and iris suddenly drop hiong hiong brows.gif
dunno should go in now or not rclxub.gif
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post Aug 19 2006, 12:28 AM

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Think twice before you move for IRIS...their new additional shares will be listed on Monday...
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Company Name : IRIS CORPORATION BERHAD (MESDAQ Market)
Stock Name  : IRIS
Date Announced : 16/08/2006

Subject : IRIS- i. CONVERSION OF 77,770,020 NON-CUMULATIVE IRREDEEMABLE CONVERTIBLE PREFERENCE SHARES ("CONVERSION OF ICPS"); AND
ii. EXERCISE OF 4,790,650 WARRANTS ("EXERCISE OF WARRANTS")



Contents :

Kindly be advised that the abovenamed Company's additional:-

(i) 77,770,020 new ordinary shares of RM0.15 each arising from the Conversion of ICPS; and

(ii) 4,790,650 new ordinary shares of RM0.15 each arising from the Exercise of Warrants

will be granted listing and quotation with effect from 9.00 a.m., Monday, 21 August 2006.


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post Aug 19 2006, 01:35 AM

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what about mobif? should i go in now?
so you think IRIS will keep dropping for the moment?

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