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 ★★★ LYN PROTON WAJA Club - V12 ★★★

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king_coolice
post Oct 31 2011, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Oct 31 2011, 04:49 PM)
SuperCharge is a waste of time.... the parts reliability is not there, installation is difficult and the gain is minimal + not fuel efficiency due to power loss hysteresis. Power loss hysteresis means that it takes more power on even idle and on normal driving. To increase boost you need to play with the pulley and more power loss....

Not really worth to invest at all
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The FC of Waja for city driving is really bad. As from my view, this is because of the power-to-weight ratio of Waja is not good. Waja's is just too heavy for 4G18. To solve it, either go for force induction or engine replacement.
Thus, supercharger came into my mind as the supercharge is giving the boost since low rpm and I dont really need top end speed. I thought the supercharge setup is simpler than BOT.

This post has been edited by king_coolice: Oct 31 2011, 05:16 PM
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post Oct 31 2011, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(king_coolice @ Oct 31 2011, 05:15 PM)
The FC of Waja for city driving is really bad. As from my view, this is because of the power-to-weight ratio of Waja is not good. Waja's is just too heavy for 4G18. To solve it, either go for force induction or engine replacement.
Thus, supercharger came into my mind as the supercharge is giving the boost since low rpm and I dont really need top end speed. I thought the supercharge setup is simpler than BOT.
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FC 4G18 should be ok.... i think u need to check ur car.... normally 500km/tank for town and highway 600km
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post Oct 31 2011, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Oct 31 2011, 05:34 PM)
FC 4G18 should be ok.... i think u need to check ur car.... normally 500km/tank for town and highway 600km
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Yes. I do achieve RM0.2/km. But isn't that too high for a 1600cc car? I was trying to look for around RM0.16/km. Can BOT achieve that?
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post Oct 31 2011, 06:51 PM

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sorry to ask. anyone here using imitation momo steering from tuners and toys?

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mxsteven
post Oct 31 2011, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(king_coolice @ Oct 31 2011, 05:51 PM)
Yes. I do achieve RM0.2/km. But isn't that too high for a 1600cc car? I was trying to look for around RM0.16/km. Can BOT achieve that?
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that is very normal for town use... to reduce it you need to get hybrid cars...
BOT can reduce depends on how u drive... Stock waja actually can achieve 0.16/km if you drive the right way.
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post Oct 31 2011, 09:00 PM

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looks like steven got home quite early tongue.gif

got stuck in jam for 2 hours doh.gif
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post Oct 31 2011, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Oct 31 2011, 08:42 AM)
I did not see what happen inside the car but i know the car was shaking violently...


Added on October 31, 2011, 8:44 am

owh i thought u took the BOV edi? .... the injector still in my pocket hahahaha
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hahahahah.. which bov u give? later i check if its there.. but i remember no bov that day at the piping..
king_coolice
post Oct 31 2011, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Oct 31 2011, 07:45 PM)
that is very normal for town use... to reduce it you need to get hybrid cars...
BOT can reduce depends on how u drive... Stock waja actually can achieve 0.16/km if you drive the right way.
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I'm not really a high rev-er, but still cant achieve 0.16/km with my Waja. Last time my Satria can.
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post Oct 31 2011, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(king_coolice @ Oct 31 2011, 05:51 PM)
Yes. I do achieve RM0.2/km. But isn't that too high for a 1600cc car? I was trying to look for around RM0.16/km. Can BOT achieve that?
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Oct 31 2011, 07:45 PM)
that is very normal for town use... to reduce it you need to get hybrid cars...
BOT can reduce depends on how u drive... Stock waja actually can achieve 0.16/km if you drive the right way.
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is 0.16/km is rm90 full tank can get 540km?? if yes those where my FC with my 1st 17".. now clocking 480km full tank~
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post Oct 31 2011, 10:45 PM

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i full tank can't go up to 500 km .. about 470~480km .. 2002 year waja
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post Oct 31 2011, 10:49 PM

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Mine best i got so far was 522km with 52l, or RM100 of petrol in pure city driving. Now my college started recently, i have to drive highway daily with 50% jam lol. We'll see how does my FC turns up during my next refill laugh.gif

to those who have smartphones, recommended to download some fuel logging app to keep track of your FC. Me using FuelLog for Android smile.gif
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post Nov 1 2011, 01:46 AM

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Mine 3/4 can cover 500km. Nowadays cannot get cause I always rev up high after pass the tollgate.
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post Nov 1 2011, 07:14 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Oct 31 2011, 09:00 PM)
looks like steven got home quite early tongue.gif

got stuck in jam for 2 hours doh.gif
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told ya hahahaha...


Added on November 1, 2011, 7:15 am
QUOTE(mao2 @ Oct 31 2011, 09:47 PM)
hahahahah.. which bov u give? later i check if its there.. but i remember no bov that day at the piping..
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The BOV i pass to u before the piping.... its a Australian BOV

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post Nov 1 2011, 08:11 AM

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my waja is doing an average about 0.20c/km or roughly around 7.x/100km. running on ron97 with
boost kept at low 0.6 bar. 90% town driving by my sister. less high rev.
before engine change, it used to be around 0.16c/km or 8.xkm/100km on ron95. close to 80% town ride by myself.
conclusion ; turbo engine increased the car's power to weight ratio and the rest is fun! just ask steven tongue.gif
only drawback is that at 583nm of torque on my wangan ride(not waja), the idle engine sound is so annoying those passer by will just laugh at it as of a 'farted sound...dang!

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post Nov 1 2011, 08:21 AM

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When i first bought my cps, i could hit up to 600-620km Full tank at roughly RM110.00. But that was 2 years ago.
Now, after minor mod and 17" stupid heavy rims, 300km@RM60.00.
Full tank only 450-480km at roughly RM100.00.

I'm using Eneos engine oil btw. Any reason why the FC decreased that much?! (other than the rims, coz before i put on the rims, i changed only the Muffler and it decreased to 520-550km@RM100.00).


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post Nov 1 2011, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(yngwie @ Nov 1 2011, 08:11 AM)
my waja is doing an average about 0.20c/km or roughly around 7.x/100km. running on ron97 with
boost kept at low 0.6 bar. 90% town driving by my sister. less high rev.
before engine change, it used to be around 0.16c/km or 8.xkm/100km on ron95. close to 80% town ride by myself.
conclusion ; turbo engine increased the car's power to weight ratio and the rest is fun! just ask steven   tongue.gif
only drawback is that at 583nm of torque on my wangan ride(not waja), the idle engine sound is so annoying those passer by will just laugh at it as of a 'farted sound...dang!
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Turbo setup on town use is a real fun hehehe Alif do enjoy so much that almost dun wan to return my car hahahaha.... The fuel efficiency definitely better than NA.... Overheat all sorts of things happen coz wrong setup... wrong tuning... wiring by those under coconut tree wireman and etc lols


Added on November 1, 2011, 8:38 am
QUOTE(jacktmj @ Nov 1 2011, 08:21 AM)
When i first bought my cps, i could hit up to 600-620km Full tank at roughly RM110.00. But that was 2 years ago.
Now, after minor mod and 17" stupid heavy rims, 300km@RM60.00.
Full tank only 450-480km at roughly RM100.00.

I'm using Eneos engine oil btw. Any reason why the FC decreased that much?! (other than the rims, coz before i put on the rims, i changed only the Muffler and it decreased to 520-550km@RM100.00).
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Either u over filled or the oil dosent match the engine which cause internal friction.

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post Nov 1 2011, 08:52 AM

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I always felt that waja is just too heavy. When driving in town, it's like pulling a bull, but when on straight or highway, it cruise like an eagle XD
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post Nov 1 2011, 08:56 AM

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BUMP biggrin.gif ( I know is noob question la....but tolong sikit tongue.gif)

QUOTE(dares @ Oct 31 2011, 12:17 PM)
I've ask Elton this during TT thought I'd put it out here again.

Should I replace my stock air filter with K&N or Simota? I'm looking into this because it's a cheap mod though I'm wondering what's the performance gain.

Does the aftermarket filters also cause more wear and tear to the engine?
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post Nov 1 2011, 10:52 AM

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drop in or open pod?
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post Nov 1 2011, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 1 2011, 10:52 AM)
drop in or open pod?
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Drop in lor.

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